Poll: Who Should Be the Top Overall Pick?
We're almost a month away from the 2009 NFL Draft, and the Lions' plans for the event are still pretty foggy. Free agency did clear quite a few things up, but there are still plenty of different scenarios in regards to the top overall pick and the first-round in general. With that in mind, I figured it was time to take a poll to see who you guys think should be the top overall pick. Part of this is just to gauge the opinion of the fan base with a month left until draft day, and part of it is to give me an idea of who I should select with the top pick of the 2009 SB Nation Mock Draft.
The '09 edition of the SB Nation Mock Draft will get started next week, so it's time to start closing in on making a decision about who should be picked when the Lions go on the clock to open the event. I am leaning towards a certain player, but I want to see what all of you think before actually making the pick. Below you can find the different choices and leave your vote as to who you think should be taken with the top pick of the draft. Also, don't forget to leave a comment sharing your opinion to give myself and others a better idea of the thinking behind your vote.
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Curry #1
My opinion go ahead and make your LB core a definate strength. I think if they take a LT he would be put at LG for a year anyway and then be moved to LT. And Stafford is potentially good QB but not worth #1 money. And I don’t think we can trade the #1 pick. Raji is also not worth the #1 pick. Take the definate starter and work form there. as always just me 2 cents.
by shanndiggit on Mar 20, 2009 5:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is pretty much how I feel
I know LB’s don’t go first, but I keep getting this feeling that Curry is going to redefine his position. It would kill me to see that happen somewhere other than Detroit. If Detroit chooses to go with an OT, I’m not going to be upset, but I really feel that Detroit needs to go with defense first. As far as LB’s are concerned, there’s Curry, then there’s everyone else. Yes there will be good options at #20 for LB, but players like Curry don’t come along that often. There are solid players to fill the O-line throughout the first couple rounds and I find myself wondering if Jeff Backus’ level of play would improve next to Duke Robinson or Herman Johnson.
The bottom line is, I want Curry but an OT would be O.K. Even Raji wouldn’t upset me but I think he’s a reach. But, to repeat something I’ve said in previous posts, I don’t want no Stinkin’ Stafford. He’ll be “Joey-Blue-Skies” all over again.
by James L on Mar 20, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monroe
I chose Monroe. Curry would be nice but it seems highly unlikely since the Peterson trade. So, that leaves the two top tackles and Stafford. I see Monroe being a high quality LT for at least 10 years. I’m not saying he’s going to the 7+ pro-bowls but I think he will be a definite bookend.
Smith on the other hand is a bit of a worry for me. He has the talent and potential but I’m just worried that he might be just a little too much of a bust chance. More than Monroe anyway.
Stafford is hard for me to judge. He looks great and the thought of getting a possible franchise QB for this team is very appealing, but I’m worried about his experience and our ability to groom him.
Raji is just a bit too much of a reach at #1.
Chance of each player being picked first- Stafford 40, Monroe 15, Smith 30, Curry 10, Raji 5%
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 20, 2009 5:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is easily, without question, the most important draft in Lions history. As I’ve said before here, while it might be nice to swing for the fences and hope you get that home run (Stafford), you need to take the safe, 100% sure pick every time here. We can’t have any busts out of this draft, especially at #1. We HAVE to get a definite base hit here.
So I’m going with Monroe, who many thing is the safest pick in this draft. I’d also be fine with Jason Smith. Either way, we’re getting a pretty safe pick, we’re filling a definite position of need, moving Backus to the inside allows this draft pick to improve two spots on the most integral part of the offense, and we’re going to take a massive step to help out whoever plays QB for the next several years.
Take the safe picks this draft, fill as many positions with quality guys as you can, and then in a year or two, you can start swinging for the fences again. In the meantime, immediate, consistent help is what this team needs. Give it to them.
by IAmJoe on Mar 20, 2009 6:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Smith
If we had one pick in the draft, I would want it to be Aaron Curry.
But since we pick again at #20 and immediately in round 2 at #33, my reasoning behind Jason Smith over Curry was this…
The difference between Aaron Curry and the next-tier MLB we could get (Laurenaitis, possibly Maualuga) is not as big as the difference between Jason Smith and the second-tier of OT’s.
Plus, I wouldn’t move Backus to Guard (which is an iffy experiment) to accommodate anybody except an elite LT who will clearly be a better LT than he is.
We already have a much-upgraded LB corps with Sims and Peterson on the outside. We can get by with a good MLB instead of a great MLB if it means seriously upgrading our O-Line.
by n4ry4 on Mar 20, 2009 8:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason Smith I agree
One of the best OT avalible which we need badly! 50 plus sacks over the past 3 years and the worst defense. Being logical we should then go defense or should this not be acceptible we can go all defense through out the draft if you wish starting with Raji or Curry.
A quarterback who is not accurate is of no value and we have seen the lions do this before, great arm and spin but they could not make the plays. Why would we not follow what good teams have done in the past. History tells us that you fix the lines first, so you can stay in games. The top quarterbacks come out next year and they are more accurate.
by p911 on Mar 20, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Lions MUST take a franchise QB
There is no way around it. The Lions MUST get this position covered. They may not see the benefits next year, but 3 years from now they will be happy they made this choice.
by TitanRob on Mar 20, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing kills your franchise like a QB bust
I don’t want to take a junior QB (red flag) with a questionable completion % (red flag).
Take one of the best players in the draft—Curry, J.Smith, or possibly Monroe. Don’t take a questionable QB just because he’s a QB.
Jim Schwartz said it best (emphasis added):
I’ve said before, we want to make sure we get the right person there, not necessarily lock into a particular position. The mistakes I’ve seen made in the NFL are ‘Hey, we have to draft a running back here,’ Or ’We have to draft an offensive line or a quarterback.
by n4ry4 on Mar 20, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Culpepper was very good in this league and he's back in shape.
He can play as good as joe flacco even coming out of retirement and they went to the playoffs based on their Defense. Our defense was dead last in just about every category. QB is not a MUST.
Big Ben is a mediocre QB on a team without Steelers D. But he won a superbowl because the D is a monster.
We were down by 20 points in the 1st QTR in like 5 games this year. Thats how you lose games. A QB doesn’t help that any. We still managed to put up points.
by MatthewDC on Mar 20, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
#1
There is no way the lions can take a LB first. That amount of money to pay him is not worth a LB. I still say Stafford. He shows alot of upside promise. If not then the OT is their next choice. But it is very clear that Stafford is to be the choice.
by proud to bleed light blue on Mar 20, 2009 8:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Players still get paid commensurate with their position
Matt Ryan at #3 got a bigger-money contract than Jake Long at #1 because Ryan was a QB.
If we took Curry, he’d be paid like a linebacker. A very highly-paid linebacker, but he probably wouldn’t get as high a salary as previous draft picks.
Curry is probably the best player in the draft. He’s the real deal. Jason Smith too. There aren’t major lingering questions with them like there are with Stafford. I’d much rather have Curry than Matt Stafford. Stafford busting would set us back another 3 years.
by n4ry4 on Mar 20, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry Should....
…..be the top pick becasue hes the safest pick….We can get a oline man with 1st pick in 2nd round…..The oline is deep in this draft….The linebacker corps is not…..GO LIONS!!!…..GO MICHIGAN STATE!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 20, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Defense
I prefer Curry as the first pick, but if the Lions feel that there is a bigger need on the defensive side of the ball and the money value is there…then that is who they should pick. With the Lions defense as pathetic as it was last year, that is where I think they need to spend their first draft pick. Since they now have legitimate strong side and weak side LB’s, why not have someone in the middle who can do the job? I am sure they can pick up good offensive/defensive tackles later in the draft. They need to strengthen their
D and the best person in the draft to do that is Curry!!
by ftblphan on Mar 20, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I agree whole-heartedly with Curry being number 1. I state that qb…. is not as great as it can be and therefor i know the Lions will do there do diligence on Stafford. But COME ON… our defense has been rated dead last or close to it the last couple years. All the mock drafts by the “experts” have us getting stafford and an offensive tackle with 2nd first round pick. These experts dont know this team like us fans and in order of getting the first pick, id put Curry 1, Monroe 2, Smith 3, and Stafford 4. Those are the only people other than potentially Raji but thats a stretch. Id rather take the safest pick in Curry or Monroe than any other selection with that first pick.
by Liontotheextreme on Mar 20, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry 1st
We might not be able to trade the pick, but we could use him or trade him to add more pieces to the puzzle!!!
by BoyWonder on Mar 20, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some good points
There’s a desperated need 4 a solid OL, allBit they had 1 of if not the worst D’s in the NFL. They had serious issues against the run & dump off pass, well all over but…w/ another LB it addresses any # of problems, ES won’t have 2 make every play, which it seemed like it was either he made they play, or no 1 did, not good. But, if U look @ the stats Lenon had a pretty good amount of Tackles & I think we can all surmize the Dizon @ MLB didn’t work…idt JS feels all warm & fuzzy about it either. It’s a tough call, I like Curry, but there’s sertainly a strong arguement 4 an OL. I guess thats why they make the big bucks & we’re merely spectators. I tend 2 agree w/ the guy who said theres stronger LB prospects behind Curry & they should go the Parcell’s route, it seemed 2 b a cornerstone move that turned a team that was almost as bad as the Lion’s n2 a much improved competitive team. tough call…
by LTownDown on Mar 20, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I Think KC wants...
….Curry and I believe we could trade down and get the 3 and get KC 4rd pick this year and next year….Id take that…..Then we could take a number of guys.
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 20, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
opps....
…that should be KC 3rd rounder this and next
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 20, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
about KC
I know if we draft Curry that they will be PISSED off lol. The thing is they dont need a qb, oline, not so much of a reach with Raji but thats all they got. I know they are one of the few teams that hasnt denied that they love Curry and want him. Its an option with a trade down and also anyone past 4 that wants one of the best 2 olinemen
by Liontotheextreme on Mar 20, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i picked Monroe...
because we can still get Road Warrior “Animal Jr.” , or a C Matthews to play their natural MLB positionn at #20.
by JCruize on Mar 20, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreement to move forward
I have always been, and will always be, a detroit lions fan. We who say this have struggled through so much. However I really would like to push the point that n4ry4 brought up. If we draft a QB number one overall, and it doesn’t pan out, like so many other first round picks made by the Lions, it will only set us even further back.
While I too love good LB’s, I truly believe that good football teams win the up-front battles. You MUST have a Oline, and a Dline. I would hope they consider J.Smith as their first pick. Having said that, I would trade anyone, minus Calvin Johnson, to see Cutler dawn a Lions uniform.
Bottom line, as long as they don’t take another wide receiver with their first pick, I think they will be alright.
by superbowlbound on Mar 20, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I picked Raji for #1, a no-brainer for me
he will collapse the pocket and take on multiple blockers, improving the pass rush immensely by freeing up Avril and White to go 1-on-1. Avril and White will each get double-digit sacks with Raji in the middle, guaranteed. He will stuff the run and take up multiple blockers, freeing up the linebackers from blockers to make plays. Why was Spielman/Boyd and Porcher so good? Because they had Jerry Ball/James Jones at DT. I can live with Curry at #1, but I think a combo of Raji and ReyMa/Lauranitus/other MLB will be much tougher than Curry and a different DT, IMHO. Go ahead and slag me, IRDGAFF
by JazzyBBP on Mar 20, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Raji too
But I think the Lions would have to trade down to #3 or #4. To draft him. I choose Monroe in this scenerio, ’cus the Lions still have the #1 pick. I would love the idea of Raji and Lauranitus in the first round. Throw Dizon at SS. And the Defense could be good.
by JCruize on Mar 20, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spielman was fn awesome
Spielman was fn good, so was JB & RP, there whole Dl was sick back then, we gotta get back there, Spielman had 154, when they let him go 2 FA, 4 me that marked the begining of this current trend by Millen & hid predacessors. What about Hood #20 or 33, I think they gotta go OL somewhere n there 2. idk I get the feeling this Lydon Murtha could b decent, mayb even on the inside, 6’7" 315, real smart 2, & I believe owns the fastest 40 of OL & some other drills. Mayb 3rd/4th round…
by LTownDown on Mar 20, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pat Swilling
is my cousin. He played for the Lions back in the day too with Spielman.
by Quez81 on Mar 21, 2009 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am tired of all the bandwagons.
This pre-draft month has been insane. First everyone wanted Michael Oher because he was the “safest pick in the draft”. Then they wanted Andre Smith because he was the “safest pick in the draft”, now jason smith or eugene monroe is the safest pick depending on who you listen to on TV.
Look, that just proves to me that there is no definite #1 among the LT’s. Andre smith is the best talent among LT’s, so why would we spend the #1 pick on a tackle that we can all pretty much say, isn’t the best talent at the position.
Curry is the best LB by FAR in this draft. Raji is the best DT by FAR in this draft. DT is a bigger need than LB. Our LB looks good with peterson, yes we are weak at MLB, but our starting DT is a 36 year old. I think we can steal Laurinaitis later on anyways so I chose Raji.
Raji is a beast, is the best player at a high need position available, he isn’t switching positions, he isnt the 3rd best at his position being touted as the best because the best has character issues, he IS THE BEST at his position in the draft period and it is a position of HIGH NEED now with redding and big baby gone.
by MatthewDC on Mar 20, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Part of my reasoning is that I see Peria Jerry creeping up draft boards...
I have seen him as high as #12 on some peoples boards that have been updated in the last 2-3 days. Laurinaitis however is available at #20 on almost every board, and #33 on some.
by MatthewDC on Mar 20, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andre Smith
I never seen Andre Smith seen as the best tackle consistently throughout any draft websites I went to. Monroe was atop for a long time and only when the combine hit did J.Smith go up and A.Smith go down. Plus, I susupect that Andre will make a much better RT then he would LT.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 20, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andre Smith was the consensus #1 OT for weeks before the combine
It happened when Michael Oher dropped off. Eugene Monroe and Jason Smith were 3rd and 4th on the list at the time. Andre Smith was actually projected #1 overall on some draft boards for that period of time.
by MatthewDC on Mar 20, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I seen
I go to 3 major draft sites and at no point did they have Andre Smith rated as the top tackle. So, obviously, it wasn’t a consensus.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 20, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scout.com had him as the top OT previously
Walter Football did, as well as the majority of FFtoolbox.
Maybe your just not thinking back to the same period of time.
I goto about 30-35 different drafts randomly to read for fun. Only 4 or 5 had him going to detroit #1 , but all but maybe 5 had him as the top OT and the only ones that didn’t were because they hadn’t dropped Michael Oher yet.
Why do you think NFL network on their combine coverage was saying when your projected to possibly be the #1 pick you just don’t do things like this. That’s why they were talking about him losing 20 million overnight.
Many people on this site were praying that Detroit would take Andre Smith #1 and he might have even won a poll here at one point. That was all before the combine fiasco though.
by MatthewDC on Mar 20, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allright
I may have minsunderstood. There’s no doubt that Andre was highly touted before the combine but I suppose when you said consensus I just assumed you meant consensus like Curry is considered consensus top LB. I just never thought that Andre was considered such, especially with Monroe.
Also, I was mainly going off Draft Countdown, which is the main site apart from this one that I follow. Scott Wright never had him top on his rankings.
Anyway, I’d take a look at him if he was still there at #33. Someone of his talent can be of use.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 20, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Monroe
Although our biggest need is defence, and Raji is potentially the biggest difference maker for this team. The drop off from Raji to the next best DT seems very large.
I like Curry a lot, but I don’t like the idea of putting him in the middle, when he is an ideal outside LB. We can pick up some good [and big] MLBs in the third round.
So, unless we can drop down out of #1[not going to happen] I think the best course of action is to take Monroe to solidify our O line for a number of years.
Although I suspect that Mayhew and company are going to take Stafford.
by NorthLeft12 on Mar 20, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Lions can't draft down
I’d still take Raji #1. No DT has ever been taken that high, but there has to be a first time for everything. There’s no rule saying #1 MUST be a LT, QB or DE. Raji has been listed as a top 5 prospect in every ranking list I’ve seen. If he is top 5, he can’t be much of a reach at #1. I really think he will make the most immediate impact for this team
by JazzyBBP on Mar 20, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Curry is 6’2, 250!! how big of a LB you talking? He got Ray Lewis written all over him.
by Quez81 on Mar 20, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya he's a monster
I think mayB even could step n2 Spielman’s shoes, but then again, he hasn’t played a down in the NFL, but he looks like he’ll b a good LB. I hope they don’t waste the pick on a QB, I think they can get 1 later on Pat Smith or Freeman…so many holes 2 fill…
by LTownDown on Mar 20, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
curry is the safest pick and would love to add him to the core,but well see the lions have done good thus far and well see what they do in the draft ,but if not curry then go stafford,and OT at 20 this years pretty deep in that position and DT at 33, but curry would be my first pick then go to FA and get a backup QB for cheap money,cause games are won on defense and especially we all know lost in the 4th qtr on defense for us so if we decide to strengthen the defense im all for it plus our LB core would rival any in the NFL
with curry sims and peterson doesnt that just sound good wooohooo!!!GO LIONS!!!!!
by WAYNIEMAN on Mar 20, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
quartback wins games
they need a qb plain and simple, culpepper is terrible, why do you think nobody wanted him except detroit? look at every good team, they all have one thing in common-good qb. detroit needs alot, but they need a signal caller first. maybe trade their 1st pick for cutler? still have another in the 1st rd. and then they will have proven qb instead of a rookie. anyway, they will blow their picks like always and pick a bad player. until they quit hiring asst. coaches and get a former head coach, they’ll continue to be laughingstocks and the worst franchise in all of sports.
by bullit1966 on Mar 20, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats not true
Of the playoff teams last year, 5 of them have a mediocre or worse QB.
Steelers, Ravens, Vikings, Titans, Miami all have average QBs. The only QB on that list I would take over Peppy is Big Ben, but they aren’t even really that different.
Remember Culpepper got ripped off the couch and thrown into a game on a new team in like 4 days flat. He had no time to learn the book, he was overweight, and he wasn’t ready. All of the teams above proved that with a good defense and running game, you can goto the playoffs with an average QB. Culpepper is Average.
Are you saying that the Steelers and the Cards went to the superbowl because they had Warner and Ben? Because I can tell you right now Warner is overated, he simply has 2 pro bowl WR’s. The steelers don’t put up points, they win on their defense plain and simple.
The teams with the best QB’s, Colts, Eagles, Chargers, didn’t make it to the superbowl.
by MatthewDC on Mar 20, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Ben
Is a top 5 qb in this league, its a travesty you included him in that group.
2 Superbowls, the first of which he played pretty terrible in, the second of which he won with a pretty amazing drive.
The guy wins games (I know he has a great defense but he still put up points when necessary).
Its a funny story actually.
by Wad on Mar 20, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is not top 5 QB.
Top 5 are people like :
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Phillip Rivers
Carson Palmer (altho lately he’s been slacking)
Jay Cutler
Skill wise, he’s not even in the same league as those guys as a QB. He just happened to goto the best overall team of all of the recent young QB’s.
by MatthewDC on Mar 20, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, the defense scored as many points in the Superbowl as Ben
Just saying…. Actually if you include extra points, the kicker outscored him and the defense matched him…
by MatthewDC on Mar 20, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way I see it, there are 3 major types of successful teams. Teams who rely on the good QB to win them games, teams that rely on their above average run game and/or receivers and teams that rely on their superior defence.
Out of those 3 choices we are the closest to option 2.
The first option is hard to do since teams have been trying to get themselves a top-notch franchise QB for decades. They do turn up but not as often as you’d might think. The chances of Stafford or even next years crop being such is somewhat unlikely. Although, it would be great if Stafford became a top-notch QB because I suspect that’s who we are picking come draft day.
The second and most likely option is possible because we have Calvin, who is already a top 5 receiver and we have Kevin Smith, a young, potential great RB. The other pieces, #2 WR, TE and O-line are easier to build then picking up a top QB so we could potentially manage such a thing.
The third option is a superior defence which can also be managed but it takes years of lucky drafts and development to pull off. While it is not necessary to have all three levels to be great, it does help. Currently, our team has none, even though it will only take a solid MLB to make our LB corp a good if not great one. Our D-Line and DB’s need work and hopefully that wil come with our next few drafts.
Personally, I would like option 1 or 3, but 2 seems the most likely.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 20, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry...
Mainly because I think he is the best defensive player in the draft. Im not worried about the position switch, because if they think (and he thinks) that he can play the Mike, then who the hell am I to argue.
by bfat on Mar 20, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
O-Line... Smith
Mediocre QB’s get the job done, because the O-line gives them the chance and TIME to make decisions, good decisions. Having to scramble and dump pass every other down, does not constitute an offense. Even if Dante can be half the QB he used to be in the past, he’ll be nothing but injured if they don’t shore up the O-line. Imagine what K. Smith and Calvin could do, if the ops defense couldn’t just focus on them. They both still make the plays, but without production by others, they are all we have. This draft is deep with defensive players, and no ONE player can turn around this franchise. With #‘s 20 and 33, we take DEF. Peterson is going to solidify the Linebackers. But what we really need, is no ego’s, play for pride, play to win. They gave up week 5 after the bye. I’ve been watching them for 30+ years, and last year was the worst, because before, they at least tried.
This draft should be the beginning. FIND the cornerstone, and build from there. Curry, Smith, Monroe, Raji……..they are all good, maybe may be great, but by themselves, they are one player. We have at least 2-3 years before we compete. But they could at least win 5.
by Longtime Lions fan on Mar 20, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't matter how good your offense is when your down 20-0
in the 1st QTR. Every Week. Always.
I was on the live posts for all the games where we were sitting there like, here we go again.
Defense. Scoring the 20 points a game we do now is fine. Unless of course you give up 20 in the 1st Qtr.
by MatthewDC on Mar 20, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was not suggesting we don’t draft Defensive players…so you are telling me, if we draft say Curry, we stop giving up 20 in the first QTR? I mean no disrespect, But, when a team is up 21-0 after the first QTR, they relax on DEF a little…no one player is going to fix all the problems we have. But if we go DEF, so yeah, we stop them from gaining a big lead. But see the whole picture. Teams Play harder, when it’s close. We won’t score 20 a game unless Hanson kicks 7 field goals. I have season tickets, there every game.
Realize, as I understand, I’ll never see your point, and you won’t see mine. This blog is filled with arm-chair Qb’s, lol. But I bleed Detroit Sports, I follow all Mich Teams. I just want too see us respectable.
by Longtime Lions fan on Mar 20, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Curry
We should take the best player of the draft rather than position. MLB is a position Curry can play. I label him as the next Ray Lewis. Who in their right mind would pass up on a young Ray Lewis? My bad, Millen would. :)
by Quez81 on Mar 21, 2009 6:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need a franchise Quarterback
Every great NFL team has a good QB, and we have two in Culpepper and Stanton, who by the way, has almost identical stats in his last college year to the BUST known as…stafford.
And every great NFL team has a good NFL qb because they have a great NFL defense!!! You QB draft supporters are narrow sighted.
Lets get Mr. Cutler out of Denver.
by BIGWalt2990 on Mar 21, 2009 8:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
QB not top priority
First of all, what happened to giving Stanton a shot? Other than that we need to do some trade talks to Denver for Cutler, he is established and had one hell of a season last year. And we still have Culpepper and Stanton. What we need from this draft is an Offensive Line or Defense. Cutler is someone you can build a franchise over and that is what the Lions are trying to do is rebuild a franchise that is Horrid.
by liljeff6d9 on Mar 21, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
um...
you start off saying QB is not our top priorty but then you talk about getting cutler? How you think we gonna get him without giving up picks?
by shanndiggit on Mar 21, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait wait wait.
You guys actually feel like Curry is worth #1?! O_o;
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Mar 21, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Then tell us who is number 1 frog
Tell us who will be the most productive player out of this draft… Cause I know it’s gonna be Curry and most sane people are on my side.
by BIGWalt2990 on Mar 21, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stafford. Crabtree. For an offensive line as bad as Detroit's, a tackle.
When you’re drafting a linebacker in the top 5, you better be getting something near Lawrence Taylor talent. If you’re drafting a linebacker #1 overall, you damn better be sure you’re getting the next Lawrence Taylor. Is Curry that player? I’d bet on ‘no’. For one, he was considered around a 3rd round pick at best had he came out last season. He does everything above average, but nothing spectacular. James Lauranaitis is the best LB in this draft at coverage, Rey Maualuga at run-stopping, Clint Sintim at pass-rushing.
That also ignores the fact that you’re moving him from OLB to MLB. It’s not a seamless transition and with someone spectacular like Julian Peterson and someone fairly good with the chance to get even better in Ernie Sims, do the Lions really need to spend the #1 pick of the draft on an MLB? I could be wrong and Curry might make a decent MLB, but he’d be no Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, or even Patrick Willis. That, in my view, would be a tremendous waste.
Also, how much value to you place on linebackers to make or break a defense? An example is Seattle. For around 3 seasons now they’ve had arguably the best 4-3 LB corps. with huge money invested in excellent linebackers withJulian Peterson, Lofa Tatupu, and Leroy Hill. Did that get their defense anywhere? No, because they never had a decent d-line to take advantage of it. Curry might net you an elite LB crew, but that will only get you so far, especially with an extremely poor defensive line.
Stafford could be the face of your franchise and make you set at the most important position for a good decade. You could draft a decent offensive tackle like Michael Oher, William Beatty, or Eben Britton to protect him, or alternately sit him for a season to get a grasp of the nuances from Daunte Culpepper, a la Carson Palmer and Jon Kitna while you build up the offensive line. Or, grab the highest rated tackle off the board who might become the next Joe Thomas or Jake Long and take advantage of next draft’s deeper QB class. Crabtree might be the best player in this draft but of course with Megatron you’ve no need for him.
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by Fearless Frog on Mar 21, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Furthermore, linebackers are not particularly hard to find in the later rounds of the draft.
Lofa Tatupu, London Fletcher-Baker, Barrett Ruud, Bart Scott, and Zach Thomas are all top-flight MLBs who weren’t first round picks.
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by Fearless Frog on Mar 21, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I pretty much agree
I think your correct on most points. Now that we’ve acquired Peterson I just don’t think there is value with Curry at #1. Players like Maualuga, JL & even McRath, Ellerbe or McKillop are possible great players and their value is much better.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 21, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hairless Frog!!!!!!
Take a deep breath, back away from the computer, and wait for puberty. Unlike your fantasy girl, Curry is the top dog in the draft. Find something else to do, because you sure don’t know what you’re talking about! Go back to porn, man, until about November. Then rub your fat girlfriend if you’ve found one by then.
by dylan415 on Mar 21, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by Fearless Frog on Mar 22, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, but
First of all this draft doesn’t have any Lawrence Taylor like players, or any elite caliber college talent. Second, of course he was a projected 3rd rounder in his junior season, if Stafford was coming out after his senior year, there would be NO debate whether or not to take him number 1. Thats how much talent and maturity along with experience a player gains in his senior year. Thats why Curry went from a 3rd round pick to a 1st rounder a year later. Also why the overwhelming majority of successful NFL QBs attended their last year in school.
by BIGWalt2990 on Mar 22, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true, good points.
However, it doesn’t mean you guys have to reach on a position of preliminary strength. It would be wise to draft whoever could make the longest impact, and that, in my opinion, would be a tackle.
The Curry 3rd round thing wasn’t a dig at him, but rather the fact that Maualuga and Lauranaitis were both considered no-shit first round picks had they came out last season too, and are projected to go much later in the first so that gives you an idea of LB value that could be had later.
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by Fearless Frog on Mar 22, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's #1
I’d just as soon go with a complete starting force in the LB corp of Sims, Curry and Peterson. That would stablize that position for a few years and would inject an immediate defensive group. After that Mayhew can focus elsewhere in the draft. Somewhere out there is a qualified experienced QB that Mayhew should be able to pick and be an instant upgrade to Culpepper and I’m not talking about Cutler. His price tag may be to expensive.
by StAls on Mar 21, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you have to start somewhere.
You have to go in 1 direction or another, Both lines need WORK. You could start with OL to protect the QB of the future, that we should draft next year. The QB positon will be deep next year, and lets face it, the lions will absolutely suck this year again. So, they can fill it next year with a better QB than Stafford. If it was my team, I would put a line in place that could protect my QB of the future, before I take Stafford and send him out there to get killed. But then again, if you take Curry, you’ve got a core of LB that would be the standard in the league for years. I’ve seen there’s no absolute #1 OL so take Curry. But for gods sakes, don’t take Stafford.
by SuperDave! on Mar 21, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Stafford
I think that Stafford wins out by default. He has elite level talent, has played against the best in college football, and he was all the tools you look for in a franchise quarterback. Yes, I think Curry is an excellent choice. However, there are too many LBs in this draft and I’m not convinced that none of the others are as good as he. Furthermore, they’ve just signed Peterson. Although Schwarz and Mayhew feel he can play middle, I still feel that that is putting too much money into one area. I like Smith, but I’m concerned that he hasn’t played a lot of left tackle, and he played in a spread offense. If they don’t take Stafford, I suggest they take Monroe. Excellent pedigree, played against Chris Long in practice for years, and he’s not as much of a risk as Smith.
by rainmker on Mar 21, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I Like Monroe over Stafford
I would like the Lions to take Monroe this year, and evaluate Stanton too. I agree with Super Dave, the Lions will be picking early again in 2010 so they will likely have a good shot at an elite QB then if they need it.
This should be a three year process. By 2011, the Lions should be a rising team back in the playoffs. Expecting big results any quicker than that is being unrealistic.
by NorthLeft12 on Mar 21, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry wakeforest
Not downing any other picks being made but i look at it this way. we can pick up a few good O line members through out the draft. The Idea is to pay big bucks for a big pick and if you way it out the most we all can see that Curry is on paper and in EYE on skills the best pick. Having a pick-up of peterson from seattle will have the vet side of things Curry can learn from. Defense is where Detroit is week. the final Quarters of every game last yr we fell at the end. Putting points up can be done with a good QB and average offensive line. Finding the core mix of guys that work well together can be better suited than grabing a few big names at skills positions. We all have seen those average teams with great defensive’s they are always on the winning end of the season and some have gone and taken the big one with just thats mix…. Like teams ( bears and gaints) in the last five yrs. I hope i have made a good strong point for Curry how is talented and a Starter out the box., That can gain the leadership shills from Peterson and grow to be a strong positive asset of the Dettroit Lions
by Mr Duff on Mar 21, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please dear god, anyone but stafford
He may very well be a decent quarterback for someone else, but he’s not the guy the lions need. He’s almost Scott Mitchell re-incarnated…. he makes bone headed mistakes sometimes, which he may be able to grow out of, but not if he’s tossed to the wolves with a bad o-line… which is what will happen if we take him number 1 overall… take an O-lineman and give whoever is back there some time, and better blocking… the Line is the heart of the offense, as it goes, the team goes…. the best teams always have good linemen, there are no good teams with terrible o-lines. Build your foundation first… I’d rather pickup Byron Leftwich, than draft Stafford….
by FeelingBlu on Mar 22, 2009 1:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree.......sort of.
Lets use the #1 this year on Monroe, the rest on defence [pretty much], then see what we need in 2010.
Probably QB, unless Stanton show us a lot, and defence, and another lineman [Guard or Center].
by NorthLeft12 on Mar 22, 2009 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
defense defense defense thats what we need. new head coach (ex. defensive coor.)=
1. B. J. Rajii
1a. W. Beatty
2. J. Laurinitis
by manram45 on Mar 22, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ Raji would be a terrible #1 overall pick, and the Lions don't even run a 3-4.
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by Fearless Frog on Mar 22, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's an excellent #1 pick
he would anchor the defensive line in a 4-3 or 3-4. The d-line is the weakest group on the Lions, he would make everybody in the front 7 much better leading up front at the point of attack
by JazzyBBP on Mar 22, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Lions don't run a 3-4 and Raji projects mostly as a true NT, first of all.
Second, he’s a one-year wonder, known to loaf and take snaps off, was tremendously helped by Ron Brace, and was considered a late first/early second round pick until Senior Bowl hype tremendously overvalued his draft stock. Motivation is already an issue for several Lions players and adding another potential malcontent with the #1 wouldn’t help matters. He isn’t a top 5 talent, let alone the best in the draft.
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by Fearless Frog on Mar 23, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TRADE IT!!!!
Did we forget the Andre Ware experiment so soon? Some team desparatly wants this Stafford Kid…bleed them for all you can (ala Herschel Walker) and make this pick count for a change!!! Mayhew, We brought you in to wheel and deal and make us contenders…DO YOUR JOB!!! You have made great off-season moves, its true…but this decision will make or break you as a GM…
by HonoluluBluein WA on Mar 22, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stanton-All the way
He is ready-forget about Stafford…If you cannot get a trade-go with the O-Line…protect whomever you have back there…Schwartz is shoring up the defense…I like Stafford-just don’t think he is worth the money you WILL pay him at #1…He does Want to come to Detroit-How many people have said that in the past 10 years?
by HonoluluBluein WA on Mar 22, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One More thing...
GO DETROIT LIONS!!!! FAN FOR 40 Years-0-16 or not…THAT’S MY HOME TEAM!!! I will never give up on the Lions!!!
by HonoluluBluein WA on Mar 22, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
curry all the way
he can be moved to middle linebacker It would give the lions an awesome defense.
by barney beagle on Mar 22, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who's # 1 ?
Where to start when you need so much ? Have to go O line. Peyton would get booed off the field here. Seems like rarely we can get the ball down the field! Then go D the rest of the draft,seeing we could never hold a lead! There seems to be a good Q.B. available by draft,free agency, or trade ! Scouts get busy finding the diamond on the rough ! We always seem to bust when taking a chance on Q.B. witht the first pick. Give Stanton his shot, but I don’t think he is big enough or strong enough (I like him), but too many injuries.
by kidranger on Mar 23, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
first pick
we need a road grater on offensive line. year after year, we’ve tried to fix the problem on our offensive line with either free agents past their prime, or with 3rd or lower round draft picks. the bottom line is that neither solution works. our defense is a problem, but since we will not be good next year, and noone seems to want the first pick, use it to solve two problems. we get a franchise offensive tackle, and then we draft defense with the rest of the picks. i would sleep just as well with maleluga in the middle as i would with curry.
by big smoove on Mar 24, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With the 1st pick in the NFL Draft the Detroit Lions take OT Jason Smith
and with the 20th pick the Center Mack. WHY YOU ASK? Backus is just above avg OT
that needs help to block on passing plays and jumps off sides on running plays. Smith
can also be a TE in the goal line offense. Riola is too small 3rd and 1 he gets driven into
the backfield for another 3 and out. Mack is a big C that can get that push we need in short yardage. We would have a much improved running game. Trade Backus and Riola for what-ever draft picks we could get. Even if it’s two late rounders we free up more on the cap. The improved running game would make the D better but I’d still use all the remaining picks on the D unless they fall in love with a TE. Take a QB #1 next year.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
by Runnin' Rebel on Mar 26, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
















