Packers Embarrass Lions, Win 26-0
It would be accurate to say that the "Same Ol' Lions" showed up today at Lambeau Field to play the Packers. The Lions were terrible on offense, defense, and special teams, and some of the coaching decisions were questionable as well. All of those things led to the Packers shutting down Detroit and winning 26-0. Despite how poorly the Lions have played over the years, this was the first time they were shut out since December 2001 when the Bears won 24-0 and handed the Lions their 14th loss of the season.
Just like we saw many times last year, the Lions fell behind early and were basically out of it from the start. Although the Packers had a touchdown on the opening kickoff called back because of a holding penalty, they scored soon after on a long touchdown pass to James Jones. The Lions couldn't do anything on offense when they got the ball, and the Packers answered that with another touchdown. Things slowed down considerably after that and the Packers were unable to get into the end zone again during the rest of the game despite moving the ball effectively so often. They had to settle for 4 field goals instead, giving Green Bay 26 points on the day.
Although the Lions weren't technically out of it until the second half because the defense kept holding Green Bay to field goals, it was obvious Detroit had no chance of winning. The offense was downright atrocious from start to finish, and only twice did they threaten to score. The first threat ended on 4th and short when Kevin Smith was dropped for a loss, and the second threat ended when Drew Stanton was picked off in the end zone.
Wait. Drew Stanton? Why was he in the game? Well, Daunte Culpepper appeared to tweak his hamstring while scrambling on the second play of the third quarter, and he came after the next play and never returned. Stanton didn't play all that bad up until the interception in the end zone, as his first pick was really Brandon Pettigrew's fault.
The Lions are on a bye next week, which really couldn't have come at a better time. The injury list was bad enough coming into this game, and it only got worse when all was said and done. The Lions' starting quarterback, top receiver, and the majority of the defensive line are injured. Beyond that there are a ton of players that simply need a week off, because they are just banged up. The bye week will hopefully allow the team to get healthy enough to the point where they can come back in a couple weeks against the Rams with all of their weapons intact. Losing to the winless Rams would just suck, and I honestly don't know if the Lions can win if they are without Matthew Stafford and Calvin Johnson yet again.
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as bad as it was, had we been healthy we should have won.....
I know getting into the “what if” arguments are pretty pointless, but with our D holding green bay to only two scores despite the injuries, had we been healthy or just “healthier” I think we could have pulled out a win. Levy seemed to play really well, I wasn’t too fond of that pick initially, but seems like a solid pickup now…
A couple of other things that I noticed…….
Stanton looked pretty sharp outside of that second pick, and going along with that, although I’d been all for cpep to start at the beginning of the season, I’m on the stafford bandwagon now, and i like the idea of drew as the backup from his performance today..
Where was the other johnson for most of the game? did Green bay have him locked down that much? Seemed Northcutt/Standeford had most of our few receptions…
Secondary blew far too many assignments-anyone else catch the announcers joke about Rodgers incompletion and the lions actually having the reciever covered?
Also it seemed like manram’s presence was missed on the o-line-maybe smith would have ran better had he been in there?
….and I knew it was gonna end ugly when they had someone from the o-line come in on the d for a couple of those plays….
I know the thing with the secondary has been the story of our season so far, but it seemed really obvious today to someone like myself who is more of a casual observer then anything…
hope they come out of the bye week hard charging…
by KrazyKarl84 on Oct 18, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We lost 26-0
No way you can say we should have won regardless of who was injured. If anything, we should have been blown out even more than 26 points.
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by Sean Yuille on Oct 18, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for bailing on you guys in the game thread
I was just so tired and depressed at out performance. In some ways, I’m happy we only conceded one field goal in the second half. I’ll probably give my thoughts on the game in the next day or so since I’ll be at uni for most of the day.
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by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 18, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed Hyper
I bailed out after Stanton’s pic in the endzone. I’m shocked we have regressed from the first week of the season but I think the majority of that is due to injuries. Every year it seems I don’t think we’re that bad on paper, well except for 2008, and every year we just don’t put it together. I’m lost. I just really want Schwartz to publicly lash this team’s performance, although I don’t think he will. He must be truly ticked off at this point.
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by NYCLionsfan on Oct 18, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Injuries
really hurt today…….Not sure we would have won but it would have been a better game.
by BennieBladesFan on Oct 18, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said in another thread
I sorta expected this type of game. I mean, our injuries are atrocious and our talent level is still not good enough. These sorta things were bound to happen, I’m actually sorta relieved it stayed under 30 points, it could’ve been 40 plus.
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by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 19, 2009 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please explain
“I honestly don’t know if the Lions can win if they are without Matthew Stafford…”. What the hell does that mean? What game was he the difference in?
Not only that, but what game can they win without 3 D linemen?
If the Pack was not so hell-bent of self-destruction, this would have been an even bigger smear.
by rbanner on Oct 18, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
If you can’t see the difference between the way Stafford controls the ball and how Culpepper….well….doesn’t….then, you are just too stuck on critiquing Stafford. It isn’t the D-linemen that screwed us so far this season….it’s the secondary. Plain, and simple.
GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!
by Twon82 on Oct 18, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Our offense is usually clueless out there with Culpepper
In the one and a half games he played we had 1 red zone appearance. I think that says it all. We can consistently move the ball without Stafford.
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by Sean Yuille on Oct 18, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean. You're Right
ClodPecker Suckxxxxxxxxxx!!!!
by dylan415 on Oct 18, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You cant be serious????
When Staff plats I feel confident we may get 20 pts……If culpepper is out there im hoping we hit double digits
by BennieBladesFan on Oct 18, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I repeat
What game has Stafford been the difference in? None of you have answered.
If any of you think Stafford would have been the difference today, explain why.
So far, you girls have hid under your skirts…
by rbanner on Oct 18, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every game he's played
NO, MIN, CHI, WAS.
Stafford played better in each of those games than Culpepper has shown in his game and a half. Stafford was therefore a positive difference in all 4 of the games he played.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
by GRLion on Oct 18, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What game did CP get picked 3 times in?
Sorry?
by rbanner on Oct 18, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still better overall in that game than anything Culpepper showed
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
by GRLion on Oct 18, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many points do they give you for that?
1 Red Zone trip.
1 touchdown.
1 1/2 games.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
by GRLion on Oct 18, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did not come up with the standard
which was move the ball. You want to shigft the goal posts, fess up to it first.
by rbanner on Oct 18, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's done
all trade value for Culpepper is gone.. i was hoping we could get more than a 7 for him … we may get nothing… clearly Stanton could be our perm. 2 QB…
DEFENSE will be the theme of the 2010 draft…
I hope we do not lose to the Rams they have fought hard in their losses this year
GO LIONS 2009! the transformation begins.
by DINORDO on Oct 19, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had quietly suspected that all season.....that playing Pep would DECREASE his trade value
I thought that Pep was done……suspected he was the 3rd best QB we had. Now the whole league knows it.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
by GRLion on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the answer was evident...
…he’s made a difference in every game thus far that he’s played in. It isn’t one player that wins a game, but Stafford is the leader of this team ALREADY….Culpepper doesn’t command like he does, for some reason. We put points on the board with Stafford….not Culpepper. We keep the ball of the field with Stafford…not Culpepper. The defense can rest more with Stafford out there….not Culpepper.
No one is saying we definitely would’ve won with Stafford in today, but I can damn well guarantee we would’ve been less embarrassing to watch. Matter of fact, I guarantee it. When Stafford comes back, so will our offense….and our defense will improve because of it. Will Stafford win every game for us? Of course not, but that’s not the point.
GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!
by Twon82 on Oct 18, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've hated on Stafford since... well, since you started posting here.
Stafford gives us an edge over what Culpepper has shown the past two games. If you can’t see that, well….
by DrewsLions on Oct 18, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
???
You’ll take your ball and go home? It is not about what Culpepper has or hasn’t done. What has Stafford done?
And don’t give me this last two weeks crap, either. There has been no CJ the last two weeks.
by rbanner on Oct 18, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plain and simple he moves the ball
Obviously it’s harder to do without Calvin, but Culpepper just doesn’t seem to be able to move the ball consistently.
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by Sean Yuille on Oct 18, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moves the ball?
Okay, what multi TD game does he have? Sorry?
by rbanner on Oct 18, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said that Staff moves the team....
Its not just about Staff doing everything himself. I’m not sure what you expect Staff to do this year? Flacco and Ryan did not carry their teams last year and Sanchez is doing nothing for his team this year.
Please explain what it would take for you to concede that playing Staff is our best option at QB, right now.
by NorthLeft12 on Oct 18, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It means
exactly what it says. If Staff is so great, where are the numbers to prove it?
You guys act as though he is the greatest draft choice at QB since P. Man. What has he done to show that? What has he done to show he was worthy of the No.1 overall pick, let alone the Lions starting job?
by rbanner on Oct 18, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you seriously still trying to argue that he shouldn't be the starter?
Are you Culpepper’s mom or something? The coaches obviously felt Stafford was better suited to start, and I’d say 99% of the people on this site would agree with them after the last two weeks. What has Culpepper shown that he should start? You are so freaking unwilling to even consider the opposing opinion that it’s not worth arguing with you.
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by Sean Yuille on Oct 18, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rbanner...
…wants Stafford to be Tom Brady in his first 4 games. It’s called patience, my friend…get some. We knew this wouldn’t be a playoff year. It’s a year for Stafford to build. Get off his case, and let it happen. Culpepper is not the QB of the future for us…..you need to be arguing against the secondary.
GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!
by Twon82 on Oct 18, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The secondary need help before the season
I would rather have seen the Lions draft a CB than Williams. I cannot believe they used another 2nd rd. pick on a safety, good as Delmas has been.
by rbanner on Oct 18, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude you need to just stop....
your Anti-Stafford agruments are unfounded and old.
by JCruize on Oct 18, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delmas is the only good player we have in the secondary
Good pick. We need CB’s and safeties both. If anything, we needed MORE, ……but Delmas was a good start. Agreed on D. Williams; I would have rather seen a CB taken in the 3rd IN ADDITION to Delmas in the 2nd.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
by GRLion on Oct 19, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Consider what?
You guys keep to the same bogus arguments, week after week.
What the coaches feel or do not feel has nothing to do with anything. If I had given that contract to him, I’d feel something to. Gas!
The coaches do not make the decision, Schwartz does. And he has someone to answer to, the guy who drafted a QB that had questions marks, even in college.
Hell, I don’t think CP or Stanton are any great shakes, but neither is the rook.
It is you who are willing to concede that point, which the stats bear out!
by rbanner on Oct 18, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concede what point exactly?
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by Sean Yuille on Oct 18, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't really have one...
He wants an option that isn’t there… a good veteran that gives us a better chance to win.
What he can’t see is that Stafford has all the tools and intelligence to be a great quarterback and all that’s missing is the experience.
by DrewsLions on Oct 18, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Staff's numbers
are awful. Back to the Paul Silas moment.
by rbanner on Oct 19, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah... and 22.0
passer rating is AWESOM!!!! WOO WOO!
by CLF on Oct 19, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never said awesome
But compared to a 27.4 with CJ…
by rbanner on Oct 19, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stafford had that rating in his FIRST NFL start
Culpepper has been in the league how many years? What that…. 11 years, you say? Oh okay… just curious.
by DrewsLions on Oct 19, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he had who to throw to?
Just curious!
by rbanner on Oct 20, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it would have helped...
if he had Johnson in there. But just because he didn’t play, that’s no excuse to gain under 50 yards in 3 quarters of play and thrown another horrific INT. No excuse whatsoever. You are just arguing for the sake of arguing and don’t realize how silly you come off.
When time proves you wrong with Stafford, you’ll abandon the site with your tail between your legs. Run along little puppy… run along…. lol
by DrewsLions on Oct 20, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHEN HE THROWS 3 IN ONE GAME
get back to me. You haven’t shown me the good game, the veteran poise, or the real deal some of you clowns have referred to.
Look at the next post: “Rookie stats usually suck.” Proves my point without even knowing it…
by rbanner on Oct 20, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So 3 picks is the #, eh?
Stanton showed Culpepper up on Sunday, immediately moving the ball into scoring range. Pettigrew boned a 3rd down conversion and Stanton tried to force a TD in Garbage time.
Culpepper should be moved to 3rd string.
by CLF on Oct 20, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys, don't waste your electrons on this Staff hater.
He makes no sense, resorts to namecalling, and refuses to back up anything he says. This whole thread is like arguing with a spoiled brat.
by NorthLeft12 on Oct 20, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the guy
who never backs up what he says, changes the subject, and backs away from any facts presented to him.
See any namecalling in this post?
by rbanner on Oct 20, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offensive PPG in Stafford starts?
19.
Offensive PPG in Culpepper starts?
6.5. Yeah, Stafford doesn’t make a lick of difference.
by Trysdor on Oct 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about you rbanner
You were here complaining about Stafford when things weren’t going well in the first 3 weeks, then Stafford has two good games…your no where to be seen. Now, your back to defend Culpepper….I just don’t know about you fella.
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by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 19, 2009 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What two good games?
What the hell are you talking about? He hasn’t even had one good game!
by rbanner on Oct 19, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
So what do you classify as a good game….
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by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 19, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, at least Stafford can get the one
Culpepper and Stanton cannot even manage that.
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by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 19, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stafford WON a game...
that doesn’t count for anything? The TDs will come, but at lease he showed poise, leadership and some skill behind center.
by DrewsLions on Oct 19, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please!
He beat a girl’s team. Granted, for the Lions that is an achievement. But to say he showed any poise or skill is silly. As for leadership, that would require him to actually do something that makes the other players pay attention. Ever heard of lead by example?
by rbanner on Oct 20, 2009 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Dude… you’re ridiculous. I’m out! Peace….
by DrewsLions on Oct 20, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL... now you're just acting childish....
PLEASE show me how Culpepper is a better QB using yds, TDs, winning percentage, and INTs this year…. OH, and don’t forget the ‘w’ collumn or total offensive production, or 3rd down percentage, or plays over 20yds…..
by CLF on Oct 20, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you are showing the intellect of a 2 year old
Half the attempts (again, for the cahllenged folks out there, without the team’s best player) and you want ot compare yds. & TDs? Moronic!!!
by rbanner on Oct 20, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Convient excuses...
you should make a movie.
by CLF on Oct 20, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's secretly...
Matt Millen. That would explain his talent evaluation skills.
by DrewsLions on Oct 20, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evaluation skills?
Did I not already say CP and Stanton weren’t any great shakes? Please read before you post!
by rbanner on Oct 20, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you think you know that Stafford isn't any good
after 4 games…. contrary to the opinions of just about everyone else on this site. So tell me, what’s more likely… that you are in fact the only one right here and that Stafford is a below average QB and either Culpepper or Stanton gives us the best chance to win, or what the rest of us sees – that the guy is loaded with potential and is already better than Culpepper and Stanton and gives us the best chance to win? I’ll let you think about it for a sec…
….Jeopardy theme song plays in the background…
Thought about it enough? Yep, that’s what I thought. I won’t hold it against you. At least you’ve gotten to step one… admitting your wrong.
by DrewsLions on Oct 20, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see a Full page breakdown...
Start a fan post Banner.
Lay out all your observations of Stafford, the good and the bad.
Then maybe we can at the least, understand your mentality.
by CLF on Oct 21, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's called Occam's Razor.....
…….which, according to Wikipedia, is:
“when you have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions, the simpler one is the better.”
A similar concept was stated by Sir Isaac Newton:
“we are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances. Therefore, to the same natural effects we must, so far as possible, assign the same causes.”
In short, the simplest answer is usually the correct one. It’s much more likely for only one of us to be wrong than for only one of us to be right, and more likely that the stats and game tape we’ve seen are truly indicative, rather than a pile of excuses and convoluted “what ifs”.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
by GRLion on Oct 22, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm...
Logic is win.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 23, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have to admit I'm thinking about the next draft and offseason already.
I was hyped about the season because I wanted to see Staff and the other young guys develop and see what competent coaches could do, but these injuries are just frustrating the hell out of me.
by NorthLeft12 on Oct 18, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Sanchez looks like crap today
There’s some solace in that for me
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by NYCLionsfan on Oct 18, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stafford is definitely our QB
It’s just a matter of putting a solid supporting defense in there.
GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!
by Twon82 on Oct 18, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure why that makes you feel better.
Staff was the right guy to pick and will be an excellent QB for many years. I could care less how Sanchez does. Ditto for all the other guys we passed up.
by NorthLeft12 on Oct 18, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
10/29, 129 yards, 5 INT
Lol
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by Sean Yuille on Oct 18, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do take a strange satisfaction in seeing Sanchez struggle
He’s now thrown a lot more picks than Stafford..
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by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 19, 2009 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
It’s sorta a Manning/Leaf dynamic. There’s a perception that when a pair of QB’s is drafted in the 1st Round, one is a big success and the other is a complete bust.
True for:
Manning/Leaf
Aaron Rodgers/Alex Smith
Carson Palmer/Kyle Boller
Jay Cutler/Vince Young & Matt Leinert
Not true for:
David Carr/Joey Harrington
JaMarcus Russell/Brady Quinn
Eli Manning/Philip Rivers/Ben Roethelisberger
Matt Ryan/Joe Flacco
But the perception is there. Add in the New York media hype for the Dirty Sanchez, the early success of Sanchez and the Jets in the first couple games, and the know-nothing talk show hosts who like to make the 2008 0-16 Lions the butt of their jokes (get a calendar, it’s 2009…..2008 is soooo last year), and, as the overused saying goes, …it’s a perfect storm. All of that feeds the “same old Lions” talk. Manning is headed to the HoF, and Leaf flopped. Sanchez won early with a good Jets team, and Stafford started slowly with a team that was 0-16 last year. So then the assumption goes, Sanchez is Manning and Stafford is Leaf. It feeds into everything else the New York media and the late-night talk show hosts are saying. Nobody has to actually do their homework and analyze the changes that Mayhew and Schwartz have made….it’s easier just to laugh at us. The lazy man’s way out.
So yeah, I’m pissed at the media. The media is making Sanchez out to be the hero, and is poised to label Stafford as the buffoon. But we’re not going to play that game. We as Lions fans refuse to let people come here and laugh at us, refuse to let them call us the “same old Lions”. The same goes for the media. I enjoy watching Sanchez fail just as much as I enjoy watching Stafford succeed. It’s our way thumbing the media’s nose, our way of telling the media and everyone else that we are not the “same old Lions”, that Sanchez is overhyped, and that we’re not going to play the roles assigned to us by them. If Sanchez wants to be the hero, he’s got to go out there and play and earn it.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
by GRLion on Oct 19, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
amen brother
I was laughing my ass off when I found out that Sanchez threw 5 picks
by JCruize on Oct 19, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team played hard.....
……remember we have a ton of injuries and had one more at least during the game……Bye week will be good…..Hopefully we can get Staff back after the bye because he is all we got at that position…..I hope Sammie Hill is healthy after the bye…..He is a key on that defense
by BennieBladesFan on Oct 18, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they need a healthy D-line
too many guys banged up. They were able to get to Rodgers today anyway, but GB’s o-line is the worst in the NFL.
Stafford needs to get healthy because Culpepper and Stanton won’t cut it for extended stretches. He’s definitely the best QB on the roster.
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by handsomerob1 on Oct 18, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peterson had a great game as well......
…..10 tackles and 2.5 sacks.
by BennieBladesFan on Oct 18, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come'on, Culpepper fans...
Time to fess up!
Stanton just gained a qb rank… what a breath of fresh air from ’the veteran"..lol… Culpepper need to retire…. for good.
by CLF on Oct 18, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hold it a second......
I don’t see how Stanton distinguished himself out there. I have never been a Culpepper booster but man, without Staff, he is our only competent QB.
Until Staff is good to go, Daunte is the QB that gives us our best chance to win.
I was hoping we could skip all the told-you-sos on this site. We don’t need anymore negativity.
by NorthLeft12 on Oct 18, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ITs not a 'told you so' situation....
Its a “demote” Culpepper.
He has shown nothing to substantiate ‘competent’.
by CLF on Oct 18, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Demote him in favor of who? Stanton?
against Green Bay…
Stanton – 5/11, 57 yards, 5.2 ypa, 0td, 2int
Culpepper – 6/14, 48 yards, 3.4 ypa, 0td, 1int
So…Stanton’s ypa was slightly less horrible than Culpeppers, but Culpepper only threw one pick, not two.
If you just look at yesterday’s game, it’s an ugly contest with no clear winner at this point. At least Culpepper had a moderately decent game last week, for a backup playing against the Steelers (62% comp, 7.6 ypa, 1-1 td-int)
by n4ry4 on Oct 19, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you even watch the game?
That first pick was a perfectly thrown 3rd conversion that went off the flat palms of pettigrew’s hands… right into the chasing defender.
Not only that, but after his 2nd consecutive subpar performance… Culpepper should be benched.
Just like the secondary personel.
by CLF on Oct 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fessed up after last week.
Stafford’s the man. Hope that knee heals up soon.
by WBL on Oct 18, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I too concede…..Stafford is the man, and he WILL be again when he is healthy. In the meantime, I think we will see more of Daunte Culpepper unless his hammy is too sore to play. I’d rather see Stanton get some playing time at this point. Regardless of the fact that Calvin Johnson was out for the last two games, in which DC was the starter, it still does not take away from the fact that we DO have other guys who can get the job done…..IE Dennis Northcutt, Bryant Johnson, Will Heller, and even Kevin Smith (I am not saying Pettigrew because his drops are pissing me off). I must also add, however, that the offensive line has played HORRIBLY over the last two games, and the blitz pickup was almost non-existent. I wonder how well Daunte or Stanton would do if they had Denver’s offensive line…..or even San Diego’s (they did quite a job of stopping Denver’s non-stop blitzing on Monday night…..even though they did not, and could not, stop them every time). Other than that though, the QB has to find a way to get rid of the ball, avoid the rush, or move the chains…..regardless of how good his protection is. Given the poor play of our O-line over the last two games, I thought Daunte did an average job. We need better than average though, and that points to Daunte not being capable of getting the job done anymore. I say give the ball to Drew Stanton if Stafford can’t play……let’s see what we have in the younger player.
by KDawg on Oct 20, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look on the bright side, fellas
We’re not Titan fans. :D
by Trysdor on Oct 18, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They Miss Schwartz
Coaching that defense
by BennieBladesFan on Oct 18, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dante
He’s done, i thought maybe after last week against the steelers he might be back, but was i sorely mistaken. The fat is we desperately need stafford and calvin in the game. northcut , and bryant johnson aren’t bad, they complement calvin, but we put up points with staff and calvin
by eatemuplions on Oct 18, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Playing at Green Bay
I’m just sick of this streak losing at Green Bay. I know the team and field is full of history and such but you have got to be kidding me. I hope we crush the Rams by 30 then bring in the third stringers. (Not 60 like brady and Belicheck)
by Beerhero on Oct 19, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Positives
There wasn’t may but I can think of two-
Kevin Smith seemes to get back to a bit of form, managing 4 yds a carry, let’s hope he builds on that after the bye week.
I know Green Bay’s O-Line can’t protect anything but it’s good to see our damaged D-line make some plays. Julian Peterson’s 2.5 sacks were good to see and Avril’s 1.5 were also nice (needs to cut down on the penalties though).
That’s all I can think of.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 19, 2009 3:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs















