Draft Options
by JMW62689 on Jan 16, 2010 11:26 AM EST
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PrintI strongly believe that St Louis will take Jimmy Clausen with the No 1 overall pick because of Stephen Jackson needing help and a rapidly declining Offense a QB is going to be the Rams No 1 Choice. Look Clausen's attitude reminds me a little of Phillip Rivers or Jay Cutler, in that all 3 are basically jerks on the field but are still excellent leaders and get the job done, St Louis could use this kind of fire on their team. Jimmy Clausen is going No 1 overall.
St Louis can not and will not trade out of the 1st pick, Why would Tampa Bay trade up and sacrifice picks when they have Gerald McCoy as a consolation prize? Seattle won't draft up cause Taylor Mays goes to them with their 1st pick then Everson Griffin to them with there 2nd. San Francisco has a good Defense already and they desprately need a QB so and then they can draft one of the DTs behind Suh and McCoy so there option of getting a top QB and a great Defensive player is better then one Elite DT (They might try to trade up for a QB but that still leaves Suh for us). I doubt that any other team would give up a 1st round this year a 2nd or 3rd Round this year and a 1st Round net year just to get Suh and yes i believe thats what it would take. So no the Rams arent going to Trade their pick.
This all being said, If the unexpected happens i think we go Eric Berry over Gerald McCoy i don't like McCoy myself (Suh and McCoy both play in the Big 12 McCoy had 6 sacks on the year, Suh had 4 1/2 in one game, argueably the biggest game of the year too) but he is big and would be nice to see in a Lions uniform i still would go with Berry though.
Round 1: Ndamakong Suh DT Nebraska- Duh people, its pretty obvious if he is there we take him, is there any one who says we shouldn't?
if Suh is gone: Eric Berry SS Tennessee- Ok people get it out of your head right now, if we draft him he is not playing CB he is a Safety and a real good one, why does he not play CB for Tennessee? Delmas started his College Career as a Corner, but he is a better Safety, Berry is better as a Safety too.
or: Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma- More of a project than Suh is but he is still very good, he seems more of a run stuffer though and i think what we need is pressure on the QB from the Inside, but he is still a great pick
Other guys i would consider: Dan Williams,Greg Hardy,Derrick Morgan
Round 2: Patrick Robinson CB Florida State- Good in coverage, good size, some say he is only behind Joe Haden, others say he needs work, which one is it? i don't know, i myself like him but we will see where he is on the Draft board for the Lions
or: Mike Iupati OG Idaho- I would hate this pick myself, but i agree we need a guard and he is the best so if the Lions decide to go with him then alright
or: Jonathon Dwyer RB Georgia Tech- Big and Strong, has good speed for his size, i like that he can break tackles and run people over, should be a nice compliment to what we have already (Smith or Brown). The big question is if he he is good enough for this pick, i personally think so but we won't really know till after the Combine
Others i would consider: Ryan Matthews,Brandon Spikes (if he fell) Rolando McClain (If he Fell) Bryan Bulaga (If he fell) Bruce Campbell (If he fell) Ciron Black (If he shows he should go there) Golden Tate,Jermaine Gresham
Round 3: Jerome Murphy CB USF- I like him he has the size and ball skills that are desired, a good tackler, also returns Kicks, thats always a plus
or: Trevard Lindley CB Kentucky- great quickness and ball skills, small but tough, another guy i really like
or: Damaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech- Love the size, like the speed, Routes are bad but i think thats something he can get better at with coaching, you can't coach size can't coach speed. Ran a 4.6 if he can cut that down to a 4.55 or close to that i think he is a surefire pick here.
Others i would consider: Major Wright,Jon Asamoah,George Selvie,Vince Oghobaase,Barry Church
Round 4: Larry Asante SS Nebraska- good in run support, good in coverage (At a college level) looks to be a nice compliment to Delmas
or: Jacoby Ford WR Clemson- Fast and explosive a slot guy, good returner
or: Dexter McCluster RB/WR/Wildcat Ole Miss- Its Dexter McCluster my prediction is that he goes in round 2 to the Raiders. But if he is here for us, he is very intriguing, if he puts on some more muscle he could be a huge steal, Chris Johnson Speed, and great toughness for his size
or: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB Indiana (Pa.)- Really raw but has good size, good speed, could be a steal here. Coming off surgery that could effect things but he is still a good player to look at in rounds
Later Rounds: look at Greg Matthews,Blair White and Tim Hiller from here in Michigan. Brandon Carter,Eric Moncur,Cam Thomas,Aleric Mullins,Randy Earl,Derek Hardman,Casey Knips,James Starks,Lonyae Miller,Andre Dixon,Anthony Dixon,Javarris James,Naaman Roosevelt,Armanti Edwards,Andre Roberts,Myron Lewis,Chris Hawkins,Jamar Wall,Stephan Virgil are all guys i think we should take a look at in later rounds.
Free Agents i would target
Offense: Jerome Harrison,Kevin Walter
Defense: Aaron Kampman,Kyle Vanden Bosch,Jevon Kearse,Keith Bulluck
Resign Larry Foote
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Look for the Lions to address the offensive and defensive trenches this year, it will be there main focus.
RD1 Gerald McCoy, if Suh isnt there, would rather have Berry but i dont think the lions will take him because of the Delmas pick last year.
RD2 Mike Lupati, this guy is huge and will take care of our LG woes, my dark horse here is Javid Best, if he falls i think they pull the trigger on him, its a gut check here.
RD3 BPA
\RD4 BPA
RD5 both picks BPA
RD 6 BPA
RD7 BPA
The lions will stick to the game plan from last year.
FA Aaron Kampman would be great, i like the Kevin Walter idea too
Let's see
A developmental Associated Press SECOND team All American DT who played in the same conference as Suh, and didn’t even have half of his production, or an Associated Press 1st team All American safety who is AWESOME at his position, and who is thought by many to be the #1 prospect in the entire draft…….
Ever seen those old commercials where they show a football play, ask a question, and say “You make the call”??
I don’t care if we did take a safety last year……we NEED another one! Eric Berry will be the #2 pick if Suh is the #1 pick. That is my call.
Oh by the way.....
Berry wasn’t just an AP 1st team All American…..he was a UNANIMOUS 1st team All American.
And Berry won the Jim Thorpe Award
Best DB in college football.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
+1
Wasnt he a… is it maxwell? award winner? um best safety or DB in college?
Forgive me I dont remember all the names of the awards.
Agrees he is the better player available (if Suh is gone) nuff said.
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I didn't realize we drafted according to how many college awards you won.
Stafford won……..how many awards? Delmas won…… how many awards?
I’ll save you the research. NONE. Those guys are our offensive and defensive leaders.
It is gonna be real embarrassing for you guys, again, when the Lions pick the player that you spent the whole off season trashing. Try and be constructive and promote your favourites without dumping on the other guys.
Here we go again
There is a reason why these guys get those awards. The coaches vote, the media votes (AP and Sporting News), The Walter Camp Football Foundation votes, and the The Football Writers Association of America votes. They vote on who the BEST college football players in the nation are at each position. Gerald McCoy is not even a CONCENSUS 1st team All-American this year. That has to tell you something, whether you choose to like it or not. He is not the player you wish he was, and he will not have the immediate impact on our defense that you think he will (if we were dumb enough to draft him if Suh goes #1).
I might concede if McCoy was even a consensus 1st team All American (he needed at least 3 of the 5 organizations, recognized by the NCAA, to vote for him….only 1 (The Sporting News) did. He is a consensus 2nd team All American (4 votes). That means he is good, but he is not a top flight DT (nor is he worth the #2 pick in the draft). The only reason that Stafford and Delmas were not at least consensus 1st team All Americans are that they played for Georgia and Western Michigan, respectively, and did not get the recognition they deserved. Gerald McCoy plays for Oklahoma….one of the biggest name football schools in the nation…..and didn’t do enough to be named at least a consensus 1st team All American? I watched him play…..and I agree (with the NCAA recognized voting organizations) that he was not all that great. So I have my own personal account of how good he is, as formulated by watching him with my own eyes, coupled with the opinions of 4 of the 5 NCAA recognized organizations for determining All American teams. The conclusion is that he is not good enough to reach for him at pick 2.
I’m promoting the better player in Eric Berry…..HE IS NOT MY FAVORITE! You’re right about one thing……I will be embarrassed if the Lions draft Gerald McCoy at pick #2. I will be embarrassed to be a lifelong fan of this team, when incompetence rears it’s ugly head year in and year out. Nothing short of incompetence will land Gerald McCoy in Detroit (unless of course we were to trade down and get him later in the first round…..he IS a first rounder…..just not worthy of pick #2). Also, I am not “trashing” anyone. I am stating the facts as I (and 4 major NCAA recognized organizations) see it. Be constructive? Constructive: ADJ – constructing or tending to construct; helping to improve; promoting further development or advancement (opposed to destructive ): constructive criticism. What are you helping to improve? What are you developing or advancing through promotion of Gerald McCoy? Nada.
LOL....
Easy fella… Speculation and Opinions. I take everyone’s comments on the draft as ’tongue’n’cheek’ until after free agency and the combine.
Its all bullshit until then.
agreed..wait until the second week of March....
Than we can start putting the names in better draft spots. But I will name one comment about the lack of awards for Gerald McCoy. Mario WIlliams was never a concenus First Team All-American. He only recieved one first team vote from SI. Wait until the indiviual workouts and the combine to decide whether the guy is a bust or not.
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+100
2009 = The start of the Lions Golden Age (We hope).
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Jan 17, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with KDawg on this one
I too would be embarassed if we drafted McCoy. As for Mario Williams, he was drafted on physical attributes/ability and upside, rather than production. Suh would be also, AND he has the production! Bonus! On the other hand, McCoy isn’t a physical freak, and doesn’t appear to have much upside……and he had less than half the sacks and tackles of Suh. McCoy won’t get faster, is unlikely to get stronger, and doesn’t base his game on strength anyway. I dare anybody to name one specific drill at the Combine where McCoy will exceed expectations and blow everyone away with his performance.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
I didn't say he would bust for sure.....
I have said he will be a developmental player and that he has bust written all over him (which I agree may not be entirely fair, but it is my opinion). I agree that the combine etc can change things, but in this case I wouldn’t say it will make that big of a difference. Why wasn’t Mario Williams at least a consensus 1st team All American? I got three letters for you…..ACC. Had Williams played for Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas, or a different big name Big 12 football school, he would have been named to the All American team. Gerald McCoy did play for a big name Big 12 football team in Oklahoma….and he was not named to the 1st team All American squad…..
Yes, that's constructive KDawg.
Let’s forget about scouting these guys and just ask the reporters and coaches who vote to pick for us.
You trash those voters for not recognizing Delmas and Staff, then you turn around and use their voting record as proof that McCoy is not that good. WOW! LOL.
Facts as you see them:
1.Gerald McCoy is undersized for a DT at 6’4" and 297 pounds.
2.Every scouting site and NFL prospect rater/guru that has McCoy as the #2 DT and a top five pick in the 2010 draft is wrong.
3.Gerald McCoy has BUST tatooed on some part of his body. I think I am glad I don’t know where.
I am not promoting anyone. I am observing that most ALL of the prospect ratings have McCoy in the top five of the class, he plays a position that has been identified as a big need for the Lions, and that there is a 50/50 chance [my estimate] that he will be the top DT available when the Lions pick at #2. From that I think there is a even chance that we will pick him as the choice will come down to McCoy and Berry.
I don’t reject him outright, like you, or try to read Mayhew’s and Schwartz’s mind, like you. I am just stating the obvious, that there is a pretty good chance that he will end up wearing a Lions jersey.
I am not calling anyone incompetent, like you,if they pass on him, because Berry is a fine player and will be a good addition to this team. Hell, so would Okung, although I don’t think he would be as valuable as McCoy or Berry.
We will see what happens at the draft because I don’t really see the combines, etc. changing their standing much unless one of them gets injured.
Thanks for putting words in my mouth
I love it when people do that…..it makes me so HAPPY! sarcasm alert
1) I never said “don’t scout anyone. just draft Suh or Berry”. In fact, I encourage the Lions to scout McCoy. They will see what I saw if they do, and if they do not then yes, they are either BLIND or INCOMPETENT.
2) I never said “Every scouting site and NFL prospect rater/guru that has McCoy as the #2 DT and a top five pick in the 2010 draft is wrong”. I said HE DOES NOT WARRANT BEING DRAFTED AT PICK #2! In fact, I have stated elsewhere that I would draft McCoy if we could trade down and get him later in the first round (Yes, I disagree that he is a top 5 prospect….that does not mean I am unequivocally correct).
3) “Gerald McCoy has BUST tatooed on some part of his body. I think I am glad I don’t know where”. Now you’re just being an asshole, and my only response is too explicit to post. Instead I will just say, it’s MY OPINION. Deal with it.
4) You ARE promoting Gerald McCoy! Christ, if he was Mike Tyson you would be Don King! Every time someone says something against your precious McCoy, you jump to his defense like a mother hen to her baby chick! Again, it is not that I failed to notice that he is rated in the top 5 by everyone. It is that he IS NOT rated in the top TWO, and HE NEVER WILL BE! You said it yourself…..the combine isn’t likely to change much.
4) I am not rejecting McCoy outright. I think you have me confused with GRLion (he really hates the idea of McCoy, even more that I do). I AM rejecting him as the BPA after Suh though. NOBODY (I’m talking about “Every scouting site and NFL prospect rater/guru” now) will stand there and tell you that Gerald McCoy is a better player than Eric Berry. You can take that to the bank.
5) I did not call anyone incompetent outright either. I said that, in my opinion, nothing short of incompetence would land Gerald McCoy in Detroit, IF Suh is gone at #1. I am sticking to that OPINION too, because either they will competently stick to their BPA regardless of positional need strategy, or they will incompetently stray from their own proclamations and draft Gerald McCoy as the BPA based on positional need. As I said above "NOBODY (I’m talking about “Every scouting site and NFL prospect rater/guru” now) will stand there and tell you that Gerald McCoy is a better player than Eric Berry", and as such Gerald McCoy will not be the BPA unless the Lion’s FO is drafting based on positional need…..plain and MF simple. Eric Berry WILL be the BPA if Suh goes #1 and we are sitting there with the 2nd pick still.
6) It’s not that I think McCoy is a bad player, or that he could not develop into something special. In fact, in my reply to londonlion below, I said “Gerald McCoy is a good run defender with a quick first step, but he does not possess the strength to overcome most college double teams, let alone doing just that in the NFL. He could develop into a great 4-3 DT, there is no doubt in my mind about that, but we need immediate impact at pick #2, and that will come with Eric Berry, not Gerald McCoy”. My issue here is the front office and the head coach sticking to their guns and keeping their word, not whether or not Gerald McCoy is a good player. I simply believe (from what I have seen with my own eyes, AND by what all of the scouting sites and NFL prospect rater/gurus are saying) that Eric Berry is the better player, and that he will be the BPA if Suh goes #1.
And lastly…..
7) I HOPE THE RAMS DRAFT JIMMY CLAUSEN SO THAT WE CAN DRAFT NDAMUKONG SUH AND FORGET ALL ABOUT THE MINUTE POSSIBILITY OF US DRAFTING GERALD MCCOY!!!!
Shorter KDawg; If you don't agree with me you don't know anything about football.
Does that about cover it?
by NorthLeft12 on Jan 18, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
No NL.....that is about as ignorant a post as I have seen you put up yet
You’re starting to sound like rbanner……
What part of “my opinion” do you not understand? I am so tired of some of you guys who just do not get it. You put words in my mouth, you make assumptions about my intent, and when I try to explain my logic to you, you close your eyes and start attacking my credibility. It’s not my fault that you can’t comprehend the simple ENGLISH that Mayhew and Schwartz have communicated…..we will draft the best players available, regardless of positional need! That does not mean we will draft the 2nd best DT on the board just because we need one. That does not mean we will draft anyone except the best player available!
IF the front office and coaching staff determine that Gerald McCoy is the best player available after Suh, then yes, they will draft him. However, I find it hard to believe that will happen when so many people think that Eric Berry is the best player in the draft. If the Rams take Suh, it stands to LOGICAL reason that the Lions will draft Eric Berry, as the pick will NOT be based on NEED, but rather on the fact that he will be the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE!
You can disagree with me all you like. I am not saying it means you are stupid or that you do not know football. In fact, I never made that implication or statement. Stop putting words in my mouth and find something better to do.
In fact, I encourage the Lions to scout McCoy. They will see what I saw if they do, and if they do not then yes, they are either BLIND or INCOMPETENT.
Did you not write this a few posts up? What the hell does that mean? Do you not read what you write or think before you write it?
And a little later;
I said that, in my opinion, nothing short of incompetence would land Gerald McCoy in Detroit, IF Suh is gone at #1.
So if they draft him ahead of Berry they are incompetent.
THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP!
by NorthLeft12 on Jan 19, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
It's an opinion.....that is the point!
I never said everyone else has to agree with me or they don’t know football! I stated my opinion that if the Lions drafted Gerald McCoy over Suh, that they must be blind and incompetent. That is my opinion! I AM entitled to it!
As a solid and short retort....
There is NO WAY Mayhew/Schwartz is going to draft the #2 of any position with the #2 pick.
Is that because it is impossible for two outstanding prospects to be at the same position in the same draft?
I think I can name a few examples of hat happening if you like. But I know that you know enough about football and the draft history that you know that has happened already.
by NorthLeft12 on Jan 18, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
REALLY?
Mayhew has drafted a #2 player with the first pick?….hmmmm Stafford…nope….Pettigrew….nope….Delmas……nope…
hmmmm….. have fun proving the devil is real.
CLF, Mayhew and Schwartz know more about drafting and what they need/want than we do.
They are not as inflexible as that. They care about the relative value of the players available. Not who is at the top of any position chart.
If they think Berry is better value than McCoy, they will take him. They don’t care whether there is a “better” prospect available and taken.
That makes no sense whatsoever.
by NorthLeft12 on Jan 18, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I kinda have to agree with NL here
I think Mayhew and Schwartz will take McCoy if they feel that he is the 2nd best player in the draft, no matter if he is also the second best DT. In fairness, I have to say that I don’t see that happening, as I think Berry is a significantly better player than McCoy.
Look at the first three picks the Lions made last year, they were not only the BPA for their position, but more importantly they were the BPA in the draft at that time.
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Mayhew and Schwartz WILL take Gerald McCoy IF they feel he is the 2nd best player in the draft (which by majority account, he is not at this point). If the combine somehow vaults Gerald McCoy to the top of the draft rankings, or at least ahead of Eric Berry, then so be it…..however, I have my serious doubts that will happen. I would be willing to be that Eric Berry remains as either the consensus best player in the draft, or at least the 2nd best player in the draft behind Suh (which means that IF the Lions FO sticks to it’s word and drafts BPA regardless of position as a manner by which to build this team, via the draft, they will draft Eric Berry if Suh is gone at pick 2).
Um ok and who votes for Heisman?????
And how well have Matt Leinart, Jason White, Eric Crouch, Chris Weinke, Ron Dayne, Rashaan Salaam and so on and so forth do in the NFL?
Also all Berry won was the Jim Thorpe Award and here are some previous winners for you. Aaron Ross, Michael Huff, Derrick Strait, Jamar Fletcher, Tyrone Carter. Sure there are some decent players that won it but winning an award in college football doesn’t mean SHIT in the NFL. Here’s a newsflash Ed Reed, Troy Palamalu, Adrian Wilson, Bob Sanders, Darren Sharper, none of them won that award. So by your logic they are bums and complete NFL busts because they didn’t win an award and Berry will automatically be a Hall of Fame player because he won an NCAA award. And the only way a player can be good in the NFL is by being a consensus all-american. It looks more like to me that NCAA award winners are more often busts than not in the NFL.
In case you haven’t figured it out College Football Awards don’t mean a DAMN thing in the NFL. That is a true statement. But yet we should base our draft on who has more college awards and who is a more decorated college player?
I am not “trashing” anyone I am just stating facts. Be constructive.
by toled0lions on Jan 18, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
blah, blah, blah yea.
That’s all your saying. You don’t have anything smart to say back because you have no basis for riding Berry so hard. Just oh he won this and retard writers voted for him for that. His awards don’t mean shit in the NFL. I’ll say again watch film from the V. Tech game where average receivers and a QB who can’t throw torch him all game and he doesn’t make a single play. I want that player, you know the one who was always out of position and got beat on every play. Keep listening to Kiper and not watch film or judge a player for yourself.
by toled0lions on Jan 20, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Berry isn't always out of position and getting beat every play
Maybe you are over-exaggerating. No prospect is perfect every game. Even the all-powerful Suh struggled at times.
The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Jan 21, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Plus maybe it was the CB who was out of position
…..and Berry had to clean up after the CB’s mistakes. Plying the Safety position is a thankless job like that sometimes. People blame you for other people’s mistakes.
What? He can’t block a dead gopher? Humph, details.
At least I am not a Lions fan in Ohio....
And just because you think you know better “toled0lions”, does not mean that you do. I HATE Mel Kiper, but even a blind man can see that Eric Berry is the real deal. If Kiper were the only asshat out there who was saying that Berry is the BEST prospect in the draft, then your argument might have some credo. Since he is not, all you are doing is blowing a lot of hot air. Funny how you can sit there and criticize the people who are NATIONALLY recognized as experts and the NCAA. Like you are smarter than they are…..too funny.
Do yourself a favor and shut up.
I dont care what everyone says......
I want the Lions to draft Stafford with their first pick. Not Curry. We need a franchise quarterback and ……OH wait. Wrong agrument. I will get back to ya. In March….
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
sorry i've been away a lot lately...
but nice to see you on board w/ berry :) you weren’t on that wagon at first…
True
However, my argument is not that Berry should be our pick at #2. My argument is that he will be the BPA at pick #2 IF Suh goes #1. My argument is that Eric Berry is a unanimous 1st team All American (as is Suh), while Gerald McCoy is only a consensus 2nd team All American, and that we would be reaching if we drafted him at pick #2 in the draft. I am on board with drafting Eric Berry IF and only IF Ndamukong Suh is not available. Berry is a better player at his position than Gerald McCoy is at his…..and that is all there is to it in my mind. Plus, Eric Berry may very well be a better cornerback than a safety in the NFL….so his versatility alone warrants him a higher grade than Gerald McCoy, in my opinion. Berry is a hard nosed run defender in the box, and he has ball skills that are unmatched by ANY prospective college player who will be available in this draft. Gerald McCoy is a good run defender with a quick first step, but he does not possess the strength to overcome most college double teams, let alone doing just that in the NFL. He could develop into a great 4-3 DT, there is no doubt in my mind about that, but we need immediate impact at pick #2, and that will come with Eric Berry, not Gerald McCoy.
agree
I think the rams go with Clausen and Suh will be available at 2. If for some reason Suh is not there they have to go with Eric Berry. At this pick I can’t justify taking Mccoy over Berry based on who we drafted last year. We need secondary help regardless, Berry could possibly be THE best player in the draft I can’t see the lions passing on him. I’m thrilled with either Suh or Berry at this spot, they really cant miss with either of them.
i agree with you 100 percent kdawg
i just think the lions will go dt with the first pick, i want berry first, mc coy second, im just trying to be logical and as far as the pick goes i dont think we lose either way. this years draft is a good one to have a top five pick. i would love to see berry as our first pick and hope like hell that we can grab mount cody in the second, that would be a best case secenario
I agree Timmy
We would be better suited to pick a DT at the top of round 2 if Suh goes #1…..CLF is right. The depth at DT in this draft is good. However, Suh is a man above all at his position. The rest are secondary and ultimately comparable. My hope would be that one of the 10 “possible” first rounders, that CLF mentioned, would fall to us at pick 34 if we do not get Suh at pick 2.
i would take okung over mccoy...
again following the bpa model…dt is better served in 2nd or 3rd if not suh
I absolutely agree
But it seems unlikely that the Lions will be drafting Okung in the first round, given the fact that they think they have a pro bowl caliber LT already in Backus. That said, I would rather have Okung than Gerald McCoy too.
i just hope the f.o. has the same hierarchy...since no to okung...no to mccoy
there are too many bpa’s above mccoy for him to be our 1st pick
How about drafting Okung and moving Backus to RT
and moving Cherilus in to the Guard position where he belongs because he is too big and slow to play on the ends.
by toled0lions on Jan 20, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
The Coach seems pretty happy with Backus at LT
However, I don’t mind the idea of moving Cherilus to the inside, he is supposed to be a road-grader.
The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Jan 21, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Hooray for the #2 spot
This maybe the best spot in the draft because we cannot lose. STL takes Clausen then we can take Suh or use the spot as trade bate because the dropoff at QB after Bradford is significant. Washington is in the 4th spot but Seattle is in the 6th spot. What does this mean? It means the only way through to the next best QB is through TB or DET for Seattle or anybody else for that matter and the only 1st round trade up last year was for a QB after the #1 was off the board. Does TB want out of #3? I doubt it if they want a shot at Suh or McCoy which leaves DET as the way to the #2 QB and Seattle just happens to have 2 1st rounders. Probably a pipe dream but it could happen. Anyways, it maybe the best spot for trading away especially with the hype that Suh has we may not want his contract where there maybe someone else who doesn’t care. I would also consider trading #2 to Cleveland for Rodgers and their #7 pick. I could probably go on with a ton of trade scenarios but I’m really glad we are at #2 this year because I think we can get two quality starters out of it or maybe one future franchise pro bowler.
MCCOY VS BERRY VS MAYS
MCCOY AND BERRY ARE GREAT PLAYERS BUT WASNST MAYS RATED HIGHTER FOR FEW YEARS IN ROW.
KNOW THE SO CALLED DRAFT PROS NOW HAVE HIM RATED LOWER THEN MCCOY AND BERRY .
WHEN YOU TRY COMPAIRE PLAYERS SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT HOW THE TEAM DID AND HOW THEY WEAR RATED YEARS BEOFRE. .
1RD MCCOY
..2RD MAYS
Mays in round two?
I don’t see that happening. Mays is a beast…LB type body with 4.3 speed. We don’t need someone like him, which is the only reason we are not gonna draft him.
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