Sunday Notes: One Day of Practice in the Books
- The Lions completed their first day of training camp yesterday, kicking off the start of football once again. Although the regular season is still over a month away, once training camp arrives, football is officially back. Sure, the next month will only be practice and preseason games, but it is simply an appetizer to the main course: the regular season. Besides, with fantasy football drafts and the release of Madden 10 taking place in the next few weeks, September will be here in no time.
- Jim Schwartz changed things up a bit by not having the first practice until the afternoon. In the morning, the team held a meeting and then went through a series of strength and conditioning drills. The meeting seemed to be pretty typical until the very end, which is when Schwartz lightened the mood by having some fun at Matthew Stafford's expense. Schwartz reportedly went through a PowerPoint presentation of what he did during the summer and capped it off by delivering the following line as relayed by Tom Kowalski: "I thought I had a fun vacation until I saw this." Schwartz then showed the team Stafford's now famous pictures from what appeared to be a very joyful Independence Day celebration with quite a few girls in bikinis. As you can imagine, the team got a kick out of the pictures, and Stafford found it funny as well. If I were him, I would have simply shouted "Jealous?" to my teammates.
- With the meeting out of the way, the team went through an NFL Combine-like workout. The players had to go through a series of drills that tested their strength and conditioning. Defensive tackle Sammie Hill, offensive tackle Ephraim Salaam, and wide receiver Demir Boldin failed the conditioning part of the workout, which was a 300-yard shuttle run (12 runs of 25 yards) that had to be completed in 65 seconds. Because of that, they had to sit out the afternoon practice. Thankfully, all three did the test again in the afternoon and passed it, meaning they should be on the field for some football today.
- The other two parts of this test were vertical jump and bench press. The latter saw defensive tackle Landon Cohen show off how strong he is by doing 50 reps. Jim Schwartz called the effort "superhuman," and really it is an example of how this team has gotten much stronger during the offseason. That is one of the goals Schwartz had when he was first hired, and he definitely has to like the results the team has produced so far.
- The three players that initially failed the conditioning test weren't the only ones that didn't practice on Saturday. Defensive tackle Grady Jackson and wide receiver Bryant Johnson both missed practice, and I don't believe it is known when they will be able to get on the field. Jackson has an illness that apparently isn't related to his knee, which kept him out of all the Lions' minicamps this offseason. Johnson, on the other hand, was placed on the Non-Football Injury list, as he is still suffering from the effects of a golf cart crash. You read that correctly, a golf cart crash.
Johnson was driving around in a golf cart in his community and somehow lost control of it, leading to an accident that included the cart falling over on the driver's side and sliding for 10 yards. Johnson also mentioned that there was a hill involved, though "it wasn't a steep hill." His injuries don't sound like they are anything more than wounds, but those wounds may keep him off the field for a couple weeks, according to Tom Kowalski. If you're having trouble imagining what these wounds are like, think back to your childhood and try to remember if you ever crashed your bike. The cuts and scrapes you got from sliding on the cement are probably similar to what Johnson got from the accident. Those types of wounds are sensitive to simply touch, so until they really heal, it would be tough to play football.
(More after the jump)
- If any of you truly believe that Drew Stanton has a shot at starting, you may want to reconsider that opinion. The fact of the matter is that Stanton merely has a shot at making the team, as evidenced by this quote from Martin Mayhew:
"I like our two quarterbacks," Mayhew said. "I think we have probably the two most talented – physically talented – quarterbacks we’ve had since we’ve been here, and I feel good about those guys."
Mayhew is referring to Matthew Stafford and Daunte Culpepper, which shows that Stanton is on the outside looking in when it comes to the battle for starting QB. You would expect Mayhew to keep his statement completely politically correct by praising every QB on the roster, but he only singled out two of them. What's more, when asked about adding another quarterback to the roster (perhaps one of the three that worked out earlier this week), Mayhew said it's "possible" and declined to elaborate on whether or not it had to do with how Stanton looks. - Mayhew confirmed that running back Antone Smith was released, a move that actually excited him in the sense that they had to get rid of such a good player. The release was strictly due to numbers it appears, and the fact that their worst running back was still pretty good has Mayhew excited about the Lions' depth at that position.
- While he is happy with the backfield and the linebackers, Mayhew did say there are "areas of concern" and made a point that making the roster better is an ongoing process.
- Only media, season-ticket holders, and other guests got a chance to watch practice yesterday, but from the sounds of it, Matthew Stafford did quite well. Based on the following quote from former Division II center Jeff Chaney, the offensive line didn't do too hot.
"If first impressions mean anything, Stafford's going to be throwing from his back a lot this year," Chaney said.
That's never good to hear, especially with a rookie quarterback on the team. I'll give the O-line the benefit of the doubt for now, though, as it was the first day of practice. Plus, I'd like to get a live look at the team before I make any rash judgments. I will make an exception, however, for Calvin Johnson, as Megatron was Megatron yesterday. - Charlie Sanders thinks highly of Brandon Pettigrew.
- During his press conference on Friday, Jim Schwartz made a joke about his visit with Jim Leyland, saying he could get in on the class-action lawsuits against tobacco companies after spending some time with the Tigers manager.
- The Detroit News' Tim Twentyman provided a look at the behind-the-scenes people that make training camp run smoothly.
- In a release on their official site, the Buccaneers mistakenly said they went 0-16 in 1976. The Lions just can't get any credit, even for failing.
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Great to hear
That Stafford looked impressive yesterday. Shows that he took the off season seriously, especially when he was involved with a lot of posturing. Cohen put up 50 reps!! Wow, the normal high at the combine is the low 30’s if I recall. Hopefully it projects to his play this year!
When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894
by Leapin Lion on Aug 2, 2009 4:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Football is back, baby!
I’m so excited, it’s been too long, I don’t care that they’re practices.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Also
I’m glad Staff was impressive from day one.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 2, 2009 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Not liking the Bryant Johnson injury
I think he is an integral piece of the offense. The wideout opposite Calvin has to be enough of a threat to take some of the pressure off the constant double and triple coverage. It sounds like Johnson will be out for several weeks… that takes us into preseason games. Ouch…that’s not good. Worst of all, I’m not sure we have another receiver capable of playing that split end position. Northcutt? Maybe, but he’s better suited for the slot. He’s like having Furrey on the outside… capable, but ultimately not a threat. Scour the waiver wire, boys!
Like you Drew I am concern..
about B Johnson’s non-football injury. But, I dont think the Lions need to go wide receiver hunting yet. If Pettigrew can became a real threat in the passing game. That will free up alot of one-on-ones without help from the top with the #2 receiver. I think there are a couple of guys that can fill that hole for now. Maybe, Standeford or Colbert.
Standeford & Colbert...
couldn’t make the roster last year. They won’t be able to be #2 receivers in this offense. I say if Bryant isn’t going to be ready or involved by the regular season, we need to go get a temporary fix, like an Amani Toomer.
I do not like Standeford
I honestly think that our ex WR from Western Michigan University was a better receiver, and I also think Keary Colbert is a better option than John Standeford. Just my opinion.
yes the Lions do have options...
Lets face it. Megatron will be tripled teamed anyway. And with Grew in the mix. The number 2 does not have to be anything special to be productive
Not sure I agree
We don’t need another #1, but we need someone that can catch 50 balls this season. Aside from Bryant and maybe Northcutt, who’s that guy on the current roster??? I have to say that I am concerned about it. Remember, Pettigrew is a rookie. Yes, I think he will have an impact, especially later in the season, but you can’t expect him to take the place of the #2 wideout for this team. Two very different roles. I think they need to pick up a vet free agent until Johnson comes back fully. And better to do it now than wait. Just my opinion.
The Lions have talked about....
bringing DJ Hackett in…..did they do that already? Toomer is old, and while he may have something left in the tank, I do not see him as even as good as Anthony Carter when we got him.
Toomer may be old, but
I think it’s a pretty safe bet that he’s got enough left in the tank that the Giants are going to suffer from the loss of both him and Plastico.
The glass is more than half-full.
They worked him out...
but I’ve not heard anymore than that. Toomer is old, but we are just looking for a stop-gap guy until Bryant Johnson is back in the line-up. I still say he’s a good 2-4 year option if he plays well, but if he’s hurt and can’t practice, we need to get someone in here in the meantime.
I agree JC, Would have thought Calvin showed last year he does not need help.
Sorry, I do not subscribe to the theory that an elite receiver needs another good receiver opposite to thrive. Fitzgerald did fine without Boldin, Steve Smith has not had much opposite him in his career, Boldin did okay before Fitzgerald, and Terrel Owens has not had much across from him when he was at Philly and Dallas.
Calvin has the physical tools and ability to beat double teams regularly. I don’t think triple teams do much better against him. The Lions should save their money and take a chance on a low budget option at the #2 WR spot.
if Cohen Can Put on 20 more lbs....
….he will be a beast!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
Indeed
However, he looked unbelievably awesome in the first practice…..much to my chagrin….lol. By all accounts, if he continues on the path that he has started on already, he will be the starter in week 1.
Were you at the first practice, KDawg???
If you were, hit us with a fanpost and give us your impressions. I’d love to hear them! Thirsty for any training camp info I can get!
No Drew
I just forgot to type “apparently” in there in front of it. From what I read from multiple sources, Stafford looked good.
However
I also read that none of the 3 QBs could take their respective units 70 yards in 1:10 with 2 timeouts…..Culpepper ran the #1 offense against the #1 defense and couldn’t get past their 45 yard line. Stafford ran the #2 offense vs the #2 defense….and made it into the red zone, but couldn’t punch it in. Stanton ran the #3 offense vs the #3 defense….made it to the 16 yard line and then failed to score.
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2009/08/drew_stanton_throws_some_darts.html
Check out these links for an idea "as a whole"
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2009/08/lions_quarterbacks_look_much_i.html
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2009/08/lions_brandon_pettigrew_leaves.html
Oh yeah….the second link talks about a minor injury to Pettigrew that forced him out of the afternoon practice today.
Yeah, I read all those articles already
Was just looking for a “non-media” perspective. I trust most of the people on here more than some of the local media, football-wise… although Killer is pretty smart.
Good stuff guys
I’m stoked for this season.
Can’t wait to see Stafford play this year, even though I’m for Dante starting…
Is it me or does Jordan Dizon look out of place in that photo of them doing drills? haha
Marvin Harrison WR is a free agent still?! Maybe we get him for one season…
I think the Combine record is 51 reps on the bench. Way to go Cohen!
God help our O-line and protect them from harm!
Marvin Harrison
Is not going to play. It would be a bad idea, on the order of a Vick or Pac-Man signing, for the Lions to go out and try to sign him. He is in legal trouble, and it is not looking good for the aging, would be HOF, WR.
Not great WR
Plaxico Burress… “There’s a very good chance Plaxico Burress will be going to jail. If he somehow gets out of that, he’ll probably be suspended. Call me crazy, but Burress’ stock isn’t too high right now.” —Walterfootball.com
Matt Jones… "Matt “Coke Zero” Jones is young and coming off his best season (65 receptions, 761 yards, 2 TDs). He’s a solid possession receiver. Unfortunately, Jones has trouble staying out of jail." —Walterfootball.com
Reggie Williams … “When your best quality as a receiver is blocking, you know you pretty much suck. Reggie Williams is huge (6-4, 214) and athletic, but he can’t separate from defenders. He had 629 yards and 10 touchdowns in 2007, but saw his figures drop to 364 yards and three scores this season.” — Walterfootball.com
DJ Hackett
Is probably the best available of those that are not having legal issues….maybe Toomer….I don’t know. NFL.com has a list.
Other WR
Besides Hackett the only other respectable WR I know of is Justin McCareins. McCareins is 6’2 215 lbs and has 30,000 receiving yards and is only 30 and has veteran experience.
Hackett would be a great 3rd WR (can he play slot? or would he be a backup to Johnson and Johnson?) moving Northcutt to the 4th spot and letting Williams learn the playbook and work on the return game.
Besides them the only decent WR are
Often injured Buckeye Drew Carter 6’3 200 lbs
Kick Return Specialist Dante’ Hall 5’8 187 lbs
Veteran Dane Looker 6’0 194 lbs
I think the Lions need to sign a young raw 6’5 WR and keep him on the practice squad for the year. It’d be great in 2 years to have another red zone specialist to help out Megatron. 6’5 WR vs a 5’10 corner yikes!
McCareins...
actually only has 3,676 yards in 8 seasons, not very impressive. He’s only had 3 seasons over 500 yards. I’d rather go after Toomer if were looking for stop gap since he still is better than whats out there, or DJ Hackett since he’s comparable to McCareins but younger and more potential. Or, since he’ll be good to go by the regular season and will probably be there for the last two preseason games, just let our no.3 and no.4 get some reps until Bryant Johnson comes back.
by lions_sucker on Aug 3, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
WR Failed Timed Shuttel
How does a WR fail a timed shuttle? Is he hurt and on crutches? I know he won’t make the team but a WR that goes slower than OL/DL players shouldn’t be in this league (or football).
i agree...
but each player position had a different time to reach … for example i believe i read the dl had 65 seconds to complete. the wr’s i imagine would/should be down around the 50sec. mark…having run the 400m a ton…if you don’t start smart & pace yourself you will die in the second half.
I Don't Think So
According to this posting
“Defensive tackle Sammie Hill, offensive tackle Ephraim Salaam, and wide receiver Demir Boldin failed the conditioning part of the workout, which was a 300-yard shuttle run (12 runs of 25 yards) that had to be completed in 65 seconds”
That sounds like for all players it was 65 seconds. I’m thinking he was on crutches haha.
Since Schwartz is trying to beef up our Lines
I took a look at what the Lions offical site has some players listed. Than I looked at NFL.com. Very different in terms of weight.
NFL. COM Lions Offical Site
Alama-Francis 6’5 290 6’5 280
Arvil 6’3 260 6’3 253
Cohen 6’3 300 6’3 274
Fluellen 6’2 296 6’2 302
Hill 6’4 329 6’4 331
I am hoping that the Lions Site is from last year and has not been updated. So you can see how the interior line is taking Schwartz’s " Get Big, Get Stronger" mantra to heart. About this time of year I enjoy a nice glass of Kool-Ade. I get the store bought stuff. As do most of us here. But some of you are drinking the stuff Grandpa makes in his bath tub. And I was wondering if someone could send me some?
JCruize...
Do you know what their weights were listed as last year? I’d be curious to see the comparisons.
well I remeber they were what the Lions Site..
has them listed now. I am 100% on Avril was listed at 6’3 253. Last season. I thought that he could be a LB in a 3-4 scheme. That is why I have the two comparisons. NFL.COM and the Lions offical site. I believe or hoping that the NFL.COM has recent and up to date weights. And that the Lions site has not been updated yet. One more thing. the NFL site has Cohen as a DT. While the Lions site has him as a DE
Hopefully the 7 on 7's won't get any sloppier.
When the LEGAL side-effects of a substance, cause more harm to the person, than the side effect of the substance its self, we have an injustice.
- Jimmy Carter
I think they will be a few sloppy practices
And that can be expected. As long as we don’t do it often.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 2, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
stafford
I’m a steeler’s and a falcon fan and a hard core Georgia bulldogs fan so therefor I’m keeping tabs on mat and will be rooting for the lions this season as well all i can say about Stafford is he is a winner beat out the starting senior QB after two games into the season that was when he was a freshman he can stand in the pocket ad can scramble around when he needs to or can take off running when he has to seen him do it plenty of times with the dogs i think you guys are gonna really be surprised by the way this kid handles himself on the field as well as off the field
Longest sentence ever, but welcome.
When the LEGAL side-effects of a substance, cause more harm to the person, than the side effect of the substance its self, we have an injustice.
- Jimmy Carter
its overated anyways........
Kevin Smith let em kno, Ernie Sims Break em, Calvin Johnson you already Kno
2009 Detroit Lions 6-10 to 8-8
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