This is why I had to take probability/statistics twice! That…and the professor was a douche who had single question exams with zero partial credit.
I’ve never believed it was possible to do it the first time. I jokingly rationalized the possibility with some friends when the schedule came out last year…but I was never that serious. After the Kitna “injury” I knew we were in trouble, but still 0-16? Never!
I still don’t believe it’s possible to do it again this season, but that’s more gut feeling than it is math. The one thing I DID learn in probability is that there is almost never a zero percent chance of anything…but it’s good to know that the odds of this happening again are worse than me winning the lottery. Of course if they play more games like they did against the Saints, I’ll be in line for some Mega Millions tickets!

I mean, we are all huge Lions fans, we bleed blue and silver. But all this in-fighting has gone a little too far, I myself have chosen not to be a part of it, mainly because there was nothing I could add to the arguments that were not already said or at all productive. Like I said in one comment, I think we are just sick and tired of losing and that a win would do a lot to soothe all this bickering.

Negativity-wise, while I am a pretty big optimist when it comes to the Lions, I definitely don’t mind it when someone posts something negative. It’s important to gather the opinions of other’s and a negative one is just a valid as any.

Also, it’s nice to know that the chances of going this season without a win are very, very slim. However, it still doesn’t soothe my pain about all these losses. I mean, the last time I’ve felt the winning feeling during the regular season was way back in 2007, I still remember the game. I was following the gametracker on NFL.com and had to leave the room until the game ended since I thought we were gonna be pipped at the post. That seems like an age ago now. I just wanna have that winning feeling again.

if you’re good, you can get them to say whatever you want. the true beauty of them, is that they tell a story, in fact many stories. just remember, nothing is impossible. it may not be probable, but it is possible…and before any of you try to put words in my mouth as to where i am going with this…it is still possible that we go 14-2 :).

i think the collective ( i like that word lately) needs more of this right now…its a long season, a marathon not a sprint….and to get there just as the team must do, we must keep our focus where it needs to be. we need to keep our wits about us. although entirely possible, not necessarily probable, we could go 14-2 & in which case this becomes a mute point…but the likelyhood & probability is that this wasn’t our last loss of the season. so we can choose, look fort the positive, share our imo’s, defend our team…or implode on ourselves and really make for a long season.

i know if i was even the third string towel boy for the lions (which my God i’d love to do), i’d want to know that the team i was a part of had a fanbase with an undying support of it. i’d hate to come strolling through si.com to find an article to read posted on pod…(which is actually how i came to find the site originally) …come here & read the negativity. although a wake up call perhaps…like i wouldn’t feel bad enough as it is knowing in my head that we’re letting the fans down…but to read it in print where it can’t be taken back…sheesh. let alone being the starting “whatever position is the flavor of the week” & having screwed up in the last game. talk about a tough one to swallow. i spend enough time defending the lions as i am sure many of you have done…the last thing i think any of us want to do is to come here to defend them to…regardless of the point of view. the only point of view that matters is the great fandom known as POD.

PS…Kdawg…thanks for the quote…your my boy blue…and no i don’t mean to call you ralphie…lol…i meant in the fellow honalulu blue fan kind of way…never mind i’ll shut up now….other than to say…lets show the team the support we’d want through this time if we were the third string punter…or qb … or wr …or towel boy…or whatever. i can’t wait for the day we can all pull the steve young move & pull this damn monkey of a doughnut of our collective backs.

and look what happened… lol. I kept siding with “reason” and the fact we would win a game because history and statistics were on our side. Then we went winless… go figure. Not that I am trying to rain on your optimism or anything….

But I agree that to go 0-16 again… would be a true statistical anomaly. And I also agree about the second half of your post and the Rodney King “can’t we all get along” stuff. I think everyone… including myself… needs to find some sort of perspective and expectations for this season or it’s gonna get really ugly really fast.

I think that both KDawg and I (and probably others) can attest to the fact that there are things in life that are so much more important than this silly little game we all love so much. I won’t belittle anyone’s passion for the sport and how important it can seem, but trust me… in the grand scheme… it is infinitesimally insignificant. But… even with all I’ve been through in the last few years and having the life perspective that I currently have… the Lions are still a huge part of my life. I still get overly-passionate about them and have to slap myself upside the head sometimes to get my mind in the right place. Passion is good, but it can be misplaced sometimes.

But the facts remain the same we are headed down the exact same road we were on last year at this time. The odds are against us losing all of our games but I see us headed for a shot at the #1 overall draft pick again next year, all we have to do is lose to the rams later this year and we can wacth our front office draft another positional player that doesn’t warrant a #1 overall pick. And yes I’m refering to Staff.I like him and think 1 day he will be a good QB, but he WAS NOT worth the #1 overall draft pick. For that matter no Junior coming out of college is ever worth drafting #1.Unless you have the lions sitting there then as long as you had a descent year in school you are worth it.Can you guys feel my anger towards WCF growing?

BTW, what are the odds at this point that we’ll go 16-0 this year?

I can’t believe I let that dude get to me. Slamming a 6er of Molson XXX on an empty stomach at the time didn’t help matters either. I’m not going to apologize for my outburst because at the time I meant it, I’m just gonna step back and lurk here instead of being goaded into online scraps. I’ll save the scrappin’ for the FUbar mumms

KDawg i know your a stats wiz. i am in a stats class and could use some help man if your willing. Pls let me know if you can help me out.