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Drive-By-Drive Breakdown of Saints' 45-27 Win Over Lions

Here is a drive-by-drive look at how the Saints beat the Lions by a score of 45-27.

1st Quarter

  • The Saints got the ball first and basically picked up where they left off when they played the Lions last year.  After Robert Meachem got the game started with a 42-yard return, Drew Brees started his career day with a 14-yard pass to Devery HendersonReggie Bush followed that up with a catch that went for 26 yards, moving the Saints deep into Lions territory.  A couple players later it was 3rd and 5, and Brees found Marques Colston for a 9-yard touchdown.
  • The Lions quickly went three and out, and the Saints hit the end zone just as fast.  Already having good field position, the Saints moved into Lions territory with a couple of plays that went for 7 yards, and on the next play Brees found a wide open Meachem for a 39-yard touchdown.  Just like that, the Saints led 14-0.
  • Matthew Stafford got the ball moving for the Lions by starting their next drive with a 21-yard pass to Calvin JohnsonJerome Felton moved the chains again by plowing forward for a gain of 4 on 3rd and 1.  Kevin Smith picked up 12 on the next play, and then Aaron Brown came in and ran for 9 yards on a pitch to the outside.  That followed an incompletion, setting up another 3rd and 1.  This time Scott Linehan called for a toss to Smith, who was tackled for a loss of 4 yards.  Jason Hanson nailed a 47-yard field goal right down the middle of the uprights to give the Lions' their first points of the game.

Star-divide

  • The Lions defense caught a break on the Saints' next drive and finally forced a punt.  After a false start gave the Saints a 3rd and long, Brees found Henderson for what appeared to be close to a first down.  Henderson ran backwards, though, and ended up losing the first down and forcing a punt.
  • Just like their first drive of the game, the Lions went three and out.  Nick Harris boomed a punt 55 yards, and Reggie Bush was unable to get anything on the return.  This would be important, as it pinned the Saints back at their 12-yard line.
  • For the second drive in a row the Lions' defense forced a punt, though this time they made a play to keep the Saints from moving the chains.  Eric King, who filled in for an injured Phillip Buchanon, got a hand on a Brees pass just as it was being hauled in by Colston.  The break-up happened on 3rd and 3, and the ensuing punt turned out to be a huge play for the Lions.  Dennis Northcutt caught the punt at the Lions' 39, and it looked like the Saints expected him to call for a fair catch.  He didn't, and that seemed to catch the Saints off guard a bit.  As a result, he darted up the field past a few Saints players and suddenly had nothing but open field in front of him.  By the time he was pushed out of bounds, Northcutt had returned the punt all the way down to the Saints' 13.
  • 2nd Quarter

    • The Lions faced 3rd and 8 as the second quarter began, and Stafford found Smith on a dump off for a gain of 7.  Jim Schwartz called a timeout to talk things over and ultimately decided to go for it.  With Felton in the backfield, the Saints were definitely keying in on the big man in this situation.  With that in mind, Stafford faked a handoff to him and pitched it outside to Smith, who was able to walk into the end zone for a 4-yard touchdown.  This was a great play call and cut the Saints' lead down to 4 points.
    • The Saints started to get the ball moving on the proceeding drive, this time by handing the ball off to Mike Bell.  The drive came to an abrupt end, however, when Bell was handed the ball and then tossed it back to Brees for a flea flicker.  Brees heaved the ball downfield to Henderson, who had a few Lions around him.  Anthony Henry ended up catching the ball for the interception and returned it to the Detroit 24.
    • As good as the play calling was on the Lions' last drive, it was very suspect on their next one.  With a 3rd and 4, Stafford handed the ball off to Smith, who was stopped for no gain.  While 3rd and 4 isn't always a passing situation, I don't understand the call considering Detroit was struggling to run so much.  It seemed like Scott LInehan was keeping Stafford from trying to make a play.
    • The Saints slowly (for them, anyway) moved the ball down the field and converted three third downs along the way.  The first two kept the drive alive and the last one was a 1-yard touchdown pass to Jeremy Shockey.
    • After picking up a first down, the Lions' next drive came to a halt when Stafford was sacked for a loss of 7 yards. 
    • The Saints wasted little time in scoring another touchdown, this time taking 4 plays and only 1:11 to revisit the end zone.  All it took was a 20-yard pass to Lance Moore, a 6-yarder to Bush, another pass to Moore (this time for 18 yards), and finally a 15-yarder to Shockey in the end zone.  Shockey juggled the ball but gained possession of it just in time to get two feet down inbounds. 
    • With 1:10 left in the half, it looked like the Lions were going to have time to put together a scoring drive.  Well, that would have been true if they were able to move the chains at all, but they weren't able to and had to punt after going three and out.  Reggie Bush bailed the Lions out by fumbling the punt, though, and Darnell Bing quickly fell on the ball to give the Lions possession at the NO 15.
    • With a great chance to cut the lead down before halftime, the Lions quickly squandered this opportunity.  Following a false start by Jeff Backus, Stafford threw a terrible pass into coverage and was picked off.  The interception was returned all the way to the Lions' 30-yard line, giving the Saints a shot at adding to their lead.
    • The Saints really weren't able to move the ball save a roughing the passer penalty on Landon Cohen, but they still had a shot at kicking a 34-yard field goal.  Dewayne White broke through the line on the kick and blocked it, however, basically bailing out Stafford and keeping this a 28-10 score at the half.

    3rd Quarter

    • The Lions got the ball to start the second half and quickly faced 3rd and 6.  Stafford found Calvin Johnson in the middle of the field for what looked like it was going to be a decent gain that moved the chains.  As we all know, Johnson can turn any catch into a big gain, and that's exactly what he did on this play.  Johnson broke a couple tackles and sprinted down the sideline for what appeared to be a 67-yard touchdown.  A referee ruled that Johnson stepped out of bounds at the 3, however, basically keeping the points off the board.  Replays clearly showed that Johnson stayed inbounds, but the play wasn't reviewable because it was blown dead at the 3.  That made no sense considering Johnson scored immediately after he supposedly stepped out, and what's more is that no one was near him at that point anyway.  Regardless, the Lions now had to punch the ball into the end zone, which proved to be a difficult task.

      Smith and Felton got the ball on first and second down and were unable to score.  Needing 2 yards to get into the end zone, Stafford threw a fade to Calvin, who was covered by two defenders.  The pass was incomplete, but it looked like Johnson was interfered with.  The refs didn't see it that way, but they did flag Darren Sharper for a personal foul instead.  It seemed like an extremely weak call, but they did owe the Lions for the awful call earlier in the drive.  With a new set of downs, Smith again was stuffed at the line.  He had the ball stolen from him by a Saints defender, but the play was already blown dead.  This time Charles Grant was called for a personal foul after the play, giving the Lions another new set of downs.  Stafford took it himself on a QB sneak this time around, finally getting the Lions into the end zone for a touchdown.
    • Only trailing by 11 points, the Lions needed to come up with a stop.  They did just that by holding the Saints to a 20-yard field goal, which actually was a victory for the Lions' defense after New Orleans marched right down the field.
    • Aaron Brown showed just how dangerous he can be on the proceeding kickoff by taking it back 87 yards to the Saints' 12.  Brown seemed to run out of gas at the end of the return, which is why he was caught from behind.  Even so, the Lions had a golden opportunity to cut the lead down to a touchdown, which is what looked like would happen after Stafford hit Casey FitzSimmons for an 11-yard gain.  Just like before, though, the Lions struggled to get the ball into the end zone when near the goal line.  Smith was stuffed on first down, and Daniel Loper was called for a false start prior to second down.  That proved to be a crushing blow, as the Lions were forced to kick a field goal two incompletions later.  Hanson nailed it from 24 yards out, but not getting a touchdown on this drive was a huge disappointment.
    • That disappointment only worsened when Brees hit Henderson in stride for a 58-yard touchdown on the first and only play of the next drive.  This put the Saints on top 38-20 and gave them all of the momentum.
    • It seemed like the Lions were as good as dead when Stafford was picked off on 3rd and 10, giving the Saints the ball at Detroit's 30.  That outlook quickly changed, however, as Cohen punched the ball loose from Mike Bell on the very next play.  Louis Delmas picked it up and ran it back 65 yards for a touchdown, making this an 11-point game yet again.

    4th Quarter

    • The Saints put this game out of reach by taking 8 minutes off the clock and scoring on a 13-yard pass to Heath Evans.  Evans is a fullback and scored off a screen, which put the Lions' defense completely out of position.  New Orleans led by a score of 45-27 at this point and had it all but wrapped up after Stafford was picked off again on the Lions' next drive.  Detroit was moving the ball down the field again, but Stafford threw another bad pass and was intercepted for the third time in this game.
    • The Saints ran the final 5 minutes off the clock to seal their 45-27 win.  They could have hit the 50-points mark, but a holding penalty took a Reggie Bush touchdown off the board.  That made the final score a little less embarrassing, though it is still tough to look at.

    When it boils down to it, the Lions did put up a fight today and looked worlds better than they did last year against the Saints.  Drew Brees still was able to sit back in the pocket, take his time, and shred the Lions' defense, and yes, the Lions' offense struggled quite a bit as well outside of a drive or two.  What really made this a close game at one point was the punt return by Dennis Northcutt, the kick return by Aaron Brown, and the Delmas fumble return for a TD.  Outside of those plays that led to points, the Lions' offense only generated two extended scoring drives.  The aforementioned big non-offensive plays helped the Lions cut the lead down to 11 points multiple times.

    As we look ahead to next week, the key for the Lions is obviously going to be stopping the dangerous Adrian Peterson.  He had an outstanding game today against Cleveland, and if the Lions want to have any shot at winning they have to stop Peterson before worrying about anything else.  After that it will be important to prevent Brett Favre from making any big plays.  Offensively the Lions have to get their running game going and Matthew Stafford has to play better.  The offensive line needs to give the rookie more time to throw, but more than anything Stafford can't make bad throws that give the defense easy interceptions.  Hopefully the special teams will make a couple big plays as well, as that unit was about the only pleasant surprise today.

    Kickoff for the Lions' home opener against Minnesota is set for 1 p.m. on FOX.

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    Mike Bell

    looked All-Pro against us today. I’m hopeful for the season but next week we’re gonna need Peterson to keep his fumblitis against us or it’ll be a long day.
    and before anyone tries to make stafford vs sanchez comparisons, just watch the highlights on nfl.com and see sanchez preening in the pocket for 5 seconds every time he dropped back. Not to mention the fact that the jets ran the ball 42 times for 190 yards and 2 scores while the lions ran it 20 times for 33 yards.

    by stumpy8100 on Sep 13, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Football is a team game.....

    Stafford can only be as good as his teammates allow him to be.

    by KDawg on Sep 14, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    can't agree that we look better than last year

    You said it yourself. The only reason we were in this game was special teams and the Delmas fumble return. 3 plays. Without those 3 plays, this game would’ve been a replay of last year. Extremely disappointed in the defense (where were the blitzes we were promised?), and equally disappointed in the run game.

    Read my Lions analysis at: http://www.studyofsports.com/?cat=142

    by simscity on Sep 13, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Sims...

    On your last two points about the blitzes and the run game…. disappointing, I know. But you’ve got to realize unless you can be successful on those blitzes, they do nothing but hurt against a great offense. It pains me to say that we would have gotten torched even worse had Cunningham let loose with 5 or 6 pass rushers more than he did. He played the odds which were in favor of more coverage against a very dynamic offense. And with the run… tough to stay with that ball control offense when it’s 14-0 before you can adjust your jock strap. The Saints played well against the run, mostly because they were successfully blitzing the gaps all game long.

    Don’t get discouraged. Like Sean, I too saw some positive things in this game and we ARE better than last year. We played a very good team and remember… we still have a lot of holes to fill. We all knew this coming in to today.

    by DrewsLions on Sep 13, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I was optimistic, but my optimism was squashed after hearing the Saint’s first drive on the radio…

    When the LEGAL side-effects of a substance, cause more harm to the person, than the side effect of the substance its self, we have an injustice.
    - Jimmy Carter

    by BIGWalt2990 on Sep 13, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I'm in no way giving up on this team

    But today’s effort was bad. To me, the only way we were going to steal this one is if we forced turnovers. And the best way of doing that (besides punting to Reggie Bush) is to pressure the quarterback. Yeah, its risky to blitz, but I rather risk that then try to rely on our secondary. The Saints attempted the most passes in the past 2 years and let up the least amount of sacks, clearly our front-four wasn’t going to do the job.

    I believe this team can play better, but today they played like they did last year.

    2008 Saints vs. Lions – Saints total yards – 532, Lions total yards – 255.
    2009 Saints vs. Lions – Saints total yards – 515, Lions total yards – 231.

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    by simscity on Sep 13, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Forcing turnovers and returing kicks......

    ……is improvement……how was that not better then last year man?……This team played better……The Saints offense is just very very good…..After all they arent going to t urn things around over night man.

    by BennieBladesFan on Sep 13, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Easy there

    Nowhere did I say I expect this team to be so much better than last year. I just would’ve liked to see some improvement in any unit. I’ll give you that Kick Returning was better (but not kick coverage). But if you’re to tell me we overthrew our roster and our staff to improve our kick returning only, then of course I’m going to be a little disappointed.

    I, like Jim Schwartz, consider forcing turnovers to be a fairly random occurrence (at least with fumbles). While its great we “forced” two fumbles, I don’t expect it to happen on a consistent basis.

    And yes, I realize the Saint’s offense is good. But Drew Brees put up a career high in TDs, Mike Bell put up a career high in yards, and Saints put up a franchise high points in their opener. Isn’t anyone else sick of the opponent’s having career days against our defense?

    I’m just very curious as to where people think we improved. Why is this team “worlds better” than last year? I want to believe, too, but Sunday I really didn’t see any signs.

    Read my Lions analysis at: http://www.studyofsports.com/?cat=142

    by simscity on Sep 14, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    We are not 'worlds better'

    Only slightly better. But that is after one game. One game doesn’t signal improvement, it only gives an indication.

    In it’s simplest form, football is won by scoring points. We scored more points than last year against the Saints. It doesn’t really matter how you score em. Either way, I’m not gonna get all judgemental about our season’s chances, it’s far too early.

    2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

    by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 14, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Culpepper

    I really feel that right now, Culpepper gives us a better chance to win. He is familiar with Linehan and will handle the pressure better. I think it’s ok for Stafford to play this year, just not right now. Let him hold a clipboard for a little while. It is amazing how long we had the ball for today and managed to do nothing with it.

    by Barry the Great on Sep 13, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Wow

    Only one game and already calling for the rookies job? I have said all along that Culpepper should have started but the fact of the matter is you have to give him time to develop. I stick by the coaches as they are the ones who see them day in and day out. Give the rookie some time before calling for him to grab some pine.

    "When life deals you lemons, make lemonade."

    by CPLkilla13 on Sep 13, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I agree......

    ……after one game everyone wants pepper….Well its not going to happen……Stafford is learing on the job this year….Its the only way we will get vetter…Staff has to play and learn these things……You cant learn how a defense plays from sitting on the bench……Troy Aikman said the same thing today.

    by BennieBladesFan on Sep 13, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Well

    I guess we agree to disagree. Carson Palmer and Aaron Rodgers did just fine not playing their first years, then there are Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco that played really well their first years, although the latter is much more uncommon. I don’t know. I just want the Lions to win a friggin game.

    by Barry the Great on Sep 13, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Like I said earlier in the game thread

    Peyton Manning threw 11 picks in his first 4 games.

    by ImPuLsE on Sep 14, 2009 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Stafford must be better...

    …since he is on pace to throw 12!

    Kidding.

    by Mushy on Sep 14, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Culpepper will not play

    unless he HAS to. Stafford is the starter. He needs to learn. Let him.

    GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!

    by Twon82 on Sep 14, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    No turning back now.

    I agree that CPep can only watch from the sideline unless Stafford is hurt.

    by Mushy on Sep 14, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Ive been calling for CPep but................

    They decided to go with the Staff infection so now they made their proverbial bed. I say stick with the decision – let him learn under these circumstances and, for consistency sake, stick with Staff Infection. It will gel the entife offense and give him valuable experience which may pay huge dividends down the road.

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    by NYCLionsfan on Sep 14, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Agreed

    To put a rookie, no matter how promising he is, into the lions’ offense when nothing has been done to boost the line is a mistake. Did we learn nothing from Harrington? Culpepper is a proven QB. He can handle the pressure better and is a little harder to bring down. While our big prob. may be too many holes all over the field the holes in the o-line is the worse. Give Dante the riens and let Stadford learn from a proven vet. Just look at Rodgers in GB. Years behind Favre made him a reliable option at QB.

    by Debothelionsfan on Sep 14, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Harrington was crap because he was crap

    The line had nothing to do with it. I’m not gonna go through all the points and counter-points again, Stafford has the start, and that’s all that matters right now.

    2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

    by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 14, 2009 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Okay

    With Culpepper, we lose 45-34 instead of 45-27.

    Now what?

    Peace
    Ty

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    by ty@thelionsinwinter on Sep 14, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I definitely see where you are coming from

    But I thought all along Culpepper should start anyways, at least for the first few weeks of the season. On the other hand, I can see that since we aren’t exactly playoff bound this season, letting Stafford take his lumps all season long may be beneficial too. Who knows, maybe he can turn out to be the next Matt Ryan and have a great rookie season? Doesn’t happen too often though

    by Barry the Great on Sep 13, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Simple breakdown

    The simple breakdown of this game is that Stafford played poorly. He was composed for the most part, but was a little quick with the trigger a lot, and also threw many poor balls – short, high, behind, etc. Also the defense didn’t get any push up the middle. The ends were able to get up field all day but the pocket was rarely threatened. When it was it was from the outside and Brees could just step up in the pocket and fire away. Jackson, Hill, Sims and Peterson were no shows today.
    Unless Stafford progresses beyond expectations this season we’re going to be hurting. Defense showed it’s not talented on the line. I’m gonna say 4 or 5 wins this year. I’ve been holding off until we played a regular game and from what I saw Stafford is going to have to play better than Flacco and Ryan did last year, which is going to be darn near impossible. Also, where was Pettigrew, didn’t see him barely at all?

    JF

    by Lions Rant Artist on Sep 13, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    agree totally on the D-line

    Avril or White were always a foot or two away from grabbing Brees, but since we were getting no pressure up the middle, Brees could step up and buy another 2-3 seconds.

    I’m not gonna trash Stafford yet, though. He is clearly a little overconfident in his arm and trying to force balls where no mortal man could throw in. His accuracy was off today, but based on what I’ve seen before, it probably won’t be this bad most of the time.

    Read my Lions analysis at: http://www.studyofsports.com/?cat=142

    by simscity on Sep 13, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Saints have a good secondary

    Talent-wise, anyways, there aren’t a ton of coverage units with the guys N.O. has – I see MAYBE 2-3 teams (Washington – DeAngelo Hall/Carlos Rogers and I guess Pitt/Baltimore) and the latter 2 are just because they’re good defenses overall.

    You wouldn’t believe it after today but we have a very potent offense. And I’m sure it’s been said by someone (probably Drew) that you’re gonna see Drew Brees tearing up teams this year. I’d put a 20 on him beating Marino’s record this year.

    by Nate D. on Sep 14, 2009 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    +1000

    Excellent point.

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    by NYCLionsfan on Sep 14, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Scary!

    But I’m still much more concerned about the Lions defense than I am the offense. They looked dreadful!

    by Mushy on Sep 14, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    at least...

    stafford wasn’t as bad as cutler…. HA HA HA

    by stumpy8100 on Sep 13, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Some thoughts.

    When you look at the other teams inthe NFL and look at their draft history, what do you see? You see that ALL of the CONTENDERS have drafted well and still have those drafted players on their teams. all the non contender but decent teams also have the majority of the players they draft on their team. We have this years drafted players and what 5 guys left over from the last decade!!! the rest are FA and trades…What the hell do people expect! Millen screwed the pooch for this team and it will take several good drafts before we can think about being contenders. Now with that said, please don’t confuse being a contender with being competitive.

    Observations/comments from the game:
    1.) Stafford didn’t do as good as i had hoped, but he needs the experience to learn from his mistakes. He looked nervous out there.
    2.) It would have loved to see the blitz more, however I think it would have been worse for us if we did. Brees is TOO good and he would have dumped it off to reggie or shockey and the score would have been even more lopsided, granted maybe they wouldnt have ran as well against us.
    3.) speaking of which, what the hell happened to the run D from the preseason, i thought that was considered one of our strengths.. (140+ to bell is not good, we see AP next week)
    4.) Our DL did worse than I expected. i mean I know they were not good, very young aside from jackson but damit, they got 0 pressure, they were totally owned all game.
    5.) Delmas rocked, he was crackin people all night, I betya bell was thinking to himself “SOB that hurt!!!!” after Delmas nailed him on his way out of bounds… awesomeness!
    6.) our OL didnt do as well as I was hoping either, however I understand that the saints were blitzing all day. maybe we shoudl have seen more screens and things of that nature to get them to back off.
    7.) The need run more slant routes for CJ….huge gain after a slant.. good stuff.
    8.) not being able to review an out of bounds ruling especially if it involves a potential touchdown is ridiculous.. Calvin was in bounds on that one… BAD CALL!!!
    9.) How many of you guys loved watching A. Brown run back that kcik return down to the (what was it the 10?) or something like that.. special teams was very much improved (except for the opening kickoff)
    10.) sucks when your #1 HB has more reception yards than rushing yards LOL
    11.) I think they will get better, Not everyone has a stupid awesome offense like that.
    12.) regardless of everything we still put up 27 pts. more than any game from last season… (I think)
    13.) I saw some good, saw alot of bad, but it was to be expected.

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    by alpha lion on Sep 14, 2009 1:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Good observations

    No.12 is interesting, 27 points is more than we put up all last season.

    2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

    by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 14, 2009 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Good breakdown Sean.

    It is hard not to focus on the negative, although the Lions were within eleven points into the fourth quarter. The problem is, I never felt our defence was capable of consistently stopping the Saints. When it was 38-27, I felt like the Saints would score at least another TD.
    Other notes from the game to add to others excellent observations:

    1. A. Henry led the Lions in tackles with eleven. I don’t know how many of those were in run support. Looked like most were on pass completions. The corners seemed to be playing soft, but with no pass rush it is tough to stay close for five or six seconds.
    2. E. Sims and J. Peterson were nearly invisible out there. Was expecting some plays from these two guys.
    3. Lots of missed tackles on run plays. I know this is not a fair comparison but watch the Titans v. Steelers game. Those teams know how to tackle. The Saints D seemed to wrap up pretty well against our guys too.
    4. Is Pettigrew okay? I did not see him much. I was hoping that he would figure in our offence more.
    5. Stupid penalties. Loper’s offside was particularly costly, although second and five and a half should not be impossible to convert. I am not letting Staff off the hook for that.
    Too many personal fouls.

    Enough negatives, how about some positives?

    1. Return game made some big plays and coverage was good, they only gave up one long return [42 yards]. Unfortunately it was the first return of the game so that is all that anyone will remember.
    2. I did not notice very many drops. One by Heller sticks out, but that was it. Figures made a nice catch and took a hard hit for it. Bryant Johnson made a nice sideline catch of a tough pass.
    3. They did target Calvin a fair number of times. A lot actually. But Staff forced it too much, especially not throwing it to spots where Calvin could climb up and get it. Hopefully that will come with experience.

    All in all a discouraging, but pretty much predictable start.

    by NorthLeft12 on Sep 14, 2009 7:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    We need a defense

    Sorry but I have been saying all along this season would not be too much different than last year if we don’t stop opposing QB’s from posting 100+ passer ratings against us. It certainly didn’t happen yesterday and doesn’t look like it won’t happen anytime soon.

    It’s my opinion it all starts up front – with pressure on the QB. That’s one thing that Rod spoke about non-stop but never delivered. We need to get consistent pressure on the QB. Last year Gus Frerotte posted a 115 QB rating against us for crying out loud!! Forget the offense guys – we need a defense and fast. Sammy Lee Hill and Landon Cohen are not gonna do it.

    The offense will gel and Staff Infection will settle down. I’m now worried about that side of the ball (although, as someone mentioned, where the F*CK is Pettigrew??) Anyway – it should get better at home but facing AP and the Vikes is scary this week.

    QUESTION: What do you think Gunny should change defensively going into the Vikings game??

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    by NYCLionsfan on Sep 14, 2009 9:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Blitz blitz blitz

    and when we’re done blitzing, blitz again.

    Run blitz. Then bring the kitchen sink. Then twist the LBs. Then bring Peterson off the edge. Hit AP on the way to Farve (it’s how he says it, so I’m gonna spell it that way too – it’s a spite thing).

    Did I mention we should blitz?

    by WBL on Sep 14, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    I was thinking more aggressive defense too

    Like BLITZING!!

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    by NYCLionsfan on Sep 14, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    the game

    i have to say i am disappointed in the outcome of the game. i couldn’t see it, but was paying close attention to the ticker.

    i kind of figured it would go like this. we have rookies at both qb and free safety, arguably two of the most important positions on either side of the ball. the defense largely has not played with each other until now due to various injuries, and brees and co. are an elite offense. its going to take time for things to gel, and it’s obvious that this team is not a finished work. im buying that this team is improved from last year, and if everyone can stay healthy and play together, we will be able to get a better understanding of what we have, what we need to acquire, and who we need to purge.

    im not buying culpepper as the answer at qb, and we need to accept the fact that he is past his prime, and at this point in his career, is nothing more than a backup. he didn’t cut the mustard in minnesota (post moss) miami and oakland, and retired for a short time due to the lack of interest in his playing ability. all this didn’t happen for no reason. he doesn’t throw the ball down the field, struggles to read coverages, and is not very accurate on longer routes. in short, all he did this offseason was lose weight. we don’t yet know if stafford can, but we clearly know that culpepper can’t.

    by big smoove on Sep 14, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    This was exactly my argument...

    …for why if winning this game was critical Stafford was going to give them a better chance than Culpepper. We’ll never know, obviously, but CPep seems more suited to a ball control offense, and the Saints proved they don’t need the ball long to do big damage to that defense. Of course, Stafford did play poorly (which was expected), but I still think the risk was their only chance at a reward (shootout).

    by Mushy on Sep 14, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    That being said...

    …I haven’t changed my mind that Culpepper should have started AT LEAST the first six games. The Saints were going to beat the Lions regardless, but maybe a less explosive offense (possibly the Vikings) would be more susceptible to a ball control battle, and it just scares me what will happen when a scarier defense (like the Vikings) has a chance to tee-off on Stafford. Culpepper’s leadership and veteran savvy may not have been a difference maker this past Sunday, but those intangibles may be a difference maker on one of these games. Again, I guess we’ll never know though.

    by Mushy on Sep 14, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Culpepper....

    Please… I can just imagine watching yesterdays game with ’dink’n’dunk’ Culpepper at the helm…lol… the score would’ve been 17pts.

    by CLF on Sep 14, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Yeah

    Because Stafford is the only reason we scored 27 points right? Give me a break….

    by KDawg on Sep 14, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    As strange as it sounds...

    Our special teams was the reason we scored 27 pts, I know it’s weird, especially with Stan Kwan still employd, but it makes this old post make sense lol. Whoo! Dp3 1 Everyone else 0

    We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne

    by detpistons3 on Sep 14, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Hey....I remember that post

    Good work.

    2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

    by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 14, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    The Lions did not win the TOP battle

    The time of possession battle was won handily by the New Orleans Saints…..

    Time of Possession:
    Saints: 36 minutes 30 seconds
    Lions: 23 minutes 30 seconds
    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009091307/2009/REG1/lions@saints#tab:analyze

    That is a difference of 13 minutes…..in other words the Saints offense held the ball for almost an entire quarter longer than the Lions offense…..not good when you are playing against a team with an offense as good as the Saint’s offense.

    by KDawg on Sep 14, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    And we were STILL only down by 11 at the start of the 4th quarter.....

    So anyone who says that we could not have possibly won that game, is F-ing blind or just plain ignorant. We squandered 3 scoring opportunities (2 red zone opportunities and a FG opportunity (at a minimum…we were already in Hanson’s range at the NO 36 when Stafford threw his last INT to Sharper)). If we had scored a TD at the end of the 1st half instead of throwing an interception (after the fumbled punt recovery by Bing at the NO 15), a TD instead of the 24 yard FG in the 3rd quarter (thanks to Loper’s false start and what I call bad play calling), and at least a FG in the 4th quarter (with 5 minutes left in the game) instead of the second Sharper INT, the score would have been 45-41 at the end of the game instead of 45-27.

    Now, to say that we could not have possibly won that game is a ridiculous statement in my opinion. Minus the stupid mistakes, at a minimum, if we had made the most of our GREAT chances it would have been a 4 point game and people would be thinking “WOW….the Lions almost beat the Saints in an offensive shootout”. If we could have found a way to control the clock for at least HALF of the 13 minutes that the Saints had the ball more than we did, I do not see it as impossible that we could have closed that 4 point gap and been ahead by 3 late in the 4th quarter. Sure, the Saints could have easily kicked a FG at the end of the game yesterday (or gone for the win if they were behind), but in that case we would have gone into overtime at a minimum.

    I know…..IF is the biggest two letter word in the English language. However, I do not think it was any more possible that we would lose to the Saints than it was possible that we would win the game. The opportunities to make it close were there, and the potential to WIN the game was also there. To say that the game was not winnable is not true, and I think that those of you who actually believe this are more of a Saints fan (than you would like to admit) than a Lions fan.

    by KDawg on Sep 14, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Oh yeah.....

    I forgot to throw the other (what) IF in there……What if we had scored a TD with less than 5 minutes to go in the 4th qtr (instead of throwing an INT), after scoring a TD at the end of the 1st half (instead of the INT) and after scoring a TD in the 3rd qtr (instead of the 24 yard FG)? The game would have been tied……and the Saints would have been forced to kick a FG to beat us (with less than 5 minutes left in the game, and probably with worse field position to work with). Otherwise we would have been going to OT. We may not have won the game in the end, but we would have gotten a whole lot more respect from the Saints and the rest of the league. We could have won that game, and that is all there is to it…..the New Orleans Saints are a good football team, but any team can lose on any given Sunday.

    by KDawg on Sep 14, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    The last statement is the truest one of them all

    Agree with everything you say. Am I disappointed that we squandered good redzone chances? Yes. I at least would’ve liked us to convert that great KR Brown had. It didn’t happen and we had to settle for a FG. That’s just something we have to work on as a team.

    In saying all that, I didn’t really expect a victory. Every game is winnable, but the talent against us was probably always to much to overcome. However, I think we showed heart and a competitive spirit which kept us in the game. And to be honest, that’s all I’m asking from this team this year, a consistent strong effort and the ability to stay competitive.

    2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

    by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 14, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

    Hey, I just thought of another positive!

    No injuries. Right?

    Hopefully we get Buchanon back for the Vikings too.

    by NorthLeft12 on Sep 15, 2009 6:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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