Monday Notes: Trade Deadline Nearing
- With the trade deadline less than 24 hours away, all appears to be quiet in Detroit. Although that was the case last year before Roy Williams was traded to the Cowboys, that move wasn't totally unexpected. Regardless of what the Lions said, the feeling was that he wouldn't be a Lion for long, though no one thought the trade would be as sweet as it was.
This year is different because the Lions are the ones looking to bring in a player via a trade. Some names being mentioned are Glenn Dorsey and Nnamdi Asomugha. I think Dorsey is someone who the Lions could realistically trade for, but I doubt Asomugha would come cheap. I guess Martin Mayhew could always pull a fast one on Al Davis, but I don't know if there is enough time to sign a sprinter who can "catch" in order to ship him off to Oakland.
I don't really expect anything trade-related to happen for the Lions, but at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if Mayhew pulls the trigger on a deal that brings some talent to Detroit. I doubt he will want to give up a draft pick, so my guess is that if a deal happens, it will include only players. - Speaking of Mayhew, he was asked about the possibility that Matthew Stafford's injury is more serious than originally anticipated, and this is what he said:
"It's just gossip," Mayhew said Sunday at halftime of the Lions' 26-0 loss to the Packers. "It's gossip. I'm not going to comment on it. I'm not going to give it any credence or credibility by making a statement about it."
Schwartz also commented on Stafford's injury and simply said that he will practice when he's healthy enough to get back on the field.
Asked if he was denying the report, Mayhew said: "What I said is what I just said.""What I should have said is that we'll get him back on the practice field as soon as we can,'' Schwartz said. "I don't know if that will be this week, I don't know if that will be next week, I don't know if it will be the week after; but, as soon as he's ready and he's able to get out there we'll get him back on the practice field. He's doing everything he can to get back and we're doing everything we can to get him back and that's the philosophy we'll take with it."
I'm not about to start panicking over the possibility that Stafford's injury is much more serious than him simply missing a couple games, but I would be lying if I said I wasn't worried. All I can say is that either the Lions were not honest in saying that Stafford was questionable for the Packers game or he suffered a setback in the days leading up to the game. I say that because in the video FOX showed of Stafford walking around before the game, he was limping considerably. It wasn't a slight limp; it was a severe one. Perhaps it was just hurting a little more than usual, but I am starting to become more and more concerned.
(More after the jump)
- In his most recent blog post, Cliff Avril called Larry Foote "[a] steady influence in the locker room."
- Remember how Drew Stanton came into the game and led Bryant Johnson right into an enormous hit? I think Stanton's description of the play is the most accurate one I've read so far:
We did not have success my first drive, and I almost got Bryant killed in the process. After apologizing and warming up more, all I wanted to do was go back out there and move the ball on offense.
Johnson thankfully returned shortly after the big hit, because I thought he at least broke a rib or something like that. He must have just had his bell rung and got the wind knocked out of him. - Don't expect to see the Lions switch to a 3-4 defense as long as Gunther Cunningham is here.
- If Phil Simms was starting a franchise and got to be the GM and head coach, he would pick Matthew Stafford as his quarterback over Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and Mark Sanchez.
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On the Mitch Albom show
Stafford also came on and had no clue where the rumors came from… He said he never went to Dr. Andrews and never talked about surgery…
Although a train went by his house around this time and of course Mitch and Kenny made the joke that he was leaving Detroit after the horrible loss.
All in all it was really entertaining…
It made me feel a lot better about the injury too.
by ZWC11 on Oct 19, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The ESPN story is getting misinterpreted as well
They said Andrews is going to evaluate a new MRI, not that Stafford is going to visit him.
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by Sean Yuille on Oct 19, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, good catch, Sean
The Lions were just going to send Dr. Andrews a copy of the latest MRI for him to look at.
Has Dr. James Andrews been around forever? I seem to remember him doing stuff for the Tigers in the 1970’s. Arthroscopic pioneer.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
by GRLion on Oct 19, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not just me though... It's ESPN itself...
They clearly said on sports center he had a visit and that there is a good possibility of surgery…
I figured it was wrong though.
by ZWC11 on Oct 19, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Aso is on his way to MoTown
Although that would be a huge coup for us. Dorsey seems more likely and as long as it’s not to expensive, I’d be happy with it.
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by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 19, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MAn,
Asomugha sum1 we sure could use…we definately need some major help in the 2ndary, that’s why for the life of me can’t understand, espeacially when I see guys like Vontae Davis, why we didn’t grab a CB in the draft, instead of grabbing a bunch of LB, which I know thwey are aging except for ES, but still. We need(ed) more help there & @ DE, or a Ron Brace/Ziggy Hood. Levy has been pretty good in liue of injuries, but seems like every QB we face is the best in the NFL, just picking apart the D with relative ease. I do agree Dorsey’s a little more realistic, given his ties to Gunther. But, I’d give up @ least 2nd rnd for Asomugha, although idk he is like 28 or 29, maybe just a 3rd, idk if he could swing a deal w/ Backus for him, the OL couldn’t be 2 much worse w/o him.
by LTownDown on Oct 19, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked B.J. Raji, Vontae Davis, and Ron Brace, but....
Raji went at #9, Vontae Davis at #25, and Brace went at #40, meaning we either get Pettigrew or Davis, and unless we trade up for another 2nd Round pick, we get either Delmas or Brace, not both. It’s a tradeoff. I’m happy with Pettigrew and Delmas.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
by GRLion on Oct 19, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayhew work your magic
It can happen again… let’s see what happens.. 1.5 days to go…. or the draft… unless it’s a no brainer deal like Williams… I see the Lions making no moves… maybe… Good luck Lions… always behiond you… lets get another fleece deal.. can you imagine hopw badthe Lions would be if the Williams deal was not done? Beleive it or not we got two years of picks in the 2009 draft and they are performing well!!!!!!!!
GO LIONS 2009! the transformation begins.
by DINORDO on Oct 19, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anything will happen
-It will take a 2nd rounder for Dorsey, and he might be a great DT to much with Hill for the next 5-7 years I don’t see the chiefs giving up on him that quick.
-Asomugha would be a little tougher to swing for a deal for, and I don’t want to think about what we would have to give up to get him.
-I think this is just the panic from having a horrible game on Sunday, what would our record be right now if Stafford and Calvin hadn’t been hurt the last 2 games, would we of lost them?
-I don’t trust a word they say about Stafford or CJ injury, all I can do is pray they both come back after the bye and they can start a strong 2nd half together. If the Chiefs were looking to have a fire sale and willing to trade Dorsey and would take our 2nd round pick I’d have to jump on that train, Jackson is old and can you think of Dorsey and Hill in the middle.
- I wonder what players we have that other teams may want, not being any of our core players!!!!!!
by msivits on Oct 19, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i would give up...
1st and two 3rds for Asomungha
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by CapitolLions on Oct 19, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
too expensive
if the Lions do their homework (still a tall order), they could get a corner like Asomungha for one of those picks. I’m ok with trading the first-rounder because the contracts are so damn expensive (just look at Stafford’s paychecks…), but two thirds is definitely over the top. Dorsey would be a good pickup for the Lions, but I doubt the Chiefs would give him up less than two years into his career.
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by handsomerob1 on Oct 19, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Chiefs Drafted two DE's with thier first two picks this past draft...
I know Dorsey would be a DT here. But in KC with the 3-4. Dorsey is playing RDE. And he was not the pick of the current GM or HC there.
by JCruize on Oct 19, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A CB linke Asomungha?
Get the f*ck out of here…
1) there isnt a CB in this years draft close
2) see #1
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by CapitolLions on Oct 19, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
I don’t know about a 1st and two 3rds… but give them a 1st, Julian Peterson, and Jeff Backus.
by Nate D. on Oct 20, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Sprinter who can catch"
Classic. I love it.
by James L on Oct 19, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We are talking about the Raiders...
The same team that straight up release Hall in the middle of the season. And still had to pay him. Even after Washington pick he up. The very same Raiders that trade Moss away for a forth round pick. Asomugha could be very attainable. I say go get him.
by JCruize on Oct 19, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Chiefs just traded DT Tank Taylor to the Panthers
I doubt they’ll trade Dorsey now
by JazzyBBP on Oct 19, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he was a back up...
And KC use Dorsey as a DE in their 3-4. And they drafted two DE’s this season with their first two picks. Dorsey is on the trading block.
by JCruize on Oct 19, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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what if, wont happen but the lions could use a better #2 reciever, would free up calvin and help our young stafford
by timmy20 on Oct 19, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe Thomas
LIONS NEED THIS GUY. If they could give a 2nd and a 3rd this year and a 3rd next year that would be a great thing. They need a franchise pro bowl OT to protect stafford. they would still have this year’s first round pick to get either a DT or a S in eric berry. This team could be so much better if they could get Joe Thomas. I would give up a 1st and a 3rd but thts the highest tht the lions could afford to due. C’mon Lions get JOE THOMAS!!!
by David7 on Oct 20, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see the Browns giving him up
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 20, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Browns would be dumb not to take a 1st and a 3rd from us
A. They will both be high picks to help them rebuild
B. It frees up cap space for them
by msivits on Oct 20, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about
Sims and a 3rd round pick for Asomugha?
I can’t see Backus having any trade value whatsoever. I think people are putting him out there because he is so awful and no one wants him. Maybe we could get a mediocre special teams player for him?
by ImPuLsE on Oct 20, 2009 2:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We finally get a little depth at a position...
And you wanna trade it away so fast? We have four good LBs. And the NFL is built on depth. And why trade picks? We are a young team. And why trade for a high price CB?
I Don’t agree with any of it.
by j16941 on Oct 20, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only because the raiders are dumb enough...
Other than that…Sims and a 3rd wouldn’t get it done from any other team.
Nnamdi is nearly, if not THE best CB in the NFL, and is still young….It took a young Pro-Bowl franchise running back (portis) and a 2nd round pick for Champ…and that the kind of package it would take for this…either 3 top three round picks, or a Young stud and a 1st or 2nd rounder
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by CapitolLions on Oct 20, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd kill for Asomugha!!!!!!!
Our secondary is anemic at best. If Mayhew can swing that deal I’d be thrilled!!!!!! I would also like us to get Dorsey but there is no way i see us getting both, remeber Mayhew wants to build the team through the draft. I feel Levy is making Sims look like a chump so start Levy and use Sims in a package for Asomugha. Crazy Al Davis loves speed and Ernies fast so get it done Mayhew!!!!!
by Usmarine0341 on Oct 20, 2009 2:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2010 1st and 2011 3rd
Gets it done…(you guys are right…3 picks is too much)
But a 1st and a 3rd next year would be worth it, and probably get Nnamdi here!
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by CapitolLions on Oct 20, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade deal line almost over and no moves
: ( knew that would happen though, so I can’t be to upset
by msivits on Oct 20, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trades in the NFL are rare in mid-season
Besides Mayhew wants to go through the draft. If a deal falls on his plate I say take it but I don’t see it happening.
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by NYCLionsfan on Oct 20, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What I heard about available Raiders
I heard LB Kirk Morrison and S Michael Huff are available, not Asomugha
by JazzyBBP on Oct 20, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mmm
kirk morrison barely started this year.
huff would be nice though.
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by GhostManOnThird on Oct 20, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
drafting depth
Can’t see the Lions trading numerous draft picks. Assuming that they are going to continue to build depth through the draft. For trade I would nominate Jordan Dizon, in exchange for maybe a 3rd.
by BtotheLT on Oct 20, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No one would give up a 3rd for Dizon
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by CapitolLions on Oct 20, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
trade Sims for a 3rd rounder
i like what im seeing from Levy
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by RaysOfHope on Oct 20, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A 3rd rounder alone isnt worth giving up depth at LB
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