Friday Notes: Stanton's Future Doesn't Look Promising
by Sean Yuille on Mar 27, 2009 12:57 AM EDT
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- Drew Stanton's future with the Lions doesn't look so hot. And yes, as mentioned in the article I just linked to, the Lions should have drafted David Harris instead of Stanton. If they had, we wouldn't be worried about the Lions needing to find another starting linebacker.
- Since the Lions have so many picks, Jim Schwartz wants to draft based on talent first. Need will obviously play a role, but he would prefer to make picks based on talent before anything else it sounds like.
- Jim Mora Jr. had positive things to say about new Lions and former Seahawks Julian Peterson, Will Heller, and Maurice Morris.
- Daunte Culpepper visited a school on Wednesday and was asked the tough question of "Why did the Lions go 0-16 last year?"
- Jim Schwartz used a picture of the 100-meter final from the 2004 Summer Olympics to demonstrate his point about having both talent and good technique.
- Dave Birkett doesn't think the Lions have a whole lot of bargaining power with the top pick because the same agency represents Matthew Stafford and Jason Smith.
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Stanton
Such an odd deal with him…the Lions appeared to have given up on him almost immediately after drafting him, even before Millen was fired. You’d think a guy they invested a first-day pick in would get at least a shot at starting in that anemic QB situation. Heck, even Mike McMahon got a chance to start and that guy was a 4th round pick who reeked in college.
By the way, Arrowhead Pride just completed Lions’ pick in the mock draft…I selected Aaron Maybin (who slipped all the way out of the top 15) with the idea that he’d be the edge rusher with Curry (who I selected first overall) moving to inside backer. If you guys want to pop over, we’d love it if you’d weigh in on the pick.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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The Lions will pick up a Draft pick QB or Sign a veteran… Not both…. Stanton will be a lion this year.
by CLF on Mar 27, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Didn't Figure He'd Go Anywhere This Year
But the options remaining out there are pretty slim. J.P. Losman’s probably the best QB remaining in free agency, and he wasn’t good in the playing time he got in Buffalo last season. And I doubt any of the QBs in the draft except Stafford (and maybe Sanchez) are going to be able to play in their rookie season.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UCrawford I agree 100%
On Stanton. I’m a UM guy, but I think he deserves a chance, not just because of draft status, but there may be some talent there. Give the hard worker a look. As far as an edge rusher goes though, I have to disagree. Cliff Avril had more sacks in his first year than Mario Williams, #1 over all, and played in only half the number of games. Check the stats. I think we’re OK there. Curry in the middle #1!!!!!!!!!!
by dylan415 on Mar 27, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder...
Did Matt Millen run a dictatorship? I mean come on, the 2 top guys in office now, worked for him and had to have had a opinion on drafting Stanton. So why all of a sudden is it that he doesn’t get his chance? Not that I am on Stantons side, but something is amiss here. I think this staff is working in the right direction and it seems that now they are all on the same track from the top down.
by shanndiggit on Mar 27, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Meet the new boss
same as the old boss
by ATL Lion on Mar 27, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Lot of Picks? Really?
Sean, The Lions have eight picks. That does not seem like a lot to me, especially considering the numerous holes in the starting lineup and the lack of depth in the remainder. There are positions that we do not need to invest high draft picks.
I hope the Lions trade down from #20 to pick up a couple of second rounders. There is no one at #20 that is worth the pick for the Lions.
Hopefully, Schwartz is just throwing up a smokescreen for the benefit of the press and other teams.
by NorthLeft12 on Mar 27, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant at the top of the draft
Probably should have been more clear.
I don’t think Schwartz means that the Lions are going to take the best player available no matter what. I’m thinking he doesn’t want limit himself to a QB with the #1 pick and automatically pass on someone like Curry since the need at LB isn’t as high as QB.
Check out Pride of Detroit, SB Nation's Lions Blog
by Sean Yuille on Mar 27, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stanton gets his shot
Last year the Lions wanted to really see what Dan Ovrloski could do because he was going to become a free agent. Mayhew said at at one of his press conferences he wants
players, 1st question is can he play. He said he didn;t want injury prone guys, he needed
players, injured people can’t play. Favre missed how many games because of injury,
0 he was a player. Stanton will get a shot if he gets injured you can kiss his _ _ _ goodbye.
by Runnin' Rebel on Mar 27, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just think...
The Lions could’ve drafted MLB Paul Posluzny AND QB Trent Edwards instead of Stanton, Alexander and Alama-Francis.
by JazzyBBP on Mar 27, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't go there Jazzy.
If you want to get depressed in a hurry, read through the last ten or so years of the NFL draft. The players the Lions took, and the ones they passed on will break your heart.
by NorthLeft12 on Mar 27, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike McMahon Was The Biggest Shocker To Me
Drafting a QB in the 4th round who completes less than half of his passes in college in the 21st century should be an immediately fireable offense for a GM.
Personally, I think that there’s a serious, objective case to be made that Matt Millen was the worst general manager in the history of the NFL. Just thoroughly inept on every level…trades, player evaluation, drafting. I don’t know enough about his contracts to know if he was bad about handing out ridiculous deals, but it wouldn’t shock me.
I do think Mayhew will be better, though.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UCrawford said
“Personally, I think that there’s a serious, objective case to be made that Matt Millen was the worst general manager in the history of the NFL”
When did anyone dispute this?
by rmatheny on Mar 29, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stanton in motown
truthfully, i always thought stanton was an above average college qb, but i wondered how he would translate into the nfl, since he spent a majority of his time scrambling. i remember on draft day i was praying that we didnt take either stanton or kolb. i was impressed with the notre dame game where he was able to rally state from a 30 point defecit to pull out the victory, but not much else. all the mock drafts had us taking trent edwards. hmmm…..how’s that working out for us?
truthfully, i have never, in all of my years of being a football fan, seen a quarterback get hurt as much in practice as stanton does. think about it, he’s not even getting hurt in games……he’s getting injured in practice, where they place a red jersey on him and tell the defense he cant be touched…….and he’s getting hurt in practice, against the WORST defense in the nfl….let me clarify…..a defense that manufactured NO pressure on the qb, not for one or two games, but for every f@#&ing game last year!
stanton has had now one coach turned coordinator considered an offensive guru, and another coach that had absolutely no idea what he was doing, and neither one thinks he’s ready to play. i don’t think that’s a coincidence. alex smith is the only other qb in recent memory that has had the same fortune of a coaching change, but neither coach endorsing him as “the guy.” as a fan, i have no confidence in stanton, and don’t even think he will be on the team next year, and if he is, he’ll be a backup. great job millen!!!
by big smoove on Mar 27, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just Remember
No slap at my GREEN friends, but Stanton was seriously mishandled at MSU by John L. Wierd. Any coach that would let his future starter play on the punt or kickoff cover teams is truly insane, no matter what the player says. I’ve blown out a knee. It takes years to recover, and forever to forget. John L. Goofy blew it.
by dylan415 on Mar 27, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not JP? I would rather sign JP Lossman than draft Stafford
He is like Joey H but just not as tainted
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
by Leapin Lion on Mar 28, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on, JP Loserman is horrible!
Don’t be shocked when Detroit signs Stafford. I am becoming more and more convinced that is where they are headed. I don’t think it is our best option, but Millen Jr. Mayhew seems to like him.
by NorthLeft12 on Mar 28, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anybody reviewed the new rule changes? Doom for the NFL
That’s what you get when lawyers and accountants run the league. Pussies!!!!! NPL national pussy league. Agents involved too. Look it over.
by dylan415 on Mar 28, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bargaining with the Top Pick
Sean, I can’t say that I agree with that statement about the lack of bargaining power because they are both with the same agency [or agent?]. That may take the agency out of the picture but the individual player would still care about being #1. Both J. Smith and Stafford have seemed to make this a point of pride to be the first player drafted. It is possible that not getting selected first would cost that individual player over five million dollars [easy]. Either one could slide to four or six or eight. That would be a huge financial hit.
It also begs the question [again!] why aren’t they also talking to Eugene Monroe? I’m not an offensive line coach/expert but everything I have read and seen indicates there is very little to choose between the two top tackles. For what reason have the Lions settled on Jason Smith?
by NorthLeft12 on Mar 30, 2009 7:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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