Lions Nearly Lost Gronkowski, Murtha to Other Teams
by Sean Yuille on Sep 6, 2009 7:29 PM EDT
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Dan Gronkowski and Lydon Murtha, who were released yesterday and signed to the practice squad today by the Lions, nearly ended up going to New York and Seattle, respectively. Tom Kowalski explains:
The New York Jets put in a waiver wire claim for Gronkowski and the Seattle Seahawks did the same thing with Murtha. However, both teams had submitted multiple claims and had prioritized them and, when each team got a higher 'ranked' claim, they gave up their bid on Detroit's two rookies.
I'm glad things worked out the way they did, as I have a feeling Gronkowski will be on the active roster at some point this season. It seems like injuries are always common with Lions tight ends. I hate to say it, but someone like Casey FitzSimmons, for example, just seems to be injury prone, and I think Gronkowski will get a shot sooner rather than later.
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Is Gronkowski
The tight end who got in a fight with D. White? If it is, wouldn’t they cut him just like they cut DE Smith who they traded for, but his big mouth got him cut? If it’s not, ignore this. Thanks.
by topherclosson on Sep 6, 2009 7:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
That was Butler.........he got cut
by BennieBladesFan on Sep 6, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now on the PS
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 6, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i donno about the fight
but unless i doint understnd the PS cant they pick them up any way??
Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??
by det32 on Sep 6, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, they can sign anyone off of our practice squad...
It just becomes more of a burden on them because a player signed off ps must be added to the 53 man roster and kept there for at least 3 weeks. I would venture to guess that Gronkowski and Murtha were viewed as ps only players to the Jets and Seahawks, respectively.
by MaggsIsMyTiger on Sep 6, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do have to say though i do wish Casey FitzSimmons was on the PS and gronk was on team
and bing and follit switched spots as well then i would be vary happy
Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??
by det32 on Sep 6, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fitzsimmons can't be on the practice squad
He is not eligible…..
by KDawg on Sep 6, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fitz
is expendable, i think we should cut him and keep heller, gron and grew. fitz is always broken.
by Usmarine0341 on Sep 6, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all are claims so for..that we know about any way
DE Copeland Bryan
CB Kevin Hobbs
WR/KR Yamon Figurs
CB Marcus McCauley
anyone know any thing about them?? they start???
Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??
by det32 on Sep 6, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I watch a ton of Ravens Games living in MD..
Yamon Figures is the only player I have ever seen who shouldn’t be listed as a WR/KR…he is a return man only. Granted, he is a good one, but the guy runs routes like he has parkinsons and couldn’t catch a cold.
But, he is fast..think Kenny Jett, with a little bit of wiggle.
http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/
by CapitolLions on Sep 8, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrance Taylor is still available
I was bloggin with KDawg and he really likes Terrane Taylor, so I did some research and found out Indy still didn’t sign him to the practie squad. He is a 4th round pick in 09 and he could be valuable. Why not pick him up since we let Smith go?
It may be now..it may be later...later aint gonna be no use! Am I right Al? We got alot of angry guys in their black panthers,muslims, young lords, besides you average anti-socials. We gotta go in, am I right, clean their clocks!
by Peter Chung on Sep 6, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
any thing more on him??
i donno he is worth a look at are line is rockey at best
Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??
by det32 on Sep 6, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm very happy we got these guys back
I was disappointed when we lost all our 7th rounders, but thankfully, they found their way back to us.
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
by Hyperion Ecta on Sep 6, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+111111
Kevin Smith let em kno, Ernie Sims Break em, Calvin Johnson you already Kno
2009 Detroit Lions 6-10 to 8-8
by DetroitLions 4 life on Sep 6, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keep hearing
to sign Taylor. I dont know anything about the guy. How good is he?????
by Usmarine0341 on Sep 6, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Michigan player
big body who can clog the hole!!! if our D-line are supposed to be big 300 lbs guys to stuff the middle this guy fits the mold!!! after cutting Alama signing this guy would make me feel a little better…
by msivits on Sep 6, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ya it would be nice
he isnt picked up by no one yet nor on the cults practice squad i wounder whats going on
by sandvet on Sep 6, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is definitely frustrating to me....
I do not understand what they are doing…..they were already thin on the D-Line, and now they are minus 2 more guys…..I was really hoping they would sign Terrence Taylor. He is big and strong, and he is a run stopper with a high motor. He was pretty awesome at Michigan.
by KDawg on Sep 6, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is deff
i have bean waiten for them to just pick him up im like damn our big. need for some reason doesnt get solved DL and this guy we can get and he is alright.
by sandvet on Sep 6, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
This is another one of those Duke Robinson/Rey Maualuga situations where we think a player is alot better than he actually is.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 6, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bam
I was just going to type something similar
by JazzyBBP on Sep 6, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that thing about great minds
But face it, Taylor is a 4th rd pick, he would have to mess up really bad in order to warrant his walking papers. Teams don’t just throw away 4th rd picks because they are deep in the position, usually teams give them a bit more time to develop, or at least use them as trade bait. Taylor has to have weight problems or something nasty like that.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 6, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong
I like him, he was good at Michigan, but pro scouts know what they’re doing and there must be something there to keep him from making the team. Maybe its weight, could be between the ears, could be coachability. Who knows?
I thought Indy reached for him a bit in the draft in rd 4. Good teams have the luxery of missing on mid-round picks
by JazzyBBP on Sep 6, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is
It usually takes 2-3 years to fully guage a prospect and determine if he’s capable or not. I dont think you can determine a prospect is uncoachable or has a low IQ with 4 preseason games, and a handful of practices
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 6, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
It is true that he only carried a 2.2 GPA in High School and he only scored a 20 on his ACT (He must have gotten an athletic scholarship to attend the U of M because an ACT score of 27 is only in the 25% percentile of U of M Freshman, and 31 or higher is the 75% percentile). The standard requirement for U.S. students entering any University is at least a composite score of 22 on the ACT.
However, his football IQ could be much greater (IE Louis Delmas)…..I have been looking around at Colts websites and have read nothing about any injuries or problems with him learning their system.
by KDawg on Sep 6, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I saw
Was on the Colt’s SBNation site, it said “Terrance Taylor: A huge project. Cross your fingers and hope he makes it to the practice squad.”
I’ve posted a fanpost asking for more information,
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 6, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far
Most Colt fans are hoping he slips past waivers, none can say why he was released though.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 6, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is just as good of a prospective project as Sammie Lee Hill
if you ask me, if not better. Taylor has played against Big 10 competition and played well too. If nothing else, the Lions should bring him over to our practice squad, but I think he could produce in a rotation immediately.
by KDawg on Sep 6, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The draft scout
Said that he should make the Colts and be part of their regular rotation. That was said on August 23rd. Suddenly, he did not play against the Lions…..why? Likely because the Colts wanted more of a pass rusher vs a run stopper. Taylor is a gap plugging run stopper, and his strength allows him to shed blocks easily. He had 50 tackles for the U of M during one season! That had not been done by a DT at Michigan since Josh Williams in 1997….tell me that is no good. I do not believe for one second that there is anything wrong with TT.
by KDawg on Sep 6, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sounds just to Schwartz's liking
Lost weight last fall to fit into the Wolverines’ new defensive alignment but can play up in weight if necessary.
He can be the next Grady Jackson, a massive run stopper who requires a double team at all times. He’s already around 310, if he can gain even more weight, wow… just wow
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 6, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't TT have ankle problems during training camp?
by JazzyBBP on Sep 6, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only knock I have seen against him
in the preseason was a little inconsistency. He is a rookie for crying out loud! He’s not going to be a superstar over night, but I would say that he is likely ahead of Sammie Lee Hill technique wise….I just do not see why the Lions would not have him on their radar. They skipped him in the draft and they seem to be staying away from him now too.
by KDawg on Sep 6, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't get much reps in the preseason
Which I don’t understand, you want to at least give the rookie a chance to prove himself before cutting him loose. This was a very Raider’s-like move by a normally straight shooting Colt’s organization.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 6, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
??
DT Terrance Taylor is continuing to get plenty of work during the preseason along the Colts’ interior defensive line. Should become a regular member of the team’s defensive line rotation.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=57286&draftyear=2009&genpos=DT
by KDawg on Sep 7, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
According to the Colt’s SBNation website, most were saying they didn’t get a good enough look at him.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 7, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hill will
be twice the player taylor will be
by BennieBladesFan on Sep 6, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasnt......
…….Francis a 4rd round pick….we cut him?……Just becasue he was a 4th round pick doesnt mean hes better then what weve got
by BennieBladesFan on Sep 6, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was a 2nd rounder
I think he was taken in the same draft as Stanton
by JazzyBBP on Sep 7, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
We didn’t draft him this year, we gave him time to turn into a player which he didn’t.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 7, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
But remember the draft? We were hoping and praying he would fall to our pick, and look where he ended up going.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 6, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KDawg I'm with you 100% on this one!!!
by msivits on Sep 6, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest thing on him is
he lost weight to fit Michigan new D style, he could easily go 320lbs and be good for us, just needs time to get back to his weight before Rich came to Michigan…
by msivits on Sep 6, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
And he is 303 now…..he’s a beast. We should sign him…..like yesterday.
by KDawg on Sep 7, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like the Lions to at least put the guy on the practice squad, they have one open PS spot left. I don’t know if he’s ready for NFL gametime DT rotation yet, but the potential is there.
by JazzyBBP on Sep 7, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i gots a feeling
we still see a dline & an oline picked up.
by londonlion on Sep 6, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hope so
I am a little worried about our DL situation more so than our OL (believe it or not) I am not saying our OL is uber but the DL needs some help
is there a central source somewhere with info regarding available players or those on the waiver wire?
"If your not with us...
you're with the terrorists!!"
by alpha lion on Sep 6, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what about Tim Crowder???
He is only 24 and was a 2nd round pick out of Texas by Denver. He is young and has been in the league for 2 years. He has nice size too.
by yamahawarrior89 on Sep 6, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
position?
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Sep 6, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys,
I just found this little snippet from the Bleacher Report on several guys we should look at and snag for the roster. 2 of them I’ve seen mentioned on here are Tayler and Pollard. What do you think about the others that are mentioned in the article?
by Usmarine0341 on Sep 6, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bernard Pollard
would be nice donno any thing on the rest
Just Remember matt... what would Daunte do??
by det32 on Sep 6, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
that massive guy Terdell Sands could be a good fit for running downs. The guy is massive and could rotate in and out with Hill and Jackson. Could be worth a look.
by Usmarine0341 on Sep 6, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean, Maybe the dust has not settled yet, but is there an updated roster?
I am impressed with the activity of the Lions. It appears they have done a lot of preparation for this weekend.
We earned this spot [first call on waivers] so lets use it to our best advantage.
by NorthLeft12 on Sep 7, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Terrence Taylor
The Colts cut him because there is a logjam at DT. The team drafted Mauli from USC in the 2nd round and they re-signed Ed Johnson who was cut under Dungy last season after being pulled over on I-465 with weed.
The Colts also cut Denyatta Dawson who got major playing time last year.
As a huge Michigan fan I was excited to see them draft TT, thought he would be a regular, but it seems like he needs more time to develop, which might be good or a team like the Lions, who can endure some growing pains as expectations arent as high as they are for a team like the Colts.
Alama-Francis departure does make it look like thres room…another wasted 2nd round pick by Millen, guy wasted draft picks like blue states waste our tax dollars!
by dezznutz1001 on Sep 7, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you a Colts fan?
If so, thanks for the insight. I agree that the Lions could do well by picking up a “project” at DT. What do we have to lose? We already spent a pick on a DT out of Stillman College just for his athletic ability. Why not take a chance on a DT who played against BIG 10 competition?
by KDawg on Sep 7, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor
Would be a nice project.Knock on him at U of M was he didn’t show up in big games.
by hammy85 on Sep 7, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big T
Word on the street and I have very VERY reliable sources on this is that Terrance will be signed somewhere this weekend. Cross your fingers!
by Darthtat2 on Sep 25, 2009 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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