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At halftime, the Lions trail the Vikings by a score of 10-3.

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i got some grilled salmon going

if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin

by JCruize on Nov 15, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice Cruize

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like...

Some Little Ceasers. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. $5.55 everday!!!!

by topherclosson on Nov 15, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The score should be at least 24 - 3

We’re really lucky to be in this game.

Someone cover Sidney Rice in the 2nd half though PLEASE!!!

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

And yes

Two things I want this next half:

1. Wrap Peterson up

2. Cover Rice

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

you forgot WR's make a damn play

if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin

by JCruize on Nov 15, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Chasing down Peterson

was something that showed that at least the Lions have SOME fight in them.

by Tw3ek on Nov 15, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Good point. We’re still playing at least.

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

PS

NYC famous rays sucks ill stick to rosa’s over near 28th on the corner of 6th

by IAmGross on Nov 15, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

What??

dude get off the Upstate NY crack

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

i aint smoking no crack!

by IAmGross on Nov 15, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish we were

the 2nd half is going to be long I fear…………….

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i've got a 3 game parlay

broncos giving 3, saints giving 17 and falcons giving 2
the saints need to get their shit together

by stumpy8100 on Nov 15, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

What happened to Orton??

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

ankle, knee

not exactly sure but chris simms is gonna start the second half, at least according to dierdorf so take that with a grain of salt

by stumpy8100 on Nov 15, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Dorkdorf has been known to be wrong before

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

FOX does everything BUT talk about football

I hate those buffoons. Its just foolishness.

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

I seen

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

About to start back up

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

Challenge!

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Ball was out before he was down

Great start to the half. FUCK

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck

Thats a fumble………….

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

My Vikings nickname " Purple Prison Gangbang"

they have not mention it yet

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by JCruize on Nov 15, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Crap

It was a good run to.

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

For the 100th time this year

Fuck……………..soemone just stay in the cutback lanes PLEASE!!!!!

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

come on

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Everyone is broken

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

Jack Williams is hurt*

They said it was Manuel initially.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

+1

When is that cleveland game again??

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That, my friend, is improvement

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Crap

Both Manuel and Williams were hurt.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

not even touched

not surprised

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

Much too easy

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

No huddle

This seems to be the only way we can move the ball.

by Pistons21 on Nov 15, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

God Derrick Williams sucks

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

Quick pass to Calvin and he fumbles

Ball barely went out of bounds.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

Nice throw and catch

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

Good run

Got a lane, for once.

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

nice run KSmith

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

what a bitch

LETS HAVE SOME CONTACT
 im sorry but i hate when he ducks out like that

by IAmGross on Nov 15, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

Grew's struggling today

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

Yep

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

First down

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Nice Staff

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Grew has to keep his eyes on the ball

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Hate it when it bats up like that

Very dangerous

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Good catch

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Great catch

Didn’t think they were going to down him.

by Elfuego51 on Nov 15, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Goin nowhere there

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

Good work

3rd down conversion is working ATM

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

Dropped again

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

come on Morris

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

U know

That was a great play. Staff with a little pump fake. Maurice Morris had a first for sure,maybe more. HAVE to catch that

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

D. Williams is probable, Manuel questionable, J. Williams questionable

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Stafford is hit and fumbles

There’s a flag though.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Flag

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

hit to the head

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Damn right

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

What a play regardless of the penalty

Edwards looked like he was shot out of a cannon.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Morris tackled for a loss of 3

Let’s just abandon the run at this point.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Where is Smith?

He is runnin well

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Why did we draft the wrong Edwards??

(Kalimba not Ray)

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

we are the lions

do we really keep asking these questions?

by sahaider on Nov 15, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

TD!

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously guys.....

Has anyone noticed that the only time we move the ball is when we are passing to set up the run? We should be running the two minute drill the entire game.

by KDawg on Nov 15, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

+1 Silent KDawg

I’m with you.

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

My wife is home…..I can’t scream at the TV without her screaming at me for it…..

by KDawg on Nov 15, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Great drive

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

EP is good

Lions trail 17-10.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

All right!!!

Lets go D!!!!

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

Offsides on Minnesota

Penalty will be assessed on the kickoff.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

The refs still owe us for that push off from Sidney Rice in the 1st

So fuc* the Vikings fans

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

now that's what I call a solid drive!

Now if only Pettigrew could catch a ball, and Kevin Smith wouldn’t disappear from the game (for fantasy purposes)

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by ahtrap on Nov 15, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

so when percy harvin returns it for a td

the ep will be 5 yards back… is that how this works

by IAmGross on Nov 15, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Haha gross

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice kick

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

Not particularly

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

How about . . .

The Kings of Douchebaggery.

In homage to Jared Allen mostly.

by TennesseeYooper on Nov 15, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Great kick Hanson

Keep it away from Percy

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

Was that a Stan Kwan call? There is hope. lol

by Pistons21 on Nov 15, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Just like last week..........

All right D we need a HUGE STOP!!!! (ie: replay the record)

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

I'll say

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the drop AP

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Buchaneon!

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Quick pass goes to Harvin

There’s a flag. Harvin got to the 37

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah!

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

do you think calvin hobbes' parents

really liked science….or the comic strip?

by IAmGross on Nov 15, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

hahahah

i knew that……brain slip……SHUT UP SEAN

by IAmGross on Nov 15, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

Nice!

Go D..penalty was helpful.

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on the Vikes

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Not bad

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

All game

its the only thing thats working it seems

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets go Staff!!!

No pics PLEASE!!!! And Grew – catch the fucking ball if it comes your way

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

Same freaking offense as last time

Nothing else, but I feel like we’re going to see two Morris runs followed by a 5 yards dump off short of the first.

by Elfuego51 on Nov 15, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Let the legend of Staff begin@@@@@

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Smith goes down for a loss

And there was holding on Peterman. Penalty declined.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Cherilus is back in

Running game has completley shut down

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

yuck

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Big collision there

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Close, but not enough

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

go for it!!!

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

like the decision

now, let’s see if it works

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and now here comes the punt...probably

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by ahtrap on Nov 15, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That was dumb

Stafford tried to draw them offside for like 1 sequence of his cadence and then called timeout. We have 1 left.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

Let's hope we don't have to chase down points with little time left

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Stupid play calling

And a waste of a TO. What do we have to lose?? Just go for it

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

Howdy

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This is wehre the Lions give up a 83 yard TD

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Damnit

We should have went for it……………we’re not playing to win

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

lots of time

playing the field position battle

by KDawg on Nov 15, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Our D can't hold up forever

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Says history

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice tackle by JP

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

I feel like Peterson is due for yet another fumble.

One of the few players the Lions have some sort of a 1-up on, AP is always good for fumbles when we play the Vikings.

by Elfuego51 on Nov 15, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Incomplete!

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WOW!!!

I take that back – maybe our D can hold up!!! LOL

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

Another injury

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

all these injuries....now guys I've never heard of are getting hurt

and he’s a Lion….

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That was the worst circle ever.....

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

How is it not a sport?

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

because you just drive in a damn circle for 4 hours

i didn’t say it didn’t require skill but comparing it to football in terms of durability is ridiculous

by stumpy8100 on Nov 15, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't mean it ain't a sport....

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

run that many times, with as many crashes occur on a weekly basis

it’s impressive they can make it into the car for that many in a row

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by ahtrap on Nov 15, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Stafford sacked

Our OL is so bad.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Damn...sack

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Nice catch CJ

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

hey guys

if i have to read 20 threads about how we need to improve our o-line i will vomit.

we suck o-line
i get it

by IAmGross on Nov 15, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

I wo n’t say it

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

get the barf bag ready

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by ahtrap on Nov 15, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

lol.....

As long as some morons don’t post about Stafford and Smith being the problem.

by KDawg on Nov 15, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

no, it's obviously CJ's fault

he’s not being megatronic enough. clearly.

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by ahtrap on Nov 15, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a total bust

Another wasted Millen pick. He can’t even transform into a fire truck

by Kalzilla on Nov 15, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The Lions = MASH unit

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

Peterman probably should be carted off

But he’s walking off on his own. This looks like a serious injury though.

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by Sean Yuille on Nov 15, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

CJ drops it

It was a toughish one

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Is it legal to sign the fat guy out of the crowd in the middle of the game?

Don’t want to see a wide receiver have to line up at OL, the way all these guys keep getting hurt

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by ahtrap on Nov 15, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

should have been a late hit on Zack

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Sssshhhh! Don't give the refs ideas...

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by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 15, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry - no flags!!!!

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 15, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

True

but if that was Northcutt or Williams I would be screaming for a flag

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