POD Community Mock Draft: Pick No. 23
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With the 23rd pick of the 2009 Pride of Detroit Community Mock Draft, the New England Patriots select Illinois cornerback Vontae Davis.
Here is UKLion's reasoning for the pick:
The Patriots seem to be the only team close to attaining disgruntled Julius Peppers and I see this pick going to the Panthers. However, assuming this doesn't happen, the Patriots will still need help on the pass-rush. Clay Matthews is relatively popular amongst 'draft experts' but as of yet it appears the Patriots haven't hosted a private workout with Matthews. Louis Delmas has also been projected to go to the Patriots but I see his lack of size and upper body strength (demonstrated by his poor bench press at the combine) as a worry for his transition to the NFL. As well as the need at outside linebacker and safety, the Patriots require a bigger corner, especially now T.O. is in their division. Whilst Matthews and Delmas are available I don't see them as a great fit for the Pats. I see them taking Vontae Davis, the cornerback out of Illinois. The Patriots know they have holes in the secondary and have tried to address these issues with last year's draft and free agency. However, I'm not convinced they are comfortable with their cornerback personnel. Davis has great speed (40 time was sub 4.5), superb size and immense strength for a corner (he was the top performer at the combine with 25 reps). If his work ethic stays strong then he will become a dominant corner in the NFL.
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is the steal of the mock draft so far. The patriots also have the organization to control Davis, so this is much better than him going to the bengals or something like that.
by damnitdamnitdamnit on Apr 11, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions
Agree
Excellent reasoning for your selection.
by Runnin' Rebel on Apr 11, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions
Great Pick
Davis has got a lot of talent and will be an upgrade in New England. He does have some issues character-wise but I think they can be overcome.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Its good value but......
I think the Pats have a greater need and will want to get an OLB here. Especially a LB who is a rush specialist. Connor Barwin, Larry English or Clay Matthews are the pick here. With Sean Smith, Darius Butler, and V. Davis still on the board I think they wait until the #34 pick to get a DB.
I think this pick goes to Panthers but..
I opted for CB over OLB for the same reason you think they should take OLB not CB. With quite a few second round worthy OLBs i think they wait and take a quality corner here.
#81
Good try...
I think the Pats will keep on upgrading their LB corp. Given the amount of talent at pass-rushing LB position in this year’s draft, I see the Patriots waiting to use one of their second-rounders on that position. That knocks that position out of the equation. Most of the top OT’s will be gone by now, so I see the Pats waiting until the second round to make that pick. Now, for the CB position. Belichick used his highest pick on a CB last year (2-62: Terrence Wheatley). Let’s not forget about that. Plus, I think he’ll be satisfied with the short-term help of Leigh Bodden and Shawn Springs. So, without further ado, I think the Patriots will use this pick to get Tedy Bruschi’s successor. My pick is James Laurnaitis. Maualuga will be probably be gone, and J.L. is a better pass-cover LB anyways. This way the Pats won’t be exposed as much through the air.
Anyone agree/disagree?
Uhh, the Lions took Lauriniatis at #20.
Sorry dude.
by NorthLeft12 on Apr 11, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
But I agree that the Pats have enough CBs now.
Other LBs are Clint Sintim and Freeman of OSU that might fit, but they seem to be more second round material.
by NorthLeft12 on Apr 11, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW
Ok i understand this is a mock daft from detroit…hence the lack of football knowledge on this entire website. Poor article. Do your homework before reporting. HELLO? the Patriots lost Asante Samuel because they wouldnt pay him the money he wanted in 2006, so he walked at the end of 2007. Now please tell me why they would now draft a CB with the 23rd pick? They do not value CB very high. Do you remember they went through the entire 2008 season with scrubs at CB? They will not pay a CB the type of money that comes with the 23rd pick. And no, they are not more likely to draft a first round CB now that TO is in the division because Shawn Springs has played in the same division with TO for the past 7 years and has done a very good job on him, although TO’s infamous sharpie celebration touchdown did come while springs was covering him.
and as for you Steely Phil…although i agree with you about the pats drafting a young LB, do you really think the pats picked terrence wheatley with their highest pick last year?? really? Try the 10th pick and defensive rookie of the year JEROD MAYO.
PLEASE people do your homework before posting stupid comments on the internet cause theres always someone like me whos gonna prove you wrong
I looked at some other mock drafts....
on NFL.com, CBS Sports, Walterfootball.com, and SI.com [fourteen altogether] and the consensus 11 seems to be a rush OLB. Clay Matthews by a clear margin with Connor Barwin and Clint Sintim also mentioned. Twice though [and as an option on Don Banks’ list] a CB was the pick. Darius Butler or Vontae Davis. The other pick was Maualuga.
And Arkman, the Pats don’t want to pay anyone anything.
Last point, the Pats drafted Brandon Meriweather at #24 in 2007 to play Strong Safety, so they will use the first round for the defensive backfield if there is value and need.
Under a different regime they took Ty Law at #23 in 1995. HMMM what are the chances?
Nice rant but no other options
You think the Pats won’t take a CB. What do you think they’ll do. I like this pick. The Pats need another good player in the secondary and Davis is a steal at this spot.
"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx
Please do your HW before you get too stuipid
ranting without making any sense.
Vontae Davis could very well be the best corner in the draft. Without character concerns being so high (he is Vernon Davis’ brother), the only reason this guy isn’t a TOp 10 pick is cuz of that.
PLus the Pats will wait on OLB when the draft is so deep. Guys like connor Barwin, or maybe even the USC guys, or Clint Sintim could all fall to their #34 overall pick. Vontae Davis will not. THe guy’s an absolute steal right here considering how the Pats do with character concerns
THey lost Samuel cuz he would have costed $20+ mill in guaranteed cash. Davis will cose half that, and actually has more talent than Samuel. THis is one of the steals of the mock draft.
So please do your HW or come up with some actual facts (Shawn Springs can’t cover a jar anymore). Davis is an ideal pick here.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 12, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
facts
you want some facts? since BB has been the head coach of NE he has not drafted a CB in the first round…2000 – no first round pick, 2001- DT, 2002 – TE, 2003 – DT, 2004 – DT, TE, 2005 – OG, 2006 – RB, 2007 – S, 2008 – LB….now the CBs NE have played with since 2000 have all been no names with some exceptions of Lawyer Milloy, Asante Samuel, and Ty Law…Milloy and Law were both in NE before the BB regime and the were both let go, and Samuel was drafted in the 3rd round! They have played with scrubs and filled holes at CB since BB has been in charge….Thye value LBs and the DL much more than the secondary…and yes they do value safeties more than CB…which would be the reason they signed Harrison in 2003, and drafted Merriweather to replace him someday in 2007. They are more than likely to draft another LB in the first round with their 23rd pick. The aging LB crew should be proof enough. Bruschi will retire after this year, they traded Vrabel, and had to re-sign friggin Seau and Colvin during the season last year just to get them through the rest of their games. I think they will draft a pass rushing OLB, not ILB. They signed Garry Guyton (ILB) last year and he has shown some real promise and i believe they will be looking to start him one day when Bruschi retires. I do not think they will trade the pick for Peppers because he will cost too much and NE does not have the room under the cap for him, and they have never sacrificed a short term fix to a solution that would cause problems in the future (salary cap wise). I personally think they would have drafted an OT with their first round pick because their OL is aging, and they would have used their 34th for a OLB, but the draft doesnt look great to boost their OL right now….I think they will choose Matthews, Barwin (will switch him to OLB from DE), or Laurinaitis (my favorite), assuming that they are still available. Regardless if Davis is a steal for the 23rd pick, it does not mean they will draft him….with that reasoning your telling me they would pick a QB at 23rd just because he was a steal and available? maybe thats the reason detroit has sucked for so many years and keep drafting WRs…maybe they do it because they are a steal at that pick and are available? not very smart….daft for need not want, and the pats do not need a first round CB, do i think they need to draft one? yes! of course they do, but just not in the first round!
i like your facts..
it just points out that NE may need a 1st round corner beucase they have not addressed the postion in awhile. Which since you have stated thier corners are old they need to get younger at the postion. And again JL was gone in this mock. And btw I love how you come in here dishing on PPL asnd make yourself look like a idiot with your so called facts. Maybe you will be the next mel kiper that would be great then everyone other than this site can call you a idiot too.
Nice reply
it was your first sentence that drew some ire-“Ok i understand this is a mock daft from detroit…hence the lack of football knowledge on this entire website”
You state your case very well, but you don’t have to be a condesending snob
Well he is a Pats fan obviously
so like all Boston teams fans they are snobs who think their team’ are GOd’s Gift to sports.
But maybe since the Pats haven’ts drafted a CB was because they had CB’s already? Ty Law was still around in 2000? How about they draft a CB simply cuz they haven’t drafted one, the CB’s proved last year they suck, and also why not get a superior talent at a position of need? The guy was a potential top 10 pick before his character issues surfaced.
THey value D-Line, that’s why they have drafted it for years. They drafted Laurence Maroney for F’s sake in 2007, and the Pats obviously don’t value first round RB’s.
And no one said that they should pick ANYONE cuz they are a steal. Drafting a QB would make no sense obvously, so you really have no point.
THis is a good pick for the Pats. Shawn Springs is a waste, Ellis Hobbs is better known as toast, and the rest of the depth isn’t that good. It would look better with Vontae Davis on there.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 12, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
They don't draft Davis cuz he's a steal
they draft him cuz he plays a position of need and is a superior talent to who’s available at OLB. Also since the OLB’s available at #34 aren’t that much different, and also since Vontae doesn’t last that long, then this is the wise pick.
But maybe going by your reasoning they draft Brandon Pettigrew. They’ve drafted TE in round one twice before, so they are likely to do it again?……
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 12, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
















