Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda
by TitanRob on Apr 25, 2009 10:57 PM EDT
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The Lions should have come out of day one of this draft with the following players:
QB - Matthew Stafford
OT - Michael Oher
LB - James Laurinatus
This would have given the Lions a franchise QB, a bookend Left Tackle and a defensive leader. TE is just a luxury the Lions could not afford and he will probably have to stay in and block anyway to help incumbent Left Tackle Jeff Backus. I'm not as upset with Delmas over Laurinatus because he will be the leader of the defense, but I think the Lions will pay for years to come by not jumping on the franchise Left Tackle when they had a chance.
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This 1st day was still graded....
……A…….Great picks today.
by BennieBladesFan on Apr 25, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GRADE D
Today is a sad day. I give the idiot lions a D-. Once again we have the chance to draft smart and talented players and decide not to
by Will it ever end? on Apr 26, 2009 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not true
Neither of the guys we passed on (I’m assuming you’re talking about Maualuga and Oher) are particularly smart. And they’re not more talented than Delmas or Pettigrew. You can say that they passed on players who filled their needs, but they didn’t miss a chance to draft smart or talented players. They got smart players and they got talented players. Just not the ones you wanted.
by sgdbw90 on Apr 26, 2009 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am warming up to the Pettigrew pick
Especially if in fact he has Jason Witten’s skillset…..but Delmas at 33 will never be a good pick in my opinion, when Laurinaitis was available and we have no MLB at all. Jordan Dizon can not play MLB in the NFL, so who will be our guy there? A rookie that we drafted in the 4th or 6th round?
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It all makes sense to
make the OT pick and MLB pick.
But getting Delmas and Pettigrew gets 2 players, FOOTBALL players, that you wanted when you wanted Curry so bad. Pettigrew has the chance to be an elite TE, something that will help Stafford immensely. Him and Megatron are incredible weapons.
Yea you want to protect Stafford, but if he has weapons like this that allow him to get the ball out quicker, then that helps too.
Delmas has the ability to be the QB of the defense. Schwartz defense had Chris Hope, who was the QB of the defense, not the MLB. So this is his pick.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 25, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Delmas (Dumas) is the QB of the short bus
He scored a 6…..yes a 6…..on the Wonderlic. We are F’ed in the A if he is our defensive leader.
by KDawg on Apr 25, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another test that's a crock of
shit. I wonder what Bob Sanders and Chris Hope scored on the test.
Will they be answering 50 questions in 12 minutes on their favorite color during a NFL game???
You believe in the Wonderlic test, for a non QB for that matter it doesn’t make sense.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 25, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Wonderlic Test
Is a standard IQ test, you know, something that shows how INTELLIGENT you are…..what is a crock of shit is the fact that everyone is trying to be all happy and supportive when Millen could have drafted better. Just like the idea of the bench press at the combine, and the stopwatch for speed, the Wonderlic is used in conjunction with the other drills and tests to see how compatible a player will be in the NFL. There is no excuse for scoring a 6 on the test, outside of pure lack of interest. I could get higher than a 6 with my eyes closed. This guy would be lucky if he even knows how to peel a banana, let alone dress himself and play football. Not to mention the fact that he comes from a MAC team, which I happen to have a great deal of knowledge about. I lived in Mt. Pleasant, home of the Central Michigan University Chippewas of the MAC. Central/Western weekend was sure to be a RIOT every single year. If you want to compare MAC teams and their players to ANY Big 10 team outside of Indiana, you can easily see that the talent level of MAC players is significantly lower than players in the Big 10. Louis Delmas would not even be the third string safety at Michigan, and you can take that to the BANK. For one thing, he couldn’t even pass the entrance exam, let alone make the team. For another thing, that is most likely why he was a player at Western Michigan University…..because he couldn’t hack it, academically or physically, at a real DIV 1 school. If he could, he would have already been there.
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The idea that Delmas playing at a MAC school
makes him an inferior player is absurd. Good players never come from smaller schools? What a ridiculous crock. I get it, you’re angry. Good for you. We’re all happy to read your rants. But seriously? This was the highest rated safety by a lot of sources, Scouts Inc among them. You legitimately think you, the eminently knowledgeable KDawg know more about what makes an NFL Caliber safety than NFL scouts? Tons of good players come from smaller schools, and Delmas was the best safety avaliable. 6 on the wonderlic or 60, the guy is a playmaker that a lot of teams coveted.
by Trysdor on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Ben Roethlisberger played for a MAC school, he's turned out alright
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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Ben
Did not score a SIX on the WONDERLIC!!!!
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And get a clue dude (Trysdor)
I do not care if this guy is the next Ronnie Lott…….the fact of the matter is that NOBODY knows if he will be good at the pro level, including NFL scouts. I merely wish that the Lions would have drafted guys in the positions that we needed the most. They were available. You can’t tell me that Delmas is a better prospect than Rey Maualuga or James Laurinaitis….two guys that would have filled a need on our team, and not just been picked because they were the BPA (and I do not feel that Delmas WAS the BPA at 33 anyway!). No, I do not think that I know better than NFL scouts….but I do know that the best two MLB’s in the draft were also available at 33, and we had a NEED for MLB. I think it is a crock that we would draft a player like Delmas, in a position that we were doing ok at, when we have no starter at MLB and BOTH guys that we all discussed at pick 20 were still on the board at 33…..period
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know where you got your information
but Delmas got a 12 on the Wonderlic. It’s in a number of sources, I could post them, but you’re welcome to google them. I didn’t find a single link about him getting a six. Show me one, would you? And your boy, Maualuga? 15 on the Wonderlic. Obviously not meant to be a QB on the defense. Nobody knows who will be good, but scouts have a heck of a lot better idea than you do. You know where almost all the information you have on Delmas came from? Scouts! The people who’s opinions you obviously have no faith in. Where did your most of your information Maualuga comes from? Laurinaitis? Scouts! You’ve put THEIR opinions into your head, and formed your own “opinion.” No doubt they would have filled a bigger need than Delmas, but it’s foolish to think safety wasn’t a need. The Lions know more about the state of their roster than you do. Alexander and Bullocks are both major injury concerns, and both are less than impressive. Obviously there was something seriously wrong with Maualuga, he wouldn’t have fallen so far, would he? It’s not like as soon as the Lions passed, teams jumped right on him. I feel like Laurinitis is a comparable prospect to Delmas, and it’s not as though OSU’s stud MLBs have a very good track record. I think you can make a very strong case that Delmas was both a position of need AND the best player available. Both guys WE the fans discussed at 20 were avaliable. We the fans aren’t that smart. We think we are, but we aren’t. Our opinions aren’t based on game film, aren’t based on years of expereince. They’re based on pre-packed opinions the media has fed us. Based on what were we doing ok at safety? The zero interceptions? All the passing yards we surrendered? The Lions have needs everywhere but WR1, and taking the very best player on the Lions board is absolutely the smartest thing for the Lions to do. I’ve got plenty of clues, buddy. I’ll let you borrow one if you ask real nice.
by Trysdor on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep....sorry....
you know everything…..where have you been all of my life lord?
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fact is
You have no idea who I am or what I do. You don’t have a clue who you are talking to, and therefore you also have no clue as to where my info comes from or where I formulated my opinions from. I read that Delmas scored a 6 on the Wonderlic, I’ll give you that much…..6 or 12 still doesn’t mean shit because it is pretty bad. Also, my “boy” was James Laurinaitis, and you can ask anyone here who has been here long enough to read posts for more than a couple of days. I know of another OSU MLB in particular that I liked alot, maybe you’ve heard of him…..Chris Spielman. James L reminds me of him and even Stephen Boyd. You can run your mouth all you want pal…..you won’t convince me that Delmas is close to equal in talent or upside than James Laurinaitis. In fact, I know better. I have seen them both play. That is besides the fact that these “scouts” that you speak of (for the Lions) are the same guys who have failed us for the last 8 years. I formulated my own opinion based on what I saw from actual games that I watched of these two players in action. Louis Delmas is not the answer for our defense. He might be as good as Bullocks or Alexander, but I seriously doubt it. We gave up a ton of passing yards because we had NO cornerbacks and NO MLB that could play in coverage. Plus we were utilizing the soft as hell Tampa 2 on defense. It had nothing to do with our safties, but rather how they were utilized. I also challenge you to name me ONE single guy that the Lions have drafted from a small school that has been successful. I can’t think of one. Felton (Furman) John Taylor (Montana State), Kevin Smith (McNeese St), Johhny Baldwin (Alabama A&M)?? Not a single one. I sincerely hope that Delmas is the MAN…..I sincerely hope that he proves me wrong. But my opinion comes from MY own research, not that of any scout. The scouts I have read info about Delmas from are all spouting the same shit YOU are, and just like them, you don’t know wtf you are talking about.
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think your a tad harsh on Delmas
You seem to think he’ll have little impact and I can’t undertsand why, you have only brought up his lack of tested intelligence, which I don’t think will be a huge issue. Smart guys aren’t always successful. If you please KDawg, could you give me some of your opinions on why Delmas will not be as good as our current safeties?
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 26, 2009 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE
Not only have I seen Louis Delmas play, but also I understand WHERE he is coming from. The Western Michigan University Broncos are not a team that produces NFL players on a consistent basis. I am not the only person that thinks that Delmas was a reach at 33. Mitch Album (from the Detroit Free Press) had this to say, “The third pick, I don’t get. If the Lions really thought Louis Delmas of Western Michigan was that good, was there a danger of him not being around a little later? Especially when players from big programs like Rey Maualuga or James Laurinaitis were still there. I know the secondary is terrible, but so is the rest of the defense. A linebacker is an anchor, a face. Who is the face of the Lions’ defense right now? A paper bag? Maybe it’s having been here for nearly three decades and having seen the Lions pick wrong on the secondary over and over, but this was a reach to me, and the first real risk of Jim Schwartz’s tenure”. (That is not the whole article Sean….lol). http://www.freep.com/article/20090425/COL01/90425048
I will admit, I was angry and more than slightly intoxicated when I was posting last night, but that did not change my opinion then, and it isn’t changing my opinion now. Delmas would have been there at pick 65 and it is possible that he would have been there at 82. There are only 3 active players in the NFL that came from WMU, and NONE of them are defensive backs. WR Greg Jennings, TE Tony Scheffler, and DE Jason Babin. In the last 16 years there has been 8 players that came into the NFL from WMU. FOUR of them played 2 years or less (yes, that is 4 busts (or career ending injuries) of 8 players). Tom Nutten (Starting LG for the Rams during the SB years) played for 7 years and was very good. Joel Smeenge (DE/LB for New Orleans and Jacksonville) played for 10 years and was pretty good for 6 of them. Tony Scheffler and Greg Jennings are the other 2, and we all know that Jennings is pretty awesome. None of them, not even one, was a defensive back. As a matter of fact, in the entire history of Western Michigan University, ony ONE player has EVER came into the NFL out of WMU as a defensive back. The Legendary Vern Davis played THREE games for Philadephia in 1971. To tell you the truth HE, I could go on and on and on……but I think my point has been made.
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delmas would not have lasted till #65
Schwartz said in the press conference that he got 10 calls from other teams telling him that they stole their guy so Delmas would not have lasted.
While I understand your hesitation,coming from WMU does not mean this kid cannot succeed. You aready pointed out that players have succeeded coming from WMU so why can’t Delmas? He’s considered the top safety on the majority of prospect rankings and I think will be a big help. Your free to your opinion KDawg, but I would prefer some quantifiable evidence on why this kid won’t be good, instead of he came from said college so he won’t be good. You said you’ve seen him play, tell me what you seen that was so bad.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 26, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looked good
But my problem was his level of competition. Who does WMU play that warrants calling their safety the best in the draft…..that is where I am coming from. I do not mean to make it sound like I think he can not be successful at the next level, but rather just that I am concerned that he will struggle with real and professional competition.
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got one for yeah
Lemuel Jackson Barney, CB/S Jasckson St. 2 round 34th pick Hall of Famer. I thought I would throw him at you. Given the whole Delmas thing.
by JCruize on Apr 26, 2009 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol....HAHAHAHAHAHA
40 years ago? 50? Sorry guys…..Louis Delmas is no Lem Barney….LMAO
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol you asked
for one. That was the best I could do.
by JCruize on Apr 26, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You did a great job in that attempt JCruize
I was not even thinking as far back as Lem Barney…..good work….you got me….lol.
by KDawg on Apr 27, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
means nothing
THe wonderlic test mean absolutely nothing about how a player plays on the field. I dont know about you, but this is a football team not a robotics team. He will do fine
by hate2lovelions on Apr 26, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh really??
So a players intelligence has no sort of influence on how well they play the game of football huh?? Ask the Patriots how well players with less than average intelligence, such as Katzenmoyer (perfect example), pan out for them, and how good they are at making on field decisions. Ask them how easily they learn their complex systems and how well they understand their role within them. Consider a poor wonderlic score as a red flag for guys that might not make the best of decisions on the field (and even off the field).
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isnt Delmas the guy that tried to punt a bowling ball and broke his ankle as a freshman?
right there says hes not too bright
by thunder_god08 on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
im pretty sure that was just a rumor
by hate2lovelions on Apr 26, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TitanRob....
They drafted Talent, not position…. just like they said they would do.
by CLF on Apr 25, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Are you actually going to sit there and say that Louis Delmas is a better prospect than Vontae Davis, James Laurinaitis, or Rey Maualuga? BULLSH**!!!
Brandon Pettigrew at pick 20?!?!?! Guys, I know you want to show support for our team, but for Christ’s sake don’t stick your head in the sand like a damn Osterich and don;t blindly follow like sheep. We NEED a MLB!!!! I am sorry, but anyone who thinks that Clint Sintim, Jasper Brinkley, or Scott McKillop are of the same mold and caliber of Maualuga or Laurinaitis, you need professional help. If they were, THEY would have been picked already, not the other two! We have a TE…..is it really going to make that much of a difference that we got the “best” TE prospect in THIS draft?? Again, we have NO MLB!! Is there anyone out there who can make an intelligent argument that our biggest needs (after drafting Stafford #1) were not offensive line and MLB?? You mean to tell me that it was so important that we drafted the best TE and S of THIS draft, when we could have had one of the better LT’s (Oher) or CB’s (Davis) at 20 and one of the top 2 MLB’s at 33?? I have to say that I am extremely disappointed, once again, and while I most sincerely hope that it works out for the best, I currently do not see it happening.
by KDawg on Apr 25, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were told they were going to take talent over need
I agree that we need an MLB, CB and a whole lot else, but we picked the best player on our board, that’s how you draft, I got no problems as long as they take a MLB in the next round.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said it in a different thread
And I will say it again…..IF we take Duke Robinson at 65 and Scott McKillop at 82…..MAYBE just maybe we can salvage this draft.
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The draft was very good
just cuz they didn’t get """YOUR"""" players, means nothing.
Pettigrew, like Jason Witten, can make an average to below average O-Line into a very good one. I
I know your gonna say the Cowgirls have Pro-Bowlers on the O-Line, but that’s mostly voting and most people that have 1/8 of a brain have no idea who to vote for, so they vote for the Cowgirls.
An elite blocking TE and Receiving guy like Pettigrew is rare. I remeber sayin that an elite OG can help out the tackles, well and elite blocking TE can help out the tackles, QB and RB too.
None wasted picks. I thought it was a great draft. Damn what mock drafters think, no one is a scout. Experts are not taht either.
If the Lions drafted DHB or a guy that was rated as an UFA in round 2 that would be bad. Or maybe a OT that is a flake at #6 and a 2-down MLB in round 2….
THe Bengals and the Raiders had bad days whether they know it or not, the Lions had a good day.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
That was about the most intelligent argument I have ever seen. Just keep spewing your opinion with no facts to back them up. The Bengals have had an amazing draft so far, but I agree that the Raiders are even dumber than the Lions.
If you would stop and take a moment to think about what I said before you just started running your mouth FB, you would see that I do not think that Stafford, Pettigrew, or dare I say even Delmas, will be bad players in the NFL. I actually HOPE that they end up being great players, and God knows we need them to be. I DO, however, feel we had players that were just as good as the players we picked, who were available and would have been useful in filling a NEED on the team. We still have NO MLB…..and with the Lions first 3rd rounder, they take an OLB from Wisconsin? Duke Robinson is on the board at 65, we trade down, he is STILL there when our pick comes up and we take an OLB…..sigh.
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
We really needed that WR from Penn State too didn’t we…..
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what Kdawg....
Instead of sitting there pouting like a little bitch, why don’t you factually make your case that these picks are crap…. Or do you just like bad mouthing people when you don’t get your way?
Go Home Cry baby.
by CLF on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did make my case
And I am at home pal…..I was DEFENDING myself anyway so what business is it of yours? Why don’t you mind your own business and keep your lips closed instead of flapping your dickbeaters like a bitch? I have never had a problem with you, and I have never done anything to draw this type of response from you. So take your aggression out on your dog or something, because I ain’t your bitch.
by KDawg on Apr 27, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duke Slipped to th 6th
cuz he false starts too much.
If you had your way you would have had bust after bust after bust.
And since I like pissing you off, The Giants had an absolutely incredible draft.
They even drafted the next Brandon Marshall….
I always think, but maybe you should…..
For most of you Lions fans, I hope these guys are good. But for you KDOG, I hope that Stafford is the biggest bust in the history of sports.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations
I am very happy that you are happy with your teams draft…..:o)
I like that you like pissing me off…..do you know why? Because I HATE the New York Giants and every single player that has ever stepped foot on their field. We are enemies, and for the love of God I can not figure out why you are even here. By the way, you know as well as I do that Stafford will only bust if the Lions do not protect him. I just feel that they could have waited for their franchise QB, as I have said all along.
by KDawg on Apr 27, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Getting Rey Ma was smart
as probably was not getting Lauranitis.
Rey Ma was a guy with the wheels running and no one behind the wheel most of the time. Not good for a MLB.
Delmas was the best rated safety in the draft, the Wonderlic be damed.
Getting a MLB high in the draft is nice, but unnecessary
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2009 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rey
It would suck to see Rey get burned in coverage as much as Lenon does. Why draft him if he is only a two down player when thats not what we are looking for
by hate2lovelions on Apr 26, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
disagree
How many games have we lost because we can’t cover a good tight end? I can think of alot. Actually the guy we drafted blocks like a tackle which is rare. In fact, it was the only pick I liked so far. Remember, the second day is important too. We need to to make it happen in the third round with two picks.
by lions09 on Apr 25, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guess what?
The MLB is the one responsible for covering the TE over the middle in a 4-3 defense…..bet on it.
by KDawg on Apr 26, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your wrong
The OLB’s can cover the TE too. It depends on the scheme. ANd if you wanted Rey Ma or Lauranitis they both SUCK in coverage.
Rey was a guy taht you take out on passing downs…….bet on that.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O.K We took Stafford
I can see that. But a TE over OHER? Backus moves to guard, and there is no need to draft one. two birds, one stone. Delmas over JL? we have no MLB. Did we not pick up Defensive Back help in free agency? I agree with KDawg, Hope it works out for the best, but I truly believe it could have been a lot better.
by Lead Hunter on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
relax guys!
duke robinson at 65 and a MLB at the other 3rd round pick will make this a great draft
NFL-Lions,Vikings,Texans,Bills
MLB-Rays,Twins,Marlins,Reds
NBA-T-Wolves,Cavliiers,Warriors,Bobcats
NHL-Wild,Penguins
NCAA-Gophers,Gators,Longhorns,Fighting Irish
all in the order in which i root for 1st
by RaysOfHope on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely...
but the way this draft is going that will not happen, but we can still hope, just like every year.
by damnitdamnitdamnit on Apr 26, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No faith in the coaches
Don’t panic not every good LB is picked in the first two rounds. I can only expect Schwartz wants Delmas to lead his defense and he has some idea of a player that he thinks he can coach and has what it takes to play in his defense. We have been burned by bad picks before but we need some hope. Forcing picks never helps.
by momentumchange on Apr 26, 2009 3:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You forget (or didn't know)
Next year’s draft class has several excellent tackles. Oher would have been solid, but there will be a guy at least as good as him available next year, and probably one with fewer question marks (Oher is no sure thing). Good tackles can start from day 1, and Stafford isn’t playing this year anyway, so it doesn’t matter so much if they have a solid OT this year.
Here’s a link for next year’s class:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2010
by sgdbw90 on Apr 26, 2009 3:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I agree that this year sets us up to draft an OT, DT and CB next year to complete out team. After this year its gonna take a couple years to get back on our feet.
by hate2lovelions on Apr 26, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too be honest..
Not my perfect draft but there is hope left and I think the Lions will draft a guard and MLB with thier 3rd rounders (robinson and ellerbe or mckillop)
by shanndiggit on Apr 26, 2009 4:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about we wait
an see these guys play then knock them.I dont know about you guys but im ready for preseason..
by zeke313 on Apr 26, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also ready
I wanna see our new team on the field…
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 26, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
franchise left tackle
how do u call oher a franchise left tackle hes the 4th or 5th best tackle in this years draft depending on who you talk to. That makes him the 20th best tackle in the last 5 years so there are 15-20 better tackles in the nfl better than him drafted in just the last 5 years not to mention the veterans which there are probably about 7-10 veterans better than him where as pettigrew is the best tightend in the draft and possibly could be one of the 10 best tight ends in the league by the end of next year ill take that over the oher any day
by Detroithbaked24 on Apr 27, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
I have to agree. Pettigrew was a better pick than Oher, who was projected as a RT or even G in the NFL. I am not so sure that Vontae Davis would not have been a better pick at 20 though, as I am unsure that Anthony Henry has the speed to play cornerback anymore. Schwartz is content with our corners though, so I will just wait and see.
by KDawg on Apr 27, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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