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Lions Sign Matthew Stafford to Six-Year Deal

FOXSports.com's Jay Glazer is reporting that the Lions have signed Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford to a six-year, $78 million deal that includes $41.7 million of guaranteed money.  According to Glazer, the Lions were also negotiating with Jason Smith, who is represented by Tom Condon as well, "before ultimately deciding on Stafford as the target."

I think $41.7 million is way, way too much guaranteed money.  While that is just the way things work in the NFL right now, the Lions could have pursued other options if they felt it wasn't worth paying Stafford such a large contract.  That is in the past, though, as Stafford is now a Lion.  I don't like the decision one bit, but it's time to put that aside and support our new quarterback.

UPDATE: According to Peter King, the deal is worth $72 million with minimum playing time and $78 million with incentives.

UPDATE II: Not that it matters now, but note to Roger Goodell, please implement a rookie wage scale in the new CBA so no team ever again has to pay an unproven rookie more guaranteed money than anyone in NFL history.

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Finally over. The new era begins. GO LIONS!!!!!!!!!!

by proud to bleed light blue on Apr 24, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New era? SAME OLD LIONS

Once again we build our team the opposite way of great teams. Look at EVERY superbowl winner, gonna take you awhile to find one that didn’t have a top 10 defense. In fact I got bored before I found one, it was taking so long.(they’re probably all top 10).

And don’t use the excuse that this was an extra pick because of Roy Williams. That gave us an opportunity to excel, now were gambling on a QB.

 I would have taken the closest to sure thing, but thats just me.

by BIGWalt2990 on Apr 25, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the same token, the last 4 superbowl winners also feature QBs selected with a very high first round pick.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True true

but they were picked after a defense was established. yay.

by WBL on Apr 25, 2009 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sean, you just beat me

I tried to get my fanshot in before anyone else but I was having problems with the posting procedures. Good scoop, i reckon.

by sgdbw90 on Apr 24, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

6 YEAR 41 MILLION. 6.8 MILLION A YEAR NOT BAD. HOW MUCH INSURED

by WV LIONS FAN on Apr 24, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He'd better damn well be able to start right now

for that kind of money.

If he’s worth more guaranteed money than any QB IN HISTORY, is it too much to ask that he…you know…play football right away?

by n4ry4 on Apr 25, 2009 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not quite...

Lions want to bench him for one year and try to establish an offensive line first. Culpepper will be starting this year, unless his game goes to hell…

by ZWC11 on Apr 25, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More reason behind the "fix the team--draft a QB when you're ready for him to play" logic

Stafford will be the highest-paid benchwarmer in history.

Go 2010 Lions!

by n4ry4 on Apr 25, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you look at it like

he;s getting paid, then he’s got to play right away, that is going to make the guy fail. You paid him, but make sure he’s ready first and at least the team has a chance of protecting him first before he plays.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 25, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least

he has something to prove to everyone. Go Stafford!!!! Go Lions!!!!!!

by IowaLion on Apr 24, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

40 MILLION GARUANTED PURE SHIT

by WV LIONS FAN on Apr 24, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im glad this is all over, they overpaid but they go there guy

now i hope that they draft magualga at # 20 and peria jerry at # 33 to make it a great 1st day for the lions

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would be STUNNED if that happened, but a man can hope.

by sgdbw90 on Apr 24, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just saw it on NFL Network

Good. Let’s now get on with the rest of the draft!

by DrewsLions on Apr 24, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too much guaranteed

But I wonder what the incentives are. I hope they make it an open competition for the starting gig right away. Either that or cut Culpepper tomorrow, sign another back-up and throw Stafford to the wolves right away.

I just hope everyone shows some class and cheers for him tomorrow at the draft.

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by Jettero2112 on Apr 24, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if I'll cheer.

But I’ll clap. I’m happy with Stafford. I’m officially now on his bandwagon.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 24, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm happy for Stafford too

he just got rich on our dollar. Good for him.

by WBL on Apr 25, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now we have a shiny young QB to cheer for and a dumb FO

They could have taken the best linebacker prospect this decade whom the majority of fans wanted, at a discount, or pay more guaranteed money than anyone in NFL history has received for the best QB this decade. Which option did they choose?

I look at it this way…I’ll cheer for Stafford. After all the scouting he graded higher than Aaron Curry.

But if he’s getting more guaranteed money than Peyton Manning, he’d better be a better quarterback than Peyton Manning. Otherwise we’re overpaying.

I hope Mayhew’s not burning up all of the good fan capital he earned with the Roy Williams trade, the Schwartz hire, etc.

Otherwise our new management is just like all the other sheep that line up at the top of the draft to overpay for a rookie instead of doing something about it and taking the other highly-ranked player at a better deal.

It’s all you Matt Stafford… go Stafford!

by n4ry4 on Apr 25, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least it's over

I’m glad we have him signed but $40 mil + is just too much. It was probably too much to ask to keep it under 40 though. At least it’s not 45 like somepeople expected.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 24, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Repeat?

Well, I think we can now start talking about REPEAT? Is it possible to have back to back 0-16 seasons? At this point, I fully except the #20 pick to be a WR……

by Ottosteve on Apr 24, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We have to accept it now

As long as the Lions go Defense the next two picks, and im not sure why they wouldn’t as I feel this front office knows where the problems is, then i’m ok with this pick. I have been warming up to Stafford as of late as it was from what I saw of him on film. The contract may be big…but I think he has some serious potential to be a great quarterback…i’m more confident about Stafford than I was Harrington.

by sonofsaxon on Apr 24, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They can't go D with the next two picks.

One of those picks needs to be someone to protect his blind-side. Oher? Beatty? Maybe they’ll trade for a LT. They need someone to keep Stafford off his back.

They’ll need to go defense after that just to be able to get Stafford on the field in the first place.

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by Jettero2112 on Apr 25, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WEAK SHIT

Joey BlueSkies Part II. No 1st round pick will be the next great Lions QB.

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 24, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just hope he doesn't get Diabetes....

I knew it was coming but i’m still upset.. i’m upset that we finally have the #1 pick and there was no definitive selection.

Why couldn’t we just have that draft where theres one guy everyone believes you would be ignorant to pass on.

Stafford better take his millions and at least buy a new F150 or something.

  1. has to be MLB now. Maualuga will be gone and we can’t afford to lose Laurinaitis if we wait till #33.

by MatthewDC on Apr 24, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking . . .
  1. is the position where we trade down, I don’t think the guys we’d be targeting at #20 would be there. If we could trade back to the mid-to-late twenties and keep our 33rd pick, we could get Lauriniatis at a decent price and scoop some picks at the same time.

by TennesseeYooper on Apr 25, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOVE CURRY

 BUT IM MARRIED TO STAFFORD NOW GO STAFFORD. GO LIONS.

by WV LIONS FAN on Apr 24, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SEAN, its just the way the NFL..

Good sign… GO LIONS, I hope we can all Support him, A CONTRACT SHOULD NOT PREVENT YOU FROM TAKING YOU #1 PLAYER

by thePROD1GY on Apr 24, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Jerry..

But after everything i’m convinced MLB is our biggest need. Especially after watching that look into our draft room and board and when they scanned past our depth chart on the wall, MLB was empty.. meaning they have noone projected there at all right now. We can’t take the risk that we pass on Laurinaitis and Indy picks him up.

There are good DT’s later on and we at least have starters right now. Worst case we get to see what Fluellen can do.

by MatthewDC on Apr 24, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB has to be pick 20

im hopeing that rey rey will be there but if not then lauranitis should be the pick

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am gonna be pissed now if Culpepper looks amazing.

I’m afraid they are going to use #33 on the O-line once they have their MLB. I just don’t want our defense to look as sad as last year. They made me want to cry in every game by like 8 minutes into the 1st qtr…

by MatthewDC on Apr 24, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's look on the bright side..

We may have just got Jay Cutler without the health problems and without the crybaby syndrome…

by MatthewDC on Apr 24, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would you be pissed?

I don’t care who the QB is. If Michael Jackson was our QB and we made the playoffs I couldn’t care less.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 25, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have a feeling that they will trade the # 33 pick to get more picks

perhaps move down 5-10 spots and pick up a 4th rounder

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least thats what i hope they do

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Y'all don't deserve him.

And I expect to get flamed for saying that, but that’s fine.

You’re getting a kid who steadily improved from year to year despite playing behind a M.A.S.H. unit of an OL. A kid whose TD’s and competion % have gone up and whose INT’s have gone down. A kid whose coach says he’s easily the most talented QB he’s ever coached, and that includes Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke. A kid who says and does the right things. A kid who played in a pro-style offense in a spread world. A kid who was given 100% check-off privileges at the LOS.

And oh yeah, the moment he signs his contract, he has the strongest arm in the league.

Build a dang team around him, let him grow up with the other talent you bring in, and stop whining so much. Yeah the money is absurd but that’s not his fault.

by Hobnail_Boot on Apr 24, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

were not whining, im happy that he have stafford

he is now our franchise QB an i hope everything works out and he turns us into a winner

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok Dawg homer

Stick your head up when your team is relevant again and your face hasn’t been STOMPED into the ground by the GATORS…sweet black jerseys…that Matt Stafford is the one who will be in Lions uniform….worthless, broken and a harrington replica

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 24, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding what...

your angry…as a supporter of a Detroit oriented blog, who has been visiting this site for 2+ years, I was hoping to get a little more positivtity out of the webmaster

by thePROD1GY on Apr 24, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not angry, just disappointed

But I don’t need to listen to some non-Lions fan coming in here and telling us that we don’t deserve someone. That, I am angry about.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 24, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only to point out that..

A guy who’s made his career off of judging and coaching QB’s went out of his way to say that about Stafford when he didn’t have to. It may or may not translate to Sundays, but I think you’d agree that there are a ton of factors after today that will go into determining how successful Matt’s pro career is.

by Hobnail_Boot on Apr 24, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously coaches say players are awesome that suck all the time..

it’s one of those rules..

seriously.. is this Matthew Stafford posting on an alias or something…

by MatthewDC on Apr 24, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a different perspective is all

Good luck building around Stafford.

by Hobnail_Boot on Apr 24, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would rather have had

a building pick like Curry or Smith. Build the line and defense. Then pick the qb. The Lions will probably have the number one pick next year and could have gotten bradford or mccoy.

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 24, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We don't deserve him?

Give me a freaking break. We can have an opinion if we want. I guess you’re right, though. We don’t deserve him. We deserve someone much, much better given that we went 0-16. We deserve not to have to pay him more guaranteed than anyone else in NFL history. We deserve to build a franchise, not put it at risk if Stafford doesn’t pan out.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 24, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The sad thing is, he's right.

Looking back 2 last years draft, we coulda had Joe Flacco, or Ryan Clady. So, I guess the 80million dollar question is what’s gonna happen 2 this kid once Culpepper get hurt & get’s thrown behind that line, Cuz I haven’t seen the kinda upgrades they need, on the OL, 2 allow a QB 2 b successful.

by LTownDown on Apr 25, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Dear God.....

“A kid whose coach says he’s easily the most talented QB he’s ever coached, and that includes Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke”

I’m not sure if that’s a compliment or an insult :)

by Ottosteve on Apr 25, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who cares how strong his arm is

if he throws it to the other team, it doesn’t really matter does it?

Hopefully the kid makes it big, but there’s absolutely no way he should be paid as much as he’s being paid… and when the Lions are back in the top 10 next year, they’ll have to cut more players just to be able to sign another unproven commodity

by Boney on Apr 25, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stafford

The Lions brass has decided he’s our guy so we have to rally behind him and support him as our future QB. I wouldn’t refer to the rest of the draft as ‘salvaging’, Stafford is still a solid pick, he’s a huge need. But without the O-Line in place we could be headed into sack-riddled waters. Oher is a must (I heard on NFL network the Bills are interested, I hope this is not true) if we are to protect the QB now and into the future. We need a bookend Tackle. Trading up may be a necessary evil if we are to ensure Stafford’s jersey doesn’t look like a Cleveland uniform.

by detpistons3 on Apr 24, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hell no to trading up, if anything he should be trading down to get more picks

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great call

let’s gut the rest of the draft for another mediocre player.

by MattyZ on Apr 24, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol u could tell that stafford knew something when they inteviewed him and he said he didnt know anything about it

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all my hopes and

dreams are out the window…

unless 2 people made a mistake!!

by angrysmurf on Apr 24, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stafford to c johnson!

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe at some point this season

i love DC from his minny days but he cant stay healthy

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

any one have any idea of wat jersey # stafford is going to wear?

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

most likely 7

isn’t that his number? Does someone have it?

by MatthewDC on Apr 24, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont think someone has it

if they do, he now has enough cash to buy it from them

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ROFL

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 25, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

More guaranteed money than big albert haynesworth!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Apr 24, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he plays a more important position that haynesworth

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by RaysOfHope on Apr 24, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Albert Haynesworth is the best DT in the game.

Stafford isn’t even a starting QB at this point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Apr 25, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Albert Haynesworth WAS the best DT in the game

Had a couple good years when he was looking for a big contract. Now he got it and he’s gonna be a huge bust in DC.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 25, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He reminds me of a slightly more talented version of Shaun Rogers who now that he has his money will quit playing as hard as he did and just become an ok player that doesn’t try hard.

by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

I threw up a little in my mouth when I heard Stafford signed for the much $. I’ll support him starting tomorrow but for now, I feel like Ralphy when he got that bunny suite for Christmas.

by Pistons21 on Apr 24, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I say we trade stafford now for a 2nd and a 3rd....

Its more than we will get for him once he has played 2 seasons in Detroit….maybe we can still get some starters with the new picks.. .haha

by MatthewDC on Apr 24, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think there

are two camps of how to find a qb in the NFL. One is getting the high first round franchise qb ala Rivers, Eli and Peyton. The other is finding a value pick, which the lions needed to do. Defense wins championships. Look at Kurt Warner, Big Ben, Kerry Collins, Flacco. All VALUE. Not prima donnas with enough money not to care about anything.

 I believe Stafford may have been there at 20 if we would have passed on him, But then there is Mike Mayock, who I believe is a much better talent evaluator and said “lions have no business taking stafford”. Curry was the safe pick a terrible franchise needed most. Sorry, but I will get behind stafford when he proves to me he deserves even a dollar of that contract. So drop the “he’s our qb, get behind him”, when he plays worth a damn in the pros and proves that he is not the next joey.

This is such a typical WF JR. pick. All flash. No substance.

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 24, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kurt Warner was a lucky pickup by the Rams back in the day

and the other three guys you mentioned (Ben, Collins, Flacco) were all 1st round picks. Yes, they didn’t get paid as much as him with their first contracts, but the teams that drafted them thought they were the answer at QB, just like the Lions do with Stafford. Big Ben is making huge money with the Steelers now anyway, they gave him a huge contract before last season. Collins was a huge bust in Carolina before he became a game manager in Tennessee, who’s offense revolves around two other highly touted offensive players in LenDale White (2nd round) and Chris Johnson (1st round). Flacco was a rookie last year and he still had a pretty big contract for going in the top 10. Don’t go talking about getting value players when all the guys you use to back up your argument were high-profile, big-money picks on draft day. Defense does win championships, but when you move a guy out of his natural position (Curry is NOT a MLB) it’s more of a risky pick than a QB at #1. Support Stafford, I think he’s going to be the real deal.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 25, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually expected more outrage

But I think it had already sunk in a little in the last few days. It will probably take a few weeks for people to get over it.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 24, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is everyone so angry....

Support der Furher!!!! Lay off the cornbread, brah

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 24, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone commented that they're done with the team or anything like that?

Jeez, I even said this right in the story: “I don’t like the decision one bit, but it’s time to put that aside and support our new quarterback.”

Just because we disagree doesn’t mean we aren’t supporting the team. We’re voicing our opinion.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 24, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's ok, just ignore the happy ones..

We all know we’ll be right here on Sunday’s Sean, in our Stafford jerseys, cursing on the live game posts about how pissed we are about his 3 int…

by MatthewDC on Apr 25, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep your jersey

Will he have time to throw 3 picks? It’s looking like the Defense won’t be off the field long enough to get in the game that many times.
I’m not disowning the franchise but this is painful.

by MattyZ on Apr 25, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Front Office

Am I the only one that feels like the front office stabbed us in the back. They took a poll on the official NFL website and Stafford was 3rd pick behind Smith and Curry. WTF! After a 0-16 record, what would it hurt to try to do something for the fans besides putting bubbles on steroids.

by Pistons21 on Apr 24, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Totally the wrong way of looking at it.

The last thing in the world should do is bow to the will of the fans. Fans are fickle, fans are stupid. I’d honestly rather they take Stafford because they believe in him then make the right pick for the wrong reasons. Because all that would portend was that we had a bad, weak front office that wouldn’t know how to build a team and would just give do whatever the fans, who are most certainly not NFL cailber talent evaluators, wanted.

by Trysdor on Apr 25, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are partly right

“we had a bad, weak front office that wouldn’t know how to build a team” This is your quote. Change the had to have and you are exactly right. Even if Stafford should somehow pan out the move was still to risky to have taken. They are idiots for putting the next four years at risk until proven otherwise.

by Lionssuck on Apr 26, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The is a Willy Clay

pick. Straight up. I think Mayhew and Schwartz wanted Curry.

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 25, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ford's on record saying he only worries about turning a profit.

Obviously the worst way to turn a profit is to defy your fans and take the player who wants by far the most money. I don’t think this is a Ford pick. Maybe an Al Davis or Jerry Jones pick, but not a Ford pick.

by Trysdor on Apr 25, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know how Ford makes his profits?

By signing outrageous contracts to get into the shared revenue. He’s got that covered for a while now….this is a WCF pick all the way and about mid season hes going to demand the coaching staff puts the Staff infection on the field to get some fans back in the building.

by MattyZ on Apr 25, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude this

is the Joey nightmare all over again. Harrington was a WCF pick all the way.

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 25, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's been fun

Love my Detroit franchise for doing exactly the opposite of what they said they’d be doing.
Building a run/stop the run squad. Not paying Shiny an epic and record breaking amount. I’m ashamed to be a fan of this franchise.
41 million…
just broke my 3 months without swearing…frack. Ok back on track

by MattyZ on Apr 24, 2009 11:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In fairness

One of the very first things Schwartz said was “Maybe it’s time to find a replacement for bobby layne.”

by Trysdor on Apr 25, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great

Yea he said that, but I’m pretty sure the Lions have been saying that for ohhh 50 years.
That’s the problem with the franchise, trying to find that one great thing and have some kind of offensive carnival.
with the 20th pick the Lions select the 5th best tackle, now how about some scrubs to fill in the defense.

by MattyZ on Apr 25, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somehow I feel like I just bought a new car..

only to get in an accident on the way home from the dealer…

by MatthewDC on Apr 24, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you got a good, reliable car

that you paid two hundred grand for

by n4ry4 on Apr 25, 2009 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Signing off, guys...

Just can’t take all this pissing and moaning….

Not like we all couldn’t see this coming for months. Why the shock and awe? Just can’t believe all the negativity here. It’s not like you have to love the guy, just support the choice of the franchise that put in COUNTLESS hours of scouting, meetings and interviews to come to this moment. It’s not like Mayhew and Schwartz are sitting in a room right now popping champagne saying “Hehehe… we’ve finally pissed off all of our fans by drafting someone we know to be a bust!”.

The front office believes they just signed the best player in the draft and the one that gives this franchise the best foundation for future success. If you believe anything other than that, there is nothing I can say to make anyone feel better about the situation and Stafford. As for the contract… we saw that coming too. He’s a quarterback and he’s the top pick… it’s gonna be big and break all records. No surprise.

It’s just reached fever pitch on here the last few days with the Stafford outrage and I, for one, will ignore it and sit back and enjoy the day tomorrow. I’ll probably go out and get my Stafford jersey soon, too. Funny… I feel like the backstabber here. How odd. Have fun complaining, guys… I’ll check back in tomorrow and see if the mood is any better. It’s just not any fun reading this stuff.

Drews

by DrewsLions on Apr 25, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha, kidding Drews.. lighten up man

I’m just angry because the pistons lost a game they could have pulled out tonight simply because they gave up…

by MatthewDC on Apr 25, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

you think the Lions scout? They just tivo Kiper and follow his every word. This is not a professional franchise. I love the Lions, but Curry would have signed for less money and would have contributed right away.

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 25, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With all due respect

What do you expect the people who didn’t want Stafford to do? Everyone isn’t just going to suddenly start celebrating someone they didn’t want. It’s not like people (not that I’ve seen at least) are renouncing their fanhood and tearing Stafford apart. They’re simply disagreeing with the decision. Given what Lions fans have already been through, I think that should be expected.

Pride of Detroit, SB Nation's Lions Blog

by Sean Yuille on Apr 25, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's most dissapointing...

…is I was actually starting to climb up on the Martin Mayhew bandwagon. While I’m not thrilled with Stafford being the #1 pick, it is what it is and I can only hope for the best. What bothers me is that Mayhew was given incredible leverage with Curry’s comments about accepting a deal similar to Jake Longs, and the Lions turned that leverage into the largest contract in the history of the NFL?! By most accounts Stafford was only at the top of ONE teams draft board, and for an 0-16 team that has holes at virtually every position this just doesn’t make any sense to sign anyone for that much money, let alone a player who doesn’t seem to be highly sought after by any other teams? I’ll root for him because I have to, but this just seems like the same piss poor decision making that has plagued this franchise for fifty years. I can only say with partial sarcasm that I hope they don’t draft a wide receiver with the next 1st round pick?!

by Mushy on Apr 25, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand, Sean

I’m not looking for anyone to celebrate or even agree with the pick. My post is in reference to those taking it to the Nth degree…. denouncing the franchise, talking about this being Millen all over again, saying it’s the worst pick in the history of the franchise and so on. Read through the comments – which I’m sure you have – some of them are just so over the top. That’s what’s frustrating to me. I just like educated opinions, that’s all. This f—- the franchise and f—- Stafford and f—- Mayhew attitude just makes it no fun to read these threads that’s all.

I value your opinion on Stafford, Sean. Don’t fully agree, but your argument is level-headed. That I can handle.

Anyway, it’s draft day now and I am excited. Nothing can really spoil my mood today. Enjoy guys!

by DrewsLions on Apr 25, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, Drews (nt)

http://thelionsinwinter.blogspot.com

by ty@thelionsinwinter on Apr 25, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a feeling Stafford was the pick. But doesn’t mean i have to like it. I’m still a lions fan for life. And maybe Stafford will be the best qb ever or maybe he’ll be a bust (40% chance). But damn, i just need to vent a little. Not trying to hurt feelings or argue my point of view. You guys are the only ones I can relate to. Go Lions.

by Pistons21 on Apr 25, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah and with a prenup, too

So when we call it quits, I get a guaranteed $20.5MM.

Better than you’ll get from your failed affair, Ms. Curry!

Here’s a tidbit for ya, DC…
Sarcasm is the failure to come up with anything pertinent to say and smart-ass comedy is a nervous response to an inferiority complex.

by DrewsLions on Apr 25, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I like that Drews

by JCruize on Apr 25, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what sucks

The draft doesn’t start for me until 6am Sunday (l’m 14 hours ahead of you guys), so I have to wake up early just to get on top of the comments here before the draft starts. So if I’m a little incoherent before the draft, it’s because I’m still waking up.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude, you're getting funnier each day..rec'd

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

change Calvin Johnson’s number from 81 to a picture of a plate.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 25, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh well

Now that the initial shock has somewhat eased up, I’m not mad at the Lions. I’m mad at myself for beleiveing the front office would do something that the majority of us fans felt was the right choice. These are the exactly the same gusy that in one way or fashion picked Dizon, Stanton and a few other bench warmers. Bottom line, these were Millen’sboys.

by Pistons21 on Apr 25, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just can't, for the life of me, figure out what the point of all the smokescreens was..

if they were just going to give him exactly what he wanted anyways.

Maybe more information will come out tomorrow that sheds some light on the situation. Stafford leaked a while back that he was going to get $40 million guaranteed, which he did. That leads me to believe that this offer has been there all along and Condon was just checking to make sure he couldn’t get anything better.

by MatthewDC on Apr 25, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The smoke is clear....

but I’m still in a daze. I just heard the Stafford got a text from Lions office stating, “don’t worry. your our guy”. So what was up with all this talk about Mayhew standing firm and holding all the cards.

by Pistons21 on Apr 25, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If thats true

I don’t like him already.

by JazzyBBP on Apr 25, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft virgins...

I hope your not mad because you weren’t made aware of what was going on behind the scenes…welcome to the draft….where no one tells the truth and hopes everyone will buy the rumors to heighten the value of their pick…

by Notasangryasyou on Apr 25, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im not a draft virgin, not even close.

the point is, the game they played made no sense. It served no purpose. It did not under any circumstances get them a better price, it did not increase trade bait, really all it did was anger the fans by lying to them and only them really. Everyone else it seems besides the fans was in on the fact that stafford was the pick. So that means their only goal was to hide it from us until they felt they could convince us it wasn’t a bad pick. Everything they leaked was an attempt to try and find a way to take their guy and have the fans believe they were better than millen and were getting a good deal. Which they failed miserably at.

Millen would have been on TV hugging Stafford 2 months ago asking to have his babies. Mayhew instead taunted the fan base with the pick that they voted for, and then threw it in their face. Not really the best tactic in my mind.

by MatthewDC on Apr 25, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Lions Fan is a Draft Virgin

We’ve all been fucked by the draft multiple times.

by detpistons3 on Apr 25, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

hahaha so true

by handsomerob1 on Apr 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm mad about the money

I knew it was going to happen, but I thought the Lions would have negotiated a better contract. They had Curry for a better price and decide to give Stafford a rookie RECORD when we all know damn well he’s going to have a lousy record because there is no frickin’ team around him and he’ll be the blame.
He might be great like Manning, but I’m referring to Archie
You don’t build a team QB first, at least have some pieces in place for him to have some success

by JazzyBBP on Apr 25, 2009 12:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I can live with Stafford as it fills a need and given the rise in rookie pay scale it was predictable the type of money he was going to get. I would have been happy with Jason Smith as well but I’m not as sold as everyone here seems to be on Curry…drafting a LB number 1 and then putting him inside…pass on that and hope for Oher at 20. Defenses are helped in the following three rounds.

by Notasangryasyou on Apr 25, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

most of us already are stafford backers as of 10 or so last night..

We aren’t mad about Stafford… we are mad that we now have the highest guaranteed money contract player in the history of the NFL and he only played 3 years of college, never started an NFL game, and may or may not earn $1 of his $41.7 million.

It’s too much money, Mayhew was obviously disrespecting the fans the entire time and honestly would have been better off if they had just said from the beginning, Stafford is our guy, he is the pick, lets get a contract. They couldn’t have paid more, he got the best contract ever. They wouldn’t have given false hope to Curry who was very respectful and even offered to take a pay cut, and they wouldn’t have angered their fan base.

by MatthewDC on Apr 25, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

These rookie pay scales are AB-FREAKING-SURD!!!!

I really hope he pans out for you guys.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Apr 25, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree…but this will help push the league towards a rookie pay scale…

by Notasangryasyou on Apr 25, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the NBA has it right

cap the # of years at 3 and the salary amount. Give first day guys a guaranteed contract, everybody else is fighting in camp for cash.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 25, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think ..

stafford will be an excellent quarterback and has 20 times the field general skills of joey blow skies , and he will have culpepper to learn from …if it wasn’t for joey jeckel and harrington hide , we wouldn’t be pissing and moaning all night about what we can’t control….I just hope we don’t trade drew stanton and he comes back and beats us on thanksgiving day !!!!!

marc hoople

by spinitnow on Apr 25, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

I think this also locks up who we’re going to take with the #20 or the #33 pick. If they don’t take a tackle on offense that’s better than Backus he’s going to end up sacked 30+ times this year and hit a whole hell of a lot more.

by rmatheny on Apr 25, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a guy who hated his team's high QB pick last year

You just never know. I wish Stafford the best of luck, and hopefully the Lions will be a force in the NFL sooner than later.

by Dave the Falconer on Apr 25, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nothing about the Lions

makes them a winner “soon”

by rmatheny on Apr 25, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Ryan is AWESOME....

…for my fantasy team. Keeper league, got Matty Ryan coming back to me for a 17th round pick this year. Who should I take with the #1 pick?

by handsomerob1 on Apr 25, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worst pick ever!!

honestly this is gotta be the worst pick for the Lions in franchise history, Stafford has folded in very bowl game he has ever been in. The guy cant handle pressure so wtf was the point of taking him… Curry would of been the wisest choice or OT Smith…. yeah draft a QB that doesnt have an O-line to protect him…. until this team goes for some defense they will always have the worst defense in the NFL… Just by picking Stafford, Schwartz has shown that he isnt ready to coach….. U fukin Suck Schwartz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by LoinsCru on Apr 25, 2009 2:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Congrats Matthew Stafford

I for one am glad that we brought him on board. I think he’ll turn out to be a very good NFL QB, and if we can put the pieces in place around him this year and next, I think we’ll be in great position to start making playoff runs by 2011.

by AZ Yooper on Apr 25, 2009 2:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Lions

A little more then I hoped to pay, but ultimately I’m glad they took the person they believed in. Like Drewlions said, this is the guy they wanted after thoroughly scouting and talking to everyone considered a top pick caliber player. I think most of us here have had positive reviews of what Mayhew had done since taking over for Millen…the fact that he had the balls to pick Stafford knowing how bad our defense was last year and the fact the Curry or Smith would be a safer pick shows us how much he (and Lions mgt and coaches) believe in Stafford. Even if you don’t agree with the pick, just root for this guy going forward.

Like I said on another thread…draft Oher at 20 if available, but if he’s not draft one of the guard/centers at pick 33 and draft the rest defense. We have to focus on the goal of getting us to the point of being a consistent elite team and not whats just best for us next year. Sit Stafford the year behind Culpepper as long as he plays decent. Next year draft two quality O-lineman and the rest defense. If we could sign a couple more quality free agents then too we’d have a very nice foundation for Stafford in 2010. Carson Palmer, Matt Cassel, Aaron Rogers all benifited by sitting out for one year. Again, we aren’t making the playoffs next year, so theres no difference between 3 wins and 5 wins.

by Stones1981 on Apr 25, 2009 2:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Signing early good

I don’t know if Stafford will be good and like everyone else I would like a resonable rookie wage scale, but since there is no such scale and since the Lions believed in Stafford, signing him early was smart.

Once he was made the #1 pick, there was no way he wouldn’t get a record-breaking deal. Now it’s done and everybody can get on with the work. (Like Matt Ryan last year. His deal doesn’t look as ridiculous now, does it?)

Remember two years ago? JaMarcus Russel was the #1 pick but contract negotiations lasted into the season essentially meaning he lost his rookie season – and in the end he STILL got a record contract. Now THAT was bad management.

I’m not a Lions fan, but I hope this works out for you. Good luck!

by hythlodaeus on Apr 25, 2009 3:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well congratulations to you all

I give up… Apparently the Lions are set in their ways. Why fix problems when we can pretend they don’t exist.

FUCK MAYHEW.

by WBL on Apr 25, 2009 6:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

EVERYON hates the pick…LOL.

Frickin Lions fans. They LOVE the absoulte wrong pick that will set them back for another 5 years, but get the guy that potentially could actually make them a contender and they hate it.

Congrats on getting the top QB, you deserve to start winning. I hope Stafford proves all of you wrong. This is the right thing to do, and also getting him under contract will go a LONG LONG way toward getting him on the field.

BUt the rookie wage scale NEEDS to be in place. Yea, Stafford is a legit #1 overall pick, but damn no way he shold be getting this kind of contract without throwing a down.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fricken Giants Fans...

Your team is Super Bowl ready, capable, and willing. You have almost every piece you need. The 2 pieces you might need an upgrade or backup for you will get in the draft. You got lucky with late rounders and you got a Manning dropped in your lap because he didn’t want to goto San Diego. But somehow you believe that makes you a draft expert. I have an idea, go talk to Giants fans. I bet they are all as joyous as you. Plus your city could never go broke while ours is losing all of it’s major industry,.

You won a super bowl in the last 3 years. We never have. Quit judging and go back to New York. If some of us want to take a few hours before the signing to vent.. let it be..

Frickin Giants Fans…

by MatthewDC on Apr 25, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Harrington again?

O-line has about the same potential. At least Stafford has the option to chuck the ball to Calvin and prey on the way. Hopefully we can pick up D-Line, LT, Tight end and some depth at running back. If we start a rookie QB Kevin will get busted up.

by nekweb1 on Apr 25, 2009 8:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What A Shock

the lions have ruined yet another draft

by beef99 on Apr 25, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mixed emotions

I think I understand why they picked him. He does have Peyton Manning like potential but the Colts only have one superbowl win with him so as great as he is it is still a team game. I guess there wasn’t much faith in Daunte having a long term comeback in Detroit and Drew Stanton can be considered another wasted high round draft pick. I know running a football team is not a democracy but the fans watch the games and pay for the stadium and buy the fan gear so I just wish they would have taken Aaron Curry so we could only blame ourselves if he busts. Oh well, good luck Stafford, please don’t burn us like every other QB we have ever drafted did and we will learn to love you here. The coaches jobs are in your hands now.

by MonteCarlo7888 on Apr 25, 2009 11:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not that you can believe anything you hear on TV...

… but according to Billy Devany (GM for the STL Rams) there has been a “flurry of activity” since the news officially came out that the Lions and Stafford have agreed on a deal. Meaning that teams are climbing all over themselves trying to get the players that they want. What’s twisted about this is that the Lions took the one guy that apparently no one else was that interested in. I don’t buy that no one wanted that #1 pick because of the financial implications, because anyone who thinks that Sanchez is going to come cheap is out of their minds. All this confirms is that the Lions did what they all expected they would do, and the reason the #1 pick had no value is because no one was that concerned the Lions would take the players they really wanted. Way to start the draft with a bang Mayhew!

by Mushy on Apr 25, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Amen Sean

The guy hasn’t even taken a snap and everyone hates him and the pick. Let it play out. We may not like it, but let’s give him and the rest of the Lions, who have otherwise done a remarkable job this offseason, a chance.

by Packey on Apr 25, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Stafford

I just did some quick math it will take me over 641 years to make what he made in guaranteed money! Does anybody in their right mind see a problem with this system?
I don’t dispute them making money but come on!

by RoadLion on Apr 25, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is this a Lions fan site?

Wow so much negative about my team. He was a chosen #1 when he was a senior in high school, no matter who had the first pick it was him. We just got lucky. If you dont like the pick, then accept it. I personally am souped. Hands down the best choice. No matter the money we are a different team. A very smart player with a cannon.GO LIONS!!!!!

by proud to bleed light blue on Apr 25, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As a Packers Fan

Mark Tauscher is still a free agent, he should have a few good years at OT and Green Bay is going to go younger though he would be instant impact for cheap.

by tkiller314 on Apr 25, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Everyone is saying draft defense, yeah they were horrible the last couple years but with some of the pickups in offseason it shows promise. I think it was more of a system failure than personnel. Look for a dt with one of the next 2 picks. I’d be happy with a top 20 defense in 09.

by nekweb1 on Apr 25, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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