MEGA TRADE for MEGATRON!

No offense intended whatsoever, but I’m not sure I want to dignify this with a response.

This makes no sense… were you drunk? lol

especially if we were in the position to get Suh, we already have a huge problem with not having recievers who can make plays. I guess technically we would have essentially 7 starters out of the deal, but for one, we would never get that offer, and two, I just think CJ is the only thing that keeps us an actual NFL team. This kind of move would take 5-6 years to pan out.

Can we at least be a little serious when we post articles here?

Some of this stuff is like ….“and then I found a Genie in a bottle…she was a supermodel with tits…she blew me, gave me unlimited wishes, and sex 10 times a day…”

North…you are a smart guy but let’s just say this is not your best work.

so we get three first round picks (though be it two of them are gonna be very low first rounders), four second round picks, and Vollmer.

This is a trade I would take. People keep talking about building a defense, and what not, this is the type of trade that would be able to do it. of course, i think this trade would also hand the super bowl to the pats for the next 4 years or so, but I would take it.

heres why: we get a franchise left tackle, seven picks in the first two rounds (if drafted properly) + our three picks in the first two rounds in the next two drafts means we can build a defense, and an offense. with the amount of picks, we could go and trade for a replacement for calvin (obviously not as good), but i could see arizona trading boldin or denver trading marshall to us

The Trade

This is what happened in the infamous Herschel Walker trade:

Minnesota Vikings Received

RB Herschel Walker
Dallas’s 3rd round pick – 1990 (54) (Mike Jones)
San Diego’s 5th round pick – 1990 (116) (Reggie Thornton)
Dallas’s 10th round pick – 1990 (249) (Pat Newman)
Dallas’s 3rd round pick – 1991 (68) (Jake Reed)

Dallas Cowboys Received

LB Jesse Solomon
LB David Howard
CB Issiac Holt
RB Darrin Nelson (traded to San Diego after he refused to report to Dallas)
DE Alex Stewart
Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1990 (21) (traded this pick along with pick (81) for pick (17) from Pittsburgh to draft Emmitt Smith)
Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1990 (47) (Alexander Wright)
Minnesota’s 6th round pick in 1990 (158) (traded to New Orleans, who drafted James Williams)
Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional) – (12) (Alvin Harper)
Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional) – (38) (Dixon Edwards)
Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1992 (conditional) – (37) (Darren Woodson)
Minnesota’s 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional) – (71) (traded to New England, who drafted Kevin Turner)
Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1993 (conditional) – (13) (traded to Philadelphia Eagles, and then to the Houston Oilers, who drafted Brad Hopkins)

 Now…..

I am against trading Calvin Johnson for the record…..but it would be awful hard to say no if we were offered 5 good players in positions of need (OL and DL), an extra 1st, 2nd, and 6th rounder in 2010 (plus a 1st and 2nd in 2011, a 2nd and 3rd in 2012, and a 1st in 2013), all for CJ and our 2010 3rd, 5th, and 7th rounder (we have no 10th rounder….lol) and a 3rd rounder in 2011.

In fact, if the deal were sweet enough, meaning the players offered were ones that would make an immediate and substantial impact on the success of our team, I would take the trade. We would have the following draft picks in the upcoming draft, if such a deal were made:

2 picks in round 1
2 picks in round 2
No 3rd rounder (unless we have more than one right now)
1 pick in round 4
No 5th rounder (unless we have more than 1 right now)
2 picks in round 6
No 7th rounder (unless we have more than one right now)

We would still have 7 picks in the draft, and instead of a third and fifth round pick we would have an extra 1st and 2nd round pick…..plus 5 new players. On top of that, we would have all of our picks, minus the 3rd round pick, PLUS an extra 1st and 2nd rounder in 2011, all of our picks PLUS and extra 2nd and 3rd round pick in 2012, and all of our picks and an extra 1st rounder in 2013!!

If we were going to trade Calvin Johnson, I hope that the only way it happens is in a deal like this…..

Otherwise, I say NO DEAL HOWIE!!

Here’s how I would break it down. Look at it as three separate trades to keep it simple

1. Ernie Sims for Sebastian Vollmer – Both guys have a lot of potential, and both guys could be starters, but may or may not be. Sims, because Levy may beat him for the OLB spot, and Vollmer because, while he was a second-round pick and has a lot of potential, we don’t know yet whether he is a long-term Left Tackle. We have time to work with him, though, as he can compete with Jeff Backus and push Gosder Cherilus to be better, and possibly fill in at one of our Guard spots at the very least. So, picking up a promising young lineman would be a good thing.

Bottom line: we’re deep at LB, but thin on the O-Line. YES, this trade would likely benefit the Lions.

2. Ndamukong Suh for 2010 #25, #42, #52, #57 – If we take the BPA at each position, we will get really good value here. Suppose we can get the best Guard at #25 (I like Mike [Iupati]). Having acquired him and Vollmer, we’ve just hopefully rebuilt the left side of our O-Line. Now, we have three second round picks, and if we go BPA defense, we can get a DT (sure, not the upside as Suh, but should be a quality starter and an upgrade at a position of major need), AND two cornerbacks. If we get two cornerbacks each worthy of second round picks, we should have that position squared away for years to come.

Side benefit: With the ridiculous salaries of #2-overall picks, we’re getting way the hell better value with a lower-first and three seconds than with the #2 overall, so it helps our salary cap.

3. Calvin Johnson for 2011 #6, #25, #57 – Having fixed our defense with three picks (instead of just one pick spent on Suh) in the top two rounds in 2010, and having fixed our O-Line by picking the best Guard and acquiring Vollmer, we had a lot more leeway to pick up some skill positions in the 2010 draft from the third round down. Sure, we didn’t get somebody of Calvin Johnson’s talent, but if we spent 5 or 6 picks on the BPA receiver last year, we got some quality guys. We don’t have an elite WR, but the guys we do have are a huge upgrade over the cast-offs and busts playing next to CJ in 2009. Now, we can either take one of the best prospects in the draft at #6 (I’m guessing the Raiders will have pick #6 — seems about right for Oakland), AND we have another first round pick (suppose it’s #25 from the Patriots), AND we have another second-round pick. That’s a lot of talent we can bring in.

As I’ve said before, I don’t like the idea of trading Calvin Johnson. He’s a great player and very valuable to the team. But, if an offer that we simply cannot refuse comes along, then yes, I would take that offer. Seven draft picks in the first two rounds for our best player and one highly-touted (but expensive) #2-overall rookie DT (yes, I know, he looks really really good) is a trade that I would absolutely make.

If a Hershal Walker type of trade was offered for CJ, then hell yeah I’d trade him. Noone is untouchable.

nor do i want it to, half the battle for a franchise turning it aroud is learning your lesson on past mistakes. bite the bullet and rebuild like every other team, we have the right coaches in detroit now, all we need is the talent for them to use. the pats sucked for years, now there a dominate team in the nfl, its all about the people making the decisions. NO to trading our best player. how would you like it if we traded you for 2 rams fans and a conditional browns fan if one of the rams fans didnt pan out?

If that were to happen, I’d probably go for it…luckily, I’m not in that position.

Enough with the trade CJ talk. He ain’t going anywhere. Why trade a valuable weapon for Stafford and one of the best WR in the NFL? They’ll be much better with Calvin than without him.

I am hoping this post was in jest, to ALL of the other posts on this subject. I mean Sean, can we put all of these into ONE post?

Just messin’ with you. I know it was in jest. But you do bring up a good point. When does the un-tradable become tradable? How much is the right amount?

And THAT’S why I won’t trade Calvin. Because I ALREADY HAVE what I want, and there is NOTHING that ANYBODY can offer me that I want more than I want Calvin. By definition, that makes Calvin untradable.