Another Mock Draft
Since the trend of mock drafting for the 2010 NFL Draft has started in 2009 in Detroit, I thought I would post my predictions for next year's draft.
Trade Scenario: Trade Ernie Sims, 2nd round and 5th Round Pick to Gaints for 1st round pick and third round pick.
1st Round, 3rd Pick: Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State: By now, it is pretty clear that Ndamukong Suh won’t be there at the third pick in the draft, so the next best option in the board for the Lions is Okung. A lot of people would consider a defensive tackle like Gerald McCoy, but I believe that his size and speed make him more suitable as a 3-4 defensive end, rather than a defensive tackle in a 4-3 scheme.
1st Round 23rd Pick (From Gaints): Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama: One of the things the Lions have vastly improved on this season in their run defense, and a lot of the credit should go to the linebackers who have played great this season. The next step in the process is getting the run-stopping defensive tackles needed to play Gunther Cunningham’s style of defense. Cody’s size, and strength make him an asset to the team, and should be able to step right into the starting lineup. The lack of speed, endurance and conditioning is a concern, but I think Schwartz, who coached Haynesworth into a pro-bowl caliber player, will fix a lot of the issues with Cody.
3rd round, 2nd Pick: Vladimir Ducasse, OG, Massachusetts: By now, Mike Iupati should be off the draft boards, so we are left to take the next best option, which isn’t really all that bad. Statiscally, Ducasse is only an inch shorter, and somewhat slower (5.32 40 Time compared to 5.25) than Iupati. In 2009, UMass’s offensive line allowed only six sacks, which was good for second in the NCAA. Started at left tackle at UMass, but definitely has the size to move to guard. He might also provide a good safety option in case Gosder Cherilus keeps up his poor play. My major concern with him is the fact that he didn’t play in a major conference, which means he didn’t go up against elite talent. I think that the draft combine will tell us more information about how athletic and strong he really is, and that would help decide whether or not he is legit.
3rd Round, 23rd Pick (from Gaints): Jerry Hughes, Defensive End, Texas Christian: I have only watched one TCU game, and I have to say that this guy looks like the real deal. What I don’t like about most of the ends in this year’s draft is that most of them are sort of unproved in terms of production, but have great athletic skills. Well, Hughes is both athletic and has proven himself this season with 15 sacks. Although, I am not sure whether or not Hughes will be available at this pick, but seeing how there is a lot of depth at the defensive end position is the 2010 draft, I could see him being available in the late third round.
4th Round 2nd Pick: Walter McFadden, CB, Auburn: I think he might be one of my favorite players in the draft. He has decent size for a corner at 6-0, 175 lbs, good speed at 4.40, and he played in the SEC, which means he has gone up against some great offenses. Currently, he is not ranked highly in draft boards, but I think this will change as we get closer to the draft and schools have had their pro-days. Overall, I think he is one of the best all around corners in the draft and would be a steal in the early 4th round.
5th Round Pick: Kyle McCarthy, FS, Notre Dame: McCarthy might not have the physical tools as many other prospects, but he is one of the most instinctive players in this year’s draft. Anyone who has watched a Notre Dame game in the last few years have heard his name called on more than a few occasions, cause he has a pure knack for being around the ball.
6th Round Pick: Kelton Tindal, WR, Newberry: A complete project pick, but has the tools to be a great second wideout considering he is 6-3 with sub 4.30 speed. Of course, he hasn’t played much of any competition at Newberry Collge (Division II South Atlantic Conference), but he is definitely worth taking a shot at in the 6th round.
7th Round Pick: Brandon Minor, RB, Michigan: We got our speed back last year in Aaron Brown, and with this pick we would get our power back. I don’t think I need to explain how good or what Minor can do; I think everyone in the state of Michigan knows he is a good player.
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any thing that has cody in it gets a F
Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??
by det32 on Dec 15, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
ya i have the same concern about him
but he is a dominant two down player, and we have guys like Fluellen and Cohen who do a pretty solid job of pass rushing on 3rd downs
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a 1st round need to be there ever down i would grab him in the 4th or 5th..
we just need to much for a guy like him.. he fits NT 3/4 better any way he would need to lose like 20-30+ with us
Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??
i have him going to the browns in the 3rd actely
and yes i think he will fall that far if not more
Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??
PASS RUSH?!? PASS RUSH!?! Are you kidding me?!?!?
We get zilch interior pass rush. That is our number one issue on the defensive side of the ball.
I recced det32 about Cody. We already have one run stuffer in Hill, a second big immobile guy is the last thing we need. Arthur Jones or Brian Price or Jared Odrick would be much better than Cody.
Jerry Hughes is being projected as a 3-4 OLB. He is smaller than Avril in height and weight. He is also being projected in the late first or early second range.
Ducasse is an interesting pick who would be worth a shot in the third if we can’t get any other Guards by then [ie. Iupati or Johnson or Asamoah].
Last I don’t like the trade of Sims. We end up losing a body in the deal. No thanks. I would rather give Sims another year to get it together.
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i think we should look for a DT later if we cant get Suh. I’m not sure who you have going before Cody but a guy like Joe Haden would be a good fit for Detroit. Otherwise nice draft.
I agree about Haden
He would be a better addition than Cody, but I have him going around 11th to 15th picks
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Listen, I like where you went with the picks...
but you’re now mocking hypothetical trades? I know people like mock drafting and all… it’s loads of fun… but really?
Personally, I would never hope that the Lions give up a player and two draft picks (unless they are seventh rounders) for one mid-to-late first rounder. We need bodies… lots of them. We need that fifth round draft pick. I would rather trade Sims for a third and sixth. See… give up one, get two. Not give up three and get one. We cannot make progress that way.
Now if we are trading up for Suh… different story…. :o)
we gave up three got two back
my trade scenario is trading our 2nd rounder, 5th rounder and sims for 1st round and 3rd round picks, which i think would be the same as if we just traded sims for a 3rd and 5th round pick
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My bad, latif
I didn’t see the third rounder. Okay, so that’s not quite as bad. You’re still down one player and I don’t really like that strategy at this point in our franchise. We need as many players as possible. But…. I wouldn’t be too upset if they took that trade. Not sure Cody is the guy I would make the trade for though…. Gotta remember, it’s all about the return.
I don't like the lower end picks
I am still sticking with my OL, DL and CB draft in 2010 ONLY mode
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my low picks are CB and FS
except 6th and 7th round, and natuarally, I would think you take shot at some guys like I did
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I understand that concept, but I don't think you can do that, NYC
We have more needs than that and I don’t want to see the Lion’s pass a good receiver or safety to reach for a lineman that doesn’t have the same long-term value or value at that particular pick. Wanna trade down to get that lineman or corner… fine. But if BPA is a receiver… take him. We need those too. IMO… one more year of BPA. In 2011 (if there’s still football), we will hopefully be in the position to draft more need-specific.
If we trade Sims..
I would rather it be strictly him for draft picks straight up, say a 3rd or a 4th we still need to just collect more talent. As for the picks, Cody is strictly a 3-4NT, and won’t help our pass rush. I do love the Ducasse pick, but im skeptical if he would be there in the 3rd. I’ve seen him play at UMASS, don’t worry about how he translates he would of been a D1 prospect if he had played more football before college.
actually...
my trade scenario has us getting a 3rd rounder, and moving up 11 picks in return for sims, and a 5th rounder, which is basically the same thing as getting a 3rd and 4th round picks. the reason i picked cody instead of other DTs projected to go in the first round is mainly b/c of this size. go back and look at cunnigham’s defenses in the past, they always have big interior linemen. heck, look at our line right now, its two big guys.
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Here's the Lions selections...
According to Drafttek http://www.drafttek.com/round12010.asp
1 Gerald McCoy DT
2 Joe Haden CB
3 George Selvie DE
4 Jarriel King OT
I love these picks! I doubt Selvie would be there in the 3rd, but I like the template and needs addressed. We’ll have to get a RB and WR in free agency…
Just livin' the dream...
Dont think Haden is gonna be there, but I hope ur right for the lions sake
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Does look strong
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Dec 16, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Haden in 2nd round would be awesome
….but he won’t make it past the 15th pick in the 1st.
Just give me 25 guys on the last year of their contracts; I'll win a pennant every year....Sparky Anderson
I really can't stand it when...
people throw trades that they made up into their mocks. It really makes it hard to take the rest seriously. You have to assume that the other team accepts that trade, which is highly unlikely. If they don’t, then it shoots the entire thing down. Why bother in the first place? Just do a mock based on the actual picks.
So basically what Orwell was saying was, "it's not perfect, but I'll take it."
by Mogwai on Dec 16, 2009 3:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
+1 really good point!
……“then we trade Mulbach to the 49ers for both of their 1st round picks, and draft Suh, Berry, and Okung with our 3 1st rounders. Then we trade Dizon to Denver for a 2nd and 3rd, and pick up Iupati and Selvie. We will be on our way then…that’s definitely what we should do.”
:-)
Just give me 25 guys on the last year of their contracts; I'll win a pennant every year....Sparky Anderson
agreed
if we have a player we think there is a high probability of being traded, then why not have a trade scenario in place. The whole point of “mocking” the draft is to predict what the hell might go down, and trades are imminent in the draft, so why wouldn’t i forecast a trade????
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just a question to all the people above
is it really that big of a deal to “lose a body” when giving up a low pick like a 5th round pick. i understand, we’re the lions, and we need every pick and every player, but isn’t the whole point of the draft to get quality players not young bodies that can simply fill our roster
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This is the point
1st round picks are usually extremely hit or miss, and with the contracts that these guys get, they can be quite a liability. Especially when you can get a player who has the capability to perform at the same level or better than a 1st rounder.
How many people here forgot about the Aaron Curry talk because of the great scouting job our front office did in drafting DeAndre Levy? Sure we could have gotten Rey Maualuga, but we wouldn’t have gotten Delmas.
Just because you draft someone in the first or second round does not automatically make them a success. The draft is 50% hype. You have to be able to draft well deeply. That’s where great teams separate themselves from the rest.
yeah, the Pats operate almost exclusively on obtaining 2nd round picks for the reasons you mention in paragraph 1. But, they know they can develop guys and have a true system for it.
I understand that point
Actually, I’m sort of making the same point as you, Nate. My logic is: if we can give up a fifth or sixth round pick to move up in the earlier rounds such as 1st, 2nd and 3rd, then why not do it. Now, obviously, you don’t want to move up the draft board just for the sake of doing it, but if there is a player that you believe has better potential to work out in the NFL than a fifth rounder and a second rounder combined then why not?
To be honest, I’m not a big fan of picking early in the draft either. I think more often then not, the pick ends up being a bust, and the team is left carrying a bloated contract, but late first round, early (even late) second round pick are awesome because of the low financial responsibility and the level of talent.
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I don't really pay much attention to mocks right now
But I look at which positions are picked when, and that seems ok for this mock, although I’d prefer CB a little higher up.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.

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