Reality and the Detroit Lions
I haven't posted on here in a long time, but I do make appearances from time to time. I see a LOT of negativity on here, and whether it's rightfully placed or not, I really feel compelled to offer an unbiased opinion after today's loss on where I think we are and where we're going, so bear with me, and tell me how you feel.
#1 pick, 0-16, 50 years... A lot of numbers play into the situation we're in now. As Lions fans we want to win, and we want to win yesterday. But here we are, 0-2, with the possibility of setting a new mark of futility for the entire NFL. Our rookie quarterback hasn't performed to the expectations that many have had for him, and people are already jumping off of the proverbial bandwagon.
Let's face it folks: Matthew Stafford isn't going to take us to the places that Joe Flacco or Matt Ryan did for their teams. He's been put into the unenviable position of leading a team with no real leadership, a fresh roster, and a tough schedule. He's made quite a few poor reads that have given us fits. But, honestly, that's what 95% of the rookie quarterbacks do in the NFL. Hell, that's what half the veteran quarterbacks in the NFL do. Just like the rest of this team, Stafford is a project in its infancy. I've said it before - this will be a messy year. Being that none of us has any control over roster decisions or playcalling, we have to understand and accept that. If Stafford sat this year, I can make a pretty solid guarantee that everyone would be watching his first two games next year going 'He's terrible, why is he trying to force passes like that?' etc. etc.. The only way this young man will learn is by doing. After forcing 10 passes into double coverage, he will learn to no longer do it. After being flushed from the pocket 10 times he will learn to step up and make the throw.
I had this argument with my father during the game today - Past results are not indicitive of future performance in our case. You cannot say that the Lions are 'the same team as always', because they simply are not. Yes, this is our 10 millionth rebuilding cycle, but that is reality. The least we can do is be happy that we have a clean slate with a man at the helm who (I believe) we all feel is qualified for the job, and hope that he can shape the team up. Change does not happen overnight. Can anyone honestly say that any of the teams in the NFL achieved success suddenly and remained that way? You EARN experience. You fight through losses, and setbacks, and ultimately it decides whether you're made or broken.
Regardless of anyone's opinion of how we have been playing, our roster is VASTLY improved from many years. Look at it this way - Let's take 51 of us who are on POD, and go play football together. Assuming we have a modicum of knowledge about various positions and whatnot, try and imagine how simplistic it would be for us all to gel into one solid unit. You don't turn over the majority of the roster and expect immediate results. As I said in an earlier comment, success is achieved through continuity. And continuity does not happen quickly. We need to retain players and staff in order to give ourselves a shot to win. People will say that's impossible as long as you're losing, but it isn't. If it was, every bad team would stay bad forever, and every good team would be fantastic forever.
Basically what I'm trying to say, is that as fans, we need to look at this objectively. This is a work in progress, and with every loss and every interception, we come one step closer to our players gaining the experience they need to contend in the NFL. We have some extremely potent talent, and it will be realized eventually. I know it's hard, but we just need to be patient, and watch the maturation of not just one man, but an entire football team. As far as I see it, we have two extremely solid players in Larry Foote and Matthew Stafford who WANT to be here, and want to win. It's got to start somewhere.
I'm sure I got extremely off track, but it is 3 AM and I just got off work, so cut me a little slack. :)
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Great post Nate
That is exactly how I feel also. I didn’t start this season thinking we were playoff bound. I knew things would be tough, especially in this first 6 weeks. I’m probably not in the same boat as you guys since I’ve only gone through 6 years of this, instead of 20 & 30 like some others here, but I’m confident we can become a competitive team, heck, we were competitive against the Vikings, we just got beaten in the end. Experience is what we need and I think we got that.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Good Post Nate, But it will not stop the never ending argument.
I don’t mean to sound negative regarding the results we will see this season from Staff and the Lions, but this debate will rage until Staff gets it together and puts +250 yards and a couple of TDs with minimal turnovers on the board every game. That’s the way it goes…………produce and shut everyone up. Don’t and they will howl forever.
Your right NorthLeft
Winning solves anything. I don’t see it anytime soon but we need to just win a game.
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Good Post
However, your post is written as a die hard. Unfortunately, as a die hard we also have earned the right to complain whole heartedly about losing. Each week we watch, and each week we walk away unhappy. Even the best fans have trouble keeping a positive attitude. We were sold a bill of goods with Marinelli as well. Everything is different and we are going to bring our players and we are going to “coach em up”. It has all turned out to be BS!
That being said, you are totally correct. This is a work in progress, and to expect this team with a rook at QB and a bunch of turnover to win is crazy.
I am staying open minded, but I am not happy about it.
Great post, Nate
I went into this season with this mindset. This is going to be a process. The Lions this year look incredibly improved over the team from last year and this years team will win some games. Anyone who really believed that the Lions were going to the playoffs as a division winner/wildcard was truely unrealistic, we just don’t have enough talent in place yet. 2 more solid drafts/offseason moves and another year for that to gel, then we can start talking about consistant contenders.
the schedule is tough
they’ve had two tough games and I always thought their best chance for a win is next week against washington at home. After that, their next best chances are week 8 vs STL., then CLEV wk 11 and AZ wk 15. That makes 4 wins. With a rookie QB and this roster, that’s pretty good. Didn’t aikmen go 1-15 his first year and manning 3-13? I know flacco and ryan did very well but flacco had a great D and ryan had talent around him. i dont remember the falons turning over their roster last year and they went to NFC championship a few years before he got there.
They are on track as a developing team. I’m happy to see them complete in games, that did not happen a lot last year.
Heres the deal
Nobody should be upset with Stafford, a majority of us wanted him to be the starter on opening day so we have to deal with the consequences, and those are games where one play he throws a beautiful ball to Calvin and the next play he throws an awful INT. What we SHOULD be upset with is the piss poor playcalling in the 2nd half. You cant totally take the ball away from Stafford and call run play after run play. You have to have 100% faith in him or none at all. Linehan gets a C- for his lack of 2nd half adjustments. He came off as someone who didnt trust his QB to make the right decisions.
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by BoscoHB on Sep 21, 2009 2:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I disagree and then agree
I disagree that nobody should be upset with Stafford. I think EVERYONE should be upset with Stafford. If he can just go in there and make mistake after mistake with no repercussion, then what motivation will he have to improve? He has his paycheck already. Does he really care what anyone thinks? I doubt it.
I agree that Linehan did a terrible job adjusting in the second half. However, was it all Linehan, or was he simply adhering to a previously conceived game plan? I think the latter is more likely than the former, and I think we really saw what Linehan wanted to do once we were down by 2 scores. I am not sure if it is Linehan who does not trust the rookie, or if it is Jim Schwartz. Maybe it is both of them.
i think they were so heavily out of balance on the pass last week
they tried for a heavier dose of clock management & went to the polar opposite…it is the balance of the two that we need.
you have to admit…two mistakes are better than three though!! LOL!
I do have to agree.....
But I also think he could have made 3 mistakes if he had thrown the extra 7 passes that he attempted in New Orleans.
Dude....
Are you really so misspoken that you can’t comment intellectual without posting ridiculous GIF images that supposedly represent something other than a lack of intelligence? GROW UP! It’s cool when your images are not directed at anyone, because they are funny. But when you purposefully post stupid images to attack someone else’s opinions, it gets really old really fast.
What about if someone posts
their opinion over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over in similar words, in similar threads, in a matter of 2 hours….
would you say that gets old really fast?
I could care less if we hold the same opinion.
I start caring when someone keeps repeating their opinion over and over and over and over with each and every reply like they think no one is listening.
We all hear you Kdawg… Stafford failed yesterday… we…. hear…. you.
-CLF
But it is ok for everyone else to have whatever opinion they want.....
and repeat it on every single thread. It just isn’t ok when it is me and my opinion is not the one you like. All I hear from you is blah blah blah…..
Tell me, what's really bothering you?
I razzed you because out of 75 posts or so, 24 of them were from you and they all said pretty much the same thing…lol
Then it continued on another thread… lol… after a while it just read as a crying little baby… and when your opinion turned into anger, it read like a douchebag.
Is that not a ‘razzable’ offense?
Ease up, or its gonna be a LONG season….lol.
Great post, Nate
I pretty much agree with you 100%. I feel like I’ve been preaching the same thing. Patience, patience and more patience. I just feel like everyone here was on the same page before the season and then when we actually lost, everyone came unglued… expecting this miraculous success.
With Stafford… the kid WILL make mistakes… bad ones… many of them… ALL ROOKIES DO. Especially ones that go to REALLY, REALLY bad teams… like the LIONS were. I’ll stop with the emphatic nature, but just trying to get the point across. Okay, one more time… PATIENCE!!!
We need a win
It might actually stop all this in-fighting.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
I agree 100%
The Lions are tearing us apart !!!!
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Im with CLF on this one...
Going into the first 2 days i had realistic expectations, i knew 0 – 2 was probably how we were gonna turn out, however, the Redskins look like a very below average team. If our defense plays inspired for 4 quarters instead of 2 i see an easy win. I promise im not drinking the Kool aide. I just think the Lions are better.
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by BoscoHB on Sep 22, 2009 10:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think they are better too
i think it will come down to who plays with a bigger chip on their shoulder for a full four quarters. just like the lions were set up to be a trap for the skins…don’t get caught in the vice versa.
U nailed it and we all know it
Play for a FULL 4 QUARTERS.
This team just needs to learn how to WIN one single game.
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Pic - me and the great Herman Moore
by NYCLionsfan on Sep 22, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions

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