Lions Fire Rod Marinelli, Promote Tom Lewand and Martin Mayhew
The Detroit Lions fired head coach Rod Marinelli today and promoted Tom Lewand and Martin Mayhew. Lewand is now the team president and Mayhew is now the general manager. On top of those three moves, the Lions also will not be retaining the following coaches:
Joe Barry (Defensive Coordinator), Mike Barry (Assistant Offensive Line) and Jimmy Lake (Secondary). The contract of Joe Cullen (Defensive Line) will not be renewed.
Mike and Joe Barry are father and son, so it's no surprise that those two are gone, and Jimmy Lake is from Tampa Bay, so again, no surprise. Joe Cullen, who didn't have his contract renewed, is the coach that drove around naked one night and was caught when he went to a Wendy's. A week later, he was arrested for drunk driving. It's astounding he made it this far after those two incidents happened only a week apart before the 2007 season.
Offensive coordinator Jim Colletto hasn't been fired, but he has been reassigned to the offensive line. Why they don't just get rid of him is beyond me. The offense was a joke this past season with him as the coordinator, and the offensive line has always stunk under him. I don't know if a new head coach would have the ability to fire him, but I really, really hope they can and will.
The final change is that Dave Boller, the assistant director of pro personnel, will also not be retained.
I'll obviously have more on all of these moves in the future, but until then I will just say that I am furious with the promotion of Lewand and Mayhew. Both are from the Millen era and need to be relieved of their duties as well. No offense to Mayhew especially, but it's time to get some new faces in the front office. Does anyone honestly believe that he and Lewand will be able to turn Detroit into a contender for the division next season like the Falcons and Dolphins this year? I certainly don't, and unless someone like Scott Pioli or Bill Parcells walks through the door, I have little faith that anything will change that much in the future.
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A Question
Sean, do you think these promotions pretty much close the door on any chance that the Lions can snag Pioli or Parcells, if he becomes available? I know it sounds silly to ask, but what is the mindset with these types of positions? Are they pretty liquid and subject to change or do you feel these are set in stone for the longterm?
by TonyDC on Dec 29, 2008 10:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
I don’t know who in their right mind would want to come work in a committee, no matter where the job is. Considering this is the Lions, good luck finding anyone that wants to do that. Pioli and Parcells would need complete control, and that obviously isn’t going to happen.
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by Sean Yuille on Dec 29, 2008 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
According to Pro Football Talk
The lions are asking to interview David Gray, a cornerback coach for Washington.
"Jerry Gray (born December 16, 1962 in Lubbock, Texas) is a former American Football cornerback who played for the Los Angeles Rams from 1985 to 1991, the Houston Oilers in 1992, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1993.
During his career, he was known for being an especially hard hitter. Gray was selected to the Pro Bowl 4 times attending the game from 1986 through 1989. In his final appearance he earned Pro Bowl MVP honors after recording 7 tackles and a 51-interception return for a touchdown.1 Gray served as the defensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills from 2001 to 2005, where he oversaw one of the top defenses in the NFL until his final season. He currently serves on the coaching staff in Washington as Secondary Coach."
thank you wikipedia
by BtotheLT on Dec 29, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That Would Be A Guy From Mayhew's Personal Circle
I believe he and Mayhew were teammates in Tampa.
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by UCrawford on Dec 29, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great
Here we go again.
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by Sean Yuille on Dec 29, 2008 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just read this and think it is a dumb move...
…but typical of the Lions. An inexperienced head coach is excatly what they don’t need right now. I would be happy with even FAssell, HAslett, Billick, hell I would take Mangini over an inexperienced guy. Give Me MOOCH! That is even acceptable, just not another inexperienced head coach.
by TonyDC on Dec 29, 2008 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
No more position coaches.
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by Sean Yuille on Dec 29, 2008 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To His Credit
Gray’s got time as a defensive coordinator as well, and he had some success with it. Of course, I believe that was with Gregg Williams as a head coach so there’s a possibility of a piggyback factor in that success. But it’s not like hiring a guy who’s never been more than a position coach either.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 29, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ill take an inexperienced one
frazier and spagnulo are going to be good coaches in this league soon (most likey next year)
everything Rays,Marlins,Twins and Reds
who needs k-rod for 37 million when you can have d-rod for 50k?
twins sign ty wigginton ASAP!!!!
by RaysOfHope on Dec 29, 2008 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Death Knell
This may be the end of by support for the Lions. What a joke this franchise is, from top to bottom.
Goodbye Rodney, Hello Tom, Goodbye Fans
~Nick
by Gaweezinack on Dec 29, 2008 10:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
GM
I’m pretty disappointed that we didnt atleast take a shot at Pioli, but I’m not upset with the choice of Mayhew. Even though he was a “yes” man under millen, he has alot of respect from big name front office folks throughout the league, who all think very highly of him. he pulled off a stunner of a trade which gets us atleast 5 of the first 72 picks (the numbers may be a little off and Millen couldnt even get one pick for Roy before the season), and after he was named interim GM, the reports out of some of the detroit papers was that Mayhew was out traveling/scouting and had already done more work than millen ever did. I know the knee jerk reaction is to clean house, as a fan of the team i can understand why, but I’m not upset with the choice of Mayhew. I’d like him to publicly state the direction and ideas he has for moving forward.
I’m not sure what role Lewland plays or will play and colletto staying on board is weird.
by cridg1zt on Dec 29, 2008 10:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think
Colletto’s not a bad O-line coach, just like Marinelli wouldn’t be a bad D-line coach or D-Coordinator, but he was put into a bad position he had no business being in. I think he will do well as the O-line coach, but just out of principle he should have gotten canned, because he had a prominent role on an 0-16 team.
by The Prodigy on Dec 29, 2008 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was already the o-line coach once and sucked
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by Sean Yuille on Dec 29, 2008 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this sucks...
for one, how do you just nitpick the coaching staff. The lions were 0-16, everyone has to go, wheres Stan Kwans name, FIRE EVERYONE. In my opinion, 0-16 just stresses this need, the fact that we haven’t been to the playoffs in ten years is reason enough. And to promote Mayhew and Lewand, c’mon, why not put Mayhew in charge of scouting and keep lewand in charge of the finances and then bring in a gm with experience in success and have them mentor Mayhew (so that he has someone different than Millen teaching him the ropes for awhile) and then promote Mayhew in 4-6 years. But that would make far too much sense and we are doomed and the Browns will get Pioli, the Chiefs will get Cowher, the Rams will clean house, and the Bengals will, well hopefully keep us company on the bottom of the pile for years to come, because we all know it can get lonely down here.
by lions_sucker on Dec 29, 2008 10:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Extraordinary bad move by WCF (as usual)
William Clay Ford, Sr. is a complete idiot. I’m not sure how they are going to get a head coach now. They’d have to throw a shitload of money at someone to come in and be in the same poor situation that brought them to 0-16. Roger Goodell really, really needs to step in and clean house (including Sr.) They should turn ownership over to Jr. and let him run the show.
Hiring a new GM would have show the fans that they were committed to improving and to winning. By retaining the services of Millen lackeys Mayhew and Lewand, Ford just shot himslef in the foot. I guarantee there will be many blackouts next season and a general loss in season ticket sales. I for one will not step foot in Ford Field again until real changes are made. I make it to at least one game a year if not more. That;s now over. I will not purchase any Lions merchandise (already took back my K Smith jersey and exchanged it for a G Soto Cubs jersey) until Ford Sr either pulls his head out of his ass and starts from scratch or turns the team over to his son.
I will still root for them to win. Can’t help it. I will just not help finance this idiocy.
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by Jettero2112 on Dec 29, 2008 11:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yawn
………and the looking for a head coach cycle continues on……………….Just turn the reins over to your son Mr. Ford. You have proved to everyone you don’t know what you’re doing.
by atlantalion on Dec 29, 2008 11:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
so....nobody was impressed with the Roy Williams trade?
I just bought my Mayhew bandwagon sticker.
just a point on the coaches sticking around. i read an article on fox sports and they said its fairly common to have coaches stick around during the offseason, to help with player evaluations and various other jobs, even after the head coach is fired. the new head coach can still come in and clean house and pick his staff. whether it actually plays out that way is another story.
last thing, i feel bad for marinelli, but thank god that idiot joe barry is gone. awful.
by cridg1zt on Dec 29, 2008 11:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Unreal
I just cannot beleive this!!! How can ANYONE have the balls to PROMOTE anyone after an 0-16 season?? What the f*ck is WCF thinking??? That would be like promoting Ford’s CEO as the nations Director of Commerce after running the company into the groud!!! If this idiotic move of promoting Lewand and Mayhew to their current positions leaves a sour taste in Pioli’s, Parcells’, Lunardi’s mouth then I will lose it once and for all and finally, put up 31 team logo’s on my office wall and, blindfolded, throw a dart and wherever it lands that’s who I root for.
BTW – someone mentioned Stan Kwan’s name…………….FIRE HIM!!!! Fire the genius who let Eddie Drummond go for Aveion Cason?? WTF?? WHY? Our special teams used to be the bright spot of this team (Mel Gray, Eddie Murray, Jason Hanson, Drummond) and now its pathetic. Can we bring back Chuck Pfeiffer???
by NYCLionsfan on Dec 29, 2008 11:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree on Kwan
He is an awful special teams coach.
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by Sean Yuille on Dec 29, 2008 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I Think You Guys Are Being A Bit Harsh On Mayhew
I’m a regular over at the Chiefs blog, Arrowhead Pride, but I’ve been watching Mayhew this year (I thought he might be a good GM candidate for the Chiefs if the Lions didn’t keep him) and he’s done some good work with very limited options. There’s very little a GM can do to improve his team midseason but Mayhew made a big move to save you guys for next year. If he hadn’t pulled that trade for Roy Williams (where he absolutely screwed Dallas) your offseason would be looking a lot more bleak as your front office had to decide what to do with a disgruntled underachieving WR who you didn’t want to let walk for no compensation but who didn’t merit a franchise tag. Now you’ve got a couple of nice first day draft picks (which got nicer since Dallas missed the playoffs) to rebuild your squad in this draft. Millen never would have gotten that deal, and I suspect that you’ll find Mayhew will blossom now that he’s the guy making the decisions. Worst case scenario, you’re still upgrading from Millen (who it could be credibly argued was the worst GM in NFL history) because Mayhew’s done a lot of prep work to ready himself for running a football team (unlike Millen).
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 29, 2008 1:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
agree. 100% agree.
mayhew may not be the sexiest pick (i.e Pioli/reese), but i think he’s got us moving in the right driection already. i’m very interested to hear him address the issues tomorrow, like BtotheLT mentioned below.
by cridg1zt on Dec 29, 2008 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Best Of All
He’s already up to speed in running the team and he’ll have the jump on hiring a new coaching staff since the teams that got rid of their GMs are still looking to hire their new GMs.
Detroit’s in a position to improve a lot next season if Mayhew can make a good coaching hire quickly, ahead of the other teams looking. He’s already cleared out a lot of the dead wood.
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 29, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
definately agree..
I think that what Mayhew was able to do with Roy Williams shows what he is capable of in the future. Believe it or not, but he did learn at least one thing from Matt Millen and that is what not to do as GM. I think that Mayhew can bring in a good coach for us for a start and like someone said above let that coach hire and fire his own staff. I believe that he has already done far more than Millen did and he also shows a will to win more than Millen. He got to sit back and watch Millen make mistakes probably thinking in his head what he would do or what the GM should have done. I think that this is actually a good move by the lions.
by hate2lovelions on Dec 29, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's Often True In Life
We learn more from mistakes than successes, and if we’re lucky it’ll be other peoples’ mistakes. :)
Herm Edwards will not be the Chiefs' head coach next season.
by UCrawford on Dec 30, 2008 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mayhew will more than likely do a fine job.
I’m pretty excited to hear him address our issues tomorrow.
by BtotheLT on Dec 29, 2008 1:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
…but I am torn because I want a sign that things are going to get better and I don’t feel like that can happen with someone who worked under Millen. I also wanted that sexy name, i.e. Parcell, Pioli, Reese, etc.
That said, I think that it is not necessarily fair that Mayhew be punished for the mistakes his boss made over several years. I see this season as the culmination of the Matt Millen era. I think he does have a brighht future and I would hate to see him get fired then go to, say the Browns and turn it around. It would be typical Detroit Lions too release/fire someone just to watch them blossom into a great athlete/executive.
by TonyDC on Dec 29, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From what I am reading...
the Gray interview may just be a way to get by the Rooney Rule. The Lions wouldn’t do any thing like that would they?
by TonyDC on Dec 29, 2008 2:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

















