Lions Close Out Preseason with 17-6 Win Over Bills
The final game of the preseason is never expected to entertaining, mainly because most starters don't play for very long or at all. Last night was no exception, as the Lions beat the Bills 17-6 in a game that was fairly boring. It did have a few exciting moments, though, including a few Matthew Stafford passes to Calvin Johnson and an 80-yard touchdown run by Tristan Davis. Had it not been for some untimely penalties, there would have been a couple more exciting plays that actually counted.
1st Quarter
- The Lions' defense struggled at the start of the game's opening drive but got things turned around just in time to force a Bills punt.
- Matthew Stafford came out with his back up against the goal line, as the Lions started their first drive from the 8-yard line. Aveion Cason gave the offense some breathing room by running for 7 yards, but that gain was balanced out by a sack on the next play for a loss of 7 yards. No blocking pretty much left Stafford with no options and led to the sack. On 3rd and 10, Stafford had time to throw and delivered a perfect pass to Calvin Johnson for a gain of 37. Johnson got past the Bills player covering him and Stafford put it in his arms with a perfect throw. This almost became a touchdown pass, as Johnson got by the only defender that could stop him, but he stepped out of bounds in the process.
Another Stafford to Johnson connection led to a 19-yard gain when a Bills cornerback fell down. Then, on the very next play, Stafford found Johnson again, this time in the end zone for what should have been a 34-yard touchdown. Instead, holding was called on Daniel Loper, negating the touchdown and yet another perfect pass by Stafford. He lobbed it down the field and put it right where only Johnson, who was covered by two Bills defenders, could get it.
The Lions moved the chains once after the holding penalty, but this drive came to an end rather quickly when Aaron Maybin blew by Jeff Backus and hit Stafford's arm to force a fumble. Stafford got his hands on the ball after it came loose, but he was in too awkward of a position to really fight for it, and the Bills recovered. - The Bills started to move the ball effectively until they got a couple penalties. Eventually it became 3rd and 24 thanks to the penalties, giving the Bills a lot of ground to make up. Quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick completed a pass that was only good for a gain of 9, but that was the least of the Bills' problems on this play. Jordon Dizon came in and forced a fumble that was recovered by Chris Roberson, giving the Lions the ball near midfield.
- This next drive got off to a great start, as the Lions converted on third down with a pass to Casey FitzSimmons and again moved the chains on the next play with an amazing run by Maurice Morris. In reality he didn't do a whole lot of running, but the play was amazing for a different reason. Morris got hit after only a yard or two and suddenly there was a big pile of players around him. Somehow this pile kept moving forward and by the time Morris went down he had gained 11 yards. This put the Lions down around the Bills' 30 and made it look like they were on the verge of having a successful drive.
2nd Quarter
- That successful drive never happened, as this one ended just like the first one -- with a turnover. Matthew Stafford was picked off thanks to Keary Colbert falling down. That gave the defender an easy interception and a big return that was stopped by Stafford at the Lions' 27.
- The Bills were unable to move the ball outside of a couple Lions penalties and were forced to attempt a field goal. It was only from 33 yards away, but Rian Lindell pushed it wide right, giving the Lions a break after the turnover.
- After already making a nice catch to move the chains on third down, Casey FitzSimmons went up and grabbed a high pass for another first down, or so we thought. The Bills challenged the play, saying he didn't make the catch, and after the review the officials sided with Buffalo. The reception was ruled an incomplete pass and the Lions drive stalled after the ruling.
- The two teams traded punts on the next couple of drives. (Brooks Bollinger took over for the Lions at this point.)
- The Lions got another turnover when Chris Roberson picked off a pass and returned it to Detroit's 45. Roberson had a great game in general, and this interception was especially nice.
- Dane Looker drew a pass interference on third down and then made a nice catch near the sideline to move the chains again. This set the Lions up for at least a field goal before the half, but thanks to Aveion Cason's best run as a Lion that I can ever remember, Detroit ended up on the 5. Cason had a big hole and broke a couple tackles for a gain of 23. After an incomplete pass and another interference call, the Lions had the ball on the 1-yard line. Jerome Felton was stuffed on first down, and Cason was unable to get into the end zone on a toss on second down. Finally on third down, Felton got the handoff from the fullback position and got into the end zone for a touchdown. The Lions led 7-0 at halftime.
3rd Quarter
- The Lions opened the second half with another promising drive that would end because of a turnover. Aaron Brown made his first appearance and ran for 15 yards. After a holding call made it 2nd and 16 a couple plays later, Brown got the ball and ran for 17 yards to again move the chains. Brooks Bollinger then threw a great pass downfield to Adam Jennings, who took it out of the air for a gain of 39. Three plays later, the Lions had a shot at scoring another touchdown when Bollinger threw a pass to Keary Colbert in the end zone. The pass was a little bit behind Colbert, who ended up knocking it into the air, allowing it to be intercepted. I can understand dropping the pass, but there is no excuse for basically creating an interception.
- The Bills finally got something going after the two teams both went three and out. The no huddle seemed to give the Lions' defense problems on this drive, though they eventually stepped it up and forced Buffalo to kick a field goal. Rian Lindell made it this time (from 24 yards), but it was good that the Lions kept Buffalo out of the end zone (thanks mainly to a couple of good plays by Cletis Gordon in coverage).
- Aaron Brown showed off his skills with a 23-yard run a few plays into the Lions' next drive, but a holding penalty on Milford Brown had it called back. This eventually led to it being 4th and 10 on the Lions' 39, which is when Detroit decided to use some trickery. The punt was snapped directly to Marquand Manuel, who was an up-back. He ran for 20 yards and picked up the first down, catching the Bills completely off guard.
4th Quarter
- The Lions got the ball into field goal range after a 5-yard run by Brown and an 11-yard reception by Dan Gronkowski, but that was pretty much it for this drive. Billy Cundiff came out and kicked a 32-yard field goal to make this a 7-point game yet again.
- Following back-to-back three and outs, the Bills cut into the lead with a 48-yard field goal by Rian Lindell. The field goal came after a 44-yard gain on a pass that was the result of poor coverage. The Bills didn't do squat after the big pass (they actually lost a yard on a run and had two incompletions), so it was a nice recovery by the Lions.
- Kevin O'Connell came into the game and didn't have to do anything except hand the ball off to be part of a scoring drive. Tristan Davis took the ball on the first and only play of the drive and made a cut to the left. He ran past one defender and suddenly sprinted by everyone for an 80-yard touchdown. He showed off some great speed on the play and essentially clinched a win for the Lions.
- The Bills did drive down the field and had a shot at scoring a touchdown, but Ramzee Robinson intercepted a fade pass in the end zone to end Buffalo's nearly 6-minute long drive with a turnover.
- O'Connell came back out and took two kneel downs to end the game and clinch the Lions' a 17-6 win.
The regular season is just over a week away for the Lions. They head to New Orleans to take on the Saints in Week 1 of the season on September 13. The game will get underway at 1 p.m. on FOX, and you can bet the excitement for football that actually counts will be through the roof over the next week or so. Until the anticipation really starts to mount, however, there is some business to take care of. The final round of roster cuts will be made on Saturday, letting us know who will be on the 53-man roster. The Lions will then scour the list of players released to see if there is anyone worth bringing in. At that point the roster will probably be changed up a bit again before being finalized in time for the Saints game.
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A solid win
It’s hard to know what to take from this game. Stafford looked good, but didn’t get a score to his name. Our defence didn’t allow a TD, but Bills don’t offer much. On the whole though, I’m pretty happy, but we all know from last year, pre-season means diddly squat when it comes to the regular season.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Starting QB?
Now we wait and see who get’s named #1, my gut feeling is they let Culpepper start till there out of playoff contention or his play isn’t exceeding what Stafford could do.
I think its stafford.....
…..he showed all preseason that hes a pros pro…..If he doesnt start it wont make sense to me
by BennieBladesFan on Sep 4, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I can still see Daunte Culpepper getting the start. If he can play week 1, I think it makes all kinds of sense, contrary to the Stafford bandwagoners. Daunte Culpepper did nothing to lose the starting job, and outside of a few nice passes, Matt Stafford did nothing overly spectacular to win the starting job. I must say, the rookie did look very good at times. I am not saying that he sucks or that he should not start at some point during the regular season. In my opinion, it just makes more sense to showcase Culpepper’s ability at the beginning of the season. It will be especially good for the Lions, in more ways that one, if Daunte Culpepper performs well. Not only should we win some games if he is playing well, but also it will open the eyes of some QB needy teams before the trade deadline (week 6, I believe). Maybe Daunte plays great for the first 5 weeks and we get something out of him in trade. That would be the best case scenario in my opinion, considering that it is almost a guaranteed fact that he will not be retained by the Lions after this season. I suppose it is possible that Daunte could be content to finish his career as a backup in Detroit, and if that is the case I would welcome that idea with open arms. However, I feel that it is unlikely that he is ready to accept that role and much more likely that he will want to try to start elsewhere.
Did Staff show enough to be the starter?
Taking the preseason as a whole, I would say yes. But I am bothered by the lack of finish in the red zone. Moving the ball does not mean a lot unless you score. The turnovers are another concern but I see that improving with better receiver play and experience. There is great potential here, we just need to bring it out.
This would be a lot tougher decision if Daunte had shown more in the preseason.
I did not see the first half, but I saw some replays. Was the O line really bad or just inconsistent?
Heck yeah
We can’t have it both ways. We can’t all say that preseason wins and losses (and therefore, indirectly, the touchdowns) are meaningless stats and then worry about not getting them.
Stafford’s poise, knowledge of the offense, command of the offense, and current talent (not potential) are what matters in my opinion because those actually translate to the regular season. If he was 65% with 4 TD passes I would get worried of over confidence because we’ve seen 4-0 with a dominant defense in the preseason before and that meant nothing.
Th O-Line , looks amazing at run blocking but pedestrian at pass blocking.
They said they would run the ball and stop the run and I can actually see that happening. Pass protection and playing our starters seems to be the only obstacle to passing the ball. As for defending the pass…..well we need a weakness somewhere I guess.
by HoorayForEverything on Sep 4, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you about Stafford
His poise and comfort level with the Lions offence looked very good. He looks like an NFL QB. Add in those amazing downfield throws that he can make made and we may finally have something here.
I know we have statistically stopped the run in preseason, but I still see a lot of missed tackles and our D line getting blown away in the limited action that I have seen. I am not sold on our ability to stop the run yet.
the stats are in
with the exception of a couple unplayed games left, we had the most productive offense of the preseason (1st) and the 8th toughest defense.
Now, I know that these facts are “meaningless”, but I have to believe in something, don’t I?
I HAVE been waiting for over 30 years now!
I hope we all have something to beleive in
This isn’t the 1991 team – far from it. I’m just hoping for a competitive team that doesn’t get blown our week in and week out. That would mean something.
I agree 100%.
I want to see progress in 2009. Maybe that is setting the bar too low, but look at our last eight years fer chrissakes!
I agree as well
What I want is for the opponent to actually be concerned they are playing the lions.. Defensively I want us to come out and smack someone in the face (not like what happened in the boise st/oregon game) but show real physicality and use that improved team strength to manhandle someone. Get mean, take a bit of the “gun” out on the field and take their friggin head off. Whether we win or lose, if the other team says “dammit the was the most painful experience of my life! and we play them again this year? OMG!!!” I will be happy! HAHAHA
Offensively, I want the opposing Defensive Coords to be a bit worried, we have talent we do have play makers and they damn well respect em or they will be hearing alot of Daunte to pettigrew or Stafford to Johnson or K. Smith for a re-dic-u-lous gain!!!.
Again my stance this season is if we lose, well that sucks but if we keep it competive and make the opposing team give a crap they are playing us then I think the season will be a success, i think the Wins will come in 2010 when we draft one of the many awesome DE or DTs coming out =P
"If your not with us...
you're with the terrorists!!"
I like that, "concerned about playing the Lions.."
That’s what I want as well. I don’t want other teams to just think that their next game is an extra bye week. I want them to be cautious and to play their hardest cause they know it’ll take that to beat the Lions.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 4, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say inconsistant
they looked good on run downs, and gave the QB tons of time on certain plays, but would totally fail on others.
by lions_sucker on Sep 4, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I may be in the minority here but...........
I would go with CPep instead of the Golden Staff. Why?? Easy – turnovers. CPep has shown that he will play marginally safer than Staff and I will take that, given our run game seems to be much improved over last year and, with any luck, our Defense isn’t as horrendous as last year. I’m still very concerned about the lack of a pocket we will be giving Staff come the regular season – which will invariably lead to more fumbles and int’s. Do any of you trust Backus or Ramirez/Loper or even Gosder?? Not on your life.
Overall – I think CPep gives us a better chance to stay competitive in games this year.
Two of those turnovers were the direct fault of
Keary Colbert. Another was Johnson not putting any effort into the play. I give Stafford 2 turnovers – 1 pick, 1 fumble, that were from his errors. He’s a gunslinger and a rookie, there will be turnovers, but damn, the kid throws heat seeking missles for passes and has the poise and confidence to start now. He played as well as or better than Culpepper and deserves the start against new Orleans. Let him play and don’t look back.
"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five." ~Groucho Marx
Agreed
If Stafford were erratic or reckless, then I would agree that “safe” is better.
I don’t know exactly what Stafford is yet, but it is not erratic, it is not reckless, and it is certainly better than “safe”.
by HoorayForEverything on Sep 4, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Dauntless Dr. Culpepper should lead us into the new season
he may never see “the promised land”, but I believe he will be the one to lead us out of the desert.
Stafford is the future; the future is his and he knows it.
Experience, however, ALWAYS trumps natural ability.
You have said that multiple times now, and I tend to agree
However, I think it is ultimately more important that Daunte starts so that we can “show off” his talents in an attempt to generate a lucrative trade. If Daunte starts and plays above average for 5 weeks, then maybe we can get a 3rd rounder or more out of him in trade. I think that would be a much smarter (if not also safer) move by the Lions brass than starting the rookie right away and wasting the opportunity to get anything out of Daunte Culpepper.
I don't see why
The Lions would trade him if he’s playing good and winning some games.
I'll tell you why
Why would they trade Daunte Culpepper if he is playing well and winning some games? There are multiple reasons:
1) Because they can
2) Because Matt Stafford is the future of the franchise
3) Because Daunte Culpepper is unlikely to resign with the Lions in a backup role
4) Because Matt Stafford has shown that he is good enough to warrant the opportunity to play THIS year
5) Because Daunte Culpepper has not shown that he is heads and shoulders better than Matt Stafford
6) Because there is no logical reason why they should not trade him if they can get a good trade
I think there are even more reasons, but I will let others add to it. I am a Daunte Culpepper advocate and supporter, as the starter for the Lions to begin the season, but my mind has changed from having Stafford sit all season. I think Stafford should take over at some point during the season (based on what he has shown us that he is capable of), and I think that it would be smart for the Lions brass to showcase Culpepper’s talents in an effort to generate interest in the procurement of his services this season. If he is playing well, and winning games in the first 5 weeks, that is all the better for our chances to get something out of trading him. If we are 5-0 after 5 weeks with DC at the helm, then I might reconsider this viewpoint because it would then be very possible that he could lead us to the P word. However, I feel that we all know how unlikely that is and I feel that the team would be better off getting something in return for the veteran QB, rather than allowing him to leave at the end of the season with nothing in return.
Reason # 5 that's the main reason I think Stafford should get the start
But I don’t think we should have to showcase people Culpepper to get a buyer, this all comes down to what the HC and OC thinks who’s gives the team a better chance to win. And right now Stafford and Johnson seem to have heart shape eye’s for each other. Johnson a guy who’s bigger and faster then almost any WR in the game now has a soul mate who can find him anywhere on the field and deliver a bullet to him. I’d rather keep Culpepper all year even as a back up in case a freak accident happens “knock on wood”
To me, the absolute most important thing
is the QB’s connection with Calvin. Calvin, more than Staff or anyone, is our superstar and our future. The QB with the best rapport with Calvin should be the starter. He makes both QBs better anyways. To me, it seems obvious that Stafford has a much tighter connection with Calvin than Daunte “Check-down” Culpepper. Stafford should start.
+100. Well put Trysdor.
When I saw the smile on Calvin’s face when he caught that first 37 yard bullet from Staff against Indy, I thought the QB competition was over right then.
Someone mentioned it earlier and I think it's a good point.
Coach has said multiple times that we are going to stop the run and run the ball. We saw this in the pre-season more than anything and it is really what I am taking away as the biggest positive.
We dominated TOP in pre-season, we ran the ball significantly better than last season. Smith, Morris, Brown, and even Davis all look worthy of roster slots and I think K. Smooth really showed us something in pre-season.
While Trysdor is right that Calvin is our superstar, I think this season, the team is going to be riding on K.Smooth at this point. This year is going to be his breakout year and is going to show just how good a deal we got on him. I also attribute part of that to the better run blocking.
That being said, I think Peppy has shown considerable poise, hasn’t shown the propensity for turnovers that stafford has, and while he lacks that instant potential for a 90 yard td pass to calvin (from what we’ve seen), he has managed the team and his drives very efficiently.
All that is a moot point however because I don’t care. I just want to see Stafford sling it to CJ in the end zone haha.
I find it interesting that Stafford supporters continue to fall back on Stafford’s longer completions, cannon arm, and supposed chemistry with Calvin Johnson. In so doing they ignore or make excuses for his interceptions and fumbles — the same kind of fumbles they would be screaming “small hands” if it happened to Culpepper.
If you people really think Stafford can throw significantly farther and more accurately than Culpepper, you are welcome to your delusion. It fits right in with getting excited about three long completions to Johnson against Buffalo’s second team defense.
Let Schwartz and Linehan make the quarterback decision on the basis of the things we fans can’t possibly see — how well the two quarterbacks recognized defenses, how well they recognized open receivers, and decision making under stress. Don’t pick a quarterback because you’re more interested in seeing some long completions than winning.
Mont, as you say, in the end Schwartz and Linehan will decide what is best.
Speaking as a Staff supporter I am not making any excuses for his five turnovers. He does need to learn to protect the ball better. I don’t believe that is a skill he will learn holding a clipboard or getting limited reps at practices.
Based on what we have seen this preseason, he is more of a playmaker than Daunte. Whether that is because Daunte has deliberately held back and played very conservatively to “protect” his job or practiced wise decision making is mere speculation. I believe he can throw it more accurately long than Daunte is because he has. I don’t believe Daunte has completed a throw that has travelled more than twenty yards. Those are throws he will have to make during the regular season. He has shown that capability in the past. I would like to see him show that he can stretch the defence across and deep. We will need that to keep defences honest and off the line of scrimmage.
Believe me, Culpepper can stretch the field. Randy Moss never was and never will be an elusive open field runner. His gift was unbelievable speed and great ability to catch the ball. The point being, if you look at Culpepper’s stats from his Vikings years, those long completions were throws to a streaking Moss after he had run by the secondary. Many of those passes were thrown while Culpepper was on the run.
Culpepper may never get his wheels back, but I guarantee you he will remain among elite quarterbacks in his ability to throw the long ball. I don’t believe Stafford’s longer preseason passes have anything to do with arm strength.
That was five years ago Montesa
His last part season in Minnesota 2005 was a disaster. His next three years were just as bad.
Daunte’s record as a starter over the last four years is 5-17. He is not who you think he is.
Funny you should mention 2005. That was the year owner Red “used car” McCombs let Linehan leave and forced Tice to assign double duty to the offensive line coach. Sadly, the offensive line needed a full time coach since they lost two pro-bowl players. And Moss was gone. And playmaker Ontario Smith was gone. And Culpepper was wiped out in the 7th game of the season.
Are you suggesting that Miami in 2006 and Oakland in 2007 would have had winning seasons if only Mathew Stafford had been a rookie in those years? Or if they had started Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, for that matter?
Last year Culpepper came out of retirement, out of shape, and started a game after 3 days practice. This year Favre came out of retirement, has played two preseason games, is playing an offense he knows better than the coaches, and people are still talking about whether he can be successful with only three weeks to get used to his receivers. To mention last season as any indication of how Culpepper might do this year is a sign of irrational hatred or profound ignorance of football. Don’t embarass yourself.
LOL!!!
Let me tell you something Montesa…..you will find that you are better off talking to the wall than trying to convince some people here that Daunte Culpepper is the logical choice to start at QB. Trust me man, I have tried! I agree with you and a few others here, so you are not alone! Very entertaining rebuttal…..:o)
Let's be honest here KDawg...
It’s not like this QB competition is a foregone conclusion with a few people unreasonably wanting Stafford to start. This is a very close competition. I don’t think Culpepper is the logical choice, he is the safe choice. Each QB brings a whole bunch of positives and negatives, it’s just opinion that dictates which side you stand. I think we all know that you’ll never convince the Stafford fans that he doesn’t deserve the start, nor will you be convinced that Culpepper should sit.
I agree that’s it’s fun to read though.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 4, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
And just to be clear, I have no position on who should start at quarterback. Stafford might be ready, or he might learn faster by playing. All I’m saying is don’t count Culpepper out because you don’t think he can throw as far as Stafford, or because he didn’t magically transform basement teams by his presence. I think Culpepper will be around whether he starts or not, for two reasons. One, a starting caliber backup quarterback can be the difference between a winning and losing season, and two, Stafford might turn out to need more time and have to sit after all.
I never counted Daunte out, I am only saying my preference.
I understand how Linehan and Schwartz could select him to start. Daunte has conducted himself very professionally this year. Great shape, working hard, keeping mouth shut, he is doing everything he can to make this a tough decision. My only beef is that he has been too conservative in the preseason games.
I have consistently said we need a healthy Daunte to either start or be a capable back up.
After Daunte went down Brad Johnson came in and went 7 and 2.
They just missed the playoffs finishing 9-7. Johnson was sacked at a rate nearly half of Daunte’s rate [Link: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/2005.htm] and reversed his horrible TD to INT ratio.
You guys make every excuse in the world for Daunte’s past performance but will not give Staff a break. I am asking you to be consistent. Daunte has as much to prove as a rookie, if not more, and you guys ignore his last four years, ignore that he has been passed over by the same teams that you hope to trade him to now because of what he did five or more years ago?
That is what I call hyper optimism.
This attachment to Linehan is also a reach. If their chemistry was so great, why didn’t Linehan make an effort to add the always available Daunte to his Rams teams? Especially with Bulger’s injury history. Watching him play for Miami and Oakland would probably answer that question.
This sums it up
“To mention last season as any indication of how Culpepper might do this year is a sign of irrational hatred or profound ignorance of football. Don’t embarass yourself”.
-Montesa_vr
Last year or any other year in the past…..including the good years. Admittedly, I am also guilty of using the past as an example of DC’s successes. However, I have to agree with Montesa now….in that nothing DC has done before can indicate what he can or will do this year.
Yes
I am tossing my entire argument before out the window. My new argument is based on what we have seen this year. We have seen Culpepper do a great job managing the game and the clock. We have seen that his pocket presence is still good. We have seen him make solid reads and make good decisions with the football. We have seen him move the chains. We have seen him play it safe and conservative, and we have seen that be effective and efficient. The only things we have not seen is Daunte Culpepper forcing passes downfield, making rookie mistakes, and turning the ball over.
Yes, Brad Johnson came in and went 7 and 2 the rest of the season. There are two possiblities there. One is that Johnson in 2005 was a better quarterback than Culpepper. The other is that the backups that were forced into starting on the offensive line started to learn to pass block as the season went on, the overmatched offensive line coach/offensive coordinator started to get a handle on his new duties, and clearly the schedule got easier as the season went along. I mean, two of Johnson’s wins came against Detroit.
Having watched both players from their rookie year and throughout their careers, I think the idea that the Vikings improvement came from a quarterback change is a pretty Iranian concept.
Sorry, IRANIAN? WTF?
Its funny that you will make every excuse you can to explain Daunte’s failures, but will not extend the same consideration to Staff.
If by Iranian you mean logical, then I agree.
FACT: Daunte stunk up the joint in the first seven games he played.
FACT: Brad Johnson took over and played much better.
Everything else is speculation.
Tristan Davis and 53-man RBs
Someone tell me why the Lions won’t keep four RBs on their 53-man roster. And no I don’t mean Aveion Cason for the fourth spot, i mean Tristan Davis. He’s got loads of potential, the only knock on him is his injury history. He was always a budding star at Auburn, but now he’s got a chance to show his ability. He’s explosive, fast (if there’s a difference he’s both), he’s solidly built and runs with good power. With him, and the other three, Detroit would have some nice young talent for the future.
1. Kevin Smith
2. Maurice Morris
3. Aaron Brown
4. Tristan Davis
Also, Brown doubles as a kick returner, that’s got to provide some roster flexibility. And he plays more of a Reggie Bush role than a pure runner, couldn’t the Lions use another RB, especially one as talented as Davis?
I agree
I’d like to see Davis make the roster, he seems very solid.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 4, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Waive Nate Colbert......
He will only hit about .143 and he doesn’t have any power, drops the ball and falls over his own clumsy legs!
stafford Lack of Finish in the Red Zone is because all of the weapons were on the Bench
Pettigrew, the two Johnsons, Kevin Smith all played minimal minutes in the redzone. Calvin Johnson did drop a touchdown pass once in the redzone with coverage tight. Stafford will be a stud in the NFL someday soon.
I also can't recall Stafford having many throws in the red-zone.
Most of the time, we practised goal-line situations and sent in Felton. I don’t think you can blame Stafford.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 4, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
start staff
ur right it was not staff if he has all 3 weapons out there with ks and pettigrew man hill be 100% better then culpepper trade him for DL and trade o connel for somthing, new englend needs QB and so does denver. colbert trade him for a pop machine and trade cason for a toilet. there both washed up and need to go. Im sure there is a CB out there they can pick up and or trade and put one of our CBS to saftey.
BTW
The Bears cut Rod Hood. Guess there was a good reason Detroit didn’t try for him after all.
Last but not least
Now that pre-season is over, it’s time for my opinion on who should start.
Personally, as much as I’ve enjoyed watching Stafford play. I’d play Culpepper, barring his injury of course. For me, I side on KDawg here, but not because I don’t think Stafford is ready, because I think he will handle starting well. I want Culpepper to start for three reasons.
1. It’s important to me that we pick up our first win early, I don’t want this losing streak to continue any longer and I think Culpepper can deliver that win via his “conservative” play.
2. Culpepper, while not fantastic, has been solid. Stafford hasn’t necessarily beaten him, nor him Stafford, so I say go with the experience at first, see what he offers. His time is most likely short here, so why not give him a few games to showcase his abilities, if only as a trade ploy. Stafford won’t miss out on anything by being on the bench for the first 5 or 6 games.
3. The start of our schedule is very tough, and I’m worried that Stafford may struggle against them to start his career. There’s every chance he might do well as well, but I’d rather Culpepper take the brunt than Staff.
Well, there my reasons, whether they come to fruition, I’m unsure. Either way, we have to guys who we can at least be pretty happy about under center, unlike a few teams in the league right now.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Well reasoned HE
I can see the decision going that way. It will be an interesting, I mean frustrating, week long wait to see.
If Culpepper can play
He will be the starter vs New Orleans…..I am quite sure of it. That doesn’t mean I can’t be wrong, but I would bet on it.
Colbert needs to go
we have enough problems, we dont need Colbert out there creating new ones.
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!
































