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Time for Roy Williams to Go

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There has been a great deal of discussion about Roy Williams' status with the Lions in 2009 and beyond.  He is in the final year of his contract, and the Lions are going to have to decide what they want to do with him.  The options range from re-signing him to franchising him, letting him simply walk, and trading him.  Right now the latter of those options seems like the smartest move, and honestly, I think it's time for the Lions to do something.

The NFL's trade deadline is October 14, which is less than a week away.  It is expected that the Lions will receive some offers for Roy Williams.  I assume they've already heard offers ever since this past offseason, especially around draft time when many expected a move to be made. 

The Lions have also reportedly been on the other side of things and offered to trade Roy Williams as well.  The reason no deal has ever been close to happening, though, is because the Lions wanted Dallas to give them defensive end DeMarcus Ware, and they wanted a pair of first-round picks from other teams.  Those are awfully high asking prices, so it isn't a surprise that there has been little talk of anything happening.  Factor in the fact that Dallas isn't in the market for a receiver right now and you can understand why even the rumor mill has been fairly quiet.

I think at this point it is becoming pretty obvious that one way or another, Roy Williams will not be a Lion in 2009.  I have my doubts that he will be traded in the coming days before the trade deadline, but I really do think that a move needs to be made.  The bottom line is that his value can only go down at this point, and it is not likely that the Lions would get more out of him at a later time.  Considering that his departure from the team would not affect the way things are going this season anyways, there isn't any big reason to keep him around.

Beyond the fact that his value is dropping with every week that goes by, Roy Williams needs to be traded simply because his antics are becoming increasingly more annoying.  Roy has always spoken his mind, and as a result, he has said some pretty dumb things in the past.  On top of that, he has done some pretty dumb things on the field as well, specifically this past Sunday against the Bears.

Williams has had trouble catching the ball this season and the stats show that.  Against Chicago he had four drops, one of which resulted in an interception being returned for a touchdown.  To make matters worse, he has been called for offensive pass interference three times this season.  Despite all of those mistakes, Roy still decided to celebrate a catch that resulted in a first down, even though the Bears were smoking the Lions.

I have been able to deal with all of those annoyances as they aren't unusual for Roy.  However, his antics in the second half against Chicago when Dan Orlovsky was the quarterback have sent me over the edge.  Orlovsky was having trouble throwing the ball accurately, and every time a pass was thrown off target (when Roy was the target), Williams threw his arms up in the air in disgust and proceeded to complain once he got to the bench.  At one point he even ripped off his gloves and seemed to utter the words "I'm done" to a teammate.

I understand that players get frustrated, especially receivers on a winless team that don't have a good quarterback.  But that is no excuse to act the way Roy did on Sunday.  I wouldn't have as much of a problem with his actions if he was actually playing well.  However, Roy has been terribly inconsistent this season and has done nothing on the field to warrant any right to criticize others.  If Orlovsky's passes were thrown accurately, chances are Roy would have dropped them anyways, so he has no room to complain.

As good of a player Roy Williams has been at times in the past, he simply isn't contributing anything positive to the Lions right now.  He gets penalties called against him and drops passes every game, and quite frankly, those two things alone should be reason enough to get rid of him.  It goes deeper than that, though, once you consider his big mouth and complain, complain, complain attitude.  He does seem like a good guy and has done good things for the Lions, but the only thing he can do for this team now is get them draft picks.  There is probably no way he would get a first-round pick anymore, but something is better than nothing, and right now nothing is what Roy Williams is bringing to the Lions.

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Should the Lions trade Roy Williams before the October 14 deadline?
Yes, might as well get what you can for him now
306 votes
No, wait to make a decision on his future until after the season
52 votes

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I say get what you can

I watched Roy Williams in college and I’ve watched him in the NFL. He has improved very, very little since his freshman season at Texas.

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by SC on Oct 8, 2008 9:29 AM EDT   0 recs

The big problem is with the deadline on the 14th

most teams have his antics last week fresh in their mind. What you needed was for the deadline to be in at the end of Oct, so maybe you could get a few weeks of a little less drama. Right now his value is at an all time low.

On the throwing up of the arms when a football was poorly thrown. Those balls were a bit off the mark, not 10 feet over his head. At least 3 passes hit his hands. He should have caught those regardless of where they were thrown and he knows that.

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by WCG on Oct 8, 2008 9:59 AM EDT   0 recs

Sad day

One of my happiest moments as a Lions fan in recent memory was the 2004 draft when they somehow made off with one of the top 2 WRs and one of the top 2 RBs in the same draft. Getting Roy Williams and Kevin Jones at the time (and for the season after) seemed like a coup for the not-yet-horrible Millen administration. Watching the decline and fall of those two players in such a short period of time after SO much promise is really just plain sad.

by sgdbw90 on Oct 8, 2008 11:41 AM EDT   0 recs

The problem

Not only do other teams have his poor attitude fresh in their minds….but Rod doesn’t want to trade Roy for picks…he’s going to want a player (Ware) that can help him win a game. Roy is a great player but he needs a supporting cast and that’s not happening, at least not this year, in Detroit. We need the picks to build for next year but I doubt Mr. Ford has the stones to force a trade.

by Scotty G on Oct 8, 2008 1:19 PM EDT   0 recs

i hate to say it, but

I’m in the “get what you can” camp now.

by nuftjedi on Oct 8, 2008 4:36 PM EDT   0 recs

got to go

get rid of him he is turning into a cancer on this team (terrel owens?) get rid of him get what you can and start the total roster overhaul and let everyone know they are on notice as of right now that no ones job is safe and it might not be there tomorrow

by mikeyw on Oct 8, 2008 6:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Don't trade him now

I don’t think trading him now, especially for draft picks, would be a good idea. That would basically be saying that they are totally throwing in the towel on the season, and that the last 12 games are a complete waste. I know this season seems like a waste already, but there’s still 12 games left. That’s three quarters of the season, which no matter how bad you are, is still too much to let totally go to waste. Firing a GM is one thing, trading away one of your top players for a mid-level draft pick is a whole nother thing. You deal him at the end of the season, get what you can, and move on.
Plus, i do not think he is as much of a cancer as you think. He is frustrated, as is everyone else, but he’s just showing it outwardly a little more. I don’t get the sense that he’s not trying and bringing down the team, he is just angry from all the losing. If I were stuck on this team for five years, I would be too.

by The Prodigy on Oct 8, 2008 7:43 PM EDT   0 recs

remember when t.o. got fed up in philly

this is the same thing except roy couldnt hold a candle to T.O. if the lions franchise him in the offseason there is no way any one is gonna mach the tag for someone as raw as an onion. he is not even worth top 5 pay for a slot reciever.

by svsuLION on Oct 8, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, the Lions threw the towel in when they blew the GB game

There is no way they can salvage this season at this point.

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by Sean Yuille on Oct 8, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

marinelli should not be far behind him

hell let marinelli pack roy’s bags. these two are terrible in their respective ways. you can tell roy does not want to be here. i cannot believe millen was asking for both of dallas’ first round picks or demarcus ware….a guy millen passed up on for mike williams. what an inept organization…..

by svsuLION on Oct 8, 2008 8:43 PM EDT   0 recs

I'll have a post on Marinelli tomorrow

Sneak peek of it: He should be fired, but he shouldn’t. I’ll explain what I mean in the post.

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by Sean Yuille on Oct 8, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You can all sit here and say that he's a cancer...

But Roy is the best player currently playing for the Detroit Lions. Calvin hasn’t done enough to earn that title as of yet and even though Roy dropped 4 balls on sunday, he’s still the face of this franchise and our only current star, (aside form ernie sims but he doesn’t get the visibility.)

by MatthewDC on Oct 8, 2008 9:20 PM EDT   0 recs

What is being the face of a terrible franchise truly worth? Is anyone coming out to games because Roy Williams is playing?

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by SC on Oct 8, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What I am trying to say is..

When your franchise is at the bottom of the barrel, you can’t really afford to give up the 1 talented player you’ve got for some other teams trash just because you don’t like him right now. He isn’t the problem and it seems like everyone is putting way too much blame on him. If I was him I’d be pissed too.

They have done next to nothing to improve the line to help out the QB and running game and yet keep spouting all of this nonsense about “pounding the rock”, basically cutting out the 2 best players on the team (Roy and Calvin).

Aside from the rookies (Dizon, Avril, Gos, and Smith), rudi johnson, roy, calvin, and sims, I don’t know that there are many other players on this team that I would like to keep.

Either way, Roy is worth way more to us than what we can get for him and what are you blaming him for? Look at how pissed off we all are at how bad the lions suck and then imagine being the one having to go out there and get booed every week when it’s not even really your fault.

Yes he had 4 drops on sunday, but he also had 96 yards, 65 more yards than the next highest player on the team (Kevin smith had 31 rushing).

Calvin is supposed to be the second coming of Jesus and he’s dropped almost as many balls but noone is complaining. Just because Roy is vocal doesn’t mean he should be traded. He’s vocal because he actually cares and is trying to fire people up or sometimes just because he is pissed and needs to let out some steam. We are all the same way.

If Roy had gone to any other team in the draft he would probably be a consistent pro-bowl receiver. He has stuck by Detroit through a lot of BS and deserves more respect from the fans.

by MatthewDC on Oct 8, 2008 11:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A Star?

Ok, granted he may be the Lions only “star” player, but the problem is that nobody else in the league really views him as a star, hence his awful trade value. We can’t even get a first round draft pick for our franchise player. There can’t be another team in the league that can say that. If we’re only going to get a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick before the deadline, then I say let’s keep him around. We need him playing if we’re going to have a mildly respectable season, and there’s a lot that can happen before the end of the season. Maybe a contending team loses their star receiver and blamo, all of a sudden Roy’s trade value sparks. Or perhaps he goes on a tear when it dawns on him that he needs to perform to get what he wants in the future. The worst that could happen is we still get a draft pick in the offseason.

by MoTown Lions on Oct 8, 2008 9:43 PM EDT   0 recs

"mildly respectable"

What, 6-10? 5-11? You think this team has the balls to go 6-6 or 5-7 the rest of the year? This is one of the worst teams Millen’s put on the field yet, and it didn’t start in week one of 2008. It started with the collapse last season. “Mildly respectable” is what our record on paper was last season until you think about how that 7-9 team started 6-2 before turning into a pumpkin. There’s no “mildly respectable” that should be acceptable to Lions fans at this point.

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by SC on Oct 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not my point really.

I’m much more concerned about not giving up our best player for cheeseburgers just because we are having little temper tantrums about Roy’s temper tantrums. The fact that having Roy may squeeze out an extra win or two is just a secondary benefit. “Mildly respectable” isn’t acceptable to me, but as a true fan I still want the Lions to maximize their wins, as few as there may be. I’m not the kind of fan that wants them to go 0-16 so some kind of point can be made to ownership.

by MoTown Lions on Oct 9, 2008 10:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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