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Drive-By-Drive Breakdown of Rams' 17-10 Win Over Lions

Here is a drive-by-drive look at how the Rams beat the Lions by a score of 17-10 on Sunday.

1st Quarter

  • The Lions got the ball first and immediately established the run.  The first four plays of the game were handoffs to Kevin Smith, and they were effective.  Smith picked up 5, 4, 3, and 5 yards on the carries, and Maurice Morris came in and ran for 7 yards, picking up right where Smith left off.  The drive was going great and was very promising until Brandon Pettigrew was flagged for holding.  This was the beginning of the end and when the drive started to stall.  Smith picked up 12 yards on a pass from Matthew Stafford on the very next play, but he was dropped for a loss of 1 on second down.  A Will Heller false start made third and long even longer, and an incompletion led to the first punt of the game.
  • Everyone's nightmare was that despite how poorly the Rams have looked this season, the Lions would be the team that made them look good.  On St. Louis' first drive of the game, that is exactly what happened.  The Rams absolutely shredded the Lions' defense and didn't even face a third down until the 8th play of the possession.  A false start, unlike in the Lions' case, turned third and short into third and long.  Marc Bulger threw an incompletion that would have ended the drive, but Julian Peterson was flagged for a roughing the passer penalty.  I still haven't seen a replay of the call, but going off of what some of you have said, it was a weak one.  Either way, the Rams picked up a holding penalty on the next play and their drive went absolutely nowhere.  Josh Brown did connect on a 41-yard field goal, giving the Rams an early 3-0 lead.

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  • The Lions had another promising drive going thanks mainly to their ground game but also because of a 15-yard screen pass to Kevin Smith.  That play moved the Lions into St. Louis territory as the opening quarter came to an end.

2nd Quarter

  • The Lions continued to move the ball and made it down to the 12-yard line before this drive came to an interesting end.  It was 3rd and 10 for the Lions, and Matthew Stafford had Aaron Brown open in the middle of the field on a crossing route.  The ball went right through Brown's hands, though, and was picked off by a Rams player.  The disappointment over the turnover quickly faded thanks to a mental error by the Rams player.  He made the interception in the end zone and ran out a few yards before heading back across the goal line.  Kevin Smith brought him down right as he went back into the end zone for a safety, meaning the Lions actually scored 2 points on the play.  It was an odd way to score points, but hey, the Lions now only trailed the Rams by a score of 3-2.
  • Kevin Smith continued his good start by picking up 19 yards on another short pass, moving the Lions close to midfield.  Stafford found Aaron Brown for a gain of 5 on third down to move the Lions into Rams territory.  It looked like they were going to score some points in a more traditional way, but an incompletion on 3rd and 4 led to a Nick Harris punt.
  • The Rams' offense finally got back on the field for the first time in about 11 minutes of game action.  The wait wasn't worth it for St. Louis fans, because the Rams were forced to punt after picking up a couple first downs.
  • Following a Lions three and out, St. Louis had the ball on its 9-yard line with 3:01 left in the half.  Steven Jackson quickly improved that field position with a 26-yard run, giving the Rams a chance to do something before halftime.  Marc Bulger completed his next 4 passes, moving the Rams into Lions territory.  A false start penalty prior to his 4th completion backed St. Louis up a bit, making for what appeared to be a 53-yard field goal attempt after a couple incompletions.  St. Louis originally sent its offense out on 4th and 8 to go for it, but the Rams took a timeout to think about the decision.  In reality, this was all probably an act, with St. Louis trying to make the Lions think that there was actually a decision to think about.  When the field goal unit came onto the field instead of the offense following the timeout, conventional thinking was that they decided to settle for the field goal.  Well, not so much.  The ball was flipped to Josh Brown from the holder, and Brown threw it to a wide-open Daniel Fells, who ran down the field, broke a tackle attempt by Cliff Avril, and went into the end zone for a stunning 36-yard touchdown.
  • The Lions had 54 seconds to put something together before halftime, but they failed to move the ball past their 43-yard line and went into the locker room down 10-2.  It would have been one thing to simply be trailing to St. Louis, but for it to happen the way it did was just completely disheartening.

3rd Quarter

  • There was absolutely no action in the third quarter until about midway through.  Before the Rams started moving the ball, it was nothing but three and outs and punts.
  • The Rams did finally appear to put together a good drive after starting near midfield, and it looked like they were about to essentially put this game out of reach.  That is when Dewayne White stepped it up and made a big play.  On 3rd and 10 at the 17, White deflected Marc Bulger's pass into the air and intercepted it.  Not only did the pick keep St. Louis from adding to its lead, but suddenly the Lions had a wave of momentum.
  • As the third quarter winded down, the Lions moved the ball again mainly on the ground but also with a Matthew Stafford pass every so often.  One of those passes, a 13-yarder to Brandon Pettigrew, closed out the third quarter by moving the Lions down to the St. Louis 41-yard line.

4th Quarter

  • The fourth quarter got off to an amazing start.  On the first play, Matthew Stafford faked a handoff and calmly threw the ball downfield to Bryant Johnson, who made the catch at the 5 in spite of a defensive pass interference penalty.  Two plays later, Stafford stepped up, started scrambling to the right, quickly cut upfield, and leapt into the end zone for a touchdown.  Needing a 2-point conversion to tie the game, the Lions' offense stayed out there and Stafford made another big play.  Dennis Northcutt went in motion and Stafford faked a handoff to him.  Stafford then threw a bullet to Maurice Morris, who made the catch in the end zone to tie the game at 10.
  • I didn't think the Lions could gain any more momentum after what had just happened, but Zack Follett gave them even more by absolutely destroying Danny Amendola on the proceeding kick return.  I mean, he absolutely ran him over and flattened him, sending everyone in Ford Field into a frenzy.  The defense didn't ride that enormous wave of momentum and make a stop immediately, but it did eventually force a punt right after the Rams crossed into Lions territory.
  • The Lions now had a chance to go down the field and take the lead, and with the way Maurice Morris was running the ball, it seemed like that was going to happen.  Morris started the drive with runs of 3, 13, and 15 yards, and life was good for the Lions, or so it seemed.  The next play was really deflating and started to turn the tide of this game a bit.  Morris was dropped for a loss of 7 yards, and the Lions were unable to move the chains as a result.  Nick Harris' punt went out of bounds at the 4-yard line, though, and a penalty on St. Louis backed them up to the 2.
  • The Rams again put together a decent drive before it stalled in Lions territory.  This time their punt was downed at the Detroit 6. 
  • It looked like the Rams were going to be starting their next drive in Detroit territory after the Lions went three and out, but Harris boomed a punt 52 yards.
  • The Lions forced St. Louis to go three and out, but a Louis Delmas pass interference penalty gave the Rams a second chance at scoring the go-ahead points.  It only took two plays for that to happen.  Steven Jackson ran for 17 yards on the first play after the penalty, and he followed that up with a 25-yard touchdown run one play later.  Just like that the Rams took a 17-10 lead, leaving the Lions with only 1:38 to put together a touchdown drive of their own.
  • There not only would be no touchdown drive, but the Lions' last shot at tying the game was a complete failure on every single play.  Stafford threw an incompletion on first down, and a 7-yard pass to Dennis Northcutt was wiped away by offsetting penalties on second down.  A holding penalty on Jon Jansen made it 2nd and 20, and a pair of incompletions made it 4th and 20 from the 10-yard line.  Stafford heaved the ball downfield, but it went nowhere near any Lions receivers and sailed out of bounds to essentially end the game, giving the Rams a 17-10 victory, their first in over a year.

I can't say a whole lot about how certain players or units performed simply because I didn't actually get to watch most of the game, but based on what I heard and simply based on the stats, the following conclusions can be made:

  • The rushing game was solid.  Maurice Morris ran for 63 yards on 14 carries and had some big carries during the game.  Kevin Smith ran for 45 yards on 16 carries, and the reason Morris got so much playing time was because Smith suffered an injury in this game.
  • Calvin Johnson can't return soon enough.  The passing game is lacking because Calvin isn't out there and because other receivers apparently can't catch the ball.  I can't even remember how many times I heard or read the word "drop" on Sunday; it was that bad.
  • The defense did a good job of containing Steven Jackson until the end of the game.  He had a solid day even without those last two runs, but until Jackson's touchdown, the defense had really only given up a field goal.
  • The other touchdown obviously came on a fake field goal, which is just a really crappy way to get scored on.  Not that most didn't already wonder this before Sunday, but what's it going to take for Stan Kwan to get canned? (Required Seinfeld reference: Is he going to have to run on the field during a game in a body suit?)  Fake field goals are going to catch most teams off guard, but even so, there should always be one player ready to combat a fake.  (And don't feed me the crap about how well the Lions' punt coverage was as something Kwan did.  Nick Harris played great and two of his punts bounced out inside the 5.  Unless Kwan ran out there without anyone seeing and knocked those balls out of bounds, explain to me how he had anything to do with a couple lucky bounces.)
  • In general, it's clear that this team has a lot of work to do.  Rather than worry about what teams the Lions could upset the rest of the season, it's obvious that we should first be concerned with the Lions beating the teams they're supposed to.  Of course, the only time they will be favored again is when Cleveland comes to Detroit in a few weeks, but after what happened on Sunday, I honestly don't think this team will win more than 2 or 3 games this year.  Maybe I'm reacting a bit too hard to one bad game, but it was the Rams for crying out loud.  Like many of you have said, if you can't beat St. Louis, who can you beat?

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Thanks Sean for another great write up.

It sounds like the main reason for the Staff bashing was the last series? Especially the last Hail Mary?

by NorthLeft12 on Nov 3, 2009 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

Thats when all the hub-bub took place.

I still don’t think he was good, but as I’ve said many times…this was a team effort and you have to suck at most aspects of the game to lose to the Rams.

by Mushy on Nov 3, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I am truly at a loss on that subject

As many of you already know, I was against drafting Stafford. I was against starting him after we drafted him. However, the kid has come in and shown me that I was wrong. He belongs, and all of the bashing on him after this game completely confuses me. FOR A ROOKIE, coming off of an injury and a three week absence, HE LOOKED DAMN GOOD! He makes Culpepper and Stanton look like HS QBs…..his throws were very accurate (A MAJORITY OF THE TIME). I never said that the guy was the picture of perfection last Sunday. I simply said that he looked good…..and given the circumstances, I feel that he looked very good.

He is continuously improving in different aspects of his position. How ironic is it that I, a staunch advocate of Daunte Culpepper in the preseason and a big anti-Stafford proponent, would now be here defending the kid to everyone else? It makes NO sense!! Why do I do it? Because I WAS WRONG! The kid does not deserve the negative criticism he is getting. He is only one man, and he is surrounded with next to nothing. I certainly hope that Calvin Johnson returns this week, as his return should prove to make a huge difference, not only for Matt Stafford, but also for the rest of the offense.

Seriously…..if all of the drops had not taken place (for the sake of argument let’s say it was only 6 drops), would you guys still be bitching about Stafford if he had gone 20-30 for 242 yards, a TD, and an INT? Would you be bitching and moaning if he had completed 67% of his passes and at least thrown a TD pass? Who’s to say that Northcutt (I thought it was Aaron Brown) would not have scored if he had caught the pass that bounced off his hands for an INT? Who’s to say Stafford wouldn’t have thrown a TD pass on the next play if Northcutt had caught that pass and been stopped short? The bottom line is THE DROPS were NOT his fault! I don’t care what anyone else says…..Stafford looked good in that game, no doubt about it to me.

by KDawg on Nov 3, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad

20 for 33, not 20 for 30……61% completions, not 67%.

by KDawg on Nov 3, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

And I appreciate your defense of Stafford. It has not gone unnoticed.

What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.

by GRLion on Nov 5, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Great job Sean

I liked how we started the game – the running game was working and so were the screens. Penalties hurt (as always) as did dropped passes. Also – Staff to me looked very hesitant to get the ball downfield. I’m not sure why (no faith in receivers??) but I really thought we did a poor job at stretching the field.

As Mushy says above, we sucked in a lot of aspects, plain and simple. We just didn’t play well collectively as a team and I was MOST discouraged we wilted so easily when we had SUCH momentum after the TD and huge Follett hit. Good teams take that and run with it and seal victories. What did we do?? Wilted and let SJax run wild.

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 3, 2009 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

It wasn't that bad.

Everyone makes it seem like the Lion’s totally regressed. But I didn’t get that from this game. Here is why:
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1. Stafford made very good reads. It seemed like he scanned the field pre-snap and knew where his primary target was and where his outlets if in trouble would be. One play in particular, in the first, where Bryant was one on one with the CB, no help from the safety, and Bryant dropped a perfectly thrown, arcing ball. We criticise Stafford for throwing too many bullets, and here was a beautiful lob dropped by our WR. Plus, he made the correct read. WRs dropping key 3rd down passes was a pattern all game. But there was nothing Stafford could do about it.
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2. Everyone keeps saying “the defense played good”. Since our defense sucks, playing good while losing, should not be considered regression. They couldn’t stop Stephen Jackson. But no one can stop Stephen Jackson.
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3. The offensive play calling was boring. For example, where were all the pitch’s from the first games? They seemed moderately effective in helping our RBs get to the outside. It seemed like pretty much every running play was between the tackles. And every passing play was inside of 15 yards. They really needed to stretch the field, horizontally and vertically, but didn’t. This is Linehan’s fault, not our team regressing.
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I did notice that a ton of our passing plays were to RBs. Which makes sense because they actually could catch the ball. Maybe Linehan noticed this and went to them instead. But I would have rather seen Linehan, or Schwartz, or even Stafford go and rip into the WR/TE corp for all their drops.
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4. Penalties killed us. Same as it has been all year. Again, not regression. That one by Peterson though was a bit hard to swallow. Kids playing duck, duck, goose get tapped on the head harder than Peterson did to Bulger. And kids aren’t wearing helmets, nor is the goose being yanked by an offensive linemen when trying to tap the ducks.
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Don’t get me wrong, it was a bad game. Especially at home (though basically in a half filled stadium) and after a bye week. But I’m not calling it regression just yet. It might not have been progression either. Just more of the same.

by UniBallOut on Nov 3, 2009 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

Good summary, UniBallOut

I’m not sure if “regression” is even possible—how do you go backwards from 0-16?

But it sure wasn’t progress.

Stafford did look a lot better than his stats indicate, I agree. He was what—14/33? He would have been 20/33 if not for all the drops.

by n4ry4 on Nov 3, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think they regressed

-I just thought the offence is horrible, If we have rely on CJ to be all our offence with Stafford then were in trouble. I think Staff played great for his 1st game back, and the offence was clicking back in the Bears game 21 1st half points, but only 10 points against the rams is ugly.

- They did run the ball better but once again in was agaisnt a 0-7 team

- Pettigrew is playing way below his talent???

- Same old same old, there 1-6 but I feel we have a better team then the record shows, how many years have we said that!!!!!!

by msivits on Nov 3, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Waste of a pick

No matter how much peeple try to convince me otherwise, Pettigrew was a awful choice for a pick, , not that Fitzsimmons is great, but I see no different if its him, Pett and Heller then Heller, ,Fitz and Gronk. We needed Defensive Lineman always will at this rate

by Beerhero on Nov 3, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Calvin made mistakes as a rookie, too

I’m willing to give Pettigrew a full season to learn and progress, just like Stafford, and just like Calvin when he was a rookie. We can take another look at Staff, ‘Grew, and all the rookies at the end of the year. Rookies progress at different rates. It’s true for QB’s; it’s true for WR’s; it’s also true for TE’s.

What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.

by GRLion on Nov 5, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

+1 on a couple of points

staff looked good…sorry to those that disagree, but his reads were good, he threw it away when needed, checked down when needed…tried the deep ball but it lost lustre with the drops.

someone needed to rip into the wr’s. i would have loved for dom to rip them rather than the fans (although i really like him defending staff to anyone…it says a lot about the oline/qb relationship)

penalities…seriously…when will the zebra’s give the lions a break. i can’t count how many times calls esp ones missed against calvin have not been called.

by londonlion on Nov 3, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank god for a few people that see it my way.....

I was starting to think that I was in the twilight zone here…..lol

by KDawg on Nov 3, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

off topic

but is this a new look for POD or is it just my browser? if it is a new look…i like it!!!

by londonlion on Nov 3, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

great as always Sean

minus the receivers; imo, every other facet looked good from the view i had on my couch. it just simply sucks that the rams beat us…essentially on a fake fg.

rb’s: very solid, good rush average, caught the ball out of the backfield

qb: i agree with kdawg in that as a pro receiver if you get your hands on the ball you have to catch it. those drops, if caught, extend drives, open up more options on the ground, etc. that many drops killed several drives & key plays…not to mention limiting play calling & allowing the defense to key in on the run as that was the only success the offense had

wr’s: horrble…the drops number one, no or very little down field blocking

te’s: decent, made some catches, dropped some too though. solid blocking as expected

oline: quite good…i really think they are on to something w/ jansen at guard, a move that should have happened much earlier based on the fact it was a thought going into the season. minus back to back penalties that jansen had, he played well, the ground game ran behind the left side most of the day

dline: about as good as expected, not enough talent to get pressure from the front four consistently, but solid

lb’s: solid…again, sjack didn’t really run away until into the third/fourth quarter when he will pound it out vs most if not all defenses given the touches…if anything, need more conditioning or rotation to ensure we play the run better through the later stages of games

db’s: best tackling & containment job they have done ytd; far from great vs sjack, but not many db’s will tackle well vs sjack; coverage wise, again the talent deficiencies showed … but did ok. with heavy blitzing, there is usually someone open & bulger is very accurate when he throws

sp teams: did well, get follett playing some lb rotation please, especially to help stop the ground game…the kid could lay out anyone & would love doing it. the fake fg was miserable, after the timeout the should have adjusted to man coverage…

overall, between the fake fg & the blown drives due to dropped passes, that sums up the loss.

by londonlion on Nov 3, 2009 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

Agree

Great post London. Since I am in Utah I was able to watch the game. I was sure we were going to come up with a win, but I ended up disappointed. I did see some good things though:

Stafford – I think he actually played well. I believe that he was a bit rusty, but I love the accuracy and the excitement he brings. They showed him reacting to the Follett special teams tackle and he was pumped up!! I love it when the QB gets excited about his teammates and not just what he has done on the field. Also, the dropped balls were excessive. I have literally never seen this many badly dropped balls in a game in my life. At one point, Staff was about 50% (9 for 18 or so) and at that point in the game he hadn’t thrown a single bad pass. By my estimation, he threw about 3-4 bad passes all game. Granted, the one at the end was bad (you have to at least get the hail mary in play to give your team a chance), but overall I am excited that we have a QB of the future.

I suspect that his receivers are having the same problem that Farve’s receivers always had at first – the ball coming in too hard. They haven’t had that the last few weeks – that is no excuse, but it should be fixable. Not all of his passes were lasers however and he had some nice touch (with a few of those dropped as well). It is sad when your running backs catch the ball better than your receivers.

Running – I thought our run game was looking good, and our running backs (all but Brown) caught the ball really well out of the backfield.

While it was a painful loss, my biggest disappointment was our receiving corps. If we can continue our path of improvement each game, I think we will be happy once Cleveland comes to town (and perhaps in Seattle).

by Lions-fan-SLC on Nov 3, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you LL and Lions-fan-SLC

and the rest of you who see the good in what Stafford did last Sunday.

by KDawg on Nov 3, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

did you see calvins face

he was disgusted…i can only imagine what was going through his head…i bet he begged & pleaded to go and get suited up. i bet he comes in & goes off in his next game for 150& a couple tds

by londonlion on Nov 3, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope so

I thought he would play against the Rams though…..

by KDawg on Nov 3, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i did too

but you could tell how bad he wanted in and off the sidelines…you could almost read his mind…how bad he wanted in to make the difference…great players want the ball…he wants it

by londonlion on Nov 3, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

If you can't beat the rams...

…who can you beat? That is an excellent question.
On paper prior to the game there are a few simple stats that seemed to heavily fall in the Lions favor. Obviously, the games are not played on paper or we wouldn’t be miserably sharing our thoughts on a Lions loss to the Rams. None-the-less, I found these pre-game stats interesting:

Rams Offense vs. Lions Defense
The Rams were averaging 8.5ppg, the Lions defense was giving up 31ppg. One would expect this to meet up somewhere in the middle which would have had the Rams scoring about 20pts.
The Rams were averaging 111ypg on the ground and 166ypg through the air. The Lions defense was giving up 112ypg on the ground and 259ypg through the air. One might expect the ground game to be a push, and that the Rams would have a slightly better than average day passing (212yds).

Lions offense vs. Rams defense
The Lions offense was scoring 17ppg, while the Rams defense was giving up 30ppg. One might have hoped the Lions would split the difference and score 23.
The Lions were averagine 99ypg on the ground, and 194ypg through the air. The Rams, meanwhile, were giving up 136ypg on the ground, and 250ypg through the air. Again, splitting the difference one might hope the Lions would have 118yards rushing and 222yards passing.

Actual Results
The Lions defense, although failing to contain Stephen Jackon, actually performed about as well as could be expected. In fact, I would even argue that considering Bulger was held to a horrific QB rating they actually held their own. Lets be honest, the Lions have done okay against some pretty good running backs so far, but I don’t know anyone who would have expected them to shut down Stephen Jackson all together. They gave up 150yards to Jackson and 212 yards to Bulger, holding that anemic offense to a total of 17pts.
Offensively, however, the Lions typically mediocre offense only mustered 10pts with 2 of those points coming off of a safety. Their rushing game was actually a little better than expected (127yds), but their passing game was statistically aweful (162yds). I’m not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, I’m simply commenting that they were dreadful.
This summary has no real mathematical basis, rather, it really just killed some downtime I had at work. Also, they play these games on the field for a reason. But if ever the Lions had one that looked to be in their favor in just about every way, it was this game and they let this one slip away. So if you can’t beat the Rams…?

by Mushy on Nov 3, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Mushy – we’ve been on the same page since Sunday afternoon.

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 3, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on guys.................

It’s precisely this kind of attitude that I am tired of giving this team. I want WINS not moral victories, are we regressing/moving forward, did Staff play well, how many drops did out WR’s have 6, 7 , 9 , 11, 4 drops?? Did the defense play well for 2.5 quarters, a half, 55 minutes, 1 quarter?? We would have killed the Rams if CJ was there!! If, if, if, if, if………………………….who cares anymore??

I’ve been watching this team since 1977 and all I can say is I am tired of optimism (recall how optimistic we were in 1999, then 2001, then 2003, then 2005, then 2007 and now 2009). We have a 5 year rebuilding plan every 2 years it seems yet there is ONE constant: LOSING

FACE IT:
We didn’t play well on Sunday and we lost. There’s no silver linings between a W and a L in the NFL.

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 3, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Yup

I can’t spin anything positive out of this one either. Maybe, and this is the last shred of optomism coming out in me, a loss that looks as bad to us is really just as embarassing for the players. Maybe, in spite of what coach Schwartz preached to the media, this one really does sting a little more. Maybe they can actually use this type of motivation to go out and beat a team they shouldn’t beat, just to give some other players heartburn. If they can use this as motivation, maybe something positive will actually come from this game?

by Mushy on Nov 3, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see what you're saying

But personally, I don’t see any use out of not looking at things optimistically. If I don’t try to find the postives, which I think there are, I’ll be in a corner crying.

I’m gonna continue to be optimistic because I think there’s things to be optimistic about.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 3, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You can always rely on Hyper staying optimistic

It must be you Aussies personality!! LOL

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 3, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Numb

That’s how I feel, every year the lions hit the point of no return. That’s where we are now, no return. I already see 2010 mock drafts, when you start seeing those you kow your seasons all but over. I’m hoping we win 1 or 2 more games, hoping CJ and Staff really start to build a bond together, hoping some of our D-line starts working together so they don’t have a total rebuild next year, hoping our O-line jells so only were missing is a good LT. I know that’s hoping for alot but the numbness takes most of that away…

by msivits on Nov 3, 2009 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Draft talk after week 8 is something we’ve grown accustomed to as Lions fans.

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by NYCLionsfan on Nov 3, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The rebuilding has already started

That’s what this year is. All of you QUIT YOUR F*****G whining!!!!!

by dylan415 on Nov 3, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

they are who we thought they were

an 0-16 team at the beginning of major nearly every position turnover kind of rebuilding team.

by londonlion on Nov 3, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I think penalties were our biggest problem

Sure, the drops were very bad, but we had crucial penalties that, I think, in the end cost us the game. Not to blame Delmas, but if he doesn’t get called for PI, they are punting the ball in our hands to drive down the field, and who knows, things just might’ve fallen our way.

This is not an excuse, because, we played badly enough to lose, and that is that, but if there has been one constant this season, it’s been penalties.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Nov 3, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions  

Edgerrin James

hawks just cut him i think he would be a good back up nice change up for smith donno who we would cut

Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??

by det32 on Nov 3, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

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