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2009 NFL Draft Open Thread - Rounds Four & Five

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 DT
 Stillman

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At least We got a 4th

I mean as many players as we can help can make an impact and 7th rounders could start over some guys haha

by Liontotheextreme on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Staff on NFLN

In like 5 minutes

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Stafford coming up on NFLN

Is he wearing the same suit as yesterday?

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you look at our last 4 drafts or more..

Half the picks aren’t even on the team anymore, or aren’t worthy of starting / even being backups..

So I mean it’s not like we can really get worse.. we’ve gotten about 1 starter / consistent player per draft for the last 8 years haha..

by MatthewDC on Apr 26, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's pretty unneccesary

I think Kevin and the rest of the squad know that they are considered to be bottom-dwellers, even if they’re not

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know

But that doesn’t mean the new leader of our team needs to go apologize on behalf of Deion

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deion is just a big dbag

That interview with Crabtree was one of the most unclassy things I’ve ever seen.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

McGee

Is hit or miss – A lot of analysts liked him as a sleeper though

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

their not happy with Kitna??

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

+1, that just made my day

by handsomerob1 on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have definatley gotten 2 day 1 starters....

in pettigrew and delmas, MLB just keep falling and Terrence Tayler is still avaialable so lets hope these picks start making sense

by thePROD1GY on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A&M boy

gotta be stoked to be a cowboy

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

id hire him

say what you want about the guy, hes a good coach

"Sometimes Joe (morgan) doesn't like facts to get in the way of his opinions."- billy beane
"That was a great pick...if this was 2002" Me, to guy who selected Barry Zito in a fantasy draft
www.27ClubPeak.blogspot.com

by harendaman365 on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is a good coach

I have faith in The Schwartz right now.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Taylor keep dropping...

I don’t know if he’ll reach down to 115, but he might…

by ZWC11 on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah what was that?

We’re they going to interview him or something?

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they are right now

He was sitting there thinking what is going on. Why are they laughing?

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Asante Samuel

All he does is make picks and returns em for six.

Damn that was clever

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was on ESPN

Idk one of the analysts said it, I’m not really watching

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really jealous

Of the SeaChickens… got the draft I wanted…

Curry and Unger… The Detroit draft that could have been

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice pick

Browns doing well too… Took another Hawaian

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like T.J. Lang

For OL help… especially since our FO seems to want to take anyone from the state of Michigan

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NICE

Coughlin says he’s trying to get Gruden a job by saying he’s doing an A+ broadcasting job

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And he's 6-0 against Gruden in his career

Lol. Gruden is pretty funny.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised

We haven’t drafted a DT yet. Schwartz loves his big space-eating guys and we havn’t picked up anybody resembling that yet. Maybe he likes Fluellen

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they just did that again

u should have seen eisein it was halarious

LIONS

by lions4life on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did

It was great.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best part of the draft so far for me

Since we didn’t get one guy I wanted

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you!

I was planning on finding that and bookmarking it… just saved me the trouble

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

two guys that we expected to take in the 3rd round are still available duke robinson and mililkop

LIONS

by lions4life on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm done making predictions or hopes for who we pick

It’ll probably be someone I wouldn’t expect anyways.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad Marshall Faulk left

He’s one guy I don’t like… alot of these ex stud NFL players are jackasses in the booth. Faulk is a know it all

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Woulda been funny

If Millen was doing analysis. Awkwaaarrrddd

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If we take Take a MLB and take taylor by moving up or if he is still there in the 6th (doubt it)

I would feel like we did well..

But if we walk away with no MLB and no new DT, and we didn’t help the OL, I would feel like the draft as a whole was a let down..

by MatthewDC on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If we take MLB

Then Levy becomes a wasted pick

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Special teams too

I just have a problem taking a mostly special teams player before filling needs

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But why pick a project

When we have so many other needs? A team like New England can pick a project that early. We can’t

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best player available right now

Top at his position and still on the board:
Graham Gano, K

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Best On The Board Is Not A Kicker......

……Plus that doesnt work on a one player position….Geez.

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey

whoi doesn’t need 2 kickers?

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

O LINE OR DT HERE....

….WE GOT MLB in Levy already

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.....

……They brought him in on Friday….I dont think they wold have done that if they didnt think he could…..He can tackle too……thats what we need….SOMEONE WHO TACKLES!!!!

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sold on levy...

Theres no assurance that he can even play MLB.. you don’t take a position where you literally have not one person on your roster, and bank on a position changing rookie to fill it

by MatthewDC on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hes A Project.....

……Just like everyone lese whose left at MLB

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

There are still some solid prospects at MLB

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I thought Bennie meant left on our roster.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they brought Levy in to start

I will mutiny – You had a guy whos 10x better available @ 20 and 33 and you didn’t take him. Too little too late

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft On Talent.....

……Pettigrew and Delkmas are Much Better proispects…..DELMAS IS A FUTURE PRO BOWLER

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt

Delmas and Pettigrew are very good, but I’m just scratching my had at these Day 2 picks

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll hold you to the Delmas remark

Seeing as the guy has intelligence issues and is drafted to call the plays?

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our best bet i think

I heard someone mention Harris of the Steelers. I hope we can pry him away. Maybe a 2nd ro 3rd next year.

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

ESPN just said record number of Centers drafted in rd 1

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

nice..

C is an underrated position though. Good to see the big uglies getting love this year

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone is supporting that pick?

I even think Derrick Williams thinks it is a dumb pick

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That said

His return in that video is great. Not explosive speed, but some good vision and moves to get the job done.

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup....thats all that matters.....Vision is.......

…….Way UNDERTAED….Much more value then speed in my mind.

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I guess Duke Robinson is a project too

And soo is Terrance Taylor and everybody left too huh?

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Really.....

…..MLB was very very weak this year……Robinson is somewhat a project.

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB

Was weak in the 1st and 2nd rd. But it was deep in the middle rds. (Brinkley Ellerby etc) there was alot of quality guys available in the 3rd and 4th rd.

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if they weren't

do you think they’d be around in the 4th round?

by Boney on Apr 26, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its a matter....

……of strength at position…..No one left at MLB is someone that is like oh manI gota have……Just average players at that position.

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats what the late rounds are for.. half the starting MLB's in the league are average.

Our right now is invisible..

or if you count levy, our starting MLB is an OLB..

by MatthewDC on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That can play inside

……..More then 12 teams say he can play inside in the NFl….Not Just Detroit.

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is not true..

There are still plenty of MLB left who ACTUALLY played MLB. Switching positions is a project. The others may not be Rey Rey, but they are not projects. They would be much more prepared to start on day 1 than Levy.

by MatthewDC on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you won't start Stafford day 1

why start rookie at MLB day 1

by Boney on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's less of a learning curve

For MLB than there is for a QB, especially one without an O-Line.

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB is the QB of the defense

unless there’s a drop dead stud at MLB in the draft, why risk it

by Boney on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are just getting silly with some of these statements..

We have no MLB. We can start a rookie because it is an upgrade. I would much rather start a rookie who had played the position than one who had not. Period. End of argument.

by MatthewDC on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how is it end of argument

Dizon played MLB last year, why not play him then?

why is it silly? If you don’t draft Rey or James, there’s obviously no clear cut stud after those 2. They didn’t draft them, so why pick a MLB just for the sake of picking a MLB?

by Boney on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dizon has no shot at being a MLB

He was moved back to OLB at the end of last season and has been there ever since. Schwartz didn’t talk very highly of him.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ideally that wouldn't happen

Which is why I don’t understand why Bennie thinks Levy, an OLB in college, is going to start at MLB in the NFL. Makes no sense, no matter how bad the situation looks like right now.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

becasue he has the ability to.....

…..Did you see him play in college…..Guy isa tackler…….He will be fine inside

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing .....

….we didnt take curry and put insde…..that woilda been a project

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Did Levy......

…..Say him play at wisconsin……someone earlier said anyone changing positions in the NFl is a project….I was responding to that

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Darn

We were probably looking at him. He visited.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the cowboys have like 11 picks today

That has got to suck to be drafted by them. You know they are not going to end up with 11 rookies on their squad next year. Especially not 11 day two rookies. So you know that you have a worse chance of making the roster than if you got drafted by any other team in the NFL. That has got to suck.

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 more

Duke and Taylor available, as well as multiple MLBs

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Surprised

Every MLB is dropping this far, and yet we take an OLB to play MLB. Oh my beloved Lions

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Duke Robinson

by LeZevo on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We take an MLB

And convert to 3-4, it seems like everybody’s doing it

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to say DL

We’re not gonna draft another LB. (Watch as this turns out to be dead wrong lol)

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lol

I woudln’t mind converting to 3-4. I’ve always liked that defense better because it keeps the blitzing random and confuses quarterbacks

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say Oline

Because our defense can wait another couple rounds

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DUKE IS STILL THERE

time to make up for our obvious mistake in not taking him way earlier

by Boney on Apr 26, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would be ok with Moore...

I think he was a steal in the 3rd, although I am concerned by our lack of defensive picks

by thePROD1GY on Apr 26, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I say robinson

I hope it is Robinson

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PICK A PUNTER!!!

"Sometimes Joe (morgan) doesn't like facts to get in the way of his opinions."- billy beane
"That was a great pick...if this was 2002" Me, to guy who selected Barry Zito in a fantasy draft
www.27ClubPeak.blogspot.com

by harendaman365 on Apr 26, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can’t predict this one at all. Lions have surprised me so much

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sammie Lee HIll, DT, Stillman

"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx

by Jettero2112 on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

These commercials

on NFL are killing me

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SAMMIE LEE HILL

Finally a pick that makes sense

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who?

never heard of him or his college

by lionsfan22 on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NFL.com Profile

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/sammie%20lee-hill?id=79571

This dude sounds awesome!

“Hill is much more than your typical defensive lineman, though. He served as a tight end in goal-line blocking situations, where he scored on a 16-yard reception and also on a two-point conversion”

by Southpaw87 on Apr 26, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay!

Are we moving him to MLB?

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOVE THIS GUY!!!!!

6 3 335….SMALL COLLEGE GUY!!!!!

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 26, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, look at the Saints

Picked in the 1st and don’t pick again til now

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good pick

Wish I could say the same for the rest of the draft

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's a scouting report on Hill from Arrowhead Pride

LINK

I has a blog

"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx

by Jettero2112 on Apr 26, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Said to be the best...

‘small college’ DL in the draft. @329….he’s a big boy….lol with DE experience. I like it.

by CLF on Apr 26, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, finally fill a NEED

about time.

I has a blog

"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx

by Jettero2112 on Apr 26, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Owen Sixteen....

your “need” is talent.

by CLF on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOLY HELL, THEY FILLED A NEED!!!!!

Sorry for the all caps, just surprsed/excited.

by AZ Yooper on Apr 26, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

I actually like this pick. His bio looks pretty tight.

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Per Wikipedia

Stillman College (not to be confused with the fictional “Hillman College”) is a historically black liberal arts college founded in 1876 and located in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

atleast

 he was invited to the combine

by lionsfan22 on Apr 26, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN Scouts Inc. Profile of Sammie Lee Hill

2008: Hill starts all 11games recording 59 total tackles, 19 tackles-for-loss, 7.5 sacks, seven passes defended and one forced fumble. Good height, excellent bulk and above-average top-end speed for size. Durability is not a concern to our knowledge. Helped pull a man out of a burning house in August of 2007. Lined up at defensive end in 2008 and willing to play on the inside and/or the outside.

by Stones1981 on Apr 26, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

workout warrior

he’s going to be a bust like Gholston was

by Boney on Apr 26, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except

He wasn’t playing for OSU

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sarcasm...

everyone’s so TENSE today

by Boney on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't worry guys..

he is just trying to irk me becuase of our debate earlier.

by shanndiggit on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NFL.com:
Compares To: SHAUN ROGERS, Cleveland — Hill has the potential to be much more consistent than Rogers, but will just need time to adjust to NFL life from the low level of competition he played in. Hill flashes a burst to finish and shows effectiveness stopping the running game as a three-tech defender. He has a very strong anchor vs. the run and uses his hands well to cross over the offensive lineman’s face to make the play. He generates excellent leverage to stack at the point of attack. He has the quick, strong and active hands to split double teams and his long arms allow him to consistently push the pocket.

Nice…

"Sometimes Joe (morgan) doesn't like facts to get in the way of his opinions."- billy beane
"That was a great pick...if this was 2002" Me, to guy who selected Barry Zito in a fantasy draft
www.27ClubPeak.blogspot.com

by harendaman365 on Apr 26, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I read he played DE last year

because they didn’t want him to have to face nonstop double and triple teams.

by Trysdor on Apr 26, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Enjoy your afternoon folks

I hope the Lions fill more needs with the rest of the picks. I’m off to make a tee time. Later!

I has a blog

"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx

by Jettero2112 on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good luck

Mind the rough

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's a reach though

He was projected in the late rounds

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I see it as a Michael Johnson type decision

You have to take a gamble or miss out cuz we don’t have a 5th rounder, right?

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have a good day, gents.

I’ll probably be back in the sixth, but I’m off for a bit.

by AZ Yooper on Apr 26, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I'm off too

might drop in from time to time

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry guys...

But I still don’t understand the Deandre Levy pick, that one might be the worst to me, can someone please explain it to me, I have looked at his scouting reports and just don’t get it. Why didn’t we go best available OL?

by damnitdamnitdamnit on Apr 26, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i thought it was the worst pick

Until I saw us grab a WR a couple picks later.

The lions strive to surprise

by ATL Lion on Apr 26, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill story is up

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2009/4/26/854389/lions-draft-dt-sammie-lee-hill

This looks like a great pick. As posted in the story, one league source told PFT he could be a second-round pick.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what about

Javon Ringer, why not take him with our last pick if he’s there, change of pace to K Smith

by lionsfan22 on Apr 26, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind that in the 7th..

I think that Smith will be abused behind our horribly unimproved o-line

by damnitdamnitdamnit on Apr 26, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

54 more till were up again...

duke is till there, why not trade up?? hear anyyhing Sean?

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

last 4 picks

linebacker and 3 oline and hope something shakes out like a rose.

by lionsfan64 on Apr 26, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna go get some food

I’ll be back if anything happens, but I’m gonna probably take a break until the sixth-round.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just thought

These two on the same team? NIce

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i would still like to point out

guys that we wanted in the 3rd round like brinkley and millikop and taylor and robinson are all still on the board…. so who is wrong here us or all of the NFL scouts

LIONS

by lions4life on Apr 26, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our fifth round pick

has been held by 5 teams. That’s gotta be some sort of record.

by Trysdor on Apr 26, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Colts

Filled their biggest need with Maola and Taylor. Good pick for them

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hope your not watching mel kiper...bleh

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

francois still on the board

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

When will the 6th get here? I don’t really know any of the players there (unless these guys keep slipping) but it’ll be interesting to see if we FINALLY draft an O-Lineman

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey everyone

I was out last night and this morning but I just got back. Glad to see all of you have been keeping busy.

by sgdbw90 on Apr 26, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

weight, chararacter issues

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's getting to the point

Where some teams going to decide his physical abilities are worth the risk.

by Trysdor on Apr 26, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats what im thinking, sometimes a bit of reality wakes you up

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

strange how rescuing someone from a burning building = good character

when really it was just a freak circumstance that he happened to be there for. It’s not like bad boy Duke wouldn’t have done the same thing.

by sgdbw90 on Apr 26, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You kidding?

Duke would have started the fire and whizzed on the ashes

-NFL Scouts.

by Trysdor on Apr 26, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are they really playing Free Falling in Radio City?

Dick move to the players actually free falling.

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by Sean Yuille on Apr 26, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know it's a slippery slope, but...

I’d honestly rather have some questionable character guys who are going to freaking jack some dudes up

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've gotta assume

there’s going to be a run on tight ends eventually. A lot of good ones on the board, and this is around the time they tend to do.

by Trysdor on Apr 26, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

At least we know the lions aren’t going to join in on that run.

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fans booing

Bengals draft a punter.

Maybe if he was from the jail league the Bungles fans would be happy with it

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bengals jail shtick

is getting a little old

by Boney on Apr 26, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

seeing as 2 of their top picks were expended on players with “character issues” and were players other teams wouldn’t touch.

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still getting a little old

especially considering most of the contingent here wanted Rey to be the Lions middle linebacker

Rey’s “character” came into question in 2005… I’m sure most of us had character issues when we were 18

by Boney on Apr 26, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry

I didn’t mean to offend the Bengal’s history of fantastic drafting and FA acquisitions.. (cough Cedric Benson cough)

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone just asked Jamie Dukes

if he needed some more grilled KFC

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

....and Jamie Dukes says

that special teams players are special because they “ride the short bus”

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gruden seems to hold his tongue alot

too bad its not open mic night

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm starting to see

A Paris Lenon return…

And it’s looking better and better

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We'll see...

I still think Lenon would serve a hell of alot better in the middle than a rook

Especially with JP on the strong side

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if we really want a MLB

one of the names will be around at 6.1. But it should be clear that that isn’t something the Lions are going for, otherwise they would have taken Laurinitis at 33.

by sgdbw90 on Apr 26, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Most surprising pick in the entire draft:

Has to be the safety Mitchell going to the raiders in round 2, right? Any other thoughts?

by sgdbw90 on Apr 26, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

Heyward-Bey was a big reach, but he was supposed to go in the mid to late first round. Mitchell was the 73rd rated safety! There were 72 other safeties that ESPN thought were better. If you’re lucky to be signed as a undrafted free agent, and instead you go in the middle of round 2, i think that’s more surprising.

by sgdbw90 on Apr 26, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to see how

to build through the trenches, inside out or however you want to say it, look at the Ravens draft board.

by WBL on Apr 26, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ravens

Had the Draft the Lions should’ve had. OT first, then D-Line and a MLB in the middle rds then a TE in the 5th. Looked like how the Lions should’ve drafted

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was my thought looking at it.

2nd best D in the league last year. Lost a few guys (esp Scott, big loss) but they’re still building it. Priorities I guess.

by WBL on Apr 26, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maualuga's Freefall

was another surprise. As well as Duke Robinson’s and Jamon Meredith

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Forgot about that

Aaron Curry going to #4 was also a big surprise to me. I thought all the Tyson Jackson talk was garbage

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

175 i think

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if it's worth anything at this point

but the lions have to go OL with the next pick, right? How could they not? I guess, with our luck, they’ll take a QB to replace stanton.

by sgdbw90 on Apr 26, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Noooooooooo

Goodbye Brinkley :(

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damnit...

lets hope we can get McKillop with our 1st 6th and then Robinson with our 2nd 6th, to me that would be a good draft.

by lions_sucker on Apr 26, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nevermind...

hes gone, im dumb, this sucks.

by lions_sucker on Apr 26, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes lennon is still a fa!

ton of consistency in stopping the ball for a loss!!! nice

by londonlion on Apr 26, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's got talent. could be solid

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

vikes

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tigers up 2-0

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll tell you what though

I’m getting excited now that I can’t say Stafford might not come here

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pullin for the bulls

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There go the guys I was touting.......

McKillop, Devan drew, Brinkley,…..but look at who is left

Duke Robinson G, Mickens CB, Munnerlyn CB, Cadogan OT, Meredith OT/G, Tupou T; obviously there are things about some of these guys that they know that we don’t. However, maybe now they are worth a shot. I mean really, what fo we have to lose?

by NorthLeft12 on Apr 26, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have two draft guides

That say Duke is a 2nd round prospect. TAKE HIM.

I don’t care if he punches babies, if he doesn’t pan out, you cut him.

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still 20 picks to go though

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm Pullin for Meredith

I’ve seen him go as high as #40 to the Raiders

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fine as well

As long as it’s OL

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why draft a corner?

We got Delmas already let’s shift the focus to the trenches now

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh no....

Freeman goes to Chi-Town

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ingram to the eagles, mcnnab is happy

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How about...

Derry Beckwith and Duke Robinson in the 6th and then Dline/Oline in 7th.

by lions_sucker on Apr 26, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd be down

Or Macho Harris and Duke seeing as we’ve got our franchise MLB

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was referring to

Whoever the fuck it was we drafted – the OLB

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind

Macho goes to the Eggles…

They’ve got 17 corners now

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stafford in Madden, only a 79

http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/features/games/gallery?id=4099861&game=1

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he looks like the actor james franco

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cutler is more mobile than Staff

and doesn’t have as strong of an arm.

Strong, definitely, but not like Staff

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

yea not rivers

by zeke313 on Apr 26, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Series is over

I just want the offseason to happen

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know me

to we need to get a Big

by zeke313 on Apr 26, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Then we need to sign Boozer with all the cash we got check that starting lineup out.

C: Rookie
PF: Boozer
SF: Tay
SG: Hamilton
PG: Stuckey
6th: Maxi

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He just doesn't block shots

He plays decent defense though. It would be amazing if we somehow netted Hasheem Thabeet. That would be the perfect front court. I would trade Tay or Hamilton to get Thabeet. Imagine Thabeet on D and Boozer on O Damn. It’s alot easier to get an SF or SG than it is to get a Center

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would trade up

give up a couple of the 2nd round picks to get Thabeet. We shouldn’t need offensive if we get Boozer. I think that would put us back on the map. That plus a 3 point sharp shooter

by qbdoyle1 on Apr 26, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you think Boozer doesn't play D

Look at Amare. He blocks shots but when it comes to post defense, Duncan shits all over him

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duke Robinson is falling

like Ernest Shazor did a couple of years ago.

by WBL on Apr 26, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Same with Jamon Meredith

Scout.inc actually has Meredith rated higher

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mayock swears alot

At least, a lot more than the other anchors

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We won't

We could’ve drafted him earlier. I would’ve bet DeAndre Levy would be available now too, but we drafted him earlier cuz he was our guy. If Duke was our guy, they would’ve taken him alot earlier Ditto with Maualuga

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there had to be something wrong with Maualuga

but they still shouldve taken laurintais

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by lions4life on Apr 26, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weaknesses

From that scouting report:

Is he totally committed to the game?..Not real physical or aggressive and needs to show more of a killer instinct.

That screams bust to me. If you’re not commited to football, you’re not going to do well

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is what I would want in an OT

Terrific size and bulk with a large frame and long arms…Extremely intelligent with great awareness…Above average athleticism…Light on his feet…Quick and agile with good balance…Moves well laterally…Is able to protect the edge…Adequate strength…Has a strong initial punch…Good range and will get to the second level…Understands angles and positioning…Can recover when beat…Shows the ability to manhandle defenders…Hard worker…Still improving and has upside.

by SLPtransam on Apr 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But it looks like he's only playing football for the money

I hate players like that. If they’re not committed, they’ll most likely bust, but hey pick him if we might get production out of him

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our division is taking all of our guys

Brinkley to Minnesota, Meredith to the Pack ugh

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gerald codahan

released two gospel albums, he sings and he is an OT LMAO

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by lions4life on Apr 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe

Schwartz thinks Long Snapper is our biggest need. So we should go for it

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lions should take

codghan and pryor next

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by lions4life on Apr 26, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hell yeah

Two linemen

But we’ll probably go CB and backup RB

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 punters down

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone think that maybe

Shwartz believes that last years 3rd pick Fluellen can be good

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by lions4life on Apr 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4 forced fumbles

In about 4 minutes of playing time. I wouldn’t mind giving him a shot

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Flu alot

I think he’s on par with Avril talent wise

by Nate D. on Apr 26, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we should go with

Captain Munnerlyn CB from South Carolina (gamecocks hehe). You can’t beat a guy with the first name Captain

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Schwartz

must really have his system defined. i can’t wait to see who is picked in the 6th

by momentumchange on Apr 26, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

herman johnson gone

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on Apr 26, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If u guys have faith in Fluellen

then the D-line is not that bad.. Jackson, Darby, Hill, Fluellen.. i would call it nothing more then average but thats what the lions do.. settle for average

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by lions4life on Apr 26, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone else believe

that Alexsander didnt have that bad of a rookie year back in 07

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by lions4life on Apr 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He was solid

But that injury has me worried. He hasn’t played in a while

by detpistons3 on Apr 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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