Monday Notes: Lions Agree to One-Year Deal with Loper
- Offensive lineman Daniel Loper agreed to a one-year deal with the Lions on Friday. Loper visited Detroit earlier in the week but left town without a deal. He was scheduled to visit Atlanta on Friday but decided to agree to a deal with the Lions instead. It is expected that Loper will compete for a starting spot at left guard, though he more than likely will be a backup at left tackle and guard as well.
- According to ProFootballWeekly, the Lions were initially offered safety Roy Williams in exchange for Jon Kitna before ultimately receiving cornerback Anthony Henry. I guess we probably shouldn't expect them to go after Williams considering they already had a chance to get him once before and passed.
- Could the Curse of Bobby Layne not actually exist?
- The Detroit News announced the winner of their Lions logo contest. Matt Zelley, who posted his version of a new Lions logo on Pride of Detroit, came in second-place.
- Apparently there are rumors that the electronic timing malfunctioned for some 40-yard dashes at the combine. I remember they were having issues with it once when I was watching coverage, so this doesn't surprise me one bit.
- Dave Birkett ran down a list of the Lions' top five draft needs.
- Nick Schuyler was released from the hospital on Thursday and attended a memorial for William Bleakley on Saturday.
- Despite being an NFL player, Corey Smith never took anything in life for granted.
- Kevin Jones agreed to a two-year deal with the Bears on Friday.
- J.T. O'Sullivan signed with the Bengals last week.
- Terrell Owens signed a one-year, $6.5 million deal with the Bills on Saturday afternoon.
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Curse Of Bobby Lane
It’s interesting to read that article about the supposed curse. I’m a relatively new fan, only following the lions now for around 5 years so my knowledge of the history of the Lions is limited. So, to hear another side of this curse, which I sorta just took as general knowlegde, is nice.
Personally, I never believed in any curse in the first place but it’s good to hear that Layne didn’t actually speak those words.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 9, 2009 1:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5 Years?
So you’ve experienced nothing but Matt Millen years? My heart goes out to ya buddy.
by wumanchu01 on Mar 9, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
It’s interesting that we were offered Roy but turned them down. It’s inarguable that the Lions needed a corner way more that they needed a safety—but it’s a measure of how far Roy’s star has fallen from just a few years ago.
I wonder if we might not come sniffing around, anyway . . . “not interested’ in return for Kitna is different from "not interested” in signing a cheap FA deal.
Peace
Ty @ The Lions in Winter
http://thelionsinwinter.blogspot.com
by ty@thelionsinwinter on Mar 9, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zelley got hosed
Its a funny story actually.
by Wad on Mar 9, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lions Might Be Interested In Williams
There was just no point in trading for him when it was likely the Cowboys were going to cut him…especially at the salary he was making. Now he’s only going to cost the contract you guys sign him for, which shouldn’t be too high considering how his stock has fallen. As filling needs at safety go, he’s a decent option as a second-tier guy (his problems in pass coverage aside).
By way of introduction, I’m usually over at Arrowhead Pride (SB Nation’s Chiefs blog)…but I’ve followed the Lions ever since Barry Sanders was with you (I’m from Wichita, KS, where Sanders is from). We’re all doing a mock draft on AP and since I’ll be selecting for the Lions thought I’d find out what you guys thought about your options for those picks. Personally I’m thinking Stafford with the first pick…just because I think he can play at the NFL level, it’s a bad QB class, Stanton’s not looking like the answer, and Culpepper’s not a long-term solution.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just In Case You Were Wondering, Though
I can pretty much guarantee that I won’t be selecting Michael Crabtree with that first pick. :)
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The majority of us in this board.....
……Want us to take Aaron Curry.
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 9, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Curry?
I’m curious…figured that you’d want Matt Stafford instead. Is Detroit going 3-4 D for 2009? Also, do you guys think Stanton could be the answer or that there’s another QB in this draft class who can step in next year or possibly this season if Stanton’s not any good and Culpepper’s game goes completely to hell (which, frankly, seems to be a distinct possibility)?
Also, with the plethora of linebacker prospects in this year’s draft wouldn’t it make more sense to hope for one at the #20 pick? Maualuga or Laurinitis might fall that far. Cushing will very likely be available. And given that only three linebackers have ever been selected with the number one overall pick (and two of them were busts) how likely do you think it is that the Lions will actually select Curry over Stafford or an offensive lineman like Jason Smith (since LT would seem to be a need position as well and would be harder to find in this draft)?
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
What do you expect that Curry would add, other than filling a starting spot at linebacker? Do you think he’ll be deployed as a pass-rush guy, or that he’ll upgrade the run defense? Where do you see him being a key contributer to your team’s defense?
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of the above
I think you have to understand the decimated nature of our linebacking corps . . . with the departure of 235-pound (ha ha) behemoth Paris Lenon, our biggest linebackers (and presumable starters) are Jordon Dizon and Alex Lewis, each of whom are 6’-0" and just under 230 . . . neither, at this point, should be anywhere near an NFL starting lineup.
Curry’s size, speed, and smarts would be an enormous upgrade, in every phase of the game, over the guys we have now. Pass rush, pass coverage, run-stopping, leadership . . . all of it. There isn’t a dimension of defense for which he wouldn’t represent a huge upgrade.
Peace
Ty @ The Lions in Winter
http://thelionsinwinter.blogspot.com
by ty@thelionsinwinter on Mar 9, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do You See Curry
As more of an inside or outside linebacker?
By the way, are the Lions planning on running a 3-4 next year? Gunther’s worked in both a 3-4 and 4-3 base, so he has experience with them both. Can Cory Redding play nose tackle in a 3-4 D? Have they said either way?
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing definitive
I think Curry’s a natural Sam, but could play Mike quite capably. His natural intelligence and size would allow him to do well at Mike, but having him just blow up runners between the tackles when he can blitz and cover like he can . . . seems like a waste. My ideal scenario is to sign MLB Mike Peterson from Jacksonville, and draft Curry. Let Peterson center Sims and Curry, and THEN you have a real LB corps.
Nothing’s been officially settled yet, but from the rumblings and suggestions, it looks like we will stay with a base 4-3 front, but flash some 3-4 looks to take advantage of our slew of big slow DEs/skinny quick DTs/fast linebackers. With the signing of Grady Jackson, we even have a guy who can play the two-gap tackle without getting blown off the ball . . .
Speaking of which, no, Redding is listed at 305 (though, to me, he looked 315 last year, and played fat and slow). In a 3-4, Redding would be better off playing DE at his listed weight. Hell, in a Redding would be better off playing at his listed weight, 3-4 or no . . .
Peace
Ty @ The Lions in Winter
http://thelionsinwinter.blogspot.com
by ty@thelionsinwinter on Mar 9, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes Sense
Back when the Chiefs had Derrick Thomas, Gunther ran a hybrid defense with Thomas as a “rushbacker”. Perhaps he sees Curry filling that role…he loves having speed LBs who can blitz.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couple of things
1) Stafford just reeks of Joey Harrington: good school, good program, lots of big-time talent around him, very long track record of accomplishing nothing in particular, looked fantastic against lesser competition, disappeared in every big game. His arm is unquestionable, but his accuracy and decision-making do not look NFL-ready. He also possesses no touch whatsoever, he guns it through everybody’s chest. Bottom line, Stafford is a mid-to-late first rounder getting 1.1 looks because of his position and the franchise holding the pick. Total reach; awful idea.
2) Lions fans in general are so gunshy, so bitter, so jaded about the QB position that we would play without one if we could. If it were up to us, we’d find a scrub who was incapable of throwing a bad pick, and we’d spend 21 years drafting every other position in the first round “building a team around him”.
Peace
Ty @ The Lions in Winter
http://thelionsinwinter.blogspot.com
by ty@thelionsinwinter on Mar 9, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
To be honest, after scanning through your FanPosts and reading this, you make a compelling argument. Combine that with your addition of Gunther and Schwartz this year (both linebacker aficionados) and I think you may be right about Curry being a better selection. And I’ve always agreed that Stafford’s high projections are a case of being “tallest midget” (best QB in a bad QB draft class).
Here’s my question, though…do you think the Lions themselves will go with that assessment and select Curry or a tackle instead of Matt Stafford?
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stafford....
….is the next Alex Smith…..ive seen nothing that I like about him and the fact that Mccoy and Bradford both coming out next year with a possible Rookie Cap its not as big ofa risk…..Curry is a sfae play and with a weak class of Linebackers hes the best pick…..Lauranitis is a 2nd rounder now and Ray will be gone by 20…..Tackle is a need but its the deepest position in the draft and we stil can get one at 1.20 or 2.1…..We only have one linebacker in Ernie Sims and Curry and play strongside or Inside….Hes the perfect pick…I have a feeling that KC wants him but he wont slip past the Lions and there new defensive minded coaching staff.
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 9, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Point
Gunther was quite obsessive about linebackers when he was here.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
roy williams has sucked since the horse collar rule
TB Rays in 09!!!
by RaysOfHope on Mar 16, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly,
At this point, the safest pick is probably Aaron Curry. There are not a lot of people in the Detroit area that are in love with Stafford. That may be who the Lions take, but it is certainly not what they need. I would take Curry, Monroe, or Jason Smith over Stafford, but thats just me.
by sparto on Mar 9, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have The Lions Offered Any Serious Indication Which Way They're Going?
I don’t know if they’re as tight with info as Chiefs management has been since they hired Pioli, but has anything slipped out on their actual draft plans? I agree that Smith would be an excellent selection as well, and probably so would Monroe (LTs are great building blocks for the future). I’m saying Stafford largely because QB seems to be a critical need for the Lions (particularly since your most effective offensive weapon is Megatron), top QB prospects can be difficult to come across, the pickings are slim for high probability NFL caliber QBs in this class, and this may be the best shot for the Lions to draft a guy with a guy who could start fairly quickly (although the jury’s certainly out on what kind of starter Stafford would be).
I’m not trying to shoot down what you’re saying, by the way (and I’ll apologize in advance if it comes off like that)…I’d like you guys to make the case for the other players too if you’re willing to do so. Thanks.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They havnt been....
…..I think they are tight liped about everything becasue if someone wants to trade up they dont want to show their hand……Not saying anyone will want to trade up but if they could say get KC to trade up and swap 1st rounders and get say a 3rd rounder this year and 1st or 2nd next year for Curry they owuld have to do that….We need picks and we need players we have 8 picks and should have one or two cmpensatory picks….we need more though and cant afford to gamle on a QB this year….Maybe next.
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 9, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't See KC Trading Up
First, Pioli comes from the Patriots and the Pats tended to like late first round picks more than early first round picks. Yes, they might like Curry a lot (or they might not…we have no idea what base defense they plan to run because we still have no defensive coordinator) but they also could use an offensive tackle and Smith or Monroe will be available for them. The Chiefs have enough holes that I don’t see them trading up in the draft just to secure one player. If anything I see them trying to trade down.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree....
…..Ive always loved The Kansas City Franchise……However I dont like the Cassell trade simply becasue I dont think he will do well outside of New Englands system that said they only gave u pa 2nd rounder…Plus he will be gone after this year…..What do you think about the trade?
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 9, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm A Little More Optimistic On Cassel
The Chiefs run a lot of stuff out of the shotgun and they ran a spread offense last year and have some talent in the receiving corps so I think Cassel will probably not struggle as much as some think. I don’t know that he’ll do as well as he did last season (Randy Moss makes QBs look a lot better than they are) but I do think he’ll exceed the performance of Tyler Thigpen (who was no slouch).
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theres been some talk....
….on here that Detroit should go after Thigpen…..I like the idea personaly…..What you think of him?
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 9, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough To Say
There are two basic schools of thought on Thigpen in Chiefs land.
On the one hand you’ve got the crowd who sees a lot of potential in him and thinks he’s got the makings of a franchise QB. His performance last year was the best we’ve seen from a young QB in a KC uniform in at least 20 years and that can’t be understated (all six QBs Carl Peterson drafted were busts…complete and utter failures). He’s young so there’s certainly the potential to improve, he’s very athletic and he’s shown flashes of brilliance (despite starting the season as the #3 QB on the roster).
On the other hand, you’ve got the group who sees him as a creation of the offense he worked in and there are serious questions about whether he’s even an NFL caliber player in any other type of offense. Running a more traditional offense during the Atlanta game, Thigpen looked nothing like an NFL QB. Frankly, he looked like a guy who was plucked off the street, given a uniform and thrown out on the field. It was possibly the ugliest performance I’ve ever seen. Only when they installed the spread offense (an offense that nobody’s sure will work in the NFL long-term) did he look capable…possibly because it’s similar to the offense he ran at Coastal Carolina. And even in an offense tailored to his strengths, his passing stats were pretty pedestrian and there are still a lot of questions about his accuracy and decision-making.
So, basically, nobody really knows about Thigpen. I think that most KC fans liked him and would have been okay (if not necessarily thrilled) with him being the starter this year, but then I also think that a lot of those fans wouldn’t have a problem with him getting traded for a decent draft pick either because they recognize that there are flaws and he may be a “sell-high” player. I’m on the fence as well…if the Chiefs could get a second or third rounder (say for him and Larry Johnson) I’d be ecstatic and say he should get shipped. If it’s a second day draft pick I think we’re better off keeping him as a backup (since, as you noted, there are questions about Cassel).
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stats Aside
Thigpen was the only QB on the Chiefs’ roster last season who could get that offense to move consistently. Huard had his moments but he was immobile and took an absolute beating behind that line. Croyle was completely ineffective even in the short amount of time he was able to stay on the field (less than a full game last year and in bits and pieces the year before). So the odds were definitely stacked against Thigpen going in and he performed well considering. If the Lions were to trade for Thigpen, I don’t know if they’d have a franchise QB on their hands, but I wouldn’t consider it a foolish move either and he could very well turn out to be an excellent player. Classic high-risk/high-reward scenario…but not a bad gamble for a third round pick. A second rounder would probably be overpaying a bit but wouldn’t necessarily be a bad trade.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
The trade netted us Mike Vrabel and we had a serious need at OLB. Our linebacking corps was almost as bad off as the Lions’ last year. We had Derrick Johnson (who had the worst season of his career), Donnie Edwards (who was injured most of the year) and a bunch of scrubs and career backups.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 9, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys!!!!!
Eat some BEEF and hot peppers!!! Get a Girlgriend!!! Quit hanging onto rumors and conjecture!!!! Look at Facts, and wait for the Draft!! It’ll be exciting!!!
by dylan415 on Mar 9, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs




















