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Lions Struggle Mightily in 27-10 Loss to Browns

After the Lions opened the preseason with an exciting comeback win, it was only natural to feel excited about Detroit's prospects for 2009.  Matthew Stafford looked good after an interception, and even Daunte Culpepper played relatively well.  Sure, it was the backups that won the game for the Lions against Atlanta, but a win is a win.

Week 2 of the preseason brought about a very different feeling.  Unlike last week's comeback win, the Lions reverted back to their 0-16 style of play by getting blown out by the Browns.  Like many games last year, the Lions got down early and ended up getting beat rather handidly.  In this case, the Lions trailed 20-0 after just 11 minutes or so of play.  The starters -- both on offense and defense -- looked awful, and this game was really over before it even got started.  The Lions' 5-game preseason winning streak came to an end, as the Browns went on to win 27-10

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1st Quarter

  • Joshua Cribbs set the tone at the very start of this game by returning the opening kickoff 95 yards for a touchdown.  A holding penalty brought the return back and negated the touchdown, but the tone was still set.  The Browns quickly marched down the field with ease, as Derrick Anderson completed passes to open receivers and Jamal Lewis ran through open holes.  Lewis was the one that capped off the drive with a 4-yard touchdown run, putting the Browns on top 7-0.
  • Matthew Stafford's first ever start with the Lions did not go well at all.  The very first pass he threw was intercepted, putting Cleveland at Detroit's 20 after a penalty.  Stafford faked a handoff, rolled to the right, and threw to who he thought was an open target.  Eric Wright, however, jumped the route after reading the play perfectly to get the interception.  The Browns only got a field goal out of the turnover, so it wasn't a total disaster.
  • The hope now was that Stafford would respond to the interception like he did last week and lead the Lions down the field for a touchdown.  That didn't happen, though, as the Lions' drive went nowhere after two 4-yard runs by Kevin Smith.  Stafford dropped back to pass on 3rd and short, and with no one open downfield, he basically threw it away.  The ensuing punt was returned 84 yards by Joshua Cribbs for a touchdown, and this time there were no flags.  Cribbs basically made a few men miss and then was gone.  He essentially turned the punt coverage team around by making a move to the left and had nothing but open field in front of him.  It was yet another pathetic coverage attempt by the Lions on a punt/kick, just like we saw multiple times last year.  I know I've said this a lot already, but Stan Kwan really ought to be out of a job.
  • The Lions failed to provide an answer to the return, as it was three and out again.  This time Kevin Smith got the ball and only picked up 1 yard on two carries, forcing the Lions into a 3rd and long situation.  Stafford completed a pass to John Standeford, but it was only for a gain of 4 yards.  Even if the Lions had moved the chains, an illegal formation penalty would have negated the play.
  • There was no big punt return for the Browns this time, but it seemed like the offense moved the ball down the field almost as quickly.  Braylon Edwards caught a pass for a gain of 34 yards, and then Anthony Henry got called for pass interference on the next play, giving Cleveland 17 free yards.  The defense did a nice job of shutting Lewis down on the next two plays and causing an incompletion thanks to heavy pressure on 3rd down, but the Browns did come away with a field goal to take a 20-0 lead.
  • The biggest similarity this game had to the Falcons' game was the ridiculous amount of drops by Lions receivers.  Keary Colbert had the most last week, bringing down Stafford's stats.  Although Stafford struggled this week, Standeford did his best Colbert impression in this game, first dropping a wide open pass down field that would have been a big swing of momentum for the Lions.  Stafford rebounded with a nice pass to Kevin Smith to move the chains, and then Smith ran for 9 yards.  It looked like the offense was finally going to put a nice drive together, but then Smith fumbled the handoff on 2nd and 1.  He recovered it, but on 3rd and 3 a Stafford pass to Adam Jennings was dropped.  To be fair to Jennings, he heard footsteps and probably wouldn't have picked up the first down anyways, but it was still another drop.

2nd Quarter

  • The Lions' defense immediately started to play better in this quarter, as they opened it by sacking Brady Quinn on 3rd and 1.
  • Detroit's next drive got off to another rocky start, especially when Standeford appeared to fumble away a third-down conversion.  The Lions challenged the call, however, and it was overturned since his knee was down.  That was the lone bright spot of the drive, though.  Stafford nearly got picked off on first down, and Standeford dropped another pass on second down.  The Lions appeared to have moved the chains when Derrick Williams made a juggling catch for a gain of 12, but Jennings was called for offensive pass interference.  On 3rd and 20, the Lions gained only 4 yards on a dump off pass to Smith, meaning they had to punt yet again.
  • The Lions finally caught a break when Cleveland was called for an illegal formation penalty, negating a 13-yard pickup by former Lion Mike Furrey.  The play would have moved the chains, but it instead forced Cleveland to redo third down, and this time around they did not pick up a first down.
  • Matthew Stafford nearly opened what ended up being his final drive of the game with a big play.  Thanks to a great pump fake, Jennings got wide open downfield.  Unfortunately, Stafford overshot his target, leading to an incompletion.  This wasn't exactly a rookie mistake, as QBs overthrow their open receivers all the time.  In this case, I think Stafford rushed his throw when he saw how open Jennings was.  Either way, the drive went nowhere, and Cleveland got the ball back, even after fumbling the return.  (LaMarcus Hicks tried to get the ball, but the returner fought it away from him.)
  • A holding penalty looked like it was going to doom the Browns' next drive, but a 14-yard run by James Davis and a neutral zone infraction on Cliff Avril allowed Davis to move the chains on third and short.  Brady Quinn did his best Stafford impression and overthrew Braylon Edwards downfield, but that was mainly because he was under heavy pressure.  A screen pass went for a small loss on second down, and Furrey couldn't pick up enough yards to move the chains on third down.
  • Daunte Culpepper entered the game and at first did nothing but hand the ball off to Jerome Felton, who moved the chains after having runs of 5, 4, and 2 yards.  Culpepper then moved the chains again for the Lions with a 20-yard pass to Dane Looker, who was just signed earlier this week.  A couple passes and an illegal contact penalty moved the ball all the way down to the Cleveland 36, but the drive didn't go much further than that.  Culpepper connected with Eric Fowler for 9 yards after two incompletions, but Aveion Cason was stuffed for a loss on 4th and 1.  Jeff Backus picked up a holding penalty anyways, but it sure didn't seem like much holding happened based on how quickly Cason was tackled.
  • Derrick Anderson came back into the game to run the Browns' 2-minute drill, but it was cut short when William James intercepted a pass that bounced off the hands of James Davis.  With only 5 seconds on the clock, the Lions decided to just get some points, and Swayze Waters came out and kicked a 51-yard field goal as the half ended, making the score 20-3.

3rd Quarter

  • After already picking up one third-down conversion, Culpepper looked like he was going to move the chains again on a pass to Cason out of the backfield.  Cason had enough for the first down, but he was hit hard and fumbled the ball away to Cleveland, killing the drive before it even had a chance to really get going.
  • Detroit and Cleveland proceeded to trade punts for a good part of the quarter until the Lions' defense stepped it up.  After applying pressure on quarterback Brett Ratliff a couple times, Dewayne White hit him and knocked the ball loose.  Andre Fluellen recovered the ball at the Cleveland 20, giving the Lions a great chance to start another comeback.
  • Drew Stanton came into the game and found Carson Butler wide open in the end zone for a touchdown on the one and only play of the drive.  Butler seems to be Stanton's favorite target, and it showed on that play, though anybody that open would be a favorite target of mine as well.
  • I really was starting to think that the Lions were going to preserve their perfect preseason record with another Stanton-led comeback, especially when they forced Cleveland into a 3rd and 12 situation.  Of course, in typical Lions fashion, they let James Davis turn a draw that should have gone for no gain into an 81-yard touchdown.  Two Lions missed tackles that would have ended the Browns' drive, but instead Davis ended the drive with a big touchdown that put Cleveland on top 27-10.

4th Quarter

  • A rather long drive for the Lions was going to end in a punt that was fair caught inside the 10, but an offside penalty on Cleveland put Detroit in field goal range.  Swayze Waters had enough distance on the ensuing 53-yard attempt, but it went wide right, giving the ball back to Cleveland.
  • The Lions got the ball back after a Browns three and out and started to move the ball.  Felton ran for 14 yards, and Aaron Brown caught a pass for 7.  Demir Boldin gained 15 on a catch, moving the Lions into Browns territory.  That was as far as they got, though.  Drew Stanton threw four straight incompletions, ending the drive and giving Cleveland the ball back.  The Browns ran the final 4:36 off the clock and won 27-10 in impressive fashion.  All it really took was the first part of the opening quarter for the Browns to win this game, but the Lions looked like they were on the verge of another comeback until that big James Davis TD run.  At that point, this game was as good as over.

The starting offense and defense both played very poorly in this game, not that you hadn't figured that out already.  Stafford struggled, and his receivers were even worse.  Culpepper looked pretty good, as did the Lions' offensive line for the most part.  The defensive line finally started to get some pressure on the quarterback after the first quarter, but by then the damage had already been done.  Poor play by the secondary and awful punt coverage led to the Browns' first two touchdowns and put this game out of reach early on. 

The Lions have a lot of work to do, and I am willing to bet practice won't be much fun next week.  Jim Schwartz looked pissed off all night, as he should be.  He got a first-hand look at why this team went 0-16 last year, and although many players from last year's team are gone, things didn't look much different last night. 

Detroit will look to rebound from this loss on next Saturday against the Colts.  Typically the third preseason game is when the starters play the longest, but we will have to wait and see what kind of rotation Schwartz decides to run.  Kickoff is set for 1 p.m., but since this is a home game, it will be blacked out until 7:00 p.m. locally.  You have to love the NFL's idiotic blackout policy that will force fans to watch the game six hours after it actually starts.  Not to mention, it will force fans to watch the low-quality WWJ broadcast instead of the nice HD one on NFL Network.

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So does that mean two threads again next week?

I liked the big thread today.

BTW, great writeup, as usual.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 23, 2009 6:59 AM EDT reply actions  

here's is how the Lions can turn it around

1. Do not EVER EVER EVER I CANNOT EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH— EVER TAKE AN SEC QB TO LEAD YOUR TEAM DANNY WUERFEL ANYONE? SEC OFFENSES ARE PRIMITIVE AND CAVE MAN LIKE, THEY JUST HAND OFF THE BALL AND RUN OVER VANDERBILT MISS ST WESTERN KENTUCKY CHARLESTON SOUTHERN AND THE REST OF THE JOKE TEAMS GEORGIA AND FLORIDA PLAY

2. Draft correctly!! stop drafting players from stillman and western michigan and use good draft sense
to build the team…the lions haven’t had a good draft since 1990…every preview mag I buy has their draft rated as a “C” or worse..every year…

by Ihatenotredame on Aug 23, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This will be interesting

I don’t think I can summon up the willpower to answer this, someone else can.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 24, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

…the Manning brothers and Jay Cutler are SOOO overrated! The Lions should scout nothing but MAC schools for quarterbacks from now on based solely on the success of Chad Pennington, Byron Leftwich and Ben Roethlesberger…better yet, maybe they should only draft quarterbacks in the 7th round so they can guarantee they get the next Tom Brady. No wait…I got it…send the scout staff touring Krogers around the world asking stock boys if they can throw like Kurt Warner.

Admittedly I should not have dignified this comment with a reply, as the esteemed Hyperion Ecta refrained, but WTF?! To borrow a phrase from Mr. OchoCinco “Child Please”!

by Mushy on Aug 24, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw in the box score we got 3 sacks.

No big deal, or did we atleast appear to be continuing to get heat on the QB. I like the live and die by the blitz mental state.

http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/

by CapitolLions on Aug 23, 2009 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Do the Jabber Jocks in the box and on the sidelines understand that on TV we can see the plays and do not need noise from them constantly? Especially when they don’t seem to know crap about what they are talking about?
… and the “hands” seem to still be a bad place to hit the receivers.

by Hagar on Aug 23, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Are the Browns good or are we really that bad

It seemed like they quit playing aggressively in the second half a we still couldn’t do much.

Bring back the Expos!

by CanadaTroll on Aug 23, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, Cleveland was shut out by GB last week

I think Quinn started, but I think we may be that bad, at least we were yesterday.

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by Sean Yuille on Aug 23, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

they had a fans poll on the D-troit home page last week...

everyone seemed to want to see sacks and pix improve…I voted to improve vs. “explosion plays” (like some 10-12% of the more intelligent of us) for the good it did…that’s what beat us…that’s what beat us last year.

by myPride on Aug 23, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

back to our losing

as soon as i saw the highlights i knew that this season was going to be very similar to last year. Stafford just isnt ready, and culpepper is a has been. another year in detroit…

by eddieo311 on Aug 23, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

good write up, bud,

sad story, but someone has to tell it

by myPride on Aug 23, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

now don't go saying "this season" yet, my friend,

last year proves that the preseason means “nothing”

by myPride on Aug 23, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I still think it is Stafford

A bad preseason game is a bad preseason game. The coaches know whether he made the correct reads and delivered the ball well. My hunch is he did more right than wrong last night.

I think Culpepper is the safe choice…like Cason. I know Cason had a fumble last night, but I don’t really associate that with him. I associate Cason with being “reliably average”. And that is what I see out of Culpepper too. I am not interested in a safe Lions season. I want to see progress and growing pains.

Cason on the field drives me nuts because I know exactly what is going to happen…Nothing special. The same (lesser degree) is how I feel watching Culpepper.

Stafford has superstar written all over him and I think he needs to keep learning on the field.

I hope they choose the path of greatest reward this season which is Stafford in my opinion. Culpepper handing off to Cason is not what I am looking for no matter consistent they are.

I don’t mind seeing failures this year as long as they are taking honest, intelligent risks to get somewhere a helluva lot better than “reliably average”.

by HoorayForEverything on Aug 23, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

And yes

I know average is better than awful, but I want awesome. And add some gratuitous alliteration.

by HoorayForEverything on Aug 23, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with you here

Culpepper has looked pretty good, but I do think that part of it has been him playing it safe on most plays. I don’t simply want a game manager out there. I want to see some spark… some flair. I want to see risks and the rewards associated with those risks. I think Culpepper is more than capable of playing with risks, but I think he feels that he can beat out Stafford by playing the conservative veteran that won’t turn the ball over.

Me personally… I can stomach a few interceptions as long as we are explosive on offense.

by DrewsLions on Aug 23, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'll see him take more risks and the offense be more explosive....

Once he is named the starter for week 1 and Megatron is back in the lineup, along with Northcutt and B. Johnson. Culpepper will not be handing the ball off to Cason either, as suggested by someone else above, he will be handing the ball to Kevin Smith. You have to admit it Drew, Daunte Culpepper has looked good. He has looked like the better QB so far. If he can manage the clock and not turn the ball over, playing conservatively while taking some shots downfield here and there, he will lead us to some wins. I would rather see him play conservatively (this is so weird, me arguing for conservatism) and not turn the ball over, giving our defense a chance to rest while methodically moving the ball at least into FG range, than throwing INTs left and right and forcing passes just for the sake of attempting to be explosive. We are not the Raiders and we do not need to live and die by the big play. We have one of the best kickers in the NFL…..why not let him do what he does best? We will score TDs too. It is inevitable. The kid is not ready, and there is no sense in forcing him into the pressure cooker when we have a veteran QB who can get the job done.

by KDawg on Aug 23, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh boy....

I may have to stay away from POD until Stafford rebounds in game 3. Look, Culpepper has been good. But that’s it. Just good. He’s looked fine. The problem is he is not methodically moving the ball down the field like you state above. He is dinking and dunking and picking up a first down here and there and then his drives are stalling. It’s not like he’s gone out and thrown a bunch of TD’s. In fact, he hasn’t gotten into the endzone yet. To say “the kids isn’t ready” because of last night’s performance is irritating at best. He sure seemed ready after week 1 didn’t he?

Let this thing play out… please? If anyone THINKS they know that Culpepper is that much better than Stafford after the past two outings, I can’t be onboard with that sentiment. Stafford was great one week and pretty awful the second week. Culpepper was slightly above average in both games. He’s looked in control, but hasn’t moved the chains very well. It’s a half dozen of one and six of the other. In my mind, there is no clear winner yet.

by DrewsLions on Aug 23, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said he was ready after week 1 (preseason)

I said he looked good, which he did. You need to look at the play by play, because it sounds to me like you just can’t admit being wrong. Culpepper was above average with the starters in the 1st preseason game and above average with the 2nd string too in the 2nd game. Stafford was above average with the 2nd string in the 1st game and horrible with the 1st team in the 2nd game. Culpepper not only attempted more deep passes than Stafford, but he actually completed one of them!! He “dink and dunked” to the tune of 4 other completions of 9 yards or more (9, 12, 13, and 14). I do not understand why you love this rookie so much….Daunte’s first drive of the game was 3 minutes and 32 seconds long and he moved the offense from the Detroit 14 to the CLE 27 yard line. They went for it on 4th down and Cason couldn’t get the 1st down. Who called that play again?

Daunte’s 2nd drive was going on 3 minutes long, from the Detroit 9 to the Detroit 45 yard line, when Cason fumbled the ball after catching a 7 yard pass for what would have been a 1st down.

Daunte’s 3rd drive was 3 and out (3 passes, One 5 yard completion)), but he threw a bomb on 3rd down in the vicinity of Billy McMullen that was damn near completed (it was McMullen).

That was it. Daunte Culpepper was effective and efficient in both games, regardless of whether or not we scored TDs. To think that we will not score TDs with him is crazy. Stafford’s first pass was nearly a pick 6! 2nd drive was 3 and out (1 min 44 secs from the DET 28 to the DET 33 yrd line), 3rd drive he got us 1 1st down and then 3 and out (2 mins 43 secs from the DET 22 to the DET 42 yrd line), 4th drive again he got us a 1st down and then went 3 and out (2 mins 9 secs from the DET 20 to the DET 27 yrd line)), 5th drive was 3 and out (1 min 37 secs from the DET 20 to the DET 28 yrd line). Who moved the ball better? That much is obvious.

by KDawg on Aug 23, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

KDawg...

I’m going to respectfully bow out of this one with you. I am not in love with the rookie, I just don’t see it the same as you do. For all your bashing of me loving Stafford, you do the same with Culpepper. It’s grown tiresome… you and I saying the same things over and over… trying to find clever ways to change it up.

For the record, I just finished watching both games for a second time. Culpepper was an average QB for both games. He did just enough, nothing more. I can tell you can’t see past that. I have already conceded that Stafford did not play well last night. The tape confirmed that. But to say Daunte has been this effective and efficient quarterback in both games… you are being biased. There’s no other way around it. I’ll say this… let the best man win. My whole thing with Stafford is about getting him experience. I’m not trying to slam every move that Culpepper makes like you are with Stafford. I believe that I have given the game film a very thorough, unbiased review and I think neither has separated from the contest. I’ll talk about this once the starter has been picked. I know that’s no fun, but I’m getting irritated at the bashing and don’t really want any part of it anymore.

by DrewsLions on Aug 24, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is....

I am not bashing anyone…..just stating that Culpepper is obviously the better QB right here and right now.

by KDawg on Aug 24, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obvious only to you, my friend

And the color of your lenses greatly influences that obviousness.

by DrewsLions on Aug 24, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Not obvious to only you and a few others who insist that Stafford is the man, the myth, and the legend. All I have to say at this point, beyond that, is that when all is said and done I believe my opinion will be backed by the decisions of the coaches when Culpepper starts next week and in week 1 against the Saints.

by KDawg on Aug 24, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

I’m just irritated that you think that the competition is over. You come off like you were just waiting for Stafford to screw up so you could pounce and go all “rah-rah” for Culpepper. What if Stafford is lights out at Indy and Buffalo and Culpepper is 2 more games of “blah”? What then?

I’ve given Culpepper an honest assessment and I’m all for him starting if he’s that much better. But like I’ve said numerous times… he hasn’t been that much better in a collective preseason context. Now don’t go all stat-crazy on me here. I"ve seen the stats. They mean something, but don’t tell the whole story. I know what I see on film and Culpepper has been far from great.

I like Stafford – true, but I’m honestly all for the best quarterback starting. You and a small handful of others are the only ones with your minds already made up on this. That’s why I’m showing a little irritation here. All I’ve been saying is let it play out before you crown Culpepper king and Stafford the goat. I think it’s all about you needing to be right. You’ve basically said as much in your comments on this. That makes it hard for me to discuss this issue with you any further… you’ve lost any objectivity that you once had.

by DrewsLions on Aug 24, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

n4ry4 already summed it up (several times and very well I might add)

And I have not lost my objectivity, I simply feel that the starter in game 3 will be the starter in week 1, and I feel that it will be Daunte Culpepper. Your opinion of what he looked like in the games and what I saw are definitely different. I saw a guy who was making smart throws and not forcing things in an attempt to impress the coaches. I saw a guy who completed over 60% of his passes, whose drives faltered because of poor play calling and a breakdown in blocking. I saw a guy who showed great poise and leadership every time he stepped on the field. I see a man who is dedicated to being the starter in Detroit, who got himself into great shape and who looks rejuvenated thus far.

I also see a rookie QB with great potential. I see a young man who is nervous and trying very hard to impress the coaching staff in an effort to win the starting job at QB. I see a young man who is inconsistent, making multiple rookie mistakes. That is expected, no doubt. I see a young man who has a great arm, who does a pretty good job of going through his progressions, and who is a budding leader. I see great potential in his poise, his demeanor, his ability, and his confidence, The key word there is “potential”. It is my opinion that he needs more time to develop.

I do not think the QB competition is necessarily “over”. However, at this point I feel that DC definitely has the edge. I think Daunte will have to really blow it in the next 2 preseason games to lose the starting job at this point. I also think that while he would be failing, Matt Stafford would have to be “lights out”. It is not my opinion that Culpepper has been “blah” at all so far. For him to have “two more games of blah” he would have already had to have 2 games of blah (and I disagree that he has).

Drew, it is not all about me being right or wrong. The fact that I think I am right does not hurt though….:o) I’m just a dumb fuc* washboy anyway….what do I know?

by KDawg on Aug 24, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cason is out of here

I can’t see him breaking the 53 man roster the with the players brought in.

by BtotheLT on Aug 23, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: Cason is out of here

While that seems to be the better move the Lions could make BtotheLT, the problem is that the Lions usually do cut him, but always bring him back – why I don’t know. Hopefully he is just filling a void during the preseason until Morris is healthy enough to back-up Smith. I honestly can’t see him beating out Morris for the back-up job, much less beating out rookie Aaron Brown considering the level of talent Brown displayed in the first preseason game. Hopefully, if you are correct, they WILL cut Cason and leave him on waivers where he belongs.

by rmh820 on Aug 24, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that is Ford Quality job security for you.

by BtotheLT on Aug 24, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

the game i was there ....

to me this lost makes us realize the faults in our D’ and that the ROOKIE cant read the D .. daunte got in and showed that he can reconize the "d’ they were in an blitz and he didnt even change the formation to a shot gun.. he needs to sit .. when i saw stanton ou therehe looked good . thats what a little sit down time will do for you .. stafford is young .. even brady quinn looked good.. they need to sit him down for season to get him right before they loose another good player to injury .. they cant stop the run .. and the pass up the middle .. not to mention all of our WR were hurt ..

by A. ROBINSON on Aug 23, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Same oooooold Lions

In context to the first team: Stafford needs to see the ball into Kevin Smiths hands. Its obvious how bad the DBs looked in coverage. Louis Delmas made some good contributions against the run.
 
IMO

by BtotheLT on Aug 23, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

It amazes me at some of the reactions on this site

Last week, the talk was of playoffs and Stafford starting and having a winning record. Now, everyone is saying “same old Lions” and the rookie can’t handle it. Whoever thought the Lions would go through pre-season like a team that has fully gelled is an idiot. This Lions team is a work in progress, it’s probably not even half built yet. We have pieces, some very young pieces, that need to develop into quality NFL starters and that’s gonna take time. It’s also gonna lead to our fair share of bad games, and that’s what happened yesterday, we had a bad game.

We still have 2 whole games of pre-season, which may or may not turn out like our last game. I know that I will reserve my judgements on this team and it’s players until the end of pre-season, where we can properly evaluate the players we’ve seen.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 23, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Right on the money, Hyperion

We’ve got to realize that it’s going to take time. That’s what my post today was all about. I just couldn’t believe the bashing… especially for Stafford. Yeah, he didn’t play well, but he went from hero to goat in a week.

by DrewsLions on Aug 24, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will be a tough year

Its going to be a tough year.Had to know that rebuilding this team isn’t going to happen over night.We will be competitive in some games and not in others.Way to many holes to fill in one year.I would like to see Stanton with the first team ofense.Mainly because it looks like he has learned a lot over the last couple of years.His legs are a bonus we can use which is something I’m not seeing out of the other two.Can’t really evaluate the offense real well until first recievers are playing.I like the aggresive style deffense.Only a couple of missed tackles away from looking preiiy good.Special teams concerns me.We were week last year in coverage and I don’t see any improvement.Return game will be better I think no way Cason can be part of that this year with some of the speed we’ve aquired through the draft and free agents.I think it will be more intertaining than last year,but a tough year none the less.Swartz is headed in the right direction will take time.

by hammy85 on Aug 23, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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