I'm Really Excited for '09
I don't claim to have any basis for my thoughts, but I know the Lions tendancies, and I've paid alot of attention to what direction they've been going in. Daunte is going to get to prove himself... I think the FO (the holdovers everyone bitches about) lived through throwing a QB at us and they won't do it again. They brought Linehan in for a reason guys, and this was when they knew they were taking Stafford. Feel free to post your beliefs, since now that the draft is over, I have to start speculating on something else.
Week #1 @ New Orleans L - NO is strong at home
Week #2 Minnesota W - Lions will claim their first win in over a year
Week #3 Washington W - Detroit will be so pumped they'll roll (big win)
Week #4 @ Chicago L - Whoever it was that said the Lions are weak at home was right
Week #5 Pittsburgh L - Nope, not yet guys.
Week #6 @ Green Bay L - Our division is damn good this year... welcome back to the black and blue
Bye - Decision Week (2-4)
Week #8 St. Louis W - Daunte and Linehan win one for the gipper to save his (Daunte's) job
Week #9 @ Seattle L - They'll be deceptively good this year. Which leads up to Staff stepping up in...
Week #10 @ Minnesota BIG W - Stafford will make it happen. I believe this kid wants to be good for this team.
Week #11 Cleveland W - 1st year rebuild. Stafford wins another. People start getting their hopes up :(
Week #12 Green Bay W - Home game, people will actually be there, believe it or not.
Week #13 @ Cincinnati L - That team is going to be a wildcard this year. Everyone forgot about Carson
Week #14 @ Baltimore L - Reality sets in. Staff isn't Matt Ryan, and we're not the Falcons.
Week #15 Arizona W - Only in a shootout. Cards' D got stripped this year.
Week #16 @ San Francisco W - Lions usually play the 9ers pretty bad.. Plus the 49s are worse than us (sorry)
Week #17 Chicago W - This is interesting because it leaves us either at 9-7 (best record in years?) or 8-8 (still not bad). But 9-7 could potentially (in this division especially) even earn a playoff berth. With that, I believe the Lions will pull through because the rest of the Bears schedule is going to make them a burst through a division rival and into the playoffs.
EDIT: I just randomly found this online. It is hilarious. Please don't have a terrible sense of humor about it.
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KOOL-AID : ) FOR EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!!
I think we will be able to tell a lot out of that 1st game against the Saints. For some reason I’m not worried about our offense, just our defense. Playing the Saints week one if we win or at least stay competitive and our D-fence plays decent I’ll have higher hopes for the year. If we go there and lay an egg like against the Falcons YEESH long year again… But I’d love to be 9-7 or 8-8 like you predict.
Here a scenario for you...
You said Stafford comes in vs Seattle. What do you think about Daunte gets sacked from behind by none other than Aaron Curry, puts him out of the game. How ironic would that be?
What I meant was
That Daunte will lose the game @ Seattle, and Staff will start for the Minny game.
Although the scenario you poses would be a hell of a lot more dramatic. And pretty sad as well.
better pick another winner!
You have us beating Washington in week three; the lions havn’t beat The skins in how many years???? Couldn’t do it with Barry can’t do it now; but if stafford has broken the “curse of lane” and we somehow do beat them then we are going to be better than 9-7, 8-8. You also have us losing at Chicago we play well there and if can beat washington then we can definitly beat Chi 2 times this year.
Uhhh
The Lions beat the Reskins 15-10 in the Silverdome in 2000….without Barry. However, that is the only time we have beaten the Redskins since 1965. In 1990, with Barry, we were beating Washington 35-14 with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd QTR. Rodney Peete got injured in that same 3rd QTR, and Joe Gibbs benched Stan Humpries for a guy named Jeff Rutledge. Once Peete was out of the game, Rutledge led the Redskins on a 21-3 run to tie the game at 38. Barry had 10 carries for 100 yards going into the 4th QTR. Fontes decided to hang the game on the arm of Bob Gagliano, and did not call #20 again in the game…..that’s right, he finished the game with 10 carries for 100 yards. We lost 41-38.
Oops....spelling error.....is that why it was funny, or is it because of the memory of Stan Humphries?
OOPS
Or it was funny because Mark Rypien was QB and Stan Humphries played for the Chargers.
by CLF on May 4, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong
Stan Humphries had started in place of an injured Mark Rypien in that game, and he did in fact play for the Redskins in 1990. It wasn’t until 1992 that Stan Humphries became a Charger.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HumpSt00.htm
Here's the box score
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199011040det.htm
Humpy was 13-21 for 159 yards, 1 TD, and 3 INTS before he was benched for Jeff Rutledge in that game. Rutledge went 30-42 for 363 yards and a TD…..he also added the game winning TD on foot…..and that was ALL from 10 minutes to go in the 3rd QTR on.
For some reason...
I thought you were talking about the NFC Championship game….. LINK
by CLF on May 4, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I meant the 1991 season.....
As the NFC Championship game where the Redskins torched the Lions was actually held in 1992.
But to clarify....
I was originally talking about the game during the 1990 regular season, where the Lions almost ended the Redskins win streak against them, but eventually failed.
I'm all for optimism, but playoffs?
That’s why they play games on Sundays, because the paper games hold no weight. I remember playing this guessing game last year. Running down the schedule… checking off most home games as wins… some of the “weaker” opponents on the road and coming up with roughly the same thing you’ve put together this year.
Then a funny thing happens… you realize after week 1 that your team is in serious trouble. You realize that most other teams keep at the very least, some foundational talent from year to year and once again you are overmatched every week. I won’t play this game this year. My expectations are realistically low. Am I optimistic? You bet. But I won’t be predicting 9 wins, playoffs or anything like that this year.
Holding true to that realistic approach, we have a long way to go roster-wise, before we are even in the same stadium as a lot of these other teams. You have wins against Green Bay, Washington and Arizona… and like it or not, these teams are much better than we are. It will take a series of small miracles for us to pull off what you’ve posted above. Again, I’m optimistic… but just keeping it real, too.
Hahah nice
Not a game not a game, Not this game I go out and die for. We talkin bout practice man, practice man.
Lions should be right there in the NFC North
i can see 2 teams at 9-7 and the other 2 at 7-9
are GB/Minn/Chic really that much better than the “new” Lions only 24 guys back from 0-16
by thunder_god08 on May 5, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
lmao !
just at the reference to the mora chant. It could easily be a scary good year, It starts up front and we have at least 1 if not 2 real descent DT’s aslong as Jackson can stay healthy he will demand 2 blockers on most plays, and who can say what the rook will do.
Why does everyone
think that we can beat Minnesota? yes we came close to beating them last year but come on are you serious? You don’t think the additons of Sage Rosenfels,Percy Harvin and Phil Loadholt are going to make no impact oh and also they got the guy i wanted at MLB Jasper Brinkley and a nice CB in Asher Allen
It’s the NFL anyone can beat anyone, Zona wasn’t suppose to win any of the big games they did last year, same for the falcons, ravens, and miami.
Next day head line after week 2 “Culpepper Scorch’s Old Team”
Well if he wins the starting job that will be the head line.
Umm SaginawGuy
Adrian Peterson is better then the Lions whole team! He alone will find a way to avoid losing to the worst franchise in the NFL. Oh and by the way Saginaw is the best
Ummm JMW90210....
Minnesota was the only opponent that the Lions were close to beating… twice.
Sage will not help, Harvin will depend on Sage or TJack’s play…lol… and I’m sure Cunningham will love to challenge a rookie OT!
I see no immediate impact.
And I see your adrian Peterson and raise you a Calvin Johnson topped with a little Culpepper’s revenge.
What?
Raise me Calvin Johnson? How can you say that right after you say a WRs (Harvin) play is based on the QBs play? Daunte is getting older and will be solid but not great and the other option would be Stafford and let me tell you The Vikes Defense would love that
Easy...
with the carousel QBs last year, Calvin Johnson had….are you ready?……hmmmm….. 78 receptions for 1331yds and 12 tds….
As soon as Percy has those kind of #s with 5 different QBs inthe same season… then you can call me out on it….LMFAO!
Secondly, Daunte is younger than Peyton Manning…since you brought up age.
Thirdly, Just imagine CJ’s stats with a consistant QB….HELLO!
THAT"S how I raised you a CJ. The Vikes D is what it is…. and still they almost lost to the Lions…TWICE. That’s good enough for any team to feel alittle bit of confidence.
(Not to mention the pending suspensions of the Williams wall)
by CLF on May 4, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
im not saying Harvin is better then CJ
im saying that the Vikes upgraded both the QB spot and WR spot and will still have Peterson
Calvin Johnson is AMAZING but he still needs a QB and im sorry but Culpepper is not that guy i don’t care if he is younger then Peyton Manning is he as good? heck no.
i get that the Lions played them close last year but come on they are a TON better then us their Defensive Line is still better than ours even without the Williams i mean it doesn’t even compare the Lions don’t come close
Let me tell you this
The Lions will come out and say Hey we almost beat these guys last year i think this year we can take them easy cause we are a better team so they go into the game nice and cocky. The Vikings on the other hand go into the game saying WOW the Lions almost were 2-14 because of us we need to wipe any doubt from anybodys mind that we are the better team
Sage...
Is not an upgrade…atleast in my book…. he’s right on par with TJack.
Harvin missed rookie camp and will only be a factor in the return game until atleast 8 games into the season… (sure he might show a flash or two)
YOU NOR I know what the Lion’s Defense will look like, let alone what Schwartz/Cunningham will scheme up for the Vikes.
But enough with this argument, Lets just leave it as; I think the Lion’s will improve against the Vikings based on improved coaching and you think the vikings will be better based on personel ‘upgrades’.
by CLF on May 4, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
2-0 against them this year.
Our d-fence couldn’t tackle a man with a walker last year, ad with that said. This d-fence will show 3 damn good LB’s behind 2 new DT’s and like you said they barely won thoe games this D will tackle and run blitz alot morethan Tampa 2 chase it down shit. I see the lions having a ligitimate shot at beating not only Minn but Chi both times this year, I was not a big “crybaby” fan in denver either. He has 1 real option on that team ad he is a RB also, this teams D looks as thou it as built to stop the run. Hell as much as everyones so sold on Delmas I’ll throw him i there too a blitzing safety that is a snot knocker outta the backfield and although hot glamorous names both our corners have proved that they can play and have for awhile so they are seasoned, I also beleave that Averil is going tobe a beast off th end this season he showed flashes last year on a horible line and now he’s had another year to grow into his NFL body.
Touché
Adrian Peterson is a valid point. I’m not arguing that the Lions are equal to the Vikes on Paper, so it’s a good thing the games are played on the field. My only argument is just like before it’s the NFL, assignments will be missed by both D’s, big plays will be made, and the best team, “ON THE FIELD THAT SUNDAY” will win.
just a question SaginawGuy
Who do you think would win the Saginaw Sting or Detroit Lions?
im sorry but i had to ask
but i have to admit sometimes i wonder
The Lions.
HAHAHA, it is sad that the question even comes up, and not in a 100% joking manner at that. But the talent at the top of the IFL is not even close to the talent at the bottom of the Lions roster.
Hey did you go see them at Wal-Mart???
I’m from the nasty as well and hey were out on State St a few weeks ago and they were offering pictures and stuff it was the funniest thing a had seen in a while they were desperatley anouncing over the intercom so that they didn’t look stupid standing there by themselvse. But hey don’t kick what they do it’s a real good show to go to at the Dow Events Center, Kind of shocked us puttinga winning team in front of our town.
9-7 might be a little too out of reach
It could happen, but I think I’ll reserve any major predictions until I see how this team actually gels on the field. If we show character, toughness and talent maybe 8-8 is a possibility, but if we struggle, I think 3-13 would be the bigger possibility.
Like Sean said, I’ll be happy when we win a game.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
As bad as it sounds
I hope we don’t go 9-7, we still have WAY to many holes to warrant wishing for a winning season and therefore, a low draft pick. The various holes at important positions (LT, MLB, DT, DE, G) are too vital for the teams success to hope for an elite guy to be available in the upper teens/20s. In my opinion the Lions need to have a bad season and grab the best LT on the board in this draft. I’m not saying we should start tanking games, but let’s not get too good yet, we still have alot of rebuilding to do.
it might happen if they get Foote...
Or another MLB. I’m actually kinda excited about Holtzclaw, although maybe a little early to expect big things, but he sounds like a baller that can play the middle well, I guess making the teams the 1st step, they need some depth there, no doubt. As it stands, the offense is gonna have to put up more points than the defense allows.
As I said
I don’t even believe that it is going to happen, I was merely stating that there is a possibility of us taking the games I pointed out. And if we do that, we could potentially earn a playoff berth. Hell, our division could end up needing 13-3 to win it, I don’t know.
Just something to think about.
I'm with Sean; Two wins this year would be okay with me.
I think we will go 3 and 13, but anything is possible, hope springs eternal, on any given Sunday, that’s why they play the games, stranger things have happened, the best team doesn’t always win, shit happens, maybe we’ll sneak up on some people, they’ll be looking past us, we have something to prove, all the pressure is on the team against the Lions, blah, blah, blah, blah……..
Road Wins
The Lions are like 8-56 on the road over the last 8 years. Why anyone thinks the Lions are going to win games on the road is beyond me. The easy way to pick is 0-8 on the road this year.
Minnesota added High Times Harvin, he is a playmaker, we have no corner backs. I don’t see the Lions winning that game.
The Redskins added Albert Haynesworth to the D-line. He will dominate our o-line, so I can’t see Detroit winning that game.
Pittsburgh, uhm, no.
St. Louis, now this is a game the Lions can win. Unless their new LT, which we passed on, dominates and Bulger goes nuts. Still a winable game for Detroit.
Cleveland. I think Cleveland will be healthy this year. The Lions don’t win this one.
Green Bay. Definitely a winnable game because of the short week.
Arizona, I think their passing game is way too strong for our defense. Cards win.
So I think there are 3 games on the schedule that the Lions can win.
Like I said last year, I don’t care about the Ws and Ls for the season, I just want to see some signs that the team is actually improving. If the younger guys start making plays and the defense gives up less than 400 yards per game and 500 points on the season, it will show to me that the team is headed in the right direction.
Why I think we can win games on the road
Because we have a new coaching staff and about 50% of our players were not on the roster as of last year…
Sure, you’re going to say, “They’re all unfamiliar with the system!” But I disagree. We’ve made some pretty serious upgrades since last year (not saying a whole ton, but come on) so the 8 years prior to this mean about as much as last year’s 0-16 record. It’s in the past. The reason we’ve had a hard time on the road is because the Lions get one of the hardest schedules in the league regularly. Not so much this year (though I’m still pretty sure that if they’re changing schedules based off of performance, the Lions should get a gimme), but I’m not going to just assume we’re going to blow. It may be more realistic, but every year I get ready for the Lions to break out, and I’m just as excited for this one.
We had an easy schedule two years ago. Thats why we went 7-9.
Our schedule last year was tougher because we drew the AFC South [Indy, Tenn, Jax, Houston], the remainder of our schedule was not that tough as far as I am concerned.
The Lions were just bad in 2008. And not ‘bad’ in a good “Super Bad” kind of way.
No to the System
I don’t think that the system argument is valid. Look at Miami last year. New coach, left tack and QB. Somehow they went to the playoffs while learning a new system. Whenever someone mentions the system what they are actually saying is either the players suck or the coach is terrible.
I think the Lions did make an upgrade to the LBs. But who our are starting CBs? We cut everyone that started last year. Sure they were horrificly bad, but is there going to be an upgrade this year? I’d say yes, but probably not much of one.
Isn’t the O-line the same as last year? If so, uh, worst rushing offense again? Lots of sacks. Those things generally don’t bode well for road wins.
I think the team will be better and I believe in the new coach. I am just saying that I am not tieing his improvement to the teams record. 0-16 again this year with obvious signs of life on the team is good for me.
Phillip Buchanon and Anthony Henry
Are the starters, with Eric King as a nickle/rotational guy……..so far. Buchanon is solid, but Henry may have lost a step or two. Schwartz is very high on Eric King. We will have to wait and see.
I'm with you
unlike the last decade, well since Porchette retired we have not really goten pressure on the QB and I see this team’s corners having to cover for 5 to 10 seconds on every play and I think this years D will get off the field when it’s 3rd and 29 and countless 3rd and longs, These corners have seen it before they have done it before, they only one rec in the division that on paper can take our corners and he is in GB. Where else in the div is there speed at that Position?? Don’t even say any rookie is going to step in and be the man cause it just don’t happen! Moss was an exception and I didn’t see no Moss’s in the draft no Calvins either. At best a young Steve smith.
Not this time!
he lit us up but how many of those plays last year were on plays that there QB had all-day to throw on? most! I do’t see our corners having to cover for that 6-10 sec’s all the time, I don’t see this D having 70 and 80 yard drives back to back, that much either. but injuries have alot to do with everything.
Sometimes it's tough
Watching people get excited about the Lions in the summer.
Before someone bitches about me not being a real fan I’m just gonna say that I won’t believe in them until they prove something on the field. I will root for them, and I will hope and try to visualize winning scores and screaming fans, but I’m finished with the kool aid and the saviours.
by MattyZ on May 4, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Uh oh...
…here come the “bandwagon” attacks! I’m with you Matty. I can’t fault the fans for wanting to root for their team, especially when I’m doing the same. I do get pissed with their team for never rewarding such inexplicable loyalty. These guys have been bad for longer than most of us have been alive, and outside of some fun to watch football in the nineties, they’ve been abysmal. Add in the fact that Millen ran this thing into the ground, stepped on it, lit it on fire then put it out with…well I don’t need to get gross, but let’s just say he wasn’t very good for this team. I’ll take the “bandwagon” comments now, but I’m playin this one like I’m from Missouri, and this team is gonna have to “Show-Me” something first.
There has been more change
and for the better, I might add, than I’ve almost ever seen on this team… So go ahead and naysay until you either die or stop being a Lions fan… by no means am I saying we’re the envy of the NFC North, but the fact that (IMO) there is a slight possibility we might end up with a winning record (and a division lead in our weak region of football).
I get confused by people’s logic when they say “I’m not going to get my hopes up, they’re going to do shitty regardless…”. I wouldn’t even watch the Lions if that’s what I thought every year. No wonder there are so many jaded fans… It’s like masochism to them.
It’s a new start on a new year – our first without Millen. GO LIONS!
No stopping
I’m just worn out after this long. Every year I have been a realist about Detroit football, when buddies were excited about the three WR set with Joey Ballgame…I was the guy saying wait. When we went 7-9 and 4-0 in the preseason I told everyone to wait.
And this year as a realist I’m saying huh? I wouldn’t call the division weak anymore. Think about the QB/HB combos for each team in the nfc north…kinda a who’s who of the young stars of this game. A winning record would be amazing considering who else we’ve got on tap outside of the division this year. I think that’s part of the reason people can say we’re hard on losers here. Lions fans have had nothing for so long that all they got is hope and it just reaches such astronomical proportion in the summer that nothing is going to live up to it.
Masochist may be accurate...
…but I don’t know how you can watch this team for even the last eight years and not be jaded? Either way, I can’t speak for everyone, but I watch this team because I have such fond memories of what it was like when this team at least competed every Sunday. I remember how exciting it was to be in games that mattered, and I’m just waiting around until they matter again. Besides, watching the Lions still beats mowing the lawn.
I am suprised thought Nate, I’ve seen you make some pretty smart comments on here before, but this team having a winning record this year seems like a stretch for even the optomists. Four or Five wins would be a great season after 0-16, and probably a lot more realistic. That doesn’t mean the season is a waste as those four or five wins WOULD impact the playoff run for other teams. Then next year… who knows?
This schedule just screams “THREE WIN SEASON” though. 0-6 before they beat STL at home after the bye, a win against Cleveland at home, and a win against Arizona at home once the Super Bowl hangover has set in completely. They may win another game that they shouldn’t, but they’ll probably lose one of these games that they should win too.
Again...
The point I was trying to make is that I believe there is a POSSIBILITY that we might get a winning record.
The reson I’m not jaded is because (for as much as I love football, which is a helluva lot) it’s a SPORT, mate. The minute I begin getting feelings like being jaded over it, I’ll probably stop watching it, or my team anyways… It’s supposed to be for entertainment and fun… When it stops being that, I’ll find something else more useful to spend my time on.
By the way, webster’s defines “jaded” as:
jad⋅ed–adjective 1. dulled or satiated by overindulgence: a jaded appetite.
Agreed
4-12 or even 5-11 is probably the most realistic, but that’s still four or five more wins than we had last season. That my friends is progress!
UH, Ummm, errr, touche', ...and of course sorry
Is this the Lions’ “fans”? One of my biggest gripes as a Lions FAN (30+ yrs. now) is the complete lack of faith shown by the “faithful”. Hell, guys, America hasn’t won a war in 50 years either (and that’s not an unpatriotic statement – I am a veteran) and I’ll tell you that I hope you support our troops better than you support our team.
FYI, Webster defines a fanatic as “one marked by exceessive enthusiasm and often UNCRITICAL DEVOTION”(…stress on the DEVOTION)
or perhaps when you say fan you mean "an instrument for producing a current of /hot/ air
I think these people think WCF finally stepped down.
by Runnin' Rebel on May 4, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
No, those are REAL Lions fans!
Back from when the Lions were a REAL football team. The reason they’re in black in white is because color television had not been invented yet. Amazing how formal the dress code was at Briggs!
MyPride
With all due respect sir, could you please tell me what war in the history of the world has been won by anybody? In my humble opinion, there is no winner in war.
KDawg, Thanks for one of the best comments I have ever read on here.
We need to convince a lot more people of that.
no offense...
but 9-7 is wayyyyyy to optimistic. Lions fan here who thinks that we cant do better than 5-11 this year.
However, would be happy if we did go 9-7
I am a fan, and I am optimistic. I say 3-13
I’m just hoping it’s not 1-15 or 2-14.
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
Vikings fan here, just coming over to see what's going on over here.
This made me chuckle. I live in Michigan, see, so I know a lot of fans, here a lot of news, that type of thing.
This reminds me of a conversation I had with another Lions fan. He insisted it would be Lions vs. Bears for the division crown, which absolutely flabbergasted me.
Then another Lions fan, a good friend of mine, joined in, basically calling the other guy an idiot. Seems like the same type of thing here (except for the name-calling).
That being said, I definitely respect those who are expecting less, because they are often more realistic, reasonable, and level headed.
Anyways, sorry if my coming over here has angered you. I was just curious. Good luck next year. I like the Lions more than the Packers and Bears, so I won’t be rooting against you all the time. :D
In AP I trust
by FarvaForTheVikings on May 5, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
For me
I have usually been a pessimist expectations-wise. In our 7-9 year I think I was pretty optimistic (I thought we could go .500 I think). Last year I predicted 6-10 and didn’t expect a winless season. This year I’m not ready to make predictions yet, but to say my expectations are minimal is an understatement.
Pride of Detroit, SB Nation's Lions Blog
I hate to admit it
but I loved the Lions last year for one reason, Fantasy Football.
starting TE was on a bye week…Shiancoe was playing the Lions…signed
Defense was playing Broncos or Saints..and some garbage D was coming to Detroit…signed.
I did have Calvin and KSmith on at least 2 teams tho, and Calvin lit up the scoreboard for me too
Right now
Without seeing how are team has gelled via training camp and preseason etc. I’m thinking maybe a 5-11. I’d love a 6-10 or above but 5-11 would be a good solid season for us. What I wouldn’t be happy with however is a 1-15 or a 2-14, must not have those two records.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Yes, the longer the streak continues, the worse it will be for all of us.
I would be happy content satisfied non-suicidal with a 2 and 14 season if we got a win in the first three games!
Realistically, look for a 10-6 or 11-5 season
With this many quality second and 3rd year players returning and the rookie draft plus the free agent signings plus the big peterson addition, anyone that knows their football sees the Lions in the double figures for wins in 2009 and outright winning our division.
by ghost_of_bobby_layne on May 7, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions
Can I have some of what you're smoking?
4 wins is more likely. I could possibly see them win, maybe, 6-7 games tops. They really weren’t as bad as their 0-16 record showed but they won’t improve that much this season. I could see 8-10 wins next season at the earliest. Even with draft picks and free agent signings, they didn’t get that much better. 1st year coaching staff and Culpepper at the helm. I’d love to see a big season but I just can’t see that realistically happening.
"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx
don't listen to them 2 below!
I think you are right on here, It is not unthinkable is it? totally revamped D a few little moves on the O-side of the ball, and no one saw the ions O-fence yet, Cullpizzle in camp with the best shape of his playing career, I can see that being a big possibility. And according to them 2 below you ahhh hhh might be smoking something so I got 3 words for you PUFF PUFF PASS! ;)
ahhh the good stuff!
still think the lions have a good shot at winning the division this year, and still wishing we would of waited on a QB until next year, 4 or 5 are going to standout, could of had that real good/great LT. oh well, Marching down the field; for a lions victoRYYYYYYY! GOOOOOOOO LIONSSSSSSS ROAR ROAR ROAR!!

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