The Dark Side - A Realistic View of the 09 Season
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 6:20 AM EDT
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Come with me on a journey of what may be................
Week 1: @ New Orleans Score: NO 51 - DET 17 (Record 0-1)
Drew Brees has a banner day against the Lions patchwork secondary. Lions score two TD's in garbage time after falling behind 41-3 early in the fourth quarter. Culpepper is sacked 6 times and the Lions total 60 yards rushing.
Week 2: Minnesota Score: MIN 24 - DET 6 (Record 0-2)
Stafford gets his first start at home and is intercepted 4 times and sacked 5 times. Brett Farve and Adrian Peterson dominated the time of possession to the tune of 40 minutes. The game is closer than the final score indicates, but the Vikings win.
Week 3: Washington Score: WAS 42 - DET 13 (Record 0-3)
Jason Campbell comes into his own and "The Hogs" are back leading a punishing running game. A tenacious Redskins D yields only 56 yards rushing and intercepts Stafford twice. The rookie does throw his first TD pass to Maurice Morris during garbage time.
Week 4: @ Chicago Score: CHI 14 - DET 10 (Record 0-4)
A very close game, but the Bears D force Dennis Northcutt to cough it up on their 5 yard line, returning the fumble for a TD. CJ pulls his hamstring and is out 3-6 weeks.
Week 5: Pittsburgh Score: PIT 38 - DET 10 (Record 0-5)
The Steelers look every inch the defending champs. Schwartz wisely chooses to start Culpepper here, and watches him get sacked seven times before exiting early in the 3rd with a concussion. Lions get 48 positive rushing yards as Kevin Smith desperately tries not to get tackled during the handoff.
Week 6: @ Green Bay Score: DET 24 - GB 21 (OT) (Record 1-5)
The Lions stun the Packers for their first win under sunny skies at Lambeau. Stafford looks sharp, and Kevin Smith reels off his first 100 yard game of the season. The defense shows up in the crunch. Schwartz wisely takes the ball after winning the toss, instead of the wind.
Week 7: BYE
Week 8: St. Louis Score: DET 35- STL 24 (Record 2-5)
The Lions build off their improbable win in Lambeau, taking down the Rams in a game where CJ returns to receive 150 yards and 3 TD's, Kevin Smith turns in another 100 yard game with a TD. The victory comes at a cost though, as Stafford get a concussion late in the 4th and is out 3-6 weeks.
Week 9: @ Seattle Score: SEA 31 - DET 24 (Record 2-6)
A soggy Seattle field brings the Lions back to earth. The Lions lose Peterman, Simms, and Delmas to injuries. Culpepper has a decent game, but the defense can't stop Branch and Houzmenzadeh.
Week 10: @ Minnesota Score: MIN 49 - DET 17 (Record 2-7)
The Brett and Adrian show is rolling against a decimated Lions defense. Culpepper sustains a hip injury to the cheers of the crowd. Stanton steps in and has his first pass picked for a TD. Vikings limit Lions to 64 yards rushing.
Week 11: Cleveland Score: CLE 28 - DET 21 (Record 2-8)
In their closest game since Green Bay, a last minute sack and fumble recovery for a TD gives the Browns the win is a sloppily played game for both teams. Grady, Foote, and Buchannon are lost to injuries.
Week 12: Green Bay Score: GB 52 - DET 7 (Record 2-9)
Ryan Grant up the middle becomes the stuff of nightmares. When the Lions commit 9 to the box to stop his, Rogers takes his time finding his deep targets. Raiola and White are lost for the season.
Week 13: @ Cincinnati Score: CIN 35 - DET 10 (Record 2-10)
Stafford returns to action, but is watching the game from the sidelines or on his back, as he is sacked 6 times and watches Cedric Benson do his best Walter Payton impersonation. Ochocinco displays a new end zone celebration. Pettigrew breaks his collarbone and is sent to the Charles Rogers rehab center for further evaluation.
Week 14: @ Baltimore Score: BAL 24 - DET 0 (Record 2-11)
Lions gather 12 yards rushing on 26 attempts. Stafford suffers his second concussion. The Ravens rack up 160 yards rushing, 10 sacks and 3 INT's.
Week 15: Arizona Score: ARI 35 - DET 9 (Record 2-12)
The wheels start falling off as many in the starting lineup weren't on the team to start the season. Stanton goes down with a broken throwing shoulder, Henson returns and throws a duck to CJ that ends up getting him clocked.
Week 16: @ San Francisco Score: SF 18 - DET 3 (Record 2-13)
Lions Defense doesn't allow a TD, but can't score one either. Culpepper returns to action, but after 4 sacks, is forced to leave with a high ankle sprain. Kevin Smith tears his ACL.
Week 17: Chicago Score: CHI 38 - DET 21 (Record 2-14)
Stafford returns for the final game of the year, but is kept on thesidelines by a cautious coaching staff. Jay Cutler delivers a remarkable performance against a decimated Lions defense. Lions secure the 2nd overall pick in front of a crowd of 35,000.
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we have a true Lions fan here. Sarcasm anyone? Glad someone form Traverse City (A guess here?) comes and shows such faith. And according to this all the Lions starters end up injured. What a great attitude. Can you go jump on some other teams band wagon like maybe the packers so I can hate you as much as I hate them?
by shanndiggit on Jul 20, 2009 8:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Guess
Odds are I was a fan of this team when the best part of you was rolling off your daddy’s leg. Ever here of spellcheck?
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
and yeah I could use spell check. I have admited many times my grammar sucks. I don’t know how old you are but I am older than you can guess. But the main point is this. You can be a fan for how ever long you want. It could have been since the 50ties. I don’t give a rats ass. But a true fan wouldn’t post this BS. To be realistic is fine but your “predictions” are ridiculous. And to come on a Lions site and and post this BS and not expect backlash just shows how young your mind really is. I have been with the Lions all my life and I don’t expect the freaking playoffs this year but I expect inprovement. Even though you have them winning 2 games, with your stat predictions you have the lions regressing in everything. Maybe you could have been smarter in your first post on this site.
by shanndiggit on Jul 21, 2009 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allright Genius
Explain this to me.
Offensive Line was one of the worst areas last year. Raiola routinely got blown off the ball and was rewarded with a contract extension. Backus is the worst starting Tackle in the division, at the very least, Left Guard is a joke, and the team knows it in their failed attempt to land Dockery, and yet a rookie Tight End is going to make all the difference to an entire line trying to learn new blocking schemes. Right……..
Lets go a step farther and take a look at how Linehans scheme worked, with a better line mind you, in St. Louis. In 2006, Linehans first year, Bulger got sacked 49 times, BEHIND A BETTER LINE. And you wonder where I get the idea from. The Lions were 30th in rushing last year, and with minimal O-Line changes, don’t believe for a second that the powder puff girls are going to be any better this year.
Oh and on the other side of the ball it’s even better. We trade in dumb and dumber at CB for grumpy old underachievers. Henry was about to be converted to safety at Dallas due to lack of speed before the Lions came calling. Buchannon was an average player, at best, last year in Tampa, playing the TAMPA II for crying out loud, but he’s our savior. Oh, but don’t worry because the rookie safety from Western Michigan will make everything better. Never mind that he has everything to learn and get up to speed on the pro game.
And the first time Grady Jacksons 36 year old knee twinges, there goes our run protection to keep Foote free. Oh but wait, silly me, I forgot the 4th round pick from STILLMAN will make everything better.
In retrospect, maybe you ought to be smarter, but then again that’s why your in the army, because you couldn’t score high enough on the ASVAB to get in the Air Force like I did. I am a true fan, and I’m appalled at the crap the organization is serving up to us this year. And lest we forget, out new head coaches only achievement organizationally has been to succeed Greg Williams on the amazingly short Jeff Fisher coaching tree. In case your wondering, Fisher endorsed Williams almost verbatim when he landed the Buffalo job.
Feel free to stick your head in the sand, but I smell a rat.
Banter aside, let me say this. Thank you for serving our country, as I have. I now sleep under the blanket of protection that you provide. My deepest apologies for my previous comment. You have my most sincere and unwavering respect. By the way, I hope you enjoy the Predator, I helped write many of the procedures on it when I was stationed at Indian Springs, I hope it contributes to your safety. Please stay safe, and know your whole country loves you.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 21, 2009 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If
by anyway you think I was attacking you personaly, I wasn’t. As stated above I agree with your arguements. But my problem is with your above stated post. KDAWG is right in the fact everyone has their own opinion and I respect that. But as I stated before if you expected a positive response to your post you obviously were sadly mistaken.
And as for the predator, while I don’t directly use it I am thankful for it. I was airborne infantry for 11 years before I broke my pelvis in three places. And anything that can be blown up with a remote control and save american lives I am all for. And to your comment about being smart enough to land in the airforce with my ASVAB, I was heavily recruited by all services becuase I scored a 96. I was a intelligent idiot in HS and squandered all my chances for college success. I joined the Army becuase they offered me more money for college than the other services. I wanted Infantry becuase I wanted something physically challenging. Of course I haven’t used my college money they offered me becuase again I was a idiot and thought I could be in the Infantry my whole career. Well now I am learning to be a IT Tech in the army which is really sad if you read any of my comments becuase I can barely type. But computer hardware and software is way easier than typing. LMAO. One day I will get to college but I am putting my wifes education before mine. I am thankful that you too have served in the Armed Forces. I think everyone should do a stint just to learn a little maturity and realize that not everything is about yourself. Maybe I have squandered alot of my educational chances in my life but I wouldn’t trade it for the experiances and friends I have made with the soldiers I have served for anything. Jus as a example I was going to GMI and MSU when I was in 8th grade for preengineering. Little did I realize geometery would be my downfall as I had alot of trouble using equations with shapes. I was also recommended and accepted to West Point after my 3rd year in the Army. I didn’t go becuase then I didn’t want to make the army my career, again i wasa a idiot. And I scored a 28 on my ACTs. Believe me I am in no means a idiot. I know what the lions have. But I have faith in our coaching staff. Maybe not our FO so much. But I think having a coaching staff that knows what the hell they are doing can get us 6-7 wins this year. And hopefully next year we can shore up the holes and pray for a wild card berth next year or the year after.
by shanndiggit on Jul 21, 2009 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You seriously can NOT expect me, being ex-Air Force, not to give you crap about being a groundpounder can ya? Lol! I scored 96 on the ASVAB as well, but got eliminated from most of what I wanted to do by failing my depth perception test at MEPS. I’m still pretty proud of the work I did with my little “Flying Lawnmower”, or “The Spermacide” as some call it.
Trust me, I’ve got REALLY thick skin. Alot more than some people seem to have, but if people are going to dish it out, they better be ready to get it back too.
I have to say, I have serious questions about the coaching staff. Linehans system has a reputation for being complex, and the QB takes a beating, even behind better offensive lines. There are no rookie head coaches in the division this year, so every divisional team is playing within the system going into 3 years minimum. I just really think this is going to be a very painfully trying year. And I really hope I’m wrong.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 21, 2009 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can
say though that we have a chance at .500 in the Division. Only becuase Chicago still has a questionable WR and CB situation. Cutler can be as good as a HOFer but without someone catching the ball he can not produce. With GB we have a chance becuase they are instilling a 3-4 DEF this year for the first time and we paly them in the beginning of the season which will be thier adjustment period. With Minn. even with Farve they still, still only have half a QB and NO WR to consistently catch a ball. Berrian is a good deep threat but has hands problems. And Percy Harvin is not a natural WR he is more of a Reggie Bush type of player. SO if we can get 1 win from each rival we have 3 there. I think we can beat CIN CLEV STL which equals 6. Just maybe, maybe we can pull off one more. That equals my estimate of 7-9.
by shanndiggit on Jul 21, 2009 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope you're right
But more things have to go right for this team than did for the Cleveland Indians in the movie Major League. By the way, Backus = Roger Dorn.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 21, 2009 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damnit
hate when I hit enter and accident. Backus will prove doubters wrong if he had a LG worth a shit. If you had to continue to worry about your guard dropping your assignment you would e a epic failure too. I think if Loper can prove he can start and be consistant you will see a side of Backus never before seen. Think about this when was the last time we had a LG start the whole season? For that matter when was the last time you saw a Lions OL start the same OL for more than 7 games? This will be the year that happens.
by shanndiggit on Jul 21, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, here we go
I really think Backus is a walking turd. The guy plays with no heart whatsoever, but always gives his best 70% effort on a good day. I’ve seen this argument before, Backus would be good if….. As far as I can see, Backus benefitted by being next to All-World Steve Hutchinson in college, and benefitted from an incompetent GM drafting him. Sure, if you surround a guy with All-Pro talent, then maybe he doesn’t stink so bad, but if that’s the case, you can stick anyone in there at a much lower salary.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
last
I knew the OL had to work together. If you don’t have decent line around a All-Pro more than likely they aren’t going to be All-Pro. Backus has heart you cannot deny that. I don’t know how many games he has exactly missed since he was drafted ut he hasn’t missed many. But anyway you look at it this year will be his make or break year he will either prove me wrong or you wrong. For the Lions sake I hope he proves you wrong.
by shanndiggit on Jul 22, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he proves me wrong too
For the record, He has missed 0 games since coming into the league.
As I have stated though, Jeff Backus = Roger Dorn. The only time I have ever see him show any passion for the game was when he gave fans the finger after getting booed during introductions last year at the Minnesota game.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
hopefully the coaching staff fixes that. I have heard great things about the new OL coach too. If he fixes this line then he should get coach of the year.
by shanndiggit on Jul 22, 2009 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he fixes this line........
…….I’ll put him up for coach of the decade.
For the record, you rarely hear bad things about new coaches, lol.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got me there
but I still like everything I have heard about him. Especially how he started with the basics during OTA’s, like hand placement and foot palcement. I have actually heard more news about this line coach than our last debacle of a line/OC. He was horrible at everything he did. So as with everything to do with the Lions this year there is no where to go but up.
by shanndiggit on Jul 22, 2009 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the record.....
….and you can ask kdawg about this, I predicted last years offensive debacle the moment they took the O-Line coach (who never did anything to help the O-Line), and failed him upward to offensive coordinator.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true
We were both shaking our heads at that one….and if I recall correctly we weren’t too happy when they hired Marinelli as the head coach.
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was anyone happy with that REV?
Just curious. And ty all who have served in the armed forces period. I was turned down by all 4 branches because of a pinched neve in my neck that got me classified as a epileptic in the gov.’s eyes at least.But TCLion I could careless on your prdictions, reguardless of what I think about your brother. You are not a beleaver thats for sure.
by davis0169 on Jul 22, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and btw
I forgot to say. As a former ground pounder trust me we love you guys. The only service where we can still give grid coordinates on a fire mission and not have to convert it to lat/long. Let me tell you ask a bunch of infantryman to do that in the middle of a fire fight and see how pissed off you can make 30 pea shooters.
by shanndiggit on Jul 21, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
Damn the Navy anyways. Why can’t they use the same terminology as the rest of the world, lol.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too Busy
hanging out in the “HEAD”. Or for us normal folks that either call it a latrine or bathroom.
by shanndiggit on Jul 22, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Figures
I guess they figured if they invented a new language, people might be distracted by the fact that they look like the Good Humor Man during the summer, or that their pants went out of style right around the same time disco died.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Webster's defines {FAN} as:
1.) a device used to produce wind currents, or
2.) any of various devices used for winnowing grain, and
3.) one marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense UNCRITICAL devotion
WHICH ONE ARE YOU?
by myPride on Jul 21, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mP, I consider myself a Lions fan, but I don't totally agree with the definition
I think uncritical devotion is counter productive in the long run. Being an enthusiastic supporter of any cause is a good thing, but never using our common sense to see where that team/cause is going or taking us is wrong. I think critical fans actually have a small [very small] role to play in the success of an organization to provide a different point of view and to provide the other side of an argument. We can keep the organization a little more honest.
NOTE: A good, well functioning organization does not need this as much as a struggling one.
by NorthLeft12 on Jul 21, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think a TRUE fan is...
a fan who sits through the good times and remains a faithul fan in the bad times.
"There's no substitute for guts."
-- Paul "Bear" Bryant
by cincyboy on Jul 21, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garbage....
"If your not with us...
you're with the terrorists!!"
by alpha lion on Jul 20, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/
by CapitolLions on Jul 20, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so Rev. I hope so
But he might of migrated south from the UP and be a packers fan. Keep an eye on him boys! ;-( There I got 1 on him now.
by davis0169 on Jul 20, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RU a Lions fan TC? REALLY?
Don’t make me again define the difference (as previously quoted from Webster’s) between a “device to move (hot) air” and one who “{consistantly/habitually} believes…despite, or in contrary to information (or opinion)….WITHOUT CRITICISM”
TWO WINS!!!!?
Obviously one of the Lions “faithless”.
by myPride on Jul 20, 2009 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I BELIEVE IN MY LIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The incredible SCHWARTZIAN 360 is already underway. At this moment, we are poised on the brink of greatness (again). After decades of being pushed around the league, laughed (and worse) at by fans, run down by all those professional anal-ists (very few of whom look like they have EVER played a snap of organized football), and being the example of what NOT to do with a franchise, we are due our comeuppance. The league will tremble at the advent of the ‘Age of Pride’, and well they should….PAYBAX R AN ITCH!!!!!!!!!
GET READY TO ROAR TILL YOUR THROATS ARE SORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by myPride on Jul 20, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree man, we’re certainly due, and as fans we deserve better than what we’ve been given. Hope Miss Cleo is aligning the stars in our corner for once.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, I'd go for a Schwartzian 180, but not a 360. Please god no
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 21, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
er, yeah, glad someone pointed that out.
ty, my math has never been that good
by myPride on Jul 21, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pfft! I scoff at your pessimism, TCLion
So we don’t have the depth during the mother-of-all-rebuilding-years to easily overcome an unexpected rash of injuries to our starting squad, including all three quarterbacks, CJ, Simms, Delmas, Peterman among others. no surprise.
And all those sacks—where are they coming from? Our O-Line isn’t terrible. They just need an experienced coaching staff that doesn’t send conflicting messages about where to block, and they can play well enough. Also, if you didn’t notice, we added some good veteran depth at both Tackle spots, Gosder’s bulked up and is no longer a rookie (watch for some punishment outa him this year), and we just drafted the single best blocking tight end in the entire draft.
2-14 won’t happen. Our coaches are smarter than the last bunch—they’ll actually make the necessary adjustments and scheme better so we can win the games that we have a shot at. And even if we did go 2-14, it’d be a 2-game improvement over last year, and it would show us crystal clear what our biggest glaring holes are. Plus, we get to ride the high of a 2-game win streak, so thanks for that, too.
We’ll be able to pick up some pretty good guys at #2, #34, and #66 next April. Some combination of OT, CB, DT. Then we’ll have a young core of players from ‘09 and ’10 that are poised to dominate for the next decade. I know I’ll be feeling optimistic after that kind of offseason.
If you want despair, you’re in the wrong place. Real Lions fans immune to it by now.
by n4ry4 on Jul 20, 2009 9:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s been my experience that when the losses begin to mount, the Lions starters get “injured”. And if you want to know how well our offensive coaches adjust, look at Bulger’s sacks the last couple years, and they with a better O-Line.
2-14 is a real possibility. I hope it doesn’t happen, but we shall see.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only 2 wins maybe, it's happened before...but 10 sacks in one game??
Looking at your predictions’ sack totals, there are six games where you give a number of sacks (NO, MIN, PIT, CIN, BAL, SF).
For some of them, you just list how many times a particular QB is sacked, so the QB who subs in after him could presumably be sacked more times than the number your prediction lists. But if we stay conservative and stick with the numbers you predict in the six games where you give a sack #:
NO – 6
MIN – 5
PIT – 7
CIN – 6
BAL – 10
SF – 4
That’s 38 sacks in 6 games, an average of 6.33.
With that average over 16-games, that’s 101.33 sacks allowed. Even if our other 10 games feature better protection than those 6, with the sack #‘s you are predicting, that would at least indicate that we’ll allow close to 80 or 90 sacks, if not quite 101, right?
The Lions only gave up 52 sacks in 2008. And that was our famous 0-16 team, always passing because they’re always behind, with Kitna holding the ball too long, an Overweight Culpepper, etc.
Looking at St. Louis, they never even came close to 100 sacks allowed recently, even though they are a good example of a team with some protection issues:
(from ESPN.com stats)
2008: 45 sacks allowed
2007: 48 sacks allowed
2006: 49 sacks allowed
2005: 46 sacks allowed
2004: 50 sacks allowed
I really think our protection will really be better than what you predict (fingers crossed) :-)
by n4ry4 on Jul 21, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of the comments from St. Louis linemen have put the blame squarely on both Linehan and Martz (back to back offensive schemes) for continuing to run patterns which took an unreasonably long time to develop for the high sack totals. (Then again, what are the going to say, “we suck.”?)
Fact of the matter is, 2006 was a good litmus in comparison. The St. Louis line featured Orlando Pace, Richie Incognito, Alex Barron, and Todd Stuessie. A far better group than the Lions have seen in 15 years, and as you noted, that line with that talent surrendered 49 sacks. Don’t think it was pass heavy either, I want to say Jackson ran the ball like 346 times that year. So when you compare the talent disparity, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect around 80 sacks this year, with some horrendously high totals in certain games.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I think that is unreasonable
Last year, we managed to give up 52 sacks. As far as I can see, we’ve improved our line, especially depth wise. Sure, it’s not a top 16 group but we do have some talent there. I still have a little faith in Backus. He was a part of a Lions group which allowed the least sacks in the league for 2 years I think. Surely, he can protect, even if it’s only decently. I still think we have problems with our guards but maybe Loper can step up and give us some push up front. Then we have Cherilus, whose potentially a pro-bowl RT. Plus, we have a lot more depth than we ever had. I see improvement, not regression. For us to give up 80 sacks seems very unreasonable to me. I’m predicting around 40 sacks.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Jul 22, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will hope for only 40
But I’m guessing between 45-55 sacks allowed…..it could be worse, but that seems realistic. I’d say 80 sacks is a bit heavy in my opinion as well. All we can do is hope that Backus does better with help from a new (and hopefully improved) LG. We still have to worry about Peterman and Raiola too if you ask me. I certainly hope that Linehan doesn’t constantly run plays that take too long to develop, that is for sure.
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have to say our O-Line is bottom 5 league wide
LT – Backus – Other than allowing Spanish speaking, blindfolded, children to whack him with broomsticks, I can’t really see where he’s good for much. I may seem a little harsh on him, and he may be a decent benchwarmer, but he’s not starting caliber IMO.
LG – ??? – A whole bunch of backups, castoffs, and rookies hope to make this job theirs. Whoever wins the job has their work cut out for them. May end up being the strongest position on the O-Line due to true competition, or it may end up looking like a bunch of backups, castoffs, or rookies. Sure would have been nice to have gotten Duke Robinson.
C – Raiola – What a joke. Posterboy of the O-Line in pink TuTu’s, he gets pushed around an awful lot for the 5th highest paid center in the league. I hear he’s a great signal caller for directing the O-Line, too bad he can’t direct himself to man up and block on 3rd and 1.
RG – Peterman – The former Dallas castoff has found a home here under the adage that the “One-Eyed Man is King in the Land of the Blind”. He lunges too much, can’t block a linebacker in space, but he’s better than most of the other swill we have on the O-Line. At least he can open a hole.
RT – Cherilus – People are heaping a lot of praise on him for no good reason. He had some costly penalties and mental mistakes last year and never did win the job outright from “False Start Foster”. Hopefully he improves this year, but I need to see it on the field first before I can say he’s the best O-Lineman on the team ahead of Peterman.
TE – Pettigrew – Welcome to the NFL. Here is our playbook the size of War and Peace. Now in addition to digesting all that, we need you not to hit a rookie wall, adjust immediately to the speed and strength of the game, and cover all blown blocking assignments from the LT. Got it? Good luck kid, you’ll need it.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to argue with that
Still, I don’t see how this group, however bad they may or may not be, could allow 80 sacks. Way too much if you ask me. Even 60 would be a very large number.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Jul 22, 2009 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The perfect storm
This line as is, has only one consistent hole punching combo, and that’s Peterman & Cherilus. It will be hard to run with any consistency this year versus teams with a plug DT. This may well make the Lions one dimensional during the competitive stages of the game.
Secondly, learning the new blocking scheme presents a learning curve to everyone. All it takes is one bad read to allow a sack to happen, one missed assignment.
Third, Linehans offense has a reputation of asking qb’s to hold onto the ball so that pass patterns can develop.
If the team remains in the competitive stage of the game longer than it often did last year, expect higher sack totals. I believe the combination of these factors, coupled with lack of talent on the line could make for some of the highest sack totals in league history.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Respectfully disagree
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Jul 22, 2009 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Respectfully disagree with your disagreement, lol
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there anything that gives you cause for hope this season?
Or do you think it’s all gonna be downhill? Can’t help but notice your display pic is of Staff getting crunched, so obviously, you don’t think much of him.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Jul 22, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry HE
Deep down he has very high hopes for the Lions EVERY year….like I said before, he’s just bitter at them right now. While I am feeling pretty good about what the new staff has done, and optimistic that the team will improve this year, I can’t blame TCLion for not “feeling it”.
“Linehan’s offense has a reputation of asking qb’s to hold onto the ball so that pass patterns can develop.
If the team remains in the competitive stage of the game longer than it often did last year, expect higher sack totals. I believe the combination of these factors, coupled with lack of talent on the line could make for some of the highest sack totals in league history".
It is actually really difficult to argue with that logic. Northleft has already made a pretty strong argument about Culpepper holding onto the ball too long, and how that gets him sacked more often than other QBs. If you look at the history of sacks allowed by Linehan offenses, you will see that the sacks allowed do tend to be high. Our offensive line has not really changed, other than the addition of Loper at LG. It does stand to reason that if our offense has the ball more often (with an improved defense), if the offensive line does not significantly improve we could very well see higher sack totals than last year.
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Normally I support the right of Free Speech and will also in this case.
However, my opinion is that this is one of the stupidest posts [ and that covers a lot of ground my friend ] I have seen on this site. Is it possible that TCLion is in fact RalphGoBlue after he has been off his meds for a week or so?
by NorthLeft12 on Jul 20, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IS IT RALPHIE?
I
DO NOT
KNOW
IF IT is
RALPHgoBlue.
pErhaps it is.
"Sometimes Joe (morgan) doesn't like facts to get in the way of his opinions."- billy beane
"That was a great pick...if this was 2002" Me, to guy who selected Barry Zito in a fantasy draft
www.27ClubPeak.blogspot.com
by harendaman365 on Jul 20, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I had forgotten his idiosyncratic posting style.
That just added to the enjoyment of reading his musings.
by NorthLeft12 on Jul 20, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know this for a fact, as he is my best friend
by KDawg on Jul 20, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The same guy who posted under my name before....
When I was sleeping…..LOL! You conservatives should love him…..he is a Republican…..LMAO!!
by KDawg on Jul 20, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and by the way.....
He has an IQ of over 160…..so watch out on the “stupid” comments…..the man is a genius.
by KDawg on Jul 20, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I make sure I called the Post Stupid, Not the person.
Intelligent people do stupid things all the time. If you don’t believe me….just read or watch the news.
by NorthLeft12 on Jul 20, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid is as stupid does....
Forgive me for quoting Forrest Gump, but it is true. You say that something someone says is stupid, and you are making an implication, like it or not.
by KDawg on Jul 20, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it's true, such as wasting my time on your comments
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 21, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then why do you keep doing it Einstein?
by NorthLeft12 on Jul 21, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elementary Watson, for kicks
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um
IQ tests go to 145.
I hope he didn’t get the extra 15 points because of his amazing prognostication abilities.
by ATL Lion on Jul 21, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What IQ test are you taking?
Try the Mensa one.
by KDawg on Jul 21, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes, the esteemed Eskimo IQ test
You can find all sorts of “IQ Tests” out there that score people up to crazy high numbers, but these test are not valid or reliable. It takes a lot of effort (ie, people) to norm an IQ test and getting reliability out past 2 or 3 standard deviations is very costly (2 sd = 130, 3sd = 145).
If your friend got an IQ score of 160 he either
A) was fed a line of BS by the person giving him the test. No psychometrist would tell someone they had a score of 160. They would instead tell them something like “your IQ is too high to be measured with this instrument”. Which, by the way, is much cooler to say if you are trying to impress someone with how high your IQ is. Or,
B) took some crappy online test that caters to ego-heads who want to tell everyone how smart they are. Usually your score is followed by a “Congrats! You are smart enough to join Super Mensa! Please send your dues check to …” To me, the real IQ test there is if you are so up your own ass you would pay for a card to show other people how smart you think you are.
By the way, the test you linked has a top value with a probability of 1/11 billion. How do you think they normed an IQ test when there is less than 1 person on the planet with that high of an IQ? Doesn’t that seem a little fishy to you?
by ATL Lion on Jul 21, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point about the Eskimo data
But it is not true that a Mensa IQ test maxes out at 145. Mensa “accepts scores from approximately 200 different standardized intelligence tests”. http://www.mensafoundation.org/Content/AML/NavigationMenu/Join/SubmitTestScores/QualifyingTestScores/QualifyingScores.htm
I took one of the accepted tests, just to see what I would get. I scored 167 and was in the 98th percentile. So, your claim that “No psychometrist would tell someone they had a score of 160” is also false. Not to be a jackass either, but there is no such word as “psychometrist”….a psychometric is a " fact concerning an object or its owner through contact with or proximity to the object". http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/psychometry
A person who practices “psychometry” is known as a psychologist.
“Contrary to some noders’ proclamations, Mensa does not claim that its members are geniuses … because Mensans know better than that, of course. Genius I.Q.—depending upon the individual test—is generally considered around 160 or better; the top 2% is generally around 130 or better, again, depending upon which test is doing the measuring”. http://everything2.com/title/Mensa
I agree that paying for a card (which neither TCLion or I did) to show other people how smart you are is stupid. I am not a Mensa member, but even those people understand clearly that a high IQ does not mean you will use your intelligence in a manner conducive to shaping the perception of others to believing you are a genius. In fact, “Genius” is a term that is frowned upon by Mensa. "Victor Vladimirovich Serebriakoff, the co-founder and late Honorary International President of Mensa, has said on record….. “You must not use the word `genius’. If we are geniuses then there are over a million geniuses in Britain, which rather devalues the term”. http://everything2.com/title/Mensa
Look man…..all I was trying to say was that the comments saying the post was stupid, or that the poster was an idiot, are completely unfounded. When I said “He has an IQ of over 160”, I was speculating because I feel that he is equally intelligent as I am (if not smarter). I happen to know what my IQ was, according to the Mensa accepted test that I took. I do not claim to be anything more than a moron, as I think it is much better to let people determine my level of intelligence for themselves. A true genius would be able to answer the most important questions of the world (IE solving world hunger or the energy crisis etc). Nobody here can do that, or else it is likely that they would not be here.
To answer the last question you posed, “How do you think they normed an IQ test when there is less than 1 person on the planet with that high of an IQ?” I will tell you the simple truth. They didn’t. “The percentile for each I.Q. score was calculated using the Microsoft Excel function NORMDIST”. The data was calculated with a computer program…..I seriously doubt that anyone has an IQ of 202 (especially anyone currently alive).
I found this factoid interesting: “In the 20ies scientists had tried to estimate the IQ of deceased personalities such as Mozart (1756-1791) and Goethe (1749-1832) by means of biographic data; thus they wanted to estimate Albert Einstein’s IQ, too. The value estimated for Einstein was between 160 and 180. But this rough estimation can not count as Einstein’s IQ!” http://www.einstein-website.de/z_information/variousthings.html#iq
While I have a good understanding of Einstein’s Theory of Relativity, I do not contend that I could come up with a theory like that! His IQ must have been off the charts….even if his IQ were below 170, it really makes no difference. He used his intelligence in a very specific and focused manner. Could I learn astrophysics and do some of the things Einstein did? Maybe, maybe not. However, I bet there are things that I do better than he could have done. The point being that intelligence is subjective.
And now…..to keep this post relevant to this blog…..nobody’s level of intelligence can change the fact that everything we have an opinion on, pertaining to the Lions and the upcoming season, here is speculation. The same conclusion to previous arguments can still be used. Until we see what happens for real, we will not know for sure. Therefore the opinion of one person is no better than anyone else. My opinion is that it is possible for the Lions to win 8-9 games and win the division. TCLion’s opinion is that they will not win more than 2 games. 6 in one and half a dozen in the other.
by KDawg on Jul 21, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll let these guys know they are jackasses: www.napnet.org
Anyway, my point is that measuring IQ is very difficult. There have been—and still are—many people that say they can measure super high IQs. These people are peddling snake oil to other people who are desperate for validation (I KNEW I was the smartest kid in the world!).
Think about it: you were able to go online and in less than an hour you took a test that told you you had an IQ of 167/98th percentile. How long did it take you to take the GREs or the SATs? Hours. How was this test supposed to give you an accurate score in just a few questions? I’ll give you a hint: the test (if it is not just a quizboy game) is not very reliable. You can take it 10 times and get 10 very different scores. That is not how IQ works.
I know the guys norms you cited were extrapolated, but thats the point. To get tests that go past 3 sd the testers have to extrapolate their numbers rather than norm them. Essentially, they are guessing when they say 160. They don’t have enough data to be certain. Sure they could make a guess as to what your IQ is, but that would be about the same as trying to guess Einstein’s IQ or Mozart’s.
In the end, telling me you have an IQ of 160 tells me 2 things: 1- you are probably smart. 2- you are the kind of guy who is so into telling people you are smart you believed the snake oil some other guy sold you.
Back to the Lions and why we are here: This is all opinion and conjecture. We know that and we all enjoy opining and conjecturing. You are the one who called out how smart your buddy was and he is the one that spent most of his posts here telling other people how stupid they were. I’m just telling you both that even smart people can get fooled. And even smart people can be asses.
by ATL Lion on Jul 21, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I stand corrected……see ATL….even I make mistakes! I try to learn something new everyday, and this is my item of the day. I have never heard of a psychometrist….
Just so you know…..I said I took a test that was accepted by Mensa…..not an online test. (By the way I never took the GRE or SAT, but I did take the ACT. All of those are timed tests, and you can’t get them done any quicker than anyone else taking them because, to the best of my knowledge, they do the exams in sections). However, I am not into telling people I am smart. I only did it here for the sake of argument. I agree that smart people can be asses….and they often are. I also agree that smart people can be fooled….we are human, and we are not omnipotent.
I am a person who is well educated and who has a good foundation of common sense. I’m not the brightest crayon in the box….I just call it like I see it. My friend defended himself. He was not the attacker. Just because his opinion was abject in the eyes of a lot of people here does not make him stupid or his opinion stupid. It is simply different.
I have respect for you ATL Lion…..I have agreed with you on many different points. Do you really think that the Mega Test is not reliable? I do agree that attempting to measure ones intelligence is practically useless, given the fact that intelligence involves so many different factors. However, an IQ test (such as the Mega Test or any of the other Mensa accepted IQ tests) does do a pretty good job at measuring the mental capacity and versatility of an individual. I also agree that a high IQ does not necessarily mean that a person is a genius…..but it does mean that they have a very versatile set of mental capabilities.
I took the test at age 17…..16 years ago. Times and tests have changed since then. I currently have no desire to take another IQ test, nor do I care if anyone is smarter than me or not. Marilyn vos Savant took the Mega Test at age 10 (almost 11) and her IQ was calculated to be 186 (99.9999999 percentile)…..it’s in the Guinness Book of World Records.
by KDawg on Jul 21, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have always taken this stand. IQ is much like potential, it means nothing unless you do something with it. In the end, I would far rather be known as a good person with high integrity than intelligent. Intelligence says nothing about a mans character.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think we got a whiff of your character
by ATL Lion on Jul 22, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t argue the Mega test (or any of the other terribly named high IQ tests) based on their methodology or sampling issues; people who want to believe in them will not be swayed by such arguments… even geniuses. Instead, look at the guy who designed the test. He has 4 or 5 other high IQ tests out there and the only use for the scores seems to be admission to one of the almost 10 high IQ societies that the same guy has started. I have to hand it to the guy, he has made a living conning money out of the smartest people he could find.
Think about this: you need scores on these high IQ tests to get into one of these groups. What is the point of the group? When was the last time Mensa solved a problem? Cured a disease? Did anything except circle jerk about how smart they think they are? Why is it that the smartest person in the world’s main occupation seems to be writing word puzzles for Parade magazine? Why isn’t she out curing cancer or solving world hunger? People caught up in how high their IQ is are just showing off how insecure they are about their own intellect.
I didn’t read this thread until there were a good 50 or so comments. I thought the prediction was a bit ridiculous, but whatever. Someone previously posted the same thing but going the other way and having us win the Superbowl. Both views are fine.
The issue was with the comments. So a lot of the commentor’s responses were that this was crap. That a guy comes to the board and his first post has us losing not only 14 games, but I think half of Detroit is destroyed in a fire (and the good half, too). Then your buddy starts to attack people for being younger, or stupid, or whatever. He is childishly calling people names. If you dig 2 or 3 responses deep, he actually has something to say about why he thinks the Lions will suck, but by the time he gets to that no one is listening anymore because he is too busy insulting them.
If you guys really believe that you were attacked by people for no reason and you don’t see why everyone got upset, then fine. We were all mean to the little troll and we are sorry. Maybe you can start a Mensa Lions Blog and not have to deal with us morons anymore.
by ATL Lion on Jul 22, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let me add
I do respect you Kdawg. You are usually on spot with your comments and always have facts to back them up. I think that is one reason I wrote so much above; I was amazed you spent so much energy defending your friend while he trolled this post. If some random person came her and acted this way you would have been the first to call them on their BS.
TCLion, I still have hope that this was just your way of making a splash jumping in the pool. I hope you are not going to be the guy who just makes disparaging comments about everyone else. You had some insightful comments once you got all your insults out of the way. I hope to hear more of the comments and fewer of the insults.
by ATL Lion on Jul 22, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
Like I said before, I didn’t join any high IQ group and I agree that those types of “societies” are ridiculous.
As far as me being attacked…..I do not think anyone was attacking me personally. As far as TCLion getting attacked…..the posts speak for themselves. You see a person attack him, and him defend. Yeah, maybe he furthered the level of immaturity with his rebuttals, but in my opinion he was (and is) fighting fire with fire.
There is no need to continue to make insulting comments about any involvement with Mensa, or how we think that any of you are morons. I do not think that at all (however I can not speak for him), and I laugh at high IQ societies, just like you. If you take a trip down memory lane here, since I started posting on this site, there was a time when I was far less optimistic and much more bitter at the draft choices the Lion’s FO made this year. In fact, you can credit Drew for turning me around a bit on that.
I defended my best friend. I do not agree with his predictions or his pessimism, but that is his prerogative. If people were so upset and taken aback by what TCLion said, then they should have scoffed and moved on to another thread. Instead they invite an argument by posting and making derogatory comments toward the poster, rather than making a solid argument against his prediction, based on fact or statistical data. They attack the poster and not the post. It is the age old problem that has always been going on here since I found this site.
I do see why his prediction would (and did) upset a lot of people on this site. Nobody here likes to think about the negative side of possibility when it comes to our beloved team. However, I think it should be 100% fine to post your true opinion and express your true feelings, without being asked to “jump on another team’s bandwagon” so they can be hated as much as the rest of the fans on said bandwagon (I have nothing but respect for you Shan, please don’t take this comment personally), without having his/her fandom questioned, without their post being called “one of the stupidest posts they have seen”, and without being compared to a real DUMAS like Ralph. On that note, I could see it as fair if in fact TCLion were posting idiotic stats and making up websites that do not exist. I could also see it if his post was not purely opinion and if it was written in an unintelligible manner. However, I feel that he wrote out his opinion in a clear and concise manner, and the main reason it upset anyone was because they did not find his “dark humor” to be in the least bit funny.
Brad (TCLion) is not a troll. He might be negative, pessimistic, and opinionated, but a real troll is someone who comes in from another fan base just to stir up the pot, or they are someone like RalphGoBlue who simply doesn’t get it. I am sorry if any of you guys can’t understand why I am defending him, but the simple fact is that he is just stating his views and opinions, albeit incorporating dark humor that was obviously not appreciated.
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I should add
Not EVERYONE here was attacking TCLion. I think everyone could take an example from Hyperion Ecta and n4ry4. While they disagreed with what TCLion had to say, they were respectful in their disagreement and subsequent comments.
You are correct that I would have been one of the first to smack down any idiot that made a stupid comment here. However, TCLion does not even compare to RalphGoBlue or any other poster of the sort.
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think TC is a Buckeye fan
Don’t smack me please.
Prohibition never changes the demand, it only changes the supplier.
-Barry Cooper
by BIGWalt2990 on Jul 22, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is way below the belt....
Consider yourself smacked, hard.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 23, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like TCLion being here
Sometimes having someone who brings a negative to our positives can be good. Gives the site a balance. As you said, he is no Raplhie.
Plus, if we do go well, you can rub it in their faces a little ;)
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Jul 22, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
And if things do go better than he expects, he will enjoy every minute of it.
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no ralphie oh brother
Rev he isn’t a buckeye fan is he???? That woud put a strain on my odd comments, that I just could not hold back.
by davis0169 on Jul 23, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No....thank God
I don’t think we would be friends if he was a Buckeye fan….lol.
by KDawg on Jul 23, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ralphie is your best friend?!
And here I had high hopes for you, KDawg! :)
I do have to say this is a ridiculous post. I don’t want to hear about anyone getting injured, even in jest (ok, maybe Favre or Vick, but that’s it). Lions go 6-10.
"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx
by Jettero2112 on Jul 20, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't have read too many of your own then..........
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 21, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that the Lions will
beat the Vikings and Favre. If he ends up choking at the end of the season that will be a definite win in week 10. A lot of those other games are winnable. It isn’t the easiest schedule but it doesn’t matter what those teams did last year. It is a whole new season. Therefore I’m slightly more optimistic. But realism isn’t a bad thing, it isn’t a popular thing either.
Bodyguard of the Official Matty I Fan Club.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 20, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don't care if he predicts the Lions will only win TWO games. Anything is possible.
If you look at his scores and sack totals and injuries it adds up to a whole lot of stupid.
Average score Lions 14 Opponents 33
Maybe it is meant as a joke. Maybe he really believes it. But labelling it REALITY is too much for me.
by NorthLeft12 on Jul 20, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just really hoping the Lions have a good season
I didn’t read all of it because I’m hoping the exact opposite
Bodyguard of the Official Matty I Fan Club.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 20, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that
At the end of last season I could see two wins as being realistic, but a realistic view now is more like 4-6 wins. 7 or 8 is being optimistic, and 10 or more is being drunk on Kool-Aid, not that that’s a bad thing.
Pride of Detroit, SB Nation's Lions Blog
by Sean Yuille on Jul 20, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah there really is hope
I think the Lions have it in them. I’ve said it so many times before but it can happen. I am going to have to go with the borderline drunk on Kool-Aid view and hope for 9 wins.
Bodyguard of the Official Matty I Fan Club.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 20, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again guys....
He is joking. His sarcasm is dark humor. “Pettigrew breaks his collarbone and is sent to the Charles Rogers rehab center for further evaluation”.
I guess knowing the guy who wrote the post makes a difference, but I assure you (while everything he wrote is POSSIBLE, however improbable) he is joking.
by KDawg on Jul 20, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey "Pope Sean Paul"
I know that I’m over the top when it comes to my beleaving that we are going to win the division and all, but why on the kool-aid? If you look at the road games this year you can only count 2 that we “on paper” should not be in. We should be at least concidered in all home games and the other road games against the west for sure. Winning is contagious and if we get off to a descent start 10 wins shouldn’t be all that hard to do. Other teams are going to have injuries and suspensions to players just like we are.
by davis0169 on Jul 20, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
10 wins is easy, just ask Jon Kitna. Ooops………
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I consider predicting 10 wins drinking the Kool Aid because that is by beyond being conservative with regards to a prediction
I can understand why there is some optimism, but I just need to see something on the field before I can be confident in them winning more than a few games. Sure, the offseason looks good on paper, but let’s see what they have on the field before going too high with our confidence.
Pride of Detroit, SB Nation's Lions Blog
by Sean Yuille on Jul 21, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AMEN to THAT!
I have said that it is possible that the Lions COULD win 8-9 games this year. That is just as possible as them going 2-14. Nobody here knows for sure, and I think it is good to see someone else post here who has a different opinion. It keeps it interesting. Until we see the Lions in action vs the Saints in week 1, everything that ANYONE says is 100% possible. Just because some of you might not like it, or disagree with it, does not make it any less intelligent than what you post.
by KDawg on Jul 21, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn congegation.
Or something like that. I am happy to see all this chatter on the POD reguardless of what your brother seems to think about this years chances.If he is right though and we have another dreadful year. That just means we can star all this over again next offseason, when we don’t draft a tackle on the o-side or D-side of the ball next year.Knowing the lions history of (Odd) early picks, what would you guys say hmmmm I’m thinking Safety again next year.
by davis0169 on Jul 23, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, they call The Real World reality
hehehe
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 21, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for your astounding insight. Hope you didn’t strain your brain cell there.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henson was cut
"There's no substitute for guts."
-- Paul "Bear" Bryant
by cincyboy on Jul 20, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
But what would they do if they did happen to lose all 3 QBs to injury? They would be forced to sign someone who is willing to play, no matter the situation. Henson fits the bill.
by KDawg on Jul 20, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say they would sign J.P. Losman
Last time I checked he was a free agent and he was a decent QB for the Bills and is definetly out of Henson’s league.
"There's no substitute for guts."
-- Paul "Bear" Bryant
by cincyboy on Jul 21, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must have forgotten the D has gotten better
Most of your games has the other teams scores in the high 30s . The only team I see cracking a 40 burger is New Orleans. I mean 42 to the Deadskins give me a break. A Farve included Vikngs getting 49 points? It was around week 10 when the old man fell back to earth last year and one of the best Cs in the game in Matt Burke is gone so trim a couple scores off that one. You want to give the Browns 3 offensive TDs in one game? They couldn’t score 1 in 6 games! Another thing that gave me a feeling that your Nostradamus is that you’re predicting so much. I mean youre making it seem like the lions are infested with the injury bug. Get more optimistic and get some KOOL-AID!!!!
"There's no substitute for guts."
-- Paul "Bear" Bryant
by cincyboy on Jul 20, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I admit, I desperately do need some Kool-Aid
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Man.....You In Traverse?
Good to see another TC lion fan in here…..Thought I was the only one!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 20, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Try being the only one in the state of Maryland!
http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/
by CapitolLions on Jul 20, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, Kalkaska these days more or less.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kalkaska!
WOOOOOO. I grew up in Lake City….Right on
http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/
by CapitolLions on Jul 21, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lake City
Go Condoms! I mean Trojans! Lol. Yeah, I know, real original. Growing up, I happened to be a Mesick Bulldog myself. Yeah, I know, Me Sick, all the puns, been done to death already, trust me.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bulldogs *clap clap* Bulldogs *clap clap*
Yeah….we sucked, but at least we only lost to State Champions and State runner ups in football our senior year….:o)
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speak for yourself.......
We rocked. For a 16 man team playing ironman football, we sure put a hurting on a lot of teams.
“and I would do anything for the playoffs……..”
Turning in our pads at the end of that season was still one of the worst feelings I’ve had.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we didn't suck.....
We would have beaten Frankfort, Manton, and McBain and we would have rolled to a State Championship….:o)
That said, I still fault our coaches……
“But I won’t do that…..” ;o)
No other sport made me cry when it was all said and done. Turning in my pads and my jersey was like ripping my heart out, throwing it on the floor, and stomping on it until I died.
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Like....
….What youve done….however I think the lions wont be giving up that mnay pts per game…..the main reason….Special teams…..we drafted guys that will play on Special teams right away……this will help…..Instead off the other team staring at midfield…..now they will start around the 30 35……this at least gives the def a chance to hold the opostion to a fg instead of no chance of stioping at all……This is why the team will be better this year.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 20, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was this Psychic Friends?
Or is this Miss Cleo, I don`t think it is Jimmy the Greek.
by lionsfan64 on Jul 20, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't like this at all TC.
You went through a lot of time predicting all of those games.
Well I predict Sammy Hill will stuff the run, Delmas will injure 3 or more players, the Offensive line will dominate, Stafford will be rookie of the year, and the Lion’s will win a Wildcard spot.
And I predict your fingers will be sore after defending yourself with this “2-14” proclamation.
by BIGWalt2990 on Jul 20, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's my best friend
And even I disagree…..
by KDawg on Jul 20, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assure you, your last prediction is likely to come true, lol
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting prediction
Far too many injuries and far too many defensive lapses. I think we will be more competitive than you make out. Not much more I can add since everyone else has posted their feelings which cover most of mine.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Jul 20, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey just letting everyone know this is F-millen under a new name........
But now to this garbage attempt at a season prediction. So according to this genius by the end of week 12 we will only have 5 players left from the defense that started the season. Dude I can tell you right now that no team will sustain that many injuries. As for the actual game predictions the lions will not I repeat will NOT get blown out by the vikings. Thats just something the vikings can’t do. They have a garbage offense and a bad secondary. They just aren’t equipped to blow any teams out. Also the lions will not get blown out that many times and will not average 20 yds. rushing a game as you predict. And by the way how many concussions do you think Stafford can sustain in one season geez.
by toled0lions on Jul 20, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Garbage... Just Garbage
I dont care if he was just joking. It is in very bad taste. TC Lion you can change your name to TC Packers or TC Bears. It would have about the same effect. You came on to a Lions fans blog. And told us Lions fans that the Lions will suck again. Just about all of us True Lions Fan believe in a turn around this year. And youmake a fan post of basic " Trash talk".
by JCruize on Jul 20, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I call it like I see it suzie cruizie. I certainly hope that I’m wrong, but I’m usually right, it’s ok, you’ll get used to it.
By the way, being a true fan is not turning a blind eye to Captain Ahab and whistling a showtune while he hunts his whale. Once in awhile it requires opening your eyes and standing up for something better. Call me Ishmael.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the truth shall set you free!!!
Hallelujah praise the Lord!! There are a lot of people who are turning “optimism” into blind faith here.
by KDawg on Jul 21, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KDawg...
What are you his little side-kick? You are the one who insist that Culpepper will have a descent year? And why dont you explain the difference between " optimism" and " blind faith" When it relates to sports and to sport fans.
by JCruize on Jul 21, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beware Bishop.
The Rev’s brother your messing with now. As much as the congregtion has stuck together as a group. Blood is still thicker than TCLions head. Now Why is everyone still smackng linehams ass around. His stats as a Ram could be thrown right out the window. We all know what kind of system Martz ran/runs. The kind of system that gets you ran out of town after a year or two. Lineham didn’t have that great of an offencive line in St. Louis for what it’s worth, they were only as good as Pace and he hasn’t been thee All-pro player in over 5 years.If he was 1 it was by Name alone, i.e. see Favre. I also like that we are going to let our O-line block running down-field as appose to playing patty-cake with the D-line. TC I feel that we will bump hads many times if you hold your stance on the lions,But like most “haters” an “crybabies” winning cures all.Or If/when they start to win and are above 500% are you going to change you stripes? Rev my last comment for this moment is for you my friend . . . .And it’ an oldie but goodie. . . .You can pick your nose but you can’t pick your relatives. .he heh ehhe.If it was my brother I’d be sticking up for him as much as possible. You never know when they will be taken away from you.
by davis0169 on Jul 23, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is my brother.....but we are not blood.
However I think of him as blood, mi familia…..If there were any two men in the world that I would want watching my back in a firefight, it would be my little brother (true blood) and TCLion. Of course I will ride herd to defend him…..he would do the same for me.
by KDawg on Jul 23, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
REV
I have 1 true blood brother and 5 that might as well be. I would do anything for those guys and vice versa. What more do you need to do to be a brother?
by davis0169 on Jul 25, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust, Loyalty, Respect, Honor, and Love
That is what it takes to be a brother.
by KDawg on Jul 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A true fan always believes he team can win..
My eyes are more open then you will ever know. And rhyming suzie and Cruize. Pure genius. I have not heard that since I was eight. But let me give it a try. Jackass TCLion. Crap, I just am not as clever as you. It does not rhyme.
by JCruize on Jul 21, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This guys not a true fan
He’s just an old guy siting on his porch yelling at the kids to get off his lawn.
If he were on a metallurgy board he would be yelling at everyone telling them how much iron needs to be mixed into the steel and saying that everyone who disagreed with him was a pie in the sky idiot who is too optimistic.
Suzie Cruize? Really? If you are such an old, wise man can’t you either have a discussion without name calling or at least come up with better names to call people.
by ATL Lion on Jul 21, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is an OFF THE SCALE Genius, ATL. No reason to treat us mortals with any respect.
I don’t think he is an old man, I suspect he is a sixteen year old giving his thesaurus a good work out.
by NorthLeft12 on Jul 21, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's 33, just like me
So you were half way there NL….lol
And he is not an “off the scale genius” (nor am I)…..I don’t think he has ever even bothered taking an IQ test. I was speculating that his IQ is 160+….as explained above in response to ATL Lion. Sorry I even mentioned it.
Giving the thesaurus a good workout? LOL….we used to read the Dictionary and Thesaurus to increase our vocabulary when we were in High School. My Dad always told us that having a broad vocabulary can take you places in the world (especially in business). We took it to heart. I’m sure he is entertained by your attempts at insult though, as am I….:o)
by KDawg on Jul 21, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AH HAH
So not so much older than me than I thought. Being i am 32.
by shanndiggit on Jul 22, 2009 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah Hah nothing
FYI – I’m 33 and a HALF, LOL! My niece was telling me the other day how she’s 8 and a half, it’s hillarious to see how she takes that half so seriously, lol.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
my neice does the same and she is 4. Amazing how the small details are so important at that age. She corrects you about everything you say if it is not said perfectly.
by shanndiggit on Jul 22, 2009 6:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 and a half
That is a precious age. I just love that 4-8 year old range when everything is new and before they start getting full of their own self-importance. It’s always been fun going up to the Polish Fest in Boyne Falls the first weekend of August and watching Lauren Polka with Papa (her grandpa). This week I told her Papa would be looking for a Polka Partner, and she told me, “I think I’ll pass.” in about as snotty a tone as you can think of. Sad.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is hilarious!!
LOL! My 3 year (and 9 month) old daughter told me the other day to “Chill out Dad, I’ll pick up my mess when I’m done eating”…..lol
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My duaghter
who is 2 1/2 just tells me NO DADDY!. LMAO
by shanndiggit on Jul 23, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh
The things they say when they are little….I don’t want her to grow up.
by KDawg on Jul 23, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
and I miss most of it. Like last week my wife bought her a kiddie pool. Well it was night time and she wanted to go swimming so so took our breakfast in bed tray and poured water in it and stripped naked and went swimming lmao. Talk about one pissed of wife lmao.
by shanndiggit on Jul 24, 2009 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Allright that's enough out of you.
Seriously, this is a family board, get your mind out of the gutter you filthy animal. Enough of your fantasies about me.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whippersnappers!
Shoot them all Smithers! They’re running around on my crokus beds!!!
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
I doubt severely that you are as clever as me. That’s ok though, take notes, it helps.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So even at the age of 8 people had you pegged as a sissy?
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
trend
its the easy thing to lion-bash. youre an idiot and will look like one by week 4.culpepper not even going to start week 1, do your homework jack
by J $later on Jul 20, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
slow down J $later
I think that Dr. Pepper is going to the Pro-bowl this year as the lions first in decades, but there is alot of scuttle-butt about how good staff has been in the OTA’s. If he comes out in training camp and lights it up with megatron. . . . . . .There will be no Dr.Peppers, don’t care how good Culpizzle would look.
by davis0169 on Jul 20, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
apostraphe, space bar, capitalize
Yes, I’m an idiot. I bet your momma’s proud of you!
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 20, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Culpepper will start week 1
And I bet he isn’t unseated by Stafford until after the bye week….if at all. It’s just as easy to sit back and type “The Lions are going 16-0” as it is to say “The Lions are going 0-16”. Why don’t you try attacking the post instead of the poster J $later?? Your post only makes you look like the idiot in my opinion.
by KDawg on Jul 21, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know
KDAWG I have to say I am disappointed in you in one aspect. If this was anyone other than your best friend you would be all over them like white on rice. But I appluad your loyality to your friend. Not many friends are as loyal. I find myself many times looking for certina people that post becuase they have intelligent things to say. You are one of these posters. Now I may not be the smartest guy on here. I do only have a HS education and have been in the Army for 12 years with no college education. But there is only so much sarcasm or joking a person should could or would take. And for a first time post this post is over the top. Maybe the guy doesn’t care. IDK you do. But this post is completely offensive in every manner to put on a lions site. If this was ralph you would have slapped him down in a matter of seconds. If this was drew you would have debated this for weeks. But becuase it is your friend you defend him and make yourself look like a hypocrite. But like I said your loyality is commendable.
by shanndiggit on Jul 21, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't help it
You guys don’t know him…..and some are judging based on an opinion. Like I said before, I do not agree with what he wrote here either. His intent was to garner a strong response though….looks like it worked.
It is unfortunate that you think I look like a hypocrite…..but I grew up with TCLion, and he’s like a brother to me. If everyone here was as good a friend to me as he is, I would back them too.
by KDawg on Jul 21, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the guy got as strong as a response as he did because you vouched for him
Had you not stepped in on his behalf and if your standing on the board is not as high as it is, this post would probably have 1/10 the response it has gotten.
by ATL Lion on Jul 21, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which from the looks of things.......
………would still be 10 times more interesting than most of what I’ve seen thus far. That’s the problem when all speak with one voice, it’s very blase’, to the point where you actually do start believing David Koresh, or that a suicide in conjuntion with a comet is actually not such a bad idea. But hey, don’t let me disturb your pleasant sheep mentality with original thought.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 22, 2009 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
you are a hypocrite. You have stood by all you opinions before and not wavered. But this thread makes it look like it. My question is where is drew lol. I would to hear his thoughts on this.
by shanndiggit on Jul 22, 2009 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why TCLion
I can understand you being a smart-azz person and all. And after reading your posts too this point, I gotta wonder what side of the genious line do you fall?In one thread your seem very smart and then in the next thread you are a pompus jerk. Just stick too 1 side of the force there little buddy from the great up north, and I can except you for what you are. But when you waiver from side too side I can’t deside if I like you or not. And my first name is Scotty not Scott for the simple fact that I’m not a serious person and Scott"y" fits my personality better. So if you want to call names and be an unintelligent person like with the Bishop, you can call me Scotty Potty all day long and it wont faze me 1 bit.
by davis0169 on Jul 23, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as you're "given it all she's got"
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 23, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMFG.....NO WAY!!
Beam me up Cardinal!! No offense bro…..
by KDawg on Jul 23, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you could do that
anymore that is REV. You know me and you and that whole man crush thing we had going on there in the beginning. To all that don’t know what I’m talking about. . . .WE ARE KIDDING!
by davis0169 on Jul 25, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TCLion
You’ve received quite a backlash here, and it’s probably deserved. However, I’m interested in your proper opinion. KDawg, a respected member here has defended you and claimed this post as a joke. Could you maybe then offer a proper prediction with some reasons as to why your prediction is what it is? Would maybe clear up some of this mess.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Jul 21, 2009 3:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unless you bring in players exclusive to the system you are going to run, you face a learning transition period that makes reactions a half second slower. The Lions have chosen to bring in free agents from almost every system except for the ones they are going to run.
They failed to adress properly their two most glaring holes in the offseason, CB and O-Line. Coupled with system transition and a lack of talent to start with, and you have the makings of an ugly cocktail. It’s clear by the way they drafted, to me at least, that they consider this a blowoff year. They are going to use this year to implement their systems, get players familiar, and look towards adressing needs next year.
I doubt there are more than five teams in the whole league where Backus would be a starting Left Tackle. I doubt any team in the league would have been dumb enough to offer Raiola a contract extension for the amount they did. It says volumes when the guy they wanted between those two, Dockery, turned down more money from the Lions flat to go to Washington.
I think this is going to be a more difficult year than many people here envision, and I can’t help but shake my head, because I don’t think it had to be this way. I hope I’m proven wrong, because I would someday like to take my nephew to a Lions game and see them win. I just have to question the approach they have used as being fundamentally unsound. I dearly hope I’m proven wrong, but I have a sneaking suspicion I won’t be.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 21, 2009 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Jul 21, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My take...
Week 1: @ New Orleans Score: NO 28 – DET 14 (Record 0-1)
Tough road opener, but we actually play better than score shows. We get 2 rushing TD’s and control the clock, keeping Brees time on field lower than usual. A Reggie Bush ret TD and 2 Lions redzone TO’s doom us.
Week 2: Minnesota Score: MIN 17 – DET 20 (Record 1-1)
Dante hooks up with CJ for two TD’s. AP gets 100yds, but only one TD. And Delmas picks off Favre in the 4th qtr to preserve the win.
Week 3: Washington Score: WAS 10 – DET 17 (Record 2-1)
Both teams come out smash mouth running. Portis and Smith both get 100 yds and a TD. Pettigrew sneaks across the middle to grab the game winning TD late.
Week 4: @ Chicago Score: CHI 31 – DET 9 (Record 2-2)
Our first ugly game. Cutler lights it up in the first half, and Forte closes us out in the second half. Dante throws 2 picks, and the D looks out of synch all game.
Week 5: Pittsburgh Score: PIT 27 – DET 24 (Record 2-3)
We lose a heartbreaker after playing a great game. Our D plays TOUGH! And Kevin Smith runs for 145 yds and 2 TD’s. Santonio Holmes returns a late punt for a TD to steal one from us.
Week 6: @ Green Bay Score: DET 13 – GB 21 (Record 2-4)
GB wins the trenches – and wins a pretty boring game played on a rainy fall day.
Week 7: BYE
Week 8: St. Louis Score: DET 31- STL 10 (Record 3-4)
Lions come out smoking hot, and Dante throws a TD to each Johnson. Henry picks off and returns for TD. Stafford starts second half and throws a short TD to Smith.
Week 9: @ Seattle Score: SEA 17 – DET 13 (Record 3-5)
Aaron Curry makes us double think taking Stafford first, as he sacks Dante 5 times and gets a pick. Seattle’s offense does just enough to win…
Week 10: @ Minnesota Score: MIN 21 – DET 24 (Record 4-5)
Stafford starts! Plays well tossing TD’s to Pettigrew, Northcutt, and Smith.
Our LB’s shine and hold AP to just 79 yds rushing and no TDs.
Week 11: Cleveland Score: CLE 7 – DET 42 (Record 5-5)
Stafford lights up the Browns secondary for 4 TD’s in first half. Browns just never show up for the rest of the game…Whoa we’re a .500 team!!!
Week 12: Green Bay Score: GB 14 – DET 17 (Record 6-5)
Stafford looks sketchy all game, throws 2 picks. But hangs in there, and with a strong def performance to bail him out, manages a 4th qtr bomb to CJ to send the dejected Packers home.
Week 13: @ Cincinnati Score: CIN 30 – DET 20 (Record 6-6)
Defense gets lit by Carson Palmer early, Stafford gets pulled and Dante manages a mini comeback, but too little too late. Another ugly Lions road loss…
Week 14: @ Baltimore Score: BAL 20 – DET 12 (Record 6-7)
Stafford gets the start, and actually plays a decent game. Smith has a good day running, but the wily Ravens toughen up in the redzone and keep us to 4 Hanson FG’s. A tough loss because the whole Lions team plays a solid, mistake free game. The Ravens are just better…
Week 15: Arizona Score: ARI 31 – DET 21 (Record 6-8)
Beanie Wells makes Schwartz second guess not drafting him to the tune of 188 yds and 3 TD’s. A pair of late TD’s to Megatron go wasted…
Week 16: @ San Francisco Score: SF 17 – DET 34 (Record 7-8)
SF comes out flat, and Stafford makes them pay. Bryant Johnson goes for 140 rec yds but no TD’s. Pettigrew gets 2 cherry picks in the red zone, and Kevin Smith and Morris each run for TD’s.
Week 17: Chicago Score: CHI 37 – DET 6 (Record 7-9)
Remarkably, the Lions can make the playoffs with a win, and losses by GB, Falcons, and Giants. The point is moot as the Lions choke big time and Cutler torches us thoroughly…
All in all, a great year and a solid foundation for years to come!
by Brefstink on Jul 21, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you did pretty good
maybe NO scores more but barring injuries u hit it right on the hed
"There's no substitute for guts."
-- Paul "Bear" Bryant
by cincyboy on Jul 21, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Did I miss a doozy here!
I am so very, very disappointed that I didn’t get to join in this ruckus. Damn vacations! Oh well, I’ll try to weasel my way in from here and get my two cents in (I know… surprise, surprise, right?)
First, I think I got that it was a joke the first time I read it. But to be honest, I wasn’t completely sure. If it wasn’t a joke, I agree with most everyone that this is nonsense. However, as dark humor… okay, whatever. Not really my thing, but again… whatever.
Second, KDawg… are you going to feel the need to defend your “little brother” on every post and comment he makes? Not meaning to single you out, but you kind of did that for yourself. Are you guys going to tag-team every post from now on? I think your buddy can obviously handle himself and with that megabrain and uber-genius IQ, should be able to conjure up some brilliant rebuttals… although most of what I’ve seen so far reads as bratty sarcasm and cheap, personal jabs. Not the best way to get acquainted with his new fellow PODers.
That said, hopefully this is just a stumble out of the gates for you, TCLion, and that this post and subsequent comments aren’t a direct reflection of how you really are as a person or your feelings about the Lions. KDawg speaks very highly of you and I give that some credence. Although, I may have set our relationship (mine and KDawg’s) back a couple steps with my comments above. As always…. callin’ like I see it, right?
Anyway… count this as an official “welcome to the site” from yours truly.
by DrewsLions on Jul 22, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah
We’re cool Drew….:o)
He is older than I am, lol, and yes he can handle his own. That does not change the fact that I love him (he is my brother, even if we do not share the same blood I still consider him family). If you knew me better, you would know that I will defend my family (right or wrong) no matter what the circumstances or consequences. I am a wild man in that aspect. Bring the fight to me or mine (family, friends, or the good ol USA) and you will get what you asked for. I’m a really nice guy, until you step across the line.
I once ran through over 30 people at a nightclub because I thought that someone might want a piece of my “little brother”…..LOL!!! I also went to jail the night before my real brother’s wedding because someone told him they were going to "kick his a** (I drug 11 bouncers around the bar that night). Nobody touches my family, and I’ll stake my name on that. I guess it is something my Dad instilled into me. He used to say to me, “What is your name??” If I said “Kale”, he would repeat himself until I yelled “STEVENS”! Then he would say, “And don’t you forget it”.
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could also be my military background
Even though I never served in the military, both of my Grandfathers did. One served in the Army during WWII in Germany, and the other served in the Marine Corp during the Korean War. I never knew my Grandpa who was in the Marines, but my Dad knew him well (he always said I should have been a Marine Corp drill Sergeant). My Dad’s Dad was a mountain of a man, who helped raise me. At 6’9" 325 lbs, my Grandfather could clean and jerk over 400 pounds when he was 65 years old. He was hard core….God rest their souls.
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably too much extraneous info......
But the bottom line is that for some reason I have a real problem letting my loved ones take on an offensive…..when I feel like they are on the defensive, I go on the offensive. I guess I have issues.
by KDawg on Jul 22, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew,,,
I’m happy to see ANY new p.o.d. contributors. They either add to our optimism, or they give us something to dispute.
Prohibition never changes the demand, it only changes the supplier.
-Barry Cooper
by BIGWalt2990 on Jul 22, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am more than able to take care of myself
Both in conjecture and any other situation.
I am going to start a new thread to enlighten folks about my background.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 23, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True as that may be
You can’t get out of it…..we’re brothers and you know what will happen if I am around. If you got a problem with that, I can still tie your ass to the whippin post too sunshine….:o)
by KDawg on Jul 23, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re not so old that I can’t put you over my knee either.
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 24, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats an absurd amount of sacks were giving up..
by zeke313 on Jul 22, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
0 sacks allowed this year. Let’s keep the optimism up.
Prohibition never changes the demand, it only changes the supplier.
-Barry Cooper
by BIGWalt2990 on Jul 22, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
What a depressing post. There’s accepting reality and then there’s hitting us over the head with too much reality. I’m expecting 5 wins, hoping for 7, and praying for 9. If all these players get injured and we only end up with 2 wins, I’ll be severely disappointed. This prediction would be, for me, the worst case scenario. How about some happiness there, Sunshine?
by James L on Jul 22, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s not the worst, worst case…I won’t say It. I feel as if The Schwartz can handle this depressing situation we’re in.
I’m sorry to ask…I wasn’t a member of POD when Marinelli was hired.. Did everyone have the same optimism for Rod as we do for Jim?
Prohibition never changes the demand, it only changes the supplier.
-Barry Cooper
by BIGWalt2990 on Jul 22, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
POD wasn't around when that happened
Pride of Detroit, SB Nation's Lions Blog
by Sean Yuille on Jul 22, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you!
I just want to say thank you to the franchise and the fans of the lions. You provided a great laugh for the nfl fans so again thank you. We all need something to laugh at once in a while. 0-16 hahah. Dont worry the next superbowl you play in will i am sure be remarkable, maybe
by steelcity7612 on Jul 24, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Having done alot of work in western Pennsylvania
I have to ask, does your family tree resemble a telephone pole?
Thank you.
by TCLion on Jul 28, 2009 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
steelcity7612...
I read your SBNation profile. Ummm… question? Are you F***in retarded? I mean. When you took the bus to school. Was yours the short yellow one? NIce little insight to who you are from your write-up " I hate the trees" blah blah blah… " And I like your yahoo ID. Italianstallion7612. You un-original prick. I did not know an I.Q could be measured in negative numbers. So go back to Pittsburgh. And get double team from Big Ben and Hines ward. I am sure it will be remarkable to you.
by JCruize on Jul 24, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW BISHOP WOW!
I don’t think I need to add to that. But the sheep did say he was ba aa aa aad roll in the hey.
by davis0169 on Jul 25, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis
I went to the Steelers blog. And our friend steelercity, has made two fan post. And nobody has yet to even commemt on them. That is, I think, is reason he came here.
by JCruize on Jul 25, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He won’t be laughing when the Lions beat the Steelers this season. And yes, I am serious.
Prohibition never changes the demand, it only changes the supplier.
-Barry Cooper
by BIGWalt2990 on Jul 26, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For me
Pittsburgh and Chicago are 2 towns that I absolutely love to visit but I absolutely can’t stand their teams or some of their less intelligent fans.
by James L on Jul 27, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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