On Paper: Saints vs.Lions
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On Paper is a new segment where I take a look at the Lions' weekly matchup and dissect each unit. At the end of each unit summary, instead of giving a typical "Advantage Lions" or "Advantage New Orleans", I award one of the teams with a point value of 1-5 (or give it a draw). These point values are based both on talent and the influence that this unit matchup will have on the game outcome. In other words, if there is a big discrepancy in talent in New Orleans' passing game and Detroit's passing defense (there is), and I expect the Saints to throw the ball often (they will), that will result in a large number. However, if there is a big gap in talent, but I don't expect it to be a game changer, the value will be low. So don't expect to see any special teams values of four or five, unless a team has six Devin Hesters going against ten Aveion Casons. At the end, I'll add up the numbers and it should give some insight to the final result of the game.
Detroit Passing Offense vs. New Orleans passing defense
In what promises to be the most exciting part of the Lions team this year, the passing offense looks to have many weapons. The biggest weapon, Calvin Johnson, will be an elite wide receiver this year. Alongside him are newly acquired Bryant Johnson and slot receiver Dennis Northcutt. Both are solid options, but we didn't get a good look of them in the preseason to see how they'll fit into this offense. Oh yeah, they have this guy named Matthew Stafford, too.
Although New Orleans struggled with pass defense last year (ranked 10th worst), they completely revamped their secondary in the offseason. The Saints picked up S Darren Sharper and CB Jabari Greer, who many Lions fans begged for in the offseason. Sharper, who is entering his 13th season, is on the decline, but brings a veteran mind to the table. Greer should improve this unit, although is not considered a shut-down corner. The Saints also drafted CB Malcolm Jenkins in the draft. He'll be an impact player down the line, but on Sunday, according to beat-writer Jeff Duncan, he will only contribute on special teams.
In terms of quarterback pressure, the Lions have to worry about two solid defensive ends in Will Smith and Charles Grant. Smith (a one-time pro bowler) will line up against Jeff Backus and promises to keep him busy. Prior to last season, Smith averaged over eight sacks a season. Last year he struggled and only finished with three but could easily rebound this year. Similarly, Grant was once a double-digit sacker, but in the last four years, he hasn't amassed more than six in a single season. Second-year Gosder Cherilus may be able to contain him.
Overview: The Saints pressure does not worry me too much in this matchup. The Saints' secondary promises to be better than last year, but there is no defense for Calvin Johnson. Stafford's first professional game is a pretty good matchup. The Saints are going to come after him, but they don't have a ton of weapons to blitz effectively, so Stafford may be able to stay on his feet for most of the day. He'll likely make an ugly mistake or two, but I expect him to be able to move the ball fairly well through the air. The Lions get a +1. It could be more, but I expect the Lions run game to be more important to this offense on Sunday.
Detroit Rushing Offense vs. New Orleans Rushing Defense
Kevin Smith looked solid in the preseason, as did the offensive line (in run blocking). The Lions suffer a minor blow as RG Stephen Peterman didn't practice on Friday and is likely out (listed as questionable). Manny Ramirez (not that one) would take his place, and is not really a huge step down in talent.
However, the Saints have a big force in DT Sedrick Ellis that could cause him some trouble. Ellis is not huge at 6'1" 307, but proved he can be disruptive in his rookie season with four sacks in 13 games.
The Saints linebacking core is not overly impressive. Jonathan Vilma in the middle is impressive, but their outside linebackers leave something to be desired. If Smith breaks into the second level, he could turn a four yard gain into 15.
Overview: The Lions will likely try to control the clock and keep Drew Brees out of the game by hammering the Saints' rush defense. If the Lions can contain Ellis with effective double teams, this might actually possible. The matchup isn't ideal, but if all things go right, this could be a huge advantage for the Lions. Since I'm still not sold on the offensive line, I'll give the Lions a modest +2 in this category.
NO Pass Offense vs. Detroit Pass D
I could beat you to death with all the amazing stats that Brees put up last year, but we all know how great he is. This matchup is a game-killer for the Lions. Brees and his solid crew of receivers aside, perhaps the most impressive part of the Saints offense is their protection. In the past two years, the Saints have attempted the most passes while allowing the least amount of sacks. This is troubling news for a defensive line who has struggled to put pressure on the quarterback throughout the preseason.
Gunther Cunningham's only option as defensive coordinator is to bring the heat as much as possible. He does have a reputation as an aggressive play caller, but even he will have to step it up a notch to find success on Sunday. One point of attack Cunningham should consider is the left tackle position, where starter Jammal Brown is sidelined after undergoing hip surgery. Still, the Lions have yet to get consistent pressure from DEs Cliff Avril and DeWayne White.
Perhaps the only silver lining for Detroit is Phillip Buchanon, who intercepted Brees twice last season, including a pick six (seen here). However, both of these picks were the result of quarterback pressure, and not particularly great coverage by Buchanon. Also, Buchanon is listed as questionable for Sunday, though I think he'll play.
Overview: This is going to be ugly. The Lions have had a terrible pass defense for the last few years, and although they have more threats this year (like Louis Delmas), it won't be enough for the best passing threat in the league. The Saints will put the ball up early and often, and unless Cunningham comes up with a magical playbook, they're going to succeed. I'd be shocked if Brees doesn't put up at least 330 yards through the air. Saints +5.
NO Rush Offense vs. Detroit Rush Defense
The Lions catch a break, as Pierre Thomas lost his battle with a fence this week and is out. Former Bronco Mike Bell takes his place and should see a number of carries. Bell doesn't pose much of a threat, but I hear this Reggie Bush guy is kind of good. Although his rushing abilities are still under question, the Lions still have to worry about his big play ability.
The Lions counter with a poor defensive line, but much improved linebackers. The interior line features new addition Grady Jackson, who will be a force, but his age prevents him from being an every down player. According to the official depth chart, rookie Sammie Lee Hill will line up next to him. Although I don't put much credence into this depth chart, it is a bit surprising that the big man out of Stillman College is considered starting material on this roster. Hill's last regular season game was against powerhouse Fort Valley State.
The linebackers, however, may do a good job filling the gaps left by the defensive line. Ernie Sims has the potential to have a big day, as he can now roam free with solid linebackers aside him.
Overview: Though the Lions may have a slight advantage due to Thomas' injury, this matchup is likely a non-factor. The Saints will run the ball rarely. The only way this matchup comes into play is if the Lions need a stop in the fourth quarter and the Saints stupidly try to run the clock out. Therefore the matchup is a push: 0.
Special Teams
The Lions don't really know what's going on with their special teams unit. Derrick Williams was drafted for his punt return abilities, but literally dropped the ball when given the opportunity to show off his skills. If healthy, Buchanon will take his spot, if not Northcutt will likely assume the role. The Lions appear to have a legitimate threat with Aaron Brown returning kicks. Though he hasn't broken one free, he has proven that he has breakaway speed when playing the running back in the preseason.
Bush will return punts for the Saints, which should give Lions fans heart attacks. Lions kick/punt coverage has been notoriously bad for the last years. Special Teams coach Stan Kwan has become synonymous with death. The Lions look like they'll struggle again this year, as they allowed Roscoe Parrish to return a kickoff and a punt for a touchdown in a preseason game (kickoff was called back).
The Saints welcome back John Carney as their kicker, after playing around with a couple different kickers last season. Carney is solid enough to not have to worry about him, as is the Lions' counterpart Jason Hanson. Hanson is coming off a leg injury, but should be ready to go on Sunday.
Overview: The Saints get the slight advantage because of Bush and Stan Kwan. Bush has a chance to break one, but it's almost impossible to predict. Saints +1.
Total:
Saints end up a +3 after all is said and done: a much lower total than I was expecting. The Lions do have a chance in this game if they control the clock, much like they did in the preseason game against the pass-heavy Colts. Keeping Brees off the field should be the Lions #1 priority coming into Sunday. However, when Brees eventually gets on the field, things will get ugly. The only shot the Lions have on Sunday is to pressure Brees into turning the ball over. If the Lions come out of the game with a turnover margin of +2 or +3 or +30, they have a chance. However, if Stafford struggles early or turns the ball over himself, this game could end in the first quarter, much like last year.
Bascially, I see two possible scenarios of this game.
1. The Lions control the clock and put up a good amount of points. But when they need a stop in the fourth quarter, they don't get it and lose by a possession.
2. The Lions struggle out of the gate and Stafford looks flustered. They give up a big deficit in the first quarter, abandon the running game, and are never able to recover.
So my prediction is 27-21 or 38-17 Saints. Copout? Probably. But it's the first week of the season.
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dang alot to read
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Kevin Smith let em kno, Ernie Sims Break em, Calvin Johnson you already Kno
2009 Detroit Lions 6-10 to 8-8
by DetroitLions 4 life on Sep 12, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
Excellent Post Sim!!!
I’m bucking the trend, whats the Vegas saying if the crowds bets the favorite put your money on the under dog… The entire country is betting the Saints I’m taking the Lions
The OC calls a good game plan running often till Stafford gets his feet wet, once the run takes off, they pull a saftey into the box to help out and that’s when CJ burns them for a 50 yard plus T.D.
Gunner also has a simple plan, stop the run and Blitz,Blitz, Blitz. Brees will pass for almost 400 yards but all the Blitzs will force him into 2 picks, Saints have under 50 yards rushing for the game.
Stats for the game
Stafford 300 yards passing 2 TD 1 int
Smith 90 yards rushing 1 TD
Felton 50 yards rushing 1 TD
C.J. 9 rec, 200 yard game 2 TD
Game: Lions 37 Saints 27
This is great
Definitely deserves a rec. But one thing to account for when talking about special teams, the Saints are fielding a rookie punter. This could be a big factor for us as it allows us to have good starting field position most of the time. It’s a very underrated part of the game, but the difference between starting on the 20 and starting on the 35 is huge. I see us keeping it close ,and it’ll be tied or within one possession by halftime, but the Saints pull away in the 4th quarter
34-20
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
Nice post simscity
I will enjoy looking at these post as the year goes on.
I agree with your breakdown for the most part. The one area I might question is the o-line play in the pre season. It is true they seam to play well but it was the pre season. other teams played defense like the Lions, very generic. I think they will play better than last season but its hard for me to commit to a plus 1 and plus 2 respectively. Thats my opinion and thinking level headed.
However, the Lions fan in me says its a new season and anything can happen. I think the Lions offense plays control the ball and keeps Brees off the field. The Lions win a close one 31-28.
Nice post once again and pass me another kool-aid. GO LIONS!!!!!!!!!!!
Great Post!
Maybe we can make waiver claims on the fence that beat Pierre Thomas and the golf cart that beat Bryant Johnson.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
Good stuff Sims
It looks to be a definite offensive game this Sunday. I have no doubt that Brees and his Saints will put points on our rather weak defence, the question however lies with Stafford and K-Smooth’s ability to both control the TOP and get the better of the Saints D. Personally, I think we may struggle a bit, probably not putting on enough points to keep up. I’m thinking 35 – 17 to NO.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Man I'm on a michigan high right now so that is my disclaimer.
Lions go down to N.O. We keep it respectable in the first half(key to game) and then come out in the end Lions over Saints in a shocker (remember we are playoff bound) 49-42 The world get a shot of penicilan cause we got a Staff Infection going in Michigan. GOOOOOOOOOOO LLLLLLIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOONNNS.
good article, right up to the prediction
it seems that we jaded fans are more concerned with looking stupid than actually getting behind our team and showing REAL suppport. Week one and the most loyal of us (assumedly, as you all put up the blogs, maintain the sites, etc.) cannot bring themselves to say – even in mock confidence – that we have a chance at winning. Not as bad as the “church of schwartz” (which doesn’t even merit capitolization), but bad enough.
I think the game will be a shootout, with the team that’s able to pull off the big Defensive play (US, of course) winning. LIONS 31 – ’AINTS 27

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