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Lions Uncaged: Looking at the Offense

Matthew Stafford and Daunte Culpepper warm up during the Lions' practice at Ford Field.

15,387 people were at Ford Field yesterday afternoon for Lions Uncaged.  Fans had a chance to meet the players and head coach Jim Schwartz prior to the practice, as they signed autographs.  From what I saw, the lines were extremely long, but once fans actually had a chance to meet the players or Schwartz, the wait was probably worth it.  After the autograph session concluded, the players went down to the locker room and got ready for a 2-hour long practice that included 1-on-1 and 7-on-7 drills, full team drills, and one live contact session at the end.

Below is the first part of my recap of the event, which looks at how the offense performed.

Offense

As you can imagine, I focused on the play of the quarterbacks quite a bit.  The biggest question right now is who will be the Lions' starting quarterback, and after what I watched, it's even harder to predict who will be at the top of the depth chart when the regular season begins.  As I mentioned on Twitter, the majority of people calling in to 97.1 FM The Ticket after the practice thought Culpepper played better.  I personally didn't see it that way, though.  Neither Culpepper nor Matthew Stafford played that much better than one another.  They were pretty even in my mind, though it's tough to judge them based on a few drills where they couldn't even take a hit.  After all, both players seemed to keep playing when they would have been sacked, such as when Culpepper hit Calvin Johnson for a long touchdown pass.  The crowd erupted, but Culpepper would have been sacked if contact was allowed.  That was the case for each QB on a few occasions, though.

Like their overall play, Stafford and Culpepper were pretty even as far as their passing went.  Stafford definitely throws a nice, tight spiral that can accurately be described as a bullet.  I'd probably give him the edge over Culpepper in that respect, but not by much.  The biggest positive about Culpepper I noticed was how in shape he now looks.  The 30 pounds or so he dropped in the offseason is noticeable, as he looks a lot better than when he joined the Lions last season.  If it weren't for showing that type of dedication in the offseason, it probably would be a no-brainer to start Stafford, as I wouldn't have too much faith in an out of shape QB trying to compete for a starting job.  Since Culpepper showed that dedication, though, this QB race is pretty even in my opinion.

Star-divide

It seems like I'm ignoring Drew Stanton, but I don't think he is a viable candidate in this QB competition.  Although Lions coaches have split the reps equally so far, I guess I don't see starting potential in Stanton.  Don't get me wrong, he looked pretty good yesterday and much improved compared to a year ago, but Stafford and Culpepper are a level up from him as far as ability goes.  One example of that is having patience in the pocket.  Stanton still takes off too quickly after not finding an open man, whereas Stafford and Culpepper seemed more apt to wait for the play to develop.  More experience will help Stanton gain more patience, but I doubt that experience will be as a starting QB. 

Moving on to the running back position, there wasn't a whole lot that stood out.  Kevin Smith had a nice run where he made a move to the outside, but that was pretty much it.  Since most of the practice was non-contact, it was tough to tell when a run would have ended.  Defenders sometimes came in and wrapped up the RB, but other times they simply stopped when a hit would have usually been made.  Because of that, it was tough to get a good look at the running backs.

The one player that did stand out and kept making great play after great play was actually fullback Jerome Felton.  He steamrolled a defender on one run, plowing through the defense for a solid gain.  On another occasion, he absolutely lit up Cliff Avril on a block that opened up a huge hole for the running back.  It seemed like every big it involved Felton, and he was the one delivering the hit, both as a blocker and as a runner.  I have to say, he had a certain swagger about him that makes it seem like he will be the team's starting FB this year.

The wide receiver position really starts and ends with Calvin Johnson.  It was amazing to see how much bigger he is compared to his teammates.  Looking at him stand next to Dennis Northcutt was quite the sight, as it looked like he had a foot on him height-wise.  I guess that is why Northcutt is a slot receiver, as he seemed pretty small.  Standing next to Megatron will do that, though, and on the field he just is on another level when it comes to athleticism.  Defenders had a tough time doing much with Calvin, as he made catches even when they were draped all over him.

The rest of the receivers did not impress me too much.  There were a lot of dropped passes (Eric Fowler had a few of them), as has been mentioned throughout the first week of training camp.  Route running also wasn't too great by a couple players, most notably Derrick Williams.  I hope his return skills are better than his receiving skills, because I was not impressed with him at all.  Maybe it's because he tried to fight Eric King at one point during practice (King didn't let go of him immediately after the whistle blew and the two got into it), but I really wasn't impressed with what Williams did at receiver.

There's not much to say about the tight ends, as Brandon Pettigrew and Casey FitzSimmons didn't practice.  Dan Gronkowski has good hands, which is a major plus when you consider how many of the pass-catchers have a case of butterfingers.  Will Heller didn't drop any passes from what I saw, either.  The newly-signed Carson Butler caught a touchdown from Drew Stanton and was in on a couple other plays.

I don't have much to say about the offensive line for two reasons: 1) I didn't watch them very closely; 2) Even if I had, the majority of their time on the field was spent in individual drills.  When they did participate in the full-team drill, it seemed like the defensive line was getting good penetration, both when the offense ran the ball and when they passed it.  As mentioned earlier, there were a lot of times when the QB would have been sacked if contact was allowed.  When running the ball, at least half of the plays had to have gone for no gain or a loss.  Sometimes the defensive line was in the backfield when the handoff was being made.  If that is any indication, the O-line still has a lot of work to do.  Again, I can't give you a great assessment of how they played, but I think it's a good thing we are still a month removed from the regular season.

Next up I will look at the defense and special teams.

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Start day 1, trade Culpepper for sack of balls

by BlueTommy on Aug 9, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the Info Sean.

I’m down with Daunte! I think the lack of improvement on the offensive line is the best reason why. You don’t wanna break your “Shiny New Toy” two days after Christmas, (That Sucks). The level of COMMITMENT Daunte has shown is impressive. To come into camp this year in the shape he’s in, (After Last Season Especially) shows that CPEP is determined to start again in this league.
And why not? Give him a shot, if it doesn’t work you got a hell of a White Knight on a Shiny Horse to ride in and save the day. (It won’t work the other way around, if you start Stafford you can’t pull him to play Daunte.)

by j16941 on Aug 9, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I couldn’t agree more J. If the offense is horrendous early we need to leave culpepper in until we get consistent. If the offense is horrendous though because his qb rating is low then we can make a change. I predict this O-line will struggle mightily unless Pettigrew proves to be a beast and Gosder has a breakout year. Losing Cook hurts too. I don’t want to see number 9 end up like my boy Tim Couch. Start Pepp until he gives you a reason to bench him.

What’s up with wide receiver by the way? I really worry that Calvin will have a tough year if we can’t get a solid number two. Why couldn’t we grab Amani Toomer? I like Keary Colbert and Standeford but I don’t think they are every down wide receivers and I am 90% sure that Bryant Johnson wont finish the season if he starts it. He is aged and weak. He never was great. It sounds like Derrick Williams isn’t what we are looking for either. Is there any wide-outs we can still grab?

by MisplacedFanREID on Aug 9, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll be allright at WR

We need to pound the rock! 65% run, 35% pass. Half those passes to Megatron. The rest to Pettigrew, Northcutt and BJ.

It’s an efficient, safe, conservative game plan, that eats up the clock, and keeps our D rested. I like the duo of Smith and Morris, and if Felton is that good, we should be fine.

by Brefstink on Aug 9, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

Rosenberg from freep.com listed 3 things that should happen before Stafford should start:
1. Lions win a game. Idea is to take the pressure of the 0-16 season off of Stafford.
2. Lions are out of playoff contention. Idea is if Pepper gets them off to a good start, then is benched in favor of the Rookie, there will be a lot of disappointment shouldered by Stafford if Lions fortunes head South and they miss the playoffs.

The third is an obvious one that Schwarz includes. But, I havent seen the first two kicked around very often. I’m not necessarilly a Rosenberg fan, just giving him the proper credos.

by jimoska on Aug 10, 2009 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

"committment"

Whoops, sorry, accidentally posted just the title.

Anyway, it wasn’t like Culpepper just decided to lose weight, Schwartz told him he had to. And the answer to "why not’ is “why?” Why let Culpepper take all these first-team reps if you KNOW he’s going to be on the bench in, at most, seven weeks, and on some other roster come next year? Stafford’s the man, he’s ready, he’s at least as good as Culpeper right now, and the offensive line isn’t going to get any better between now and Week 9.

Peace
Ty @ The Lions in Winter

http://thelionsinwinter.blogspot.com

by ty@thelionsinwinter on Aug 10, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I’m fully prepared to see Matthew break Manning’s rookie interception record(not that I want to, but I’m ready for it). If Culpepper starts the regular season, he’s going to be getting the majority of snaps at practice. I do not agree with slowing the development of the entire team because you want your short term, stop-gap, quarterback to take all the heat, while your team continues to “build”. Stafford playing right away, getting exp. is just as important to the rebuilding process as anything else, surrounding talent, etc.

And like Stafford doesn’t have weapons…come on.

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by BIGWalt2990 on Aug 10, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good report Sean..

Happy to hear about Felton. Hope he can open up some holes for K. Smith. It has been a long time since the Lions have had a fullback can lite up some LBs while our RB runs by. Glad the TE’s can caught. Stafford will need some check down options when he starts week #1. I am sure you agree with me on that KDawg : )

by JCruize on Aug 9, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice work, Sean... wish I could have been there.

Been trying to swing a day to get down there and see things for myself, but this is the next best thing. Great, honest analysis… it’s very much appreciated.

by DrewsLions on Aug 9, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting insights

Seems as if CJ and Felton where the most impressive, which is great. Especially happy about Felton since I think a good FB will really help our run game, which by the looks, needs a bit of help in the blocking department.

Can’t wait for the right up on the D.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 9, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Felton..

There we go…Thats what I’m talking about!

http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/

by CapitolLions on Aug 9, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Watched on Fox

…and I agree with your O-line assessment. It was very hard to tell, as the coverage was more of a Lions Advertisement than it was a coverage of the practice. But, in the full-team drills, the d-line was getting through consistently. This is bad for two reasons: 1) I thought our line would be better with Loper and Gosder’s progression and 2) they were going against our [presumably] awful defensive line.

But, who knows. Maybe our defensive line is just a lot better than we thought. Yeah, lets go with that.

by simscity on Aug 10, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

Perhaps…
the sack totals had more to do with the O-Line, and not as much to do with poor QB’s and coaching. So

by jimoska on Aug 10, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

let us know...

when they start “poppin” the pads! That’s where the differences will stand out.

In my opinion: Sit Stafford, let him develop and progress to the NFL level- and let Culpepper take the beating this year. Culpepper is a big, solid dude and should be able to take the sacks that this line may give up.

The D is going to be much improved this year… I’m just excited about giving up less than 40 on Turkey day!!

JJ Fe

by Rydaddy617 on Aug 10, 2009 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Stafford vs. Culpepper

It, of course, is the age old question in the NFL – start or sit a rookie and there are compelling reasons that can be made on both sides of this argument. In my opinion I have seen too many Lion rookie QB’s not make it if they start immediately or sometime in the beginning of the season (Long, Ware, Harrington, etc.) so I say let Culpepper take the abuse from our weak offensive line and let Stafford sit for the year.

by NYCLionsfan on Aug 10, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

released LB

Curtis Gatewood. and they brought back undrafted rookie LB spenser smith.

by Twincities88 on Aug 10, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks again Sean, Nice to hear good things about the lesser known players like Felton.

The Lions will need solid contributions from guys like him to exceed expectations. Hopefully Linehan can use him more frequently than Lions have used FBs in the recent past.

by NorthLeft12 on Aug 10, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Jason Hanson is a hero...

Megatron is an undeniable threat,
Kevin Smith is a source of pride,
Stafford is “a new hope” (think of Star Wars)
and THIS IS A NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by myPride on Aug 11, 2009 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Whay about our D?

No love for them?

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Aug 11, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

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