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Night Free Agency Update/Open Thread

Barring any huge news, this will likely be the last update of the day.  I'm sure there will be more to talk about throughout Saturday, but until then, here is the latest:

  • Offensive guard Derrick Dockery, who was in Allen Park to visit the Lions today, has signed with the Washington Redskins.  His deal is worth $26 million over five years.  How the Redskins can keep spending money like this is beyond me.  It sort of seems like the salary cap doesn't apply to them.  In the last 24 hours, they have signed DeAngelo Hall, Albert Haynesworth, and Dockery to deals that are worth $180 million combined.  That is just ridiculous.
  • Contrary to some reports from earlier in the day, wide receiver Nate Washington does not currently have any visits scheduled this weekend.  In fact, according to his agent, he went to his mother's home in Toledo following his visit with the Lions.  The impression I got from his agent's comments to John Niyo is that Washington could be sleeping on the offer the Lions made and a decision could be coming down sometime tomorrow.  Considering no other visits are scheduled and Washington's agent spoke very favorably of the situation in Detroit, I am starting to lean toward expecting the wide receiver to become a Lion tomorrow.  I'm probably getting ahead of myself, but I suddenly have a good feeling about Washington.
  • As mentioned in a FanShot, cornerback Jabari Greer is reportedly going to visit the Lions this weekend.
  • The Eagles have traded cornerback Lito Sheppard to the Jets for a fifth-round pick in 2009 and a conditional pick in 2010.
  • Church of Schwartz posted the first edition of The Lions Congregation.

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Seriously, someone should tell the redskins about the salary cap

I guess they forgot. That or they are going to cut their entire team…

by MatthewDC on Feb 28, 2009 12:34 AM EST reply actions  

We could of got him

The lions should of met that offer and did even better, I feel they let this one slip away very disappointing

by msivits on Feb 28, 2009 6:11 AM EST reply actions  

Me Too....

….I find it hard to believe actually…..Of all the teams that have money to spend the Lions are the only tea, that doesnt seem to be signing anyone, I really did think that with the change in the coaching staff that they would want to clean house and bring guys in like Miami last year. Miami had 28 new players on there roster in 2008 as compared to 2007. Detroit doesnt seem to want to make any changes. cant figure it out.

by BennieBladesFan on Feb 28, 2009 7:21 AM EST up reply actions  

HOGS HAVEN

Check out the transcript of the phone call from Roger Goodell to Dan Snyder on Hogs Haven, the Redskins SB fansite.

by j16941 on Feb 28, 2009 7:47 AM EST reply actions  

It Is Funny However...

…I seriously am pissed that they are allowed to go over the cap. its unreal to me.

by BennieBladesFan on Feb 28, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Any team...

…can go over the cap if I am correct. They just have to pay a luxury tax, similar to the NBA. For every dollar they have committed over the cap they pay the league that same amount at the end of the fiscal year and it is then divided by 31 and distributed to the other teams.

by TonyDC on Feb 28, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Still....

…..NFL is turning in MLB and its disturbing…..Its ok though becasue they overpaid for haynesworth. he got his contract and he wont put up half the numbers he did in TYen the last two years.

by BennieBladesFan on Feb 28, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Has it ever worked out for the Redskins...

in the past? Snyder has done this time and time again and has never fielded a championship. Teams are not built through other team’s leftovers. They are built in the draft. Now… that’s not to say that I wouldn’t mind seeing the Lions fill a few holes…. I would. I actually would have liked to see them go after one or two top rated guys. But the moral of the story is that these moves don’t guarantee the Redskins will win next year. They are not a team that is simply a player or two away. In fact, they signed two potential headcases in Haynesworth and Hall that amounted to $156MM. That could be a BIG mistake. Time will tell.

by DrewsLions on Feb 28, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.....

…I just thought that with some of the even borderline free agents that the lions were going to overhaul with at least 6 to 8 free agents. i also thought they would trade guys like Backus and Raoila for some late round picks. That would give them about 10 or 11 picks when compensatory picks come out. 20 new guys would be nice. Guess im jus ta little frustrated. However I do believe in Mayhew and I always have since they gave him the job.

by BennieBladesFan on Feb 28, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel ya man...

Just don’t get too frustrated yet. It’s only the dawning of day two. I think that they will end up signing 5-7 guys in free agency. They just won’t be the Haynesworth types. This team needs help top to bottom, so depth players are just as important. Look at the Mo Morris pickup (which I thought was great). If Smith goes down in training camp, we’ve got a guy who started for Seattle for quite a few games last year and averaged over 4 yds-per-carry. Depth is very important and the Lions will fill gaps in free agency and target the future in the draft.

by DrewsLions on Feb 28, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I Totally Agree....

…I dont want them to sign high priced free agents….Just find a few starters and some depth. The frustrating part is the lack of rumors even being mentioned with Lions. I dont expect them to sign everyone but there name isnt even floating much out there. Especially since I figured they wanted to clean house. I think they could have given up a 5th round pick for Lito Sheppard. Den and TB cleared money to get better…..Detroit is well under….make some mopves guys. GO LIONS!!!

by BennieBladesFan on Feb 28, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Lito Sheppard

For a fith round and a conditional pick! Come on Lions that was a good deal, and one of our biggest needs……See this look on my face Mayhew it is called “disappointment.”

by pleaselionswinasuperbowlbeforeidie on Feb 28, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

I agree...

but we don’t know that we didn’t try. The trick here is to get the players to actually COME to Detroit. For all we know, they made a better offer, but Sheppard could have nixed the whole thing like Lucas did. They’ll get a corner. They know how important it is to get one before the draft. Shawn Springs was just cut… I know he has injury issues, but he could be a cheap pick-up to get us through 2009. There are lots of serviceable guys left. Remember, build through the draft… fill a hole here and there with leftovers.

by DrewsLions on Feb 28, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Love what Denver is doing...

….Signing mid cap free agents….just signed Reid DT from Colts. thats 4 signings….this is what I thought Lions would be doing…..Anyone else think this???

by BennieBladesFan on Feb 28, 2009 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

Denver Signs Davis...

….Andrea Davis is a good Lb….Thats 5 changes at low costs for Denver….Love what they are doing….they are making the moves detroit needs to make….5 Signings!!! Good for Denver.

by BennieBladesFan on Feb 28, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

The Lions should be going after mid cap FA. They are moving too slow. We can spend some $$$ or picks, get better now. I want to see more moves by us. Guys are signing with other teams very fast. No time to waste.

by proud to bleed light blue on Feb 28, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

Any word...

on Bryant McFadden? Has he scheduled a visit?

by wumanchu01 on Feb 28, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

Cassel Traded

To the chiefs according to NFL.com

by wumanchu01 on Feb 28, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

This could shake up the draft quite a bit. Could Sanchez fall to 20 now? If the niners pass on a QB I only see one team drafting ahead of Detroit at 20 (the Jets) that really need a QB.

by wumanchu01 on Feb 28, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Think about this

If the niners would make a move on a QB we could really see Stafford or Sanchez fall, Let’s say our 1st pick isn’t a QB and niners pass on both we could be in a spot to trade up and get either one… Might be a reach but i’ve heard of worse…

by msivits on Feb 28, 2009 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

That'd be ideal

If the niners pass, they might not even have to trade up. Can you see anyone other than the Jets taking a QB ahead of the Lions at 20?

by wumanchu01 on Feb 28, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you really risk that, though?

You just can’t bank on a guy falling. If it happens, then great. But you can’t pass someone hoping someone else will fall.

by DrewsLions on Feb 28, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't bank on it

Just saying it’d be an ideal scenario. Personally I wouldn’t mind packaging the 20 and the dallas 3rd rounder to move up to 16, ahead of tampa and NYJ, and snag stafford or sanchez.

by wumanchu01 on Feb 28, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't find confirmation

But I just heard Tom Curren on NFL network say that the Chiefs only gave up their 2nd rd pick (34 overall) to get Cassel AND Vrabel. WTF. That’s a friggin STEAL.

by wumanchu01 on Feb 28, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

There's no way to know for sure

But the fact is that there is a year’s worth of NFL level film on him. At least we know that he can be successful given the right circumstances. A 2nd round pick for a known commodity like that? I think that’s quite a steal.

by wumanchu01 on Feb 28, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

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