More on the Roy Williams Trade
Despite being the Lions' general manager for only three weeks, Martin Mayhew has already pulled off a better trade than Matt Millen ever did in his seven-plus years in Detroit. Mayhew managed to get a first-, a third-, and a sixth-round pick from the Cowboys in exchange for a seventh-round pick and Roy Williams, who was going to be a free agent after this season anyways. Not only did Mayhew pull in a lot for a player that may have been gone in a few months, but the deal itself came together very quickly.
Going into Tuesday, it looked like Roy Williams was not going to be traded. After all, Mayhew told Williams on Monday that a deal was unlikely, but the rumors persisted anyways. Things changed sometime Tuesday when the Lions received an offer from an unidentified team that got the ball rolling. Mayhew alerted a few other teams of the offer in order to give the Lions some leverage, and the deal came together from there.
My guess is that most of the teams alerted of the offer were in the NFC East. I can't say for sure if it was the Cowboys or someone else that made the first offer, but regardless, Mayhew was very wise in the way he handled things. It appears that he let other teams know of the offer simply to create more interest in Williams. Let's assume the Cowboys did make the first offer for a second just to think about how things may have played out. Mayhew could have gone to a team like the Eagles and let them know that a division rival was about to get a lot better. That could have prompted the Eagles to make an offer of their own, which may have in turn sweetened the pot for the Lions, as it caused Dallas to up the ante.
It was stated on SportsCenter last evening that the third-round pick the Lions got was thrown in at the last minute to make this deal happen. Mayhew probably was telling the Cowboys that if they didn't make a deal, he had a certain team from Philadelphia very interested in trading for the receiver or something like that. It may not have gone down exactly like that, but I'm thinking Mayhew definitely used the interest from other teams, whether it existed or not, to make the deal as good as possible.
Once the deal with Dallas was actually agreed to at "3:20 or 3:30" in the afternoon, there was still one thing that needed to be taken care of before it could be made official. Since Williams was set to be a free agent after the 2008 season, the Cowboys wanted to lock him up to make sure he is in Dallas for a long time. The Lions gave the Cowboys permission to start negotiating a long-term deal, and about 15 minutes before the trade deadline, Williams and Dallas agreed to a five-year contract and an average per year salary.
All parties involved in this trade came out of the deal smiling. Roy Williams now gets to play in his home state and for a good team, which is what he always wanted. The Cowboys got another Pro Bowl receiver and another weapon that makes their offense the most high-powered in the league. Finally, the Lions got three draft picks that will give them a chance to start greatly improving next April.
No matter how you look at this, the Lions made a great deal. Roy Williams leaving does not make much of a difference for the remainder of this season, because even with him the Lions weren't likely going to win very many games. His departure doesn't change that one bit. On top of that, Williams was going to be a free agent after the season anyways, and he would have left if he was given the chance. In all likelihood, the Lions would have franchised him, which would have caused them to spend a lot of money or trade him away. Even if the Lions did end up trading him then, there's no way they would have gotten as much as they did right now.
I have to give Martin Mayhew a pat on the back for making this trade happen. This move alone doesn't mean he should stay on as the GM beyond the 2008 season, but building his resume doesn't hurt his chances. Not only did he make the wise move of trading Williams when he did, but he got the Lions more than I ever thought they could in a deal like this. Obviously the next step is to use those draft picks wisely to make this team better, but we don't have to worry about that until the draft rolls around in April 2009. For now, we can thank Roy for the good things (let's just forget the bad) he did as a Lion and give kudos to Martin Mayhew for pulling off this trade. Everybody involved is better off for it.
(Note: For a full transcipt of Martin Mayhew's press conference yesterday, click here. For audio of the presser, click here.)
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Mayhew worth keeping?
I’d like a fresh start but this article by Jason Whitlock (foxsports) plus the recent trade makes me think twice…
Lions fans won’t like this suggestion, but Martin Mayhew should be given a chance to lead the long-suffering franchise.
Last week I was at the same college football game as the best general manager in professional football, Indy’s Bill Polian. At halftime of the Kansas State-Louisville game, I picked Polian’s brain about young GM prospects. To my great surprise he was extremely high on Mayhew, who was just promoted to assistant GM in Detroit.
Polian is convinced that Mayhew has a deep understanding of personnel and a tremendous work ethic. Mayhew was one of only four guys Polian identified as a future GM.
If you don’t know, Polian built the Buffalo Bills Super Bowl teams, the Carolina Panthers team that advanced to the Super Bowl and, of course, the Indianapolis Colts squad that won it all. He knows what it takes to build a winner.
Mayhew might be worth hanging onto for a year or two.
by cridg1zt on
Oct 15, 2008 10:29 AM EDT
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Hmm...
That is definitely word for thought, but Lions fans want the sexy choice. Floyd Reese has already said he would come to Detroit, and I think it will happen. Mayhew did just make the best trade the Lions have had in years, so he is definitely worh taking a look at. By the way, did anyone see how we just robbed ‘dem Cowboys? Roy Williams is a cry-baby who can make the spectacular catch, but can’t make the easy one. I’m pretty sure Big D already has one of those. Whoever gets the GM job must make good use of this year’s draft. We have 5 picks in the first three rounds. It’s time to build a team (no WRs please!).
by Lionzfan1979 on
Oct 15, 2008 11:58 AM EDT
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I hope it blows up for Dallas
That way our draft position can go up ;-)
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by Sean Yuille on
Oct 15, 2008 12:10 PM EDT
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I'm a Baltimore Orioles fan...
…as well as a Lions fan.
It’s not quite the same thing since we’re talking about draft picks instead of “prospects,” but not really, since NFL draft picks actually play in the NFL right away instead of Delmarva or Lakeland or wherever.
Anyway, this trade reminds me on the surface of a trade the Orioles made this past winter, where we sent Erik Bedard (our ace lefty) to Seattle for Adam Jones, Chris Tillman, Kam Mickolio and Tony Butler, four prospects, two of which were very good-to-great prospects. I can tell you that after one full season, we got this:
1. Adam Jones did an admirable job as the starting center fielder for the O’s, adjusting all season long to what the league did with him, and coming up with fair numbers for a first-time full-timer.
2. Chris Tillman has turned into an excellent prospect.
3. Kam Mickolio wound up playing with the roster expansion in September. Decent chance he contributes to a major league bullpen.
4. Butler got hurt, but still has future.
Erik Bedard pitched 15 times for Seattle, team with the American League’s worst record.
It reminds me of that trade not just because of what’s coming back to the team of which I am a fan, but also because of the “star” traded away. Bedard was a guy with great potential that often struggled and whose character was frequently questioned. He had one really outstanding year.
Similiarly, Roy Williams has always struggled with consistency, has had questionable character issues, and really? Honestly? He’s had one outstanding year. There’s a chance he turns into a great player since football is more a system sport than baseball, and I don’t deny that. But was he going to be a great player in Detroit? They can talk about him being happy to be here until they’re blue in the face, but he wasn’t.
I don’t really have anything against Roy. Some of his gripes were legitimate, and not every athlete is going to be an affable sort. Some guys are red asses, and some are just babies. I do think Roy was more a red ass than a baby. I do worry that, like Bedard, he’ll find out that when there are genuine expectations for him, he might not be so comfortable.
I wish him the best. I wish the Lions good drafting. DEFENSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE!
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Oct 15, 2008 12:24 PM EDT
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We deffinitely need a better scouting team or something.
I mean seriously.. of all the defensive players we HAVE drafted in the past 5 years, how many of them are actually good?
If they do draft defense, I don’t even trust them to do that right.
Isn’t there a third party draft squad we can hire to come in and pick for us that actually knows what is going on. Like that movie where kevin spacey comes in and picks the jury for that one trial and he has that whole War Room and they like threaten peoples families. We need Kevin Spaceys draft team. Let’s threaten the other teams families to get what we want. I’m down.
by MatthewDC on
Oct 15, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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Ernie Sims and umm.... yeah, our scouting sucks
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by Sean Yuille on
Oct 15, 2008 5:19 PM EDT
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Yeah, that just happened
You just pulled out a Kevin Spacey reference on a Lions website. That’s awesome, dude, I couldn’t have imagined that coming.
I’m with Sean though, Ernie Sims and Gerald Alexander were both pretty good picks (considering Alexander was 3rd round, if I remember right). It’s the offensive scouting (Joey Pick-Six, Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Kevin Jones, Brian Calhoun to name a few) that needs some work.
by The Prodigy on
Oct 15, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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wasnt alexander a late 2nd rd pick?
what did they see is alama-francis to take him in the 2nd rd?
when you think .500 is the best a team can do and they are currently playing in the ALCS for a chance to advance to the WS, you have to stop and think that the future of that team is going to be amazing. GO TB RAYS!
by RaysOfHope on
Oct 16, 2008 12:12 AM EDT
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Yeah, Alexander was like the 3rd-to-last pick of the 2nd-round
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by Sean Yuille on
Oct 16, 2008 12:39 AM EDT
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THANK GOD!!!!!
I was just thinking during the Bears game when I saw Roy Williams dropping passes and crying on the sideline that we needed to get rid of him… THANK GOD!!! I hope he and crybaby T.O. make headlines for fighting and cying about not getting enough catches.
by joshkennard on
Oct 15, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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excellent trade deal never thought we could get that. im not saying give him the job now but he deserves a fair shot with the rest
by mikeyw on
Oct 16, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
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