2009 NFL Draft Open Thread - Round Two
by Sean Yuille on Apr 25, 2009 7:48 PM EDT
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Yeah as i was saying
Rey Rey was #11 on scout.coms overall big board
Man, that got really slow at the end.
Go Lions. Take Ray Maualuga!
"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx
i love our draft now
The Pettigrew pick looks genius now with Ray Maualaga falling this far.
Yep.
I’ve been trying here. This one is hard to accept.
Was it?
Lets take a run down on the mentality….
1st pick- Best QB in the draft
2nd pick- Best TE in the draft
3rd pick- Best Safety in the draft
As long as they are taking the “Best” player available at that position… Its fine with me.
He might've been the best in the draft
But this is also regarded as a weak safety class.
Safety from Western Michigan
Supposedly not very intelligent
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Okay
Maualuga obviously is missing a bone or a nerve that allows him to play football because no way we pass on him twice
Once again, I'm sick
They’ve passed twice on Maualuga now?
by Ian Casselberry on Apr 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
Pats passed on Maualuga twice
There’s something that teams don’t want. If he falls to 65th I still woudln’t want him
Must have a LB and DT targeted in 3rd round
by Runnin' Rebel on Apr 25, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions
Well you cant blame value, #1 QB, TE, and S
by Liontotheextreme on Apr 25, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
Here comes the defense run
All those teams that picked offense last round are going D so say goodbye to the solid D players
True
Then in the 3rd rd all the special teamers will be gone so say goodbye to all the Long Snappers and punters we wanted
I acutally love it...
Best defensive player available. Obviously, ReyMa has some serious issues to fall this far. Delmas addresses our definite need in the secondary. The obvious thinking is that there are MLBs good enough to wait for in the third round.
I think they are torn between the two MLB
I wonder if they will wait for one to get taken and then trade up with their third. Makes sense to just wait until one goes off the board
Matt Stafford better not start till 2010
and you guys actually put some money into the offensive line. How could you pass on Oher?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Disappointed...
…in the fans here. If you guys had done any research, you’d know that Louis Delmas is a solid safety that will do great for us. I can’t even begin to explain how many of you were saying you can get a solid LB at any point in the first three or four rounds. C’mon. They’ve had a solid draft so far.
GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!
Why delmas it makes no sense
Most likely Henry will be starting at safety
Alright guys, have a good night...
I hate it but only time will tell.
by damnitdamnitdamnit on Apr 25, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
I see the reason and thats because VALUE, number 1 at all three positions
by Liontotheextreme on Apr 25, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
I don't want Maualuga anymore
That being said Delmas is a good pick. Best safety prospect in this draft and he’s a real hard hitler. God pick from Mayhew
Here is what I am going to say..
This draft is so off the wall crazy, it must be genius… theres no way Mayhem would make this many mistakes when the fans are already so crazy..
It must be genius at work.. in 5 years we are gonna probably want to have his babies
lol
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take a different approach here...
Instead of taking the chic picks, they are – for once – taking the best players on their boards. Maybe pissing off the fans finally means they are getting the right players for a change. Makes sense to me.
Yeah, Delmas was rated high on a lot of boards.. and is definitely the best at his position
They said they would select talent and best player over need…
So I think that is what they are doing
I'll go along with that and give the benefit of the doubt
…as long as we get a DT or MLB in round 3 (or sooner)
I don't know what is happening
Why are we not addressing huge gaps or weaknessses
TE and S
are huge gaps. We can still address LB and DE. Maybe the options just aren’t as solid as we think.
GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!
he already said hes staying at OLB where he was drafted
by Liontotheextreme on Apr 25, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No matter how good Pettigrew is
or Delmas is, the fact is, we have giant holes in our roster they’ve utterly failed to fill.
haven't filled yet
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
UTTERLY
Great, so we’re going to not only have an unproven player @ MLB, but an unproven player who couldn’t shine in college. Fucking fantastic
they are taking the best players available regardless of position
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
Still confused
Why haven’t we touched MLB or O-line yet. I like the taking best players available at each position, but it’s still interesting to see what the hell we’re going to do to not get our qb’s smoked and give up crap tons of rushing yards at this point.
Why..
why get a guy just because we NEED that position. If the player isn’t good enough to be a starter, whats the point?
Get a player you think will be a good starter for you, not a player thats simply better than what you already have just to improve a little.
Schwartz will run a 5-2 Defense this year. Does he have a choice?
by Runnin' Rebel on Apr 25, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
I have not been high on Mayhew
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt because of the Roy Williams trade. But after this draft I am going back to being depressed that we have a guy who calls Millen for advice.
We have a pretty big hole at MLB. We don’t even sniff around a MLB in free agency and now we are waititng for the 3rd round (maybe) for one in the draft?
Why Delmas
Does it make any sense. Is this ford looking for a michigan guy?
Because our starting FS
Is Gerald Alexander, a guy coming off an injury that brass obviously believes is not ready to come in and start
Broncos give up their first-rounder for a second-round pick?
That’s dumb.
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Just because...
we have guys that “can” start at certain positions doesn’t make them good.
Delmas has huge upside, more than Rey.
While we probably could've done better
i think there’s been worse moves made today- DHB at #7, Green bay giving up the farm for Clay Matthews, this new Broncos trade
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Now Al Davis actually looks smart
Darrius Heyward-Bey looks like a safe pick after all these draft happenings
for those who know
how solid is uconns beatty? do we trade up for him?
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
I'm glad you enjoy Eisen
As much as I do – seeing the gamut of analysts, he consistently provides engaging conversation, and he’s damn funny too.
I suspect as much
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really curious as to how Reyma fell this far?
Obviously the teams knew something the general public and media didn’t
both MLB available to us at both #20, and #33
and we didnt take one…wow
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
all we need
is a guy to help close the middle and defend the pass. We could find him in later rounds. We have too many holes to be absolutely solid at LB
yep
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of us have been rooting for lower round MLB's
Personally, I like Ellerbe, there’s also Brinkley, McKillop and Beckwith, it’s not like we are gonna miss out entirely
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this year?
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
we just get our info from the analyst on TV or youtube clips...
can’t be that hard on yourself. It’s always like this. I wrote a post about this awhile back about the expectations built up by the analysts about the wrong players. I may post it again after the draft….
Possible
None of us looked at Pettigrew
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a Long-Term Plan...
It’s simple… draft the best player at a position you need.
Stafford.. .best QB
Pettigrew… best TE
Delmas… best S
Stafford.. .best QB
Pettigrew… best TE
Delmas… best S3 guys we think can be starters longterm. Why take the 8th best OL, or 4th LB just because we need one?
Stafford.. .best QB
Pettigrew… best TE
Delmas… best S3 guys we think can be starters longterm. Why take the 8th best OL, or 4th LB just because we need one?We aren’t gonna be great for a while, lets build with some BPA at different positions.
I guess
We shoulda payed more attention when Schwartz said best available and not need was how they were drafting
true
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I know we were rebuilding but...
What were doing is tearing out the foundation and starting over from scratch
Looks like they can do both of their picks within the second time frame
Because they have both picks back to back?
Weird.
patriots on fire again
man how nice would it be to live in new england?
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
two great picks by NE
"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx
I've liked NE
Since before they were cocky. I don’t mind NE doing well since they don’t play the Lions more than once every 4 years.
The Lions have to find a starting MLB
in the 3rd round. Hey, NorthLeft. McKillop is starting to look good.
but josh mcdaniels and mangienie look like tools
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
so
Why did we grab a Safety? Why not a CB? I would think that we have a bigger need at CB than S?
WHY?!?!?! Oh god, Why!?!?!
Personally, I would've grabbed Darius Butler
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to hammer in a for sale sign out side ford field tonight
by msivits on Apr 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So what is more surprising?
Stafford, Pettigrew, Delmas
or
Cherilus & Dizon
option 2
Both reaches, our picks this year aren’t reaches, just strange
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither...
They are both outrageously stupid drafts…
by damnitdamnitdamnit on Apr 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
They were just talking bout expecting Pettigrew drafted at 42 on NFL network
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
It’s something to cheer
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Done a good job then
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I forgot Everette Brown is still available
Talk about free falling.
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I can't argue with all three day 1 picks being best at their position
but it’s still kind of confusing as to who’s gonna block for us or tackle for us
My wife will get home and see the empty Jim Beam bottle
she won’t have to ask how the draft went : ) god bless her soul… I love her….
absolute is 30% of my blood chemestry right now
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
Is there
any hope we trade back into the 2nd round for Everette Brown? Too bad we dont have anything to offer.
no more tweeners
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
good work
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell yes second to last
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
This means I won the NCAA tourney pool and the mock draft contest
Nice
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So anyways..
So far I think our defense has actually gotten worse since last year haha
That coke machine was amazing player
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That is positive
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well we lost Bodden
Who probably would have been solid in our D( – ), traded Redding for Peterson (=), and basically traded Lenon for Henry ( = )
im on record for 3-13
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
Pat White in the Wildcat he is gonna actually work out
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
I knew that was coming
Only the original wildcat team was going to take a roll on this kid
he’s perfect for it
The way things are going..
we should move into the 2nd round, just to trade it for a 1st rounder next year… what are GM’s thinking??
So here's a question
Since I know that what I want will NEVER happen, what would you think if we get (one way or another) Clint Sintim?
I watched him a lot in college… Super balanced, versatile LB…
Good move better then anything we got back there now
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.freep.com/article/20090424/SPORTS01/904240343/1049/rss14
article from the 24th … freep called it
Tight end has been a big part of offensive coordinator Scott Linehan’s system. The last time Linehan and quarterback Daunte Culpepper were together, in 2004 with Minnesota, Culpepper threw for 4,754 yards. Who led the Vikings in catches that year? Tight end Jermaine Wiggins, with 71.
Linehan uses two tight end sets and likes versatile players.
“You’re going to be asked to do a lot: play the fullback, play the tight end, play on the line of scrimmage, play in the backfield and play downfield, too,” tight end Casey Fitzsimmons said.
But players who can do all that are hard to find. “Typically what happens in the NFL is you have more niche players: the blocking tight end, the pass receiving tight end, things like that,” Schwartz said.
So with NE getting all these picks there gonna have to make some tough cuts come training camp and that means good players the Lions can get. Is that too optimistic
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions
At least we're not the Raiders, right?
Although they did win last year.
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Nice stat from today
There have been well over 3,000 new comments on POD today. That is awesome.
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Im happy for one reason
That our people in the division are making mostly offensive moves sept for packers who got Raji
by Liontotheextreme on Apr 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
Did anyone read the article I linked above?
Linehan is big on TE’s it looks like and they even hinted at the pick in the article..
I'm gonna go grab some food guys
I will be back if the Lions do something. If not, look for a day one wrap-up thread later tonight.
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Looking forward to it
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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 25, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Go Tigers
Just went up 6-0 on KC. What’s left for the Lions to do today except to trade up?
I think Broncos still felt dirty about the Cutler ordeal
so they needed to take a McBath.
- Ba dum shish *
One quick thing I want to mention
The guy the Raiders drafted was projected to be a free agent by Mel Kiper. 73rd safety. They are dumb.
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Tigers Piling On
Now it’s 8-0 over KC. At least somebody’s winning their game tonight!
they were before last year, just had an off year
reloading
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
we are dying out here
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
So let me pose a question...
They got me thinking with all the talk earlier about our lackluster running game… Do any of you think we actually need an upgrade at RB? Obviously all of the analysts believe so, but I like Kevin Smith..any thoughts?
no KSmith and Morice are solid as are the FB we got
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I thought too..
So what is with all of the analysts trash talking our running game? It really made me mad.. and i’m still pissed Stafford didn’t stand up for Kevin Smith..
Because technically it wasn't very good last year - stats wise
We ranked close to last again. But they didn’t watch any games, so they just go by stats alone. They didn’t see Smith get better as the season went on. Typical.
It just seems like if you are going to be on TV running your mouth..
you should have to have a clue what the hell you are talking about..
Quarterback Drafts
With Eli Manning drafted in 2004, does that mean the Lions will be in the Super Bowl in 2013?
Kiper just said
that Sanchez was the first round QB guaranteed not to be a bust.
I don’t like to say this, but seriously, F#@K you, Kiper.
He's predicting Matt Stafford #1 for YEARS now, and he's all of a sudden all about Sanchez?!?!?!
Mel, you suck
I was just listening to him.
He said very specifically that. Freeman was boom or bust, Stafford could be a bust, and Sanchez definitely wasn’t going to be a bust.
He said, when asked.
“you know who nobody would say was going to be a bust out of that group? Sanchez”
There goes Staffords personal wide out
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think they trade up..
If they were going to I think they would have done it earlier
way better
he has a new wide out. They should put a picture of CJ in his locker and say “throw it to this guy”
NFL Prima Donna
Oh great. Jerry Jones in the war room. Big whoop. Why weren’t they showing the genius’ in our war room in Allen Park with the #1 pick?
So at this point.. we got Pettigrew for Roy
and something else.. maybe a MLB or DT…
Jerry forgot it was his pick he was sleeping
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
Lions asleep again
So how long have we been looking for a LG? What are they doing in there?
So there are two hours left?
Are we sure it stops at the end of the second?
by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 25, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions
I'd say we'll have a good idea who the lions will pick with a night to sleep on it.
but we’ll never guess what the lions are thinking. Ever.
Michael Johnson
wasnt he a top prospect early on? Was his season THAT bad?
The top player availble in their positions are FB K and P. Other then that were out of top rated positions
by Curse of Bobby Layne 50 Years Strong on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
moala gone damnit
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
not much left to see
the day is almost over… its been a long day.. how many hours have we been on here ? haha
After today who knows what the Lions do tomorrow
by Runnin' Rebel on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
liquer taking effect
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
Only a few picks left and I gotta get my son to sleep, so...
signing off for the night. Take care guys and thanks for the fun day today. I needed it!
NE is re-tooling in 2nd rnd love the picks they made
by Runnin' Rebel on Apr 25, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
Day 1 almost over.. and i'm very happy with it
we swung for the fences while filling needs. Stafford has bigtime potential, Delmas could be a bob sanders type, and Pettigrew is gonna be mr consistent for years to come.
My prediction for tomorrow
Schwartz has said he wants a thumper at MLB.
So in round 3 he drafts a freakin rabbit. That’s about all thats left.
Those guys are giddy
after all evening doing draft coverage. It’s the big giant head. They must have just brought in the booze.
"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx
It was so nice watching the draft on the NFL Network
NO KIPER or Berman. Very good coverage.
"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx
Much better than ESPN...
except my reception just cut out at the last pick… can you tell me who it was?
TE Richard Quinn, UNC
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I'll put up a recap of today in the next hour
And I’ll let discussion take you guys into the night.
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Maybe a notes post tomorrow
I’ll probably wait to really get into the picks until later next week though.
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sean you have your exams yet?
i graduated last april from michigan
by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
Had one on Thursday and one on Friday
Have one more on Tuesday and I’m done.
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by Sean Yuille on Apr 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Long day
I doubt I’ll get to watch any of it tomorrow. Hopefully I’ll see the 3-1 before I head to church with my Cub Scouts. Award day tomorrow. Have a good one guys.
"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx
I'm happy with today overall.
I just wrote 2 reasons why we didn’t draft Rey Maualuga
by Detroit4lyfe on Apr 25, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
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