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Redskins Game Blacked Out Locally

With 10,000 tickets available yesterday, it was obvious that the Redskins game would be blacked out, but it wasn't made official until today.  Unlike last week, the NFL did not grant the Lions a 24-hour extension to sell the game out, as that only happens when a sellout is likely.  Considering how many tickets were still available yesterday, the NFL had no reason to expect a sellout to happen even with 24 extra hours.

The blackout means that the game will not be available in a 75-mile radius around the stadium.  The NFL will post the game after midnight on its website for those of us in the blackout zone, but all that will do is allow us to see what happened.  It'll be tough to ignore the result until then, but if that is your plan, I will warn you to not visit Pride of Detroit on Sunday.

I say that because POD will continue to post play-by-play updates.  I plan on tracking the game via the radio, an online game tracker, and hopefully a stream on something like Justin.tv.  Having a stream is the best case scenario, but it's not always a guarantee that there will be one out there, especially one that is of good quality.

(By the way, apparently being shown in place of the Lions-Redskins game will be the Vikings-49ers game.  That's an even bigger slap in the face.)

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Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??

by det32 on Sep 24, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If I lived in the Detroit area.....

That would mean that I had a job that was good enough to afford season tickets. I would have a season ticket, because I would be ultra pissed if I could not see the game because it was not sold out. I think it is ridiculous to even have a blackout rule. It does not force more people to go to the actual game, it just keeps poor people from being able to see the game. What a bunch of BS.

by KDawg on Sep 24, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

+1

Kevin Smith let em kno, Ernie Sims Break em, Calvin Johnson you already Kno
2009 Detroit Lions 6-10 to 8-8

by DetroitLions 4 life on Sep 24, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree KDAWG

I hate that the NFL has this rule. I love the NFL and never want to see it go. I am not sure what this accomplishes and I dont understand how punishing fans will bring in more revenue?

Jack of all trades-Master of None.....

by Peter Chung on Sep 24, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me know,

If you find a decent stream. I won’t be able to watch the videos on the nfl website because I don’t have the right software :S.

by topherclosson on Sep 24, 2009 2:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Let me know,

If you find a decent stream. I won’t be able to watch the videos on the nfl website because I don’t have the right software :S.

by topherclosson on Sep 24, 2009 2:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

http://atdhe.net/

this is decent . you cant watch it in full mode unless you have a great video card

Jack of all trades-Master of None.....

by Peter Chung on Sep 24, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you know if this feed comes from outside detroit? cause it might be blacked out too if it’s just some Detroit guy with a webserver.

by sgdbw90 on Sep 24, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

Upset about blackout

by doctorjcmu on Sep 24, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

I’m actually glad it will be Levy over Dizon…..but I bet they share snaps.

by KDawg on Sep 24, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

We’ll see both extensively I think, more excited about Levy though.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 24, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

blackouts, especially in todays times

only hurts the average joe fan who needs entertainment. during the great depression theatre saw its biggest boom…why… because people needed an escape, they need a break. this is a kick in the teeth to all those who have worked so hard through their lifetime…sports is a tremendous release…people need to be able to take a break from reality & enjoy it.

sorry for any unionized ppl on here, my parents are both unionized…but blackouts & unions both served a purpose at one point…now they are more of a hinderance than anything.

by londonlion on Sep 24, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I could use the same analogy using upper management instead of unions.

Leeches that suck the lifeblood out of healthy businesses and cause the loss of jobs of average people while collecting ridiculously high salaries and bonuses. Sorry if I offended any CEO types. LOL

by NorthLeft12 on Sep 24, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely...whats more rediculous is in a unionized environment

there are typically 2 or 3 & sometimes 4 levels of management per ground level employee. and in the private sector i must say i loved watching upper/senior management get the cutbacks…how to increase productivity 101, eliminate the redundancy at the highest levels…force them all to take on more work not only cause the same work is spread out over fewer people…but now their all sweating for their jobs ’cause no one knows who is next. saw it happen with several of my clients.

by londonlion on Sep 24, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not as great as you think

I work in that environment. It’s not as fun for the low end workers as you might think. They might get a laugh at watching their boss stressing out, but in the end he just takes it out on his staff. Then no one is happy.

by birdseed on Sep 24, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i am a manager

and i enjoyed it. i work my tail off & was glad to see it happen ‘cause there were many that weren’t carrying their weight. and any manager that takes it out on his staff if they have any experience, should know that any productivity you get by treating your staff in that way will only be short lived. you have to manage the people, teach & hone skills…demanding does nothing but create resentment. not to brag…but i improved performance by over 200% by managing the people not the results. the results came as i gained trust, once the trust was gained, people wanted to work for me & the results came

by londonlion on Sep 24, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I give them candy...

…when they are good and take them out for Ice Cream when they are REALLY good.
When they are bad, I make them sit in the corner.

I love being a manager, and I would be happy to share my strategies with the Lions…if they are interested.

by Mushy on Sep 24, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree that it doesn't serve a purpose

I’ve said it before, but it does. It sucks for the people that can’t afford to go to the game. It really does. But imagine how much it sucks for the ownership losing out on all those TV revenue dollars. This is a way for ownership to try harder. If the product sucks on the field, people won’t show up. Pretty simple. Detroit is in a major slump no doubt, but if this was a competitive team, it’d be sold out. The fan base in Michigan is awesome and we’d have it sold out. Hang some wins on the board and we’ll come back. I know I’m gonna get a bunch of your not a “real” fan BS, but if you take your emotions out of it and look at, you’d see it true.

by vanman on Sep 24, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+100

Detroit football fans are very knowledgeable. I’m amazed its taken them THIS long to stop supporting this team. The fans there are hardcore. Recession or not if this team puts together WINS all this blackout stuff will go away – the fans will come.

winning solves all the Lions problems

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Pic - me and the great Herman Moore

by NYCLionsfan on Sep 24, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+100

You two are absolutely right!

by birdseed on Sep 24, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You wanna see a seaon of blackouts

So they aren’t winning, they are 0-2 in the first season of a new regime and you want people to chose NOW to stop going? What about last year or the year before? Luckily I am outside the blackout area but to bad for all Lions fans like ourselves who don’t get to watch in a 100 mile radius or whatever it is. This is not how you build interest for the NFL or for the Lions.

by doctorjcmu on Sep 24, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My question now is.....

what brings in more revenue? Ticket sales or TV revenue? I think the obvious answer would be TV revenue. Right? Look at it this way…..the average ticket cost was $61 in 2007 (according to Forbes magazine, so the Lions would be making 65000 * 61 per game = $3,965,000 just in ticket sales. Multiply that by 8 home games, and they would bring in $31,720,000 over the season in ticket sales alone (they actually made 44 million in gate receipts in 2007, including club seatng) (Total revenue = $204 million). Each team in the NFL gets a share of the league’s revenue from all TV contracts…..and that share is over 100 million dollars per year…..so the TV revenues are definitely a key to teams being able to pay their expenses.

That said why do the costs of tickets keep rising, even in the most obvious of hardest times (average ticket costs across the league are up to $72 for 2009)? Why wouldn’t the Lions (and other teams that are having difficulty selling out games) greatly reduce the cost of their tickets in order to sell out as many games as possible, thereby increasing the revenue they receive from the NFL’s TV profit sharing policy? There are about 5000 tickets that did not get sold this week…..so why not lower the overall ticket costs by a minimum of $5 each in an attempt to sell more tickets? Let’s say that the average cost of a ticket to a Lion’s game decreased by $10, from $61 – $51 each. 51 * 65000 = $3,315,000 per game (a difference of only $650,000. Wouldn’t people be more likely to buy tickets that cost $10 less?

In reality, the Lions are having a hard time selling CLUB LEVEL seats. Here is the current cost chart for those seats (if it works….if not, it is on Detroitlions.com):

Club seats cost an average of $183 each!! No wonder we can’t sell them out! So, instead of lowering the cost of every ticket by $10, why not just discount club level seats? I think that greed is still ruling old man Ford, but logic is eluding him. He would make more money by selling out every game, in TV revenues alone, than he will by keeping club level ticket costs at the current price and not selling out every game.

by KDawg on Sep 24, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Price of Entertainment

Guys!
I’m a Dealer in a Michigan casino. The money is there. People are throwing thousands of dollars at me every day. Many are Lions Fans, as am I, and I work Sundays. Give us a winner, and people will reconsider their investment of entertainment dollars. If you saw our environment, there is still a LOT of money out there. Good will to All.

by dylan415 on Sep 24, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+100

Look at the Sports Illustrated article this week on the Tigers. Recession or not, fans show up to watch a winner. And Detroit especially needs a shot in the arm right now.

It’s too bad the Lions won’t be a rallying point for saddened Detroiters, but let’s face it WCF has never run this team as a civic project. He’s not interested in the community. He’s a car dealer; he wants your money. That’s all he’s ever wanted from Lions’ fans.

by birdseed on Sep 25, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Expect a lot more of these to come especially if the Skins smack us around. I hope they dont but un til Staff learns to stop forcing pases that aren’t there we will get smacked around by every team we play. That is simply being realistic, I hope he learns fast because we deserve a win after holding on for so long. Who knows maybe this is our week, the Skins have not out scored us thus far this year so you never know. Go Lionsssssss!!!!!!

by Usmarine0341 on Sep 25, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Road Games

Can’t we just play all our games on the road? That way if we want to watch the abomination we don’t have to worry about blackouts. Its not like playing away from Ford Field will lessen our 0 percent probability of winning anyways…

by Yellowdart00 on Sep 24, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

See the new post I am about to create

It will be titled “Probability”

by KDawg on Sep 24, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blackout solution

How about if we rope off the top 20 rows and classify them as “standing room” only – but with seats – that should get us near sellout every game.

by thecommish58 on Sep 24, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Question guys....

I live farther than 75 miles from Ford Field (confirmed… as I drove it last week), but I am still in the Blackout Zone. So…. what’s the deal? Is it really 75 miles or is it farther or is it by broadcast zone (i.e. station broadcasting is within blackout zone). I get broadcasts from FOX 66 WSMH and CBS 5 WNEM.

This really pisses me off because it takes me 2 hours to get to the stadium, yet I’m blacked out. If I lived even an hour closer, I would probably be a season ticket holder and all this crap would be irrelevant for me personally. So can anybody help me out and give me the lowdown with the blackout zones?

by DrewsLions on Sep 24, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as far as i know it is the station.

before i had sunday ticket, if fox upn50 i believe was blacked out i didn’t get the game in london either

by londonlion on Sep 24, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think only exception

is nationally televised major (parent) network carrying the game

by londonlion on Sep 24, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live 129 miles from Ford Field

And I am not in the blackout zone…..it has to be by broadcast zone. Interestingly, it only takes me about 2 hours and 10 minutes to get there from home.

by KDawg on Sep 24, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

KDawg, I am 119 miles...

What the hell? What stations do you watch the games on?

by DrewsLions on Sep 24, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charter Cable

All of my FOX stations show the game every week…..including FOX in HD. WXMI (FOX 17) is one that always shows the Lion’s game here. I usually watch it on WXMI HD (which is channel 787 on my cable). Where are you located Drew? I am in Ionia. If you were close enough, you could watch the game with me if it is blacked out…..I promise we will get along…..:o)

by KDawg on Sep 24, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although....

I will be in Chicago this weekend….visiting my brother. But any other weekend…..

by KDawg on Sep 24, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am outside of Midland

But I see that you are watching different stations. That’s gotta be it. It’s gotta be based on the broadcast station’s distance from the stadium.

by DrewsLions on Sep 24, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I think it is where the station is located. So people outside of 75 miles could get screwed.

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by Sean Yuille on Sep 24, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

75 mi radius as the crow flies

so even if you’re 100 mi driving distance you may still fall in the blackout zone. i know it sucks. i live 78 miles as the crow flies from Qualcomm in SD. we get the game, but if you go to the south side of town they don’t even though it the same channel. don’t know if it is the same in MI but I would assume it is an NFL thing not a State by State thing.

by j16941 on Sep 25, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could just imagine you two sitting on a couch together during a game

Well, obviously I can’t picture faces, but I can imagine your avatars in the same place. Would be hilarious.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 24, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sucks for you guys in the blackout zone

But I’ll be here in the game thread, listening and trying to watch as always, feel free to join in.

2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).

by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 24, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For streams of games check out

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/

That’s where I usually find my streams…

Although as of late, they haven’t been posting justin.tv and sites like that as much… But we’ll see.

by ZWC11 on Sep 24, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What would suck...

…is if the Lions end up winning somehow. That would be fitting. No one gets to see such a momentous occasion. lol

GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!

by Twon82 on Sep 24, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't surprise me

but with the Lions nothing amazes me……..lol

by Usmarine0341 on Sep 25, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's why I'm going.

The Lions are 6.5pt underdogs in this one, which tells me two things:

1) They are still not “supposed” to win.
2) Vegas isn’t so confident in the Redskins, but they know if the line is too close they won’t get a 50/50 split. I’ve been watching the line all week and it hasn’t budged. Confidence must be high that the Lions can keep it within a touchdown.

If the Lions are within a touchdown late in this game, at home, on the verge of breaking a 19game winning streak the 30,000 that are at the game will make it sound like a sellout! Lions get on of those wins they “shouldn’t” and the fans will probably take down the goal post like we’ve just won the Superbowl…at least that’s how I see it going.

by Mushy on Sep 25, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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