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Lions Will Likely Be Without Matthew Stafford on Thanksgiving; Calvin Johnson Also Out?

Do you want the good news or the bad news first?

Let's go with the good news: Matthew Stafford's shoulder injury does not appear to be of the long-term variety.  Jim Schwartz called the injury an AC joint separation, which can either be a rather minor injury or one that requires surgery.  It all depends on the severity of it, and considering Schwartz didn't seem too worried about the long-term effects, my guess is that it isn't very serious.

The bad news is that Stafford probably won't be able to play on Thursday.  Schwartz was pretty vague when discussing Stafford's status for Thursday, but he did say this:

"There’s a chance that goes away in the next couple days, but structurally, everything’s good," coach Jim Schwartz said today. "I don’t think there’s any lasting damage, but he’s extremely sore, as you can expect."

If this wasn't the week of Thanksgiving where the Lions have such a quick turnaround from one game to the next, I think there would be a chance that Stafford wouldn't miss any time whatsoever.  Since he only can rest for three full days, though, the chances of him playing are not good, especially when you consider that the Lions aren't going to rush him back too quickly.

There is another dose of bad news in the form of Calvin Johnson's status for Thursday.  I said in the drive-by-drive breakdown that although my faith in Daunte Culpepper is not very high, at least if he started he would have Calvin Johnson to throw to this time around.  Well, that may not be the case.

Wide receiver Calvin Johnson also could miss the Thanksgiving Day game. He was listed on the injury report today with hand and knee injuries. Asked whether Johnson would play, Schwartz said: "We’ll see."

If both Stafford and Megatron are out, I'm going to just chalk this game up as a loss.  We saw how bad the Lions' offense was against Green Bay earlier this season when those two players were out, and I really don't things would be much different this time.  Sure, it's in Detroit and on Thanksgiving, but I think it would take a miracle for the Lions to even make this competitive without Stafford and Calvin.  I hope I'm wrong, but like I said, we saw what happened the first time the Lions and Packers played and Stafford and Calvin watched from the sideline.

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This could get ugly...

…once again on national TV if these two don’t play.

by giggy09 on Nov 23, 2009 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

Not a good way to convince the NFL to keep the Thanksgiving game with the Lions.

by giggy09 on Nov 23, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

OUCH!!

Our chances of pulling out an upset just got a lot smaller. Not to mention I don’t want to see CPep throw 4 yard outs on 3rd and 8 all day.

I spray paint my dog Honolulu Blue and Silver

Pic - me vs. Bears fans

by NYCLionsfan on Nov 23, 2009 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

Don't worry

He will stick a couple into a CB being double teamed by two of our WRs.

Go Stanton!!

by ATL Lion on Nov 23, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

YA, we need Johnson 2 occupy Woodson,

     Now that Harris is out, & Kampman 2, that hopefully slows down the past rush felt earlier this year. i think there OL’s healthy this time around, though.

by LTownDown on Nov 23, 2009 6:32 PM EST reply actions  

I think Culpepper could play well...

Think about it. He’s going to want to TRY to convince people that he should be a starter again in this league. This would be as good of a chance as any.

GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!

by Twon82 on Nov 23, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

Didn't he try that twice already this season?

How’d that work out?

What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.

by GRLion on Nov 27, 2009 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

C PEP

Is gunna 1 up Stafford and throw for 6 TD’s and 500 yards…

by ImPuLsE on Nov 23, 2009 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

……………..sorry i just passed out from not being able to breathe.

by IAmGross on Nov 23, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

On top of that, let me guess, they are wearing those stupid throwback jerseys...

… if it’s going to be ugly, we might as well look like hell also…

by Keevatron on Nov 23, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

I love the Lions throwback uni's

just my opinion. Reminds me of Barry shredding Chicago’s defense in the 1990’s on Thanksgiving

I spray paint my dog Honolulu Blue and Silver

Pic - me vs. Bears fans

by NYCLionsfan on Nov 23, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I love 'em too

not sure if I’m remembering correctly, but I think we were wearing those throwbacks when we took it to the Cowboys on Monday Night Football back in the day w/ Barry and co……I still remember going to school the next day w/ pride after that one

VERY disappointing if we’re going to be w/o our two young stars for that game…..I’m so sick of hearing reasons why the Lions shouldn’t have that game, I kind of want to show Calvin and Stafford off to the whole country. Ugh

by Angry Johnny on Nov 23, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I haven't been a fan long enough

The throwbacks just make me think of 2008 when they wore them a few times.

by n4ry4 on Nov 23, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i liked the black and blue alternatives

they were pretty good
dont know why they decided to not wear em

The beginning of the end of the misery

by Latif Masud on Nov 23, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

we dont have them any more

i was told thes are our new alternatives

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/104800/3251978803_cc80d945ac_o.jpg

prity fucking sick if you ask me

Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??

by det32 on Nov 23, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

As far as I know...

they don’t wear the Black alternates anymore because it was Mill…, Mille…, I can’t say It.

Because it was Him who brought in the Black outline around Bubbles, and the Black alternate jerseys (trying to add a Raiders Touch, lotta good that did). I’ll admit I liked them when they first came out.

But I burned my Black 81 Johnson Jersey in the driveway after the last game of last year.
On a happier not though, I just ordered MY NEW SHINEY STAFFORD #9 today!

GO LIONS!!!

by j16941 on Nov 24, 2009 7:19 AM EST up reply actions  

turkey day will be the throwbacks tho

Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??

by det32 on Nov 23, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

with culpeper

I say we play two tight end most of the game and try to run the ball. Our tight ends are pretty good. Make green bay put 8 men in the box.

by lions09 on Nov 23, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

culpepper

I agree, if the Lions win without Stafford and Calvin, their running game is gonna have to be efficient, and Pettigrew and Heller are going to have to be huge…….the offense is gonna have to dominate time of possession, and most importantly get touchdowns instead of field goals……after this past game though, I feel like the Lions can do anything…………..I’m drunk in the Lions or something……..

by douglazz63 on Nov 24, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

At least

GB doesn’t have Harris and Kampman

by ImPuLsE on Nov 24, 2009 1:26 AM EST reply actions  

Sad

Without Stafford & CJ, I think struggling will be an understatement. Unless C-Pep has a great game, which I am hoping for, I think it will be a case of us just making it competitive. That could also be tough. Either way, I’ll be here, not sleeping in this time.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.

by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 24, 2009 4:46 AM EST reply actions  

I'm not so worried about the offense

its the defense that I think will be the cause of another thanksgiving L. A Rodgers is gonna have a field day against us – just look what the Mighty Quinn did!!

I spray paint my dog Honolulu Blue and Silver

Pic - me vs. Bears fans

by NYCLionsfan on Nov 24, 2009 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

can it get any worse than...

last years 47-10 beat down by the Titans?
or
the 26-0 loss a couple weeks ago?

a nice stat from the last meeting….drew stanton was our leading passer with 57 yards.

by cridg1zt on Nov 24, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

We'll see what happens

It may be a game in the first quarter….. at least we have the Lions… I’d love to see an upset… DEFENSE put it on your shoulders!!!

GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.

by DINORDO on Nov 24, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

Vikings fan thought

I’m a Vikes fan, and I would love for Johnson and Stafford to play this week against a weakened GB defense. But I’m hoping your coaches are smarter than risking that. These are two great young players, and as painful as it may be, this year is really a loss. The last thing you want it to compound one of these injuries.

Your team is probably going to get a top 10 – 12 pick based on where they are and their remaining schedule. With one or two decent free agent pickups and a healthy Johnson and Stafford, the Lions should be competitive next year and dangerous the next. If you can get a great running back in the draft your offense will be dangerous next year. And this is not a knock on your current RB. But think about what a Peterson of Chris Johnson type would do for your offense.

by llajoy on Nov 24, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

part 2

Look at what Peterson did for us…………..

by llajoy on Nov 24, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see your point

A guy like Peterson or Johnson have huge big play potential, and currently, Smith ain’t delivering that for us. However, I blame that on our O-line rather than on Smith.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.

by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 25, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

According to espn, stafford was wired for sound for the game

Do i need to blow steve sabol to get my hands on that tape? Thanksgiving is not looking good but I haven’t felt this optimistic about our long term future in a long time.

by stumpy8100 on Nov 24, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

smok scren

he will play

Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??

by det32 on Nov 24, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

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