Lions Agree to Deal with Jansen, Release Bradley
by Sean Yuille on May 29, 2009 7:53 PM EDT
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Right tackle Jon Jansen was released by the Redskins earlier today, and already the Lions have made their move by agreeing to a one-year deal with the former Michigan Wolverine. The deal will become official if Jansen passes a physical on Monday. Assuming that happens, Jansen would join the roster to compete with Gosder Cherilus at the right tackle position. Regardless of who wins the starting job, Jansen brings added competition to the team, which is always a good thing. If Jansen were to start at right tackle, it would be a flashback for Michigan fans, as he and Jeff Backus were teammates at U-M.
In other news, the Lions released fullback Jon Bradley today. Bradley was signed in 2007 and was out all of last season with an injury. Rookie Jerome Felton did a nice job in Bradley's place, and with Terrelle Smith now on the roster, the Lions really didn't have a need for Bradley any longer.
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great for depth
has size and experience. Won’t beat out the gos. , but is a nice back-up. A little injury prone
by WV LIONS FAN on May 29, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
We also have B Petigrew who will be in on a lot of blocking assignments as well. I for one like the pick-up and, dare I say, this line might actually improve from a year ago??
Now – if we can only win a game or 2.
by NYCLionsfan on May 31, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a solid pick up...
He can only help and is going to help puch Gosder for the starting position.
I have to say it is great how we have two Michigan natives now that have rallied around the Lions and want to come back and play for them. It is pretty remarkable considering they may have better options. Pretty impressive.
by TonyDC on May 29, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jansen
this is the offseason long suffering lions fans have been clamoring for! i know jansen will not start, but this is not only depth, but a veteran presence that has had success and can help mold cherilus into a better tackle! kudos again!!
by big smoove on May 29, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like I said on another thread.....
I think it is possible that Cherilus could move to LT. He played LT pretty well during the record setting season of Matt Ryan at Boston College. Maybe Jansen, who is a hard worker and a very solid RT, could come in and start at RT, moving Cherilus to LT, Backus to LG, and leaving Peterman and Raiola at RG and C. The we have Loper and Salaam as backups, among others. I am very interested to see what they will do, especially is Jansen passes the physical on Monday. If all else fails, we just added some more good depth at O-line, I agree with that.
by KDawg on May 29, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another possibility....
Is that Jansen could play LG, next to Backus, since we have no clear cut starter at LG. That was also stated in the article which this thread is based on. Somehow, I think we would be better off moving Backus inside, Cherilus to LT, and letting Jansen play RT…..but we will see.
by KDawg on May 29, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops....
Apparently that was not in that article….I’ll find the one I am talking about.
by KDawg on May 29, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it
Of course, now that I said it I can’t find the article…..I’ll keep looking. Sorry about that.
by KDawg on May 29, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whew
I knew I wasn’t crazy…..lol
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+North/Detroit/Features/2009/wilky052909.htm
by KDawg on May 29, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unsure about Goz at LT
I thought he struggled a little on the left at BC. I would rather keep Goz at RT and let Jansen give him some valuable advice and wisdom. I still have hope that Backus can return to the form he showed back in 2002 and 2003 when we could actually protect the QB.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on May 30, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He struggled so much HE....
That Ryan threw for over 5000 yards passing in a single season and BC allowed a mere 22 sacks. He was moved to LT to protect Ryan’s blind side and give him more time to throw. He played very well at LT at BC.
by KDawg on May 30, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to go with Hyperion Ecta
I belive Goz can grow into left tackle, but every scouting report I read on Goz said he was not made for LT right off the start. But he could be moved there because it’s not like he would be much worse than Backus there any ways…
by msivits on May 30, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But.....
Let me just say I’m not agaisnt Goz moving to left tackle, there will be some major growing pains though but better get them out of the way now if he does move. If we do keep a run first offence he should do better than expected.
by msivits on May 30, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are right
He WAS a right tackle at Boston College for the first 3 years that he played there. He was moved to left tackle at the start of his senior season at BC. In that season (2007) they only allowed 69 tackles for a loss and 22 sacks…..with 5,924 yards in total offense. I was mistaken earlier when I said that Matt Ryan threw for over 5000 yards….he actually threw for 4507 yards, 31 TD’s, and 19 ints…..which improved with Cherilus at LT from the 2006 stats of 2939 yards passing, 15 TD’s and 10 ints…..they were able to throw the ball more and Matt Ryan had more time to throw. He threw 5 TD passes against Wake Forest and Aaron Curry.
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=1102
http://bceagles.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cherilus_gosder00.html
by KDawg on May 30, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I am saying....
Is that Cherilus has more versatility that the scouting reports suggested, and he could very well be a good LT. He is young, and if he could play that position, it would make it much easier for us to find a blue collar RT in the draft. If you want the best LT in the draft, you better have a high pick…..but if you want the best RT in the draft you might be able to get him mid to late 1st round or early 2nd.
by KDawg on May 30, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what your saying
And I think you could be right about Goz, he may, with time, be a good LT. But I don’t know if it’s in Goz’s best interest’s right now to be learning the NFL at a position he hasn’t played a lot of. Maybe Schwartz might switch him over in a few years when he thinks he is capable of playing the left edge.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on May 30, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys guys guys
Does it matter if the rock starts or just gives backus and Goz breathers our line hasn’t seen this much improvement in 1 offseason in my lifetime, I mean come on we sign 2 tackles that have been starters a guard that was good once and one that is very descent back-up assuming that they all stay before training camp actually opens I mean the way it’s going just about everyone who is cut is giving Detroit a serious look now, . . . . .Come on Hutch just tank i this year!
by davis0169 on May 31, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Way.....
…..Jensen is better Then Cherilus…..Good Backup Though.
by BennieBladesFan on May 29, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you all think of...
…Ephraim Salaam? I think he will be a decent backup. We also have Foster. That is some good veteran depth.
by TonyDC on May 29, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can see Foster leaving soon unless he does awesome in camp. Even with that though, he seems to be mentally weak, always false starting, you know the count for christ’s sake!!!. I’ve gotta believe that even Murtha is better. Lots of competition, and I’m pretty sure the Lions haven’t cut any O linemen recently.(may be wrong)
by BIGWalt2990 on May 29, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
We now have 8 offensive tackles…..I see 2 of them leaving unless they can figure out how to play guard in a hurry. I am betting Foster, Barton, and Cook will be competing for the last roster spot at offensive tackle.
TonyDC…..Salaam is definitely good for depth, and he could potentially beat Backus out for the starting job at LT, if they do not move people around. Of course, Backus could really step up his game with all of the competition and his old counterpart being on the team now. I am excited to see what the FO is doing on the O-line. If they continue to improve and add leaders like Jansen, we are going to be even better than expected.
by KDawg on May 30, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Usually 4 tackles make the team unless there is another that plays multiple positions
I think right now we are set with Salaam, Backus, Cherilus, and Jansen. Add 4 guards and maybe 2 centers for a total of 9 or 10 offensive linemen. That’s based on what Marinelli did, though, so things obviously could be different with Schwartz.
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by Sean Yuille on May 30, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assumed Loper and Cook would also be backup guards
by KDawg on May 30, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Foster and Barton are going to the practice squad
Or down the road
by KDawg on May 30, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foster can leave
Never have liked a guy that screwed up a count as much as he has. Good redence.
by Lead Hunter on May 30, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foster to practice squad?
someone will nab him from us
by Boney on May 30, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that the Lions had any idea
that Jansen would be released…..like they did with Foote (speculatively). They re-signed Foster because they needed depth. Now that they have Jansen, they could send him packing. My only question is will they waive him since they just re-signed him?
by KDawg on May 30, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And some other team can have him as far as I am concerned....
I am with everyone who dislikes Foster. He has not done anything good for us.
by KDawg on May 30, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here
I thought Fosters was austral
by davis0169 on May 31, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here prt 2
I thought Fosters was australian for shuffle your feet before the damn balls snapped!
by davis0169 on May 31, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprisingly enough
We don’t drink Fosters over here. We make it but mainly ship it over for you guys.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Jun 1, 2009 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't
surprise me in the slightest.
by Alex Nelson on Jun 1, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foster and Barton have too many years in...
to qualify for practice squad. That is for young players with less than 3 full years in the league… I think. Someone correct me if I’m wrong… nonetheless, Barton and Foster cannot qualify.
by DrewsLions on May 30, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
I did not know that…..see you learn something new everyday. So they would just have to waive them right?
by KDawg on May 30, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we officially say that this year's O line is better than last?
Or am I getting too excited about having a competitive line.
by BIGWalt2990 on May 31, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foster needs math tudor.....
Not a practice squad. It doesn’t matter how good you are if you screw up the snap count on a regular basis. Like KDAWG though, I did not know about the max years in the league to qualify for the practice squad. Nice to know.
Yes BIGWalt, the line should be better and get better game to game, barring injuries, but I wouldn’t get overly excited.
by Lead Hunter on May 31, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they'd have to cut them...
But I personally don’t like Foster very much and honestly don’t know much about Barton. So unless they move one of these guys to guard, neither Foster or Barton will have much of a shot to make the final 53.
by DrewsLions on May 31, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still 2 months
to go, wouldn’t be suprised if we didn’t sign at least 1 more guy thinking D-line unless 1 of many centers are let go with as many as were drafted this year someone is going to becme a cap casualty, just like Jansen.
by davis0169 on May 31, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can still see them signing...
DE/DT Kevin Carter once training camp approaches. He would probably start at end on first and second downs and then move inside on passing situations. That way Avril could still get plenty of playing time on 3rd downs and obvious passing situations. I think it would be a great move in a still shaky area of the defense.
by DrewsLions on Jun 1, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still hoping
that they do sign Carter. He would help us alot on the D-line.
by KDawg on Jun 1, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good signing
this team is getting some good quality depth. I think the roster may resemble a legit football team. Leaps and bounds over the crap last year. I’m very pleased with what Mayhew is doing so far. Folks, we may have an elite young team with solid veteran back-ups in a few years…
by JazzyBBP on May 30, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jazzy, The Lions are getting older right now...................................... hopefully better.
I know the Lions are in a bind right now because of the horrible drafting by Millen, but at some point they have to commit to playing some of the young guys and getting this team off the short term fix of veteran free agents and cuts.
I liked some of the guys that have been picked up over the last six months, but to be realistic they will not be in the NFL in a few years. I know it would be painful, but I would prefer that the Lions make every effort to get younger. It will be interesting to see who makes the roster and whether the Lions give the young guys a chance to develop in 2009 and 2010.
by NorthLeft12 on May 30, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, right now they are
It is going to be a process to infuse the young guys, but in a few years with a couple more drafts, the youngsters take over…. That’s all I was saying.
by JazzyBBP on May 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the contracts of the older veterans the have signed or traded for in the offseason
They are all 1 and 2 year deals. Buchannon is a 2 year deal, Foote is a 1 year deal, so is Jansen. Henry only has 2 years left on his contract, but I believet he second is a club option. They have no long term money invested in guys that are older.
Getting younger needs to be a priority, but you still need vets to help develop young talent. Detroit is working attaining that balance right now. I am very impressed with the moves so far. Nothing flashy, but all are SOLID moves.
by TonyDC on May 31, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll reserve my judgement until the roster is finalized
But I would prefer to see the young guys getting the opportunity to play during the season. Marinelli did not appear to give them that chance very easily. I think Schwartz will be different.
Like I said, I know short term the vets are needed, but long term the kids need to play.
by NorthLeft12 on May 31, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing flashy????
Trade for anall-pro linebacker, get a new QB wth a cannon for an arm, we get lucky with a Tackle that was and might be again an all-pro, alot of lineman get real good about Jansens age and he is basically 2 yers removed from his real injury he should be back to top form. I do agree wit you guys though we def need to get younger soon on the O-line LT top priority, be it free-agency or draft.
by davis0169 on May 31, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't get younger with Free Agents
With the existing FA rules, players are 26 or 27 at the youngest. If the owners have their way and you have to be a six year vet to be a Free Agent, they will be 28 or 29 at the youngest. More often in their thirties.
I agree that almost all of these guys are upgrades or good depth acquisitions for the Lions but in a few years the Lions may be looking mighty old or need to reload.
by NorthLeft12 on Jun 1, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anall-pro(be) linebacker....LOL
No thanks buddy…..
O-Line and D-Line should be our priorities in next year’s draft or FA, I agree.
by KDawg on Jun 1, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great signing
Always great to bring hometown (Clawson and UofM) guys back and Jansen is no slouch. As you said in the post, any added competition amongst players in training camp is a good thing. Great sign, Lions.
by Detroit4lyfe on May 30, 2009 3:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great job Lions
I have been waiting for this day for a long time. I knew John when he was in college. I was hoping he would stay a lion when he got drafted but of course he did not. Well now he is back. It is a great signing and a great quality player. Not only does he add depth but also experience that will help everyone.
by fiddlemayhem on May 30, 2009 5:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the front office strategey
They’re bringing in a lot of local guys, guys who will play with pride. Not always necessarily going to be starters but they can help these players from elsewhere understand their hometown pride and hopefully bring out the best in them. I think they’re trying to bring back the pride of Detroit and I like it. Backus a long time Lion now with Jensen both from U of M. Larry Foote a Detroit native. Delmas, a highly rated rookie from Western Michigan. These guys playing with pride and a no quit attitude could maybe win us games in the 4th quarter rather than lose it like last year. For the first time in years it looks like our depth chart will be occupied with players that were once starters somewhere else where before it was a bunch of practice squad players. I think the depth Schwartz is and Meyhew are building is what will really carryover to the regular season. I almost feel like losing a linebacker or lineman may not cost us games for once and that is comforting because in the NFL injuries are going to happen. Jensen is injury prone but a good pickup still. If we could only get Brady and Griese now. I like our QB situation right now though. I’d say the best situation at QB since David Kraig was the backup. My Mayhew grade is now a B+. I’m begining to feel like an injury or two just might not kill our season.
by MonteCarlo7888 on May 30, 2009 6:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why does everyone keep sayin that Jansen is injury prone??
He has only been seriously injured twice in his entire career. He played through minor injuries, just like alot of linemen do. In 2004 he had a torn achilles and was out for the season. In 2007 he had a severely broken ankle and was out for the season. He came back from the achilles injury in 2005 and started in all 16 games for the Redskins. He played in 14 games and started 11 in 2008. He missed 2 games completely due to a mild knee sprain. He lost his starting job for 3 games because of the bad knee. At the end of the season, he was the starter in week 17. This guy is an animal. He is an old school tough guy who is a leader and a true pro. He is by no means “injury prone”. He is no more injury prone than Jeff Backus or any other offensive lineman. Backus has never missed a game since being drafted by the Lions. There is a first time for everything, and it is not impossible. When you play as a lineman in the NFL long enough, or actually any position in the NFL for that matter, you are bound to get injured at some point in your career. Very few players (if any) have ever gone an entire career without injury. In that respect, all NFL player are “injury prone”. I hate that term as much as I hate “character issues”.
by KDawg on May 30, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
todays sermon is givin by the good REV
Damn staight bro and like I said up above it’s his second year from that injury he should be ready to be a rock again.
by davis0169 on Jun 1, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like KDAWGs thinking
The fact that the Lions have picked up some o-line help leaves them with many options. I believe they will try these guys in many alignments and set the line up accordingly, with the leftovers as depth, and upgrading the guard position. Just an observation and my opinion.
by Lead Hunter on May 30, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's just hope the garbage time comes because the Lions are 28 points ahead.
by Runnin' Rebel on May 30, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I second that notion
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on May 30, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
5th that notion
but reality is we’re far away from that. But, the NFL is cyclical, and we will have our day. Remember 1991?? LOL
by NYCLionsfan on May 31, 2009 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GET READY 2 ROAR!
In ALL of my decades as a LIONs fan, I have NEVER seen us make such moves in the offseason. Man, there is a lot of hope given to the faithful by the MAYHEW CREW (didn’t some putz call him ‘mayhem’ at some point?), this, as well as a lot of speculation (and perhaps a little FEAR) is arising amongst the rest of the NFL!
by myPride on May 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I ask for two things.....
….one, please don’t get hurt!
And two…win us a game!
by jaddison98 on May 31, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SAY IT ONE TIME:
You were wrong, I was right. Ayers was gone by #20. Laurinatis was still there at #33.
Now that that is over, is this another broken down hole-filler the Lions got or can he actually contribute?
If the ’Skins just cut him, I figure the former!
by rbbanner on May 31, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting couple of paragraphs...Cliff Avril Diary
http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=482909
Second and third ones especially. I hope the change makes for a more successful pass rush this year.
by BIGWalt2990 on May 31, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness
lets hope he dosent steal Jansen’s bag on the way out
by CR on Jun 1, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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