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Atmosphere, The Difference Between Good and Great Teams

 

        First and foremost, I would like to convey apologizes for recent inactivity. It's a frustrating period of the NFL offseason, the NFL draft seems ages away, and the upcoming preseason looks like a small flicker of light at the end of a dark, long tunnel. The Lions haven't done anything spectacular recently, and nothing seems imminent. But there is an air of difference surrounding this post-Millen Lions team. Things are organized, crisp, and professional. This hardly looks like an 0-16 team. (If this post isn't up to my usual form please excuse me, I'm a bit rusty ;D )

 

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        With Marinelli the lockerroom and practices were best described as organized chaos. Recent reports from players describe coaches' instructions as contradictory and confusing.

In Detroit, the life of a lineman was maddening. [Jonathan] Scott said the communication breakdowns between the offensive coordinator and his offensive line coach ran rampant. One told him to step left on a play, the other said to step right.


These recent accusations against the former coaching staff is troubling. Normally, everybody from the Head Coach to the towel boy is on the same page. This was not the case in the Marinelli-era Lions. Marinelli and his staff didn't adequately teach our players in the intracacies of playing the pigskin. This could attribute to our numerous busts. With 7 rounds in a draft, it is impossible every draft bust can be attributed to Millen's poor scouting skills. SOME of them had to pan out out of pure dumb luck. I'm assured most of the failed draft picks can be blamed on a poor atmosphere

        Atmosphere. Teams like the Steelers and Patriots are masters at creating a locker room where everyone is accountable, and all the players function as a team. The Lions didn't have this, which is interesting. It's common knowledge Marinelli prided himself on straight shooters-prompting some to say he cared more about character than talent. Last year, the Lions had high hopes. They just came off a 7-9 season and the longest rebuilding period in NFL history almost looked to be at an end. The year after however, the Lions go 0-16. The players feel disallusioned, how could such a negative turnaround take place? The fingers can be pointed at the coaching staff. Former and current players have identified the current and former Lions coaching staff with starking contrasts. The new coaching staff is professional, everyone is on the same page. The difference may be miniimal to some, but a good coaching staff and atmosphere can be the difference between 0-16 and 16-0.

        Imagine an NFL rookie getting drafted by the Lions. He was highly praised throughout college and is expected to take the NFL by storm. When he arrives in the Lions training camp however, things are not as they seem. The camp is disorganized, and players seem to go by feel rather then what coaches tell them to do. There is no cohesion with the players and coaches. The offensive coordinator tells him to hook his man left, while the o-line coach tells him to simply bull rush. This rookie feels disallusioned, and his play falters. He becomes discouraged when he is eventually benched and begins the long road down being identified as "another Millen-bust" for the rest of his career. This rookie isn't the only victim however, nobody is on the same page and eventually the veteran's play dwindles.  Jonathan Scott was in a similar situation. It's frustrating for all players, from the 52nd man on the roster to the all-pro receiver. What the Lions need more than ever is a leader to teach and develop our rookies as well as offer a level of trust between players and coaches.

       Enter Jim Schwartz. Since he's arrived at the Lions, everyone's noticed the differences. Whenever a player is asked what feels different about the Lions, it's always the same answer, the coaching staff. The Lions have a level of confidence with Schwartz in the big seat, and it shows in the player's attitudes.

We’ve got new coaches who I really like and everything is different. We’ve got different spots in the locker room, different rules, even different parking spots. With the players we’ve acquired through free agency and hopefully the draft we can be a kind of Cinderella this season. 
 

 

 

Last year we didn’t play a lot of football. We gave games away as soon as we went to practice. This year everybody wants to win, we have new players and new coaches and a new attitude.

 

Both of tthe preceding quotes were obtained from Kevin Smith's blog. Kevin Smith in particular seems excited for the new season, going as far as predicting the Lions to reach the playoffs. A tall order for an 0-16 team, but the new atmosphere surrounding Schwartz's new regime has been infectious, everybody is feeling it. K-Smith won't be the only one drinking the Kool-Aid

 

                                                       The New Regime

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correct me if I'm wrong but

the lions went 7-9 correct in 2007?

by shanndiggit on Jun 6, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh wow

That was defnitely a mistype rather than a lack of knowledge :)

We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne

by detpistons3 on Jun 6, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd...

…by the way, in spite of your typo. Excellent point, and I think extremely underrated.

by Mushy on Jun 6, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wasn't trying to nitpick

to be honest I couldn’t rightly remember and had to look at it 2-3 times and was like hmm I think it 7-9 lol! I haven’t been able to keep up as much in the last couple years. I was in the Infantry for 11 years than got hurt and now I work in the IT field so I have access to computers now and get to see and read more about my lions who I have loved since forever. I am really looking forward to this year and being able to stay in touch more even though I am in Iraq. At least I can count on POD to get great updates. I prolly read more than I write but I love the site.

by shanndiggit on Jun 7, 2009 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it was 7 and 9.

But what was deceiving about the record was that the Lions finished the second half one and seven [1-7], with our only win a nail biter over the woeful Chiefs who lost their last nine games in a row.
Anyone who thought the rebuilding was almost at an end were kidding themselves. We had the worst defence in the NFL and our offence was totally one dimensional.

Lets give Schwartz and company some time to turn this around. I for one do not want to see short term fixes, but long term improvement.

by NorthLeft12 on Jun 6, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You beat me to this point.

However, it is a good post with regards to what a change of atmosphere and attitude can actually accomplish. You would think at the highest professional level that attitude couldn’t effect performance (I mean everyone at this level should have a winning attitude, right?), but I think it could be one of the most underrated qualities of a winning team.
To draw a loose comparison from another organization: The Detroit Pistons went to six straight Eastern Conference Finals, traded an All Star Point Guard for a Hall of Fame Guard, and went from a long shot Title Contender to a barely competitive team. It may seem like such a small thing, but prior to every game (Billups era) the team would come out of the locker room, Richard Hamilton would take some shots at everyones mid-section and the team would huddle up before running out on the court together. This past season, individual players would simply walk out of the locker room and walk out on the court to warm up. The “TEAM” was no longer and I would attribute most of that to a complete change in attitude and atmosphere.

by Mushy on Jun 6, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Good comparision

And I agree, the chemistry between everybody made the Pistons great. Chemistry and a winning atmosphere in an organization does wonders for everybody’s morale. As a result, the personnel performs better. Nobody on the Lions team last year felt comfortable in the situation, as a result they began to feel disinterested in the organization as the losses kept piling on, this resulted in a dreadful 0-16 season

We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne

by detpistons3 on Jun 6, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well I think..

the play calling will be much improved. And that alone. Will be very noticeable with the way the Lions look on the field.

by JCruize on Jun 6, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On a completely unrelated note

LET’S GO WINGS!!!!!

We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne

by detpistons3 on Jun 6, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Sid the Kid

and his little hood Malkin are not the elite duo in the NHL there just hyped up like Kobie and “King” james. Those 2 cant even sharpen the skates of Dat and Homerin Hank, And wow can you beleave how frustrated their whole team is after playing in the Joe? If I wasnt a firm beleaver in the Conspiracy theory in all sports, I’d say that we would of won in 5 games not 6, just seemed like alot of BS penalties were called on the wings at the Igloo and how can 3 ref’s miss 6 penguines on the ice for about 30 sec. in the attacking zone in game 4??? Hmm It’s kind of sad that the wings didn’t even get to play the best TEAM in the east, that would of been Boston, oh well the wings will just keep whipping on the BILLS of the NHL. And DP3 that is an awesome picture.

by davis0169 on Jun 7, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha i agree

If anyone can’t read it, it says

[Krahn-wald] – verb; to smash, level, waste, ravage, devastate, destroy, demolish, raze, imply reducing a thing uselessness; to defeat completely

We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne

by detpistons3 on Jun 7, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good post dp3

Team atmosphere, leadership and cohesion are some of the intangibles a team needs to be successful. I believe, or at least I hope, that Schwartz & Mayhew and co. can change all that atmosphere. I also think Delmas & Staff can be leaders of the future as well.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Jun 6, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Professionalism and Composure

Unlike the behaviour the Pittsburg Penguins displayed. I’d like to see Malkin Kromwalled.
If the Lions are losing a game pretty bad I hope they don’t whine and pout and throw a
temper tantrum like those 2yr olds on the Pittsburg hockey team.

by Runnin' Rebel on Jun 6, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

btw

I love that pic of gunther cunningham
he looks like he’s ready to make a tackle himself

We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne

by detpistons3 on Jun 7, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gun is the man.

I’ve gotten two of the Chief’s Hard Knocks episodes downloaded, working on the rest, just so I could see for myself what his mentality is. He is exactly what this defense needs.

by BIGWalt2990 on Jun 7, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

millen is still to blame ...........

he picked the yes man coach and didn’t follow up and make sure he was doing his job…if it was total chaos , why didn’t the players go to millen … answer … he was an asshole …just like when he called out chris clabourne and said he was a coward … I’m sure a lot more of that went on that we will never hear about …he also created the no follow-up and no accountability that exsisted until he was gone …did martin mayhew learn from this ??? we can only hope …but he did pick a way better coach …

marc hoople

by spinitnow on Jun 8, 2009 1:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two Things to Comment On....Cohesion and Winning

Marinelli did what he could for the short time he was here. It turned out he was not ready or is not able to be a head coach. His message didn’t waiver. However, as everyone knows, Millen is to blame. Since day one, he has been bringing a hodge-podge of coaches that do not agree. The other coaches in Marinelli’s camp were of different ideals and could not form a cohesive unit. This is not good, as pointed out in dp3’s post. No one can succeed in this atmosphere. Just put yourself in that situation at work. One manager telling you one thing and another telling you something different. Nothing gets done and you are to blame.

The other piece of this is winning. No matter whether you have the correct system in place or whatever, you need to win some games. If you don’t show the propensity to climb the ladder and win, you will lose the player’s minds. From many angles, everything breaks down. The locker room divides, coaches change opinions and confidence in players wanes, the media blasts everyone….etc. There is no way to maintain confidence in a system when so much losing occurs. At very least, if the organization is united, the players may not doubt things so quickly. An audience can be maintained for some time if the message is the same from everyone within.

by The Maestro on Jun 9, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure I'd absolve Marinelli...

completely in this thing. He had a strong hand in burying this franchise as well. His bit about bringing in all his former players from Tampa was his part in the organization’s death knell Sure, Millen had to okay those moves, so most of the accountability rests there, but Marinelli is no scout and should not have pushed so hard to get those players. Also, his schemes were outdated and never matched what little talent we did have. He also brought in a very incapable DC to run that defense for him. Simply put, Marinelli and his hodgepodge staff were overmatched. They were a bunch of position coaches given the keys to Dad’s Ferrari when they should have been taking the Escort.

I agree with you on the winning thing, though. Winning cures most ills and had they made the playoffs in ’07, they may have had the confidence to scrounge a win or two last year. Who knows. All I know is that confident, win-minded teams fare better in the long run or during tough seasons.

by DrewsLions on Jun 9, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Toss up

While Maranelli should probably be held accountable and responsible for putting the final nail in the coffin of a forever infamous 0-16 season, I would put between 95-99% of this on Millen. This is obviously on a totally different magnitude, but when one of my employees does something mind-bottlingly (hah…mind bottling, hilarious!) stupid the knee jerk reaction is to call that guy out for being an idiot. Almost without failure though, the responsibility usually comes back to his boss for putting him in a position to do something stupid. Maranelli (aka Coach Magoo) was never a head coach, and while I’ll be forever burned by his dismissive press conferences and stupid decisions, he never should have been there in the first place. For that, I put this back on Millen! I would SO hire him back, just to Fire him all over again!!!

by Mushy on Jun 12, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember when Detroit was 6-2.... no so long ago.

The defense had the best +/- ratio of turnovers in the NFL. We can’t blame Marinelli for a lack of turnovers can we? The entire team seemed to become over confident after that, and then it all crumbled.

by BIGWalt2990 on Jun 15, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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