POD Community Mock Draft: Pick No. 16
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With the sixteenth pick of the 2009 Pride of Detroit Community Mock Draft, the San Diego Chargers select Florida wide receiver Percy Harvin.
Here is James L's reasoning for the pick:
Where San Diego is starting to show cracks is on the Defensive side of the ball. The fans seemed to like the idea of drafting Rey Maualuga to shore up the linebacking core. He is already a favorite in Southern California and the Chargers faithful were almost ready to declare war after seeing their arch-nemesis, the Denver Broncos, select him at pick #12. One angry fan was heard saying, "I haven't been this mad at Denver since the blown call by Ed Hochuli." Where San Diego really could use help on Defense is at Safety and Defensive End. The problem is that most prospects left at those positions are a reach at this point. There had been chatter about Tyson Jackson, but that idea went out the window after the Packers selected him at pick #9. Robert Ayers could be a possibility but seems better suited to play Outside Linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. After signing Kevin Burnett from the Cowboys, the Chargers really don't have a need on the outside.
With all options on Defense being a huge reach, a poor fit, or already selected, the Chargers are forced to look to the Offense. Enter Percy Harvin, a gifted playmaker with plenty of speed and agility that make up for his lack of size. After recent speculation that the Chargers might trade Chris Chambers, Percy Harvin could immediately improve a lackluster receiving core and take some of the attention off of LaDainian Tomlinson and the running game. Philip Rivers will love having a new target that can seriously open up the Offense.
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A confident NO
Looking at the San Diego depth chart, they are really hurting at the defensive end position. I think Robert Ayers is a very good fit here. Micheal Johnson is also a possibility. I don’t like him but he does have all the tools.
At WR the Chargers are pretty strong. Chambers is 30, but he is in great shape and has wonderful hands and athletic ability. I really think Harvin is a stretch.
Sorry man
I was torn on this pick. I had a write up all ready for Tyson Jackson and Rey Maualuga. Recent news on Chambers is that the Chargers are trying to shop him around, although I couldn’t find any clarification as to what they were shopping him for. I looked hard at Ayers, but the general concensus was that he would be better suited at OLB. Even his bio page on NFL.com has him listed as LB. A.J. Smith is good at finding talent in the later rounds and I just felt a Wide Receiver would really put their offense over the top. I also think Harvin is a stretch. I really would have wanted Maclin but he was gone. In a perfect world, if this mock were reality, San Diego would have tried to trade down.
You were probably going to get a lot of NOs no matter what you did.
James, The players picked ahead of you made this a tough selection.
Exactly
Thats the problem I had with the GB pick. No offense, but I did vote my first no in this mock draft. I think Clay Matthews would’ve been a better pick. They could move him inside in a 3-4, he would add much needed depth on the LB core in case of another injury, he could fill in at safety if they needed him too.
Good player you picked, though
Thanks
I probably over-analized things as well. (a side-effect of being unemployed and having too much time on my hands) I looked at every option and tried to argue myself out of it. I ended up settling on WR. (No Millen joke please) I thought Maclin would be here, but I was stuck with Harvin. I looked at Heyward-Bey as well, but he didn’t have a very dynamic skill set outside of straight-line speed.
No&No
This mock draft has definitely panned out poorly for SD, but I’m not sure it forces them to take an WR, a position there fairly deep at, to go along with Gates, despite lacking big name receivers. RB is a possibility only b/c of the uncertainty of both sproles and tomlinson’s future, can sproles carry a larger role and will tomlinson be back?
As for DE’s, there is a need for one opposite of castillo with the departure of Igor, but with Tyson Jackson off the board, there are no DEs who can play a 3-4 scheme with there hand in the ground, most of them are just too small.
There probably going to have to reach on this pick or take Andre Smith, to put opposite of McNeal. I’m thinking the best options if your picking by need is ILB Larinaitus, S Delmas, & RB Moreno….
You see my dilemma
but Laurinatus isn’t suited for a 3-4 scheme, Delmas is a huge reach at this point (I looked at him too), and like I said about running backs, they can find what they need later (Shonn Greene, etc.) If sean hadn’t posted that video with Andre Smith chasing burgers, I might have considered him.
Chambers??
When was the last time he was a REAL threat to a defense? Percy Harvin and Vincent Jackson would give teams a reason to back off LT, which puts that team’s offense in a solid spot. I agree with James on this.
GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!
A Confident Yes
Did you watch the Chargers offense last year? One more good wideout puts that team above and beyond offensively. They can address the DE issue in the 2nd round.
GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!
Harvin is just another punt returner
He’ll be like Bush, Hester, and Ginn. Their speed helped them in college, but in the pros their size has kept them from being much of a long term threat. 1 or 2 years of mediocre output before injuries catch up to him.
No argument on your pick, an assesment of the type of player
My personal belief is that these guys are not suited for the NFL. In your position, you had to take the best offensive player and that was Harvin (you have a very persuasive argument posted). If a guy like this takes off in the NFL, he will be a monster. The entire draft is a gamble and this is like hitting on a 16 in blackjack. I never like doing it, but sometimes its the best move you got.
Its just that I can’t recall the last time one of these quick open-space guys played and didn’t end up being disappointments in the NFL. If there are some I am not thinking of, I would like to know about them.
A little more feedback.
The other problem that San Diego has, is no second round pick. I guess they gave it to Miami for Chambers.
So other options for DE could include Evander Hood, or even Peria Jerry[uhh maybe not], or Jarron Gilbert. In the Charger 3-4 they don’t need a strong pass rusher at the DE with Merriman and Phillips at OLB.
So, if they wait until their pick at #78, they will be writing off a lot [sixty] of players. They can pick up a good ILB in the third round at #78.
I thought about Jarron Gilbert
but most of my research suggested that he was a 2nd round pick at best. My hopes are that the Chargers (in the real draft) try to trade back up into the 2nd round. Maybe that’s what they’re shopping Chambers for, although Chambers alone isn’t worth a 2nd rounder. Maybe a package deal.
Nice
You hit it on the head with your explanation, when I saw the pick I was thinking ‘what the hell?’ but your write up made it clear. it’s unfortunate the draft didn’t end up like you wnated it too.
I said no
cuz this makes no sense whatsoever. Harvin is not a need. The Chargers have plenty of WR and KR already.
Isn’t Andre Smith Still on the board, they have no RT, so he’d fit there. Tomlinson is getting old, Im sure they’d love to have Beanie Wells.
What wide receivers?
They’re trying to trade Chambers. Why? I don’t know. Nobody besides Gates can get open.(and even he’s not what he once was) Opposing defenses just target LaDanian Tomlinson. They need a Right Guard to replace Mike Goff, Tackle is not an issue at all. My personal disdain for Andre Smith ruled him out, even if the Chargers did need a Tackle. They don’t need to think running back until later. The only one I would have considered would have been Moreno, not Wells. Moreno is more of an LT style Running Back. Not to mention the lack of success by Big Ten Running Backs in the NFL.
All offensive discussion aside, I wanted to go defense but nobody left made sense. Maybe Matthews at LB. They need help at Safety but pick #16 was just too high for me to be comfortable with Delmas or Sean Smith.
Vincent Jackson is a very good WR
And Malcom Floyd is coming on and Chambers is still serviceable. The O line does need some help, but on principle I would not select Andre Smith. Especially at #16.
Again, since they are missing a second round pick, the Chargers are really hamstrung in picking up immediate help.
Personally, I don’t think a team is ‘reaching’ if they pick up a player who will not be available at their next pick. Trading up usually results in gutting your draft inventory. Maybe that is the way they will go. Again, it would make a lot more sense for them to trade down in this case. But I have been saying that for a number of teams now. There are not that many trading partners available.
Unfortunate Position
You were put in a pretty tough position. I voted No because I can see a few guys who might have be a better fit. Personally, I would’ve picked Matthews. He could’ve really slotted into that 3-4 system nicely. Another possibility could’ve been Knowshon Moreno.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Different Spin! (That's why they're called MOCKS!)
How’s this? Draft Mark Sanchez, and force Denver to trade the 18th pick and a 2nd rounder for him. Chances are the Jets might even offer more, but Denver definitely covets Sanchez. That way we still get who we want and we get back in to the 2nd round. Either that or we grab Andre Smith, Ayers, Britton or Moreno. Tough call, buddy.




















