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POLL: How confident are you that Lions beat Rams this weekend?

I know the Rams are 2-2 and the Lions are 0-4, but I have a great feeling about this weekend.  Just look at their schedule vs ours so far:

 - The Lions opened with three of four games on the road, against opponents who are a combined 9-6 right now (5-6 not including their games against the Lions).

 - The Rams opened with three of four games at home, against opponents who are a combined 5-11 right now (3-9 not including their games against the Rams).

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Also, look at our QB vs theirs so far this season:

 - Shaun Hill: 97/161 (60.2%), 991 yards (6.2 ypa), 5 TD, 7 INT, 70.2 rating

 - Sam Bradford: 92/158 (58.2%), 944 yards (6.0 ypa), 6 TD, 6 INT, 72.3 rating

Advantage nobody, I would say.  But when you look at the quality of pass defense that Shaun Hill and Sam Bradford have thrown against through four games, you see that, again, Detroit has been up against far tougher competition:

 - Detroit opponent pass defense rankings (by QB rating allowed): #2, #10, #12, #19.  Average QB rating: 76.1

 - St. Louis opponent pass defense rankings (by QB rating allowed): #16, #18, #21, #26.  Average QB rating: 88.5

Shaun Hill has thrown against far tougher pass defenses, through three road games and only one home game, and come up with a cumulative quarterback performance just as good as Sam Bradford, who has been throwing against easier pass defenses with three games in front of a home crowd.

Combine this with the fact that our QB situation may get even better if Stafford gets healthy, and St. Louis isn't sure at this point which QB they need to prepare against, and it wouldn't be surprising to see our passing offense far outperform theirs.

So...how do you like our chances?

Poll
How do you feel about the Lions chances of winning against St. Louis on Sunday?
I'm expecting a blowout. I'll be somewhat shocked if we don't win by a wide margin. We're so much better than they are, we just need the chance to prove it.
210 votes
We'll win a good game. It would be an upset if St. Louis comes away with a victory because we have a more talented team.
924 votes
Toss-up. Maybe we have a slight home-field advantage, but both teams are about as good at this stage in their rebuilding cycles.
551 votes
The Rams will probably win, but Detroit will make tough game for them and play it close, but the Rams are a little bit better right now.
379 votes
WINNING is all that matters when you look at a football team. They've won 2. We've won zero. The Rams know how to win and we don't.
258 votes

2322 votes | Poll has closed

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Toss up, for me....

How can you predict an inconsistant team?

by CLF on Oct 5, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

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by Sean Yuille on Oct 5, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

toss up for me also

The rams have proven they can win. We are at home. Toss up.

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Oct 5, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I say we win a close game

St Louis defense seems like its actually clicking finally with a decent offense but we have the playmakers they are lacking. Calvin, Best, Suh, Delmas, KVB and so forth. They will win us the game IF and only if we can limit penaltys.

GET WELL SOON MATT! We need ya man

by The Profiler on Oct 5, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Hill played St. Louis last year

finished the game with a 104.9 QB rating

by BtotheLT on Oct 5, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

That arguement did not work so well with the Vikings.

by tkiller314 on Oct 6, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say Lions 27-14

The number problem for a rookie quaterback. Is pressure from the front 4. And our front 4 has been causing problems for some pretty good experienced quarterbacks.

if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin

by JCruize on Oct 5, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

remember..

King Kong Suh said no more home losses….

by Lions_Heathen on Oct 5, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep

and I don’t think he was joking. He will do everything in his power to help us to victory… and that man has a lot of power.

by joecool5672 on Oct 5, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

MI vs, MSU

all – this is a bit off topic but i just read that Millen is doing the color for the game on Sat. I just wrote a complaint to ABC and I suggest we get the ball rolling on this. There are tons of games that Millen can do a terrible job of color commentary, the mere fact that ABC thinks it will be funny to send him back to ruin this game is a verbal slap in the face. Im pissed and will watch the game on mute with the sports radio on.

by derbyz81 on Oct 5, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

sportscasters are idiots

I watch all games on mute. I enjoy them so much more.

“They’re going to need to score here to get back in this game.”
“They’ll need a first down here to keep this drive alive.”
“He should catch that ball.”

Really? You need someone to tell you this?

by birdseed on Oct 6, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, I think Bradford is going to carve us up, but I think we can win

This team is built to be in shootouts, and so far we have been in 3 of them. We’re due to come out on top.

by WestsideLionsFan on Oct 5, 2010 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Confidence level is low right now

but we should be able to pull out a win this week,the Lions have to learn from their mistakes so to not keep repeating them.This week will be a true test as to where we stand as a team regardless who dresses up at quarterback.in my opinion..

Cory Smith

by cmonee on Oct 5, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we can win a close one

Rams won’t be easy beats. I’m hoping we can take it to them and win comfortably, but we put in a major effort last week, so I hope we aren’t flat. We need to develop pressure, keep Bradford on his toes, that’s where he makes mistakes.

RIP Robyn Bailey 1961 - 2010. I love you mum.

by Hyperion Ecta on Oct 5, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Tougher than expected

From occasional glances at the Rams this season – it seems as if Bradford excels in the ‘quicker’ game the shorter/easier routes that of Slants and outs – glorified check-downs;

That being said -if we can’t get some quick pressure and press coverage it will be a lot tougher than anticipated —>

Should be a tight/close game that may hinge on 1-2 plays a rushed delivery for a Bradford pick or even the same for Hill

Just hoping the game will be on TV and the Lions pull it out -my pic – Lions win
26-24 w/ the defense pullin out some huge stops in the 4th quarter…

Chees Lions Fans!!

by Igorzba on Oct 5, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

The amount of delusion is absolutely insane.

“It would be an upset if St. Louis comes away with a victory because we have a more talented team.”

Really? If we’re so talented, why are we an oh-fer right now? Shouldn’t our pure talent have gotten us at least one win by now?

Sorry but I’ll be taking the Rams in my pick ‘em. Two guys have taken the Lions every week so far and they’ve eaten four losses.

by john.kmiecik on Oct 6, 2010 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

we won

Some would say we won the Chicago game, me being one of them, but the league gave it to Chicago.

by birdseed on Oct 6, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

This was is easy.... talent of opponent.

The Rams have had a much easier schedule thus far. If Detroit had the Rams sked and vice-versa, I think that the records could easily be reversed and it’s quite likely (especially if Stafford didn’t get hurt), that we’d have a better record.

You can’t just look at 0-4 and 2-2 and say, “yep, the one with the most wins has more talent”, because it isn’t always true. Remember, the Rams also lost to the Cardinals and Raiders… who both look dreadful this year. And not to mention that both wins were at home. Gotta put it into perspective. So by your measure, the Rams and Colts are a wash? How ‘bout the Rams and Chargers? Are they better than the Eagles, Giants, Cowboys or Vikings? See… you can’t be so simple in your analysis.

My take is that pound for pound, Detroit is better. You may regret your pick ’em choice.

by DrewsLions on Oct 6, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who are these 10%ers?!?

Anyone who thinks this is going to be a blow-out either way is seriously deluded. Even if the final score ends up that way, these are two teams in comparable situations and there is no reason to suspect either team to dominate the other. I think the Lions have the better team, but I also think they make too many mistakes to play at the level of their talent. I’m just hoping this is the week it comes together for them.

by MaestroJFK on Oct 6, 2010 4:04 AM EDT reply actions  

blow out

we will thrash them.

we should be at least 2-2 right now and we could easily be 3-1 with Stafford at the helm. Now the Hill has settled in, we’ll probably get Levy, Burleson, and a healthy Best (who looked hurt in the last game). Smith should be getting the cobwebs off and KVB should also get healthy again (also wasn’t himself against the Packers). I think our starters on both sides of the ball are excellent but we are extremely thin—starting our 4th string MLB last week. When these guys get back, we will become the best team in our division.

by x$pcents IV on Oct 6, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Temper your expectations for Stafford. There are a lot of people around here thinking he is the next coming. He has played less than 11 professional games. His presence in the game does not ensure stability or offensive production. He had a couple good games last year, the rest were below average and he did not look to sharp in the Chicago game either.

To be sure, he needs to be out there to get those reps and experience in the pro game but thinking he is solving our win loss record, that is placing far too much on a kid that has not even played a full seasons worth of games.

Lions fans deserve better than being the laughing stock of the NFL. Lets all hope they are heading in the right direction finally.

by joshsun on Oct 6, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know this will drop my credibility rating quite a bit but...

I do believe this will be Detroit’s break out game. You can only contain the potential of this team for so long and with their expectations being so high as to the competition level because of the teams we have already played, when the game finally begins it will be a nice explosion of Lion goodness. For once I feel that Hill has confidence in himself and his players, for once I think that Linehan has the confidence in his offense to make plays all over the place and also that the defense can and will shoulder some of the load if called upon. This is a first where I could give a rats ass if we even win the toss cuz i wanna see my defense get it on. Pieces are coming into place and the hunger is there and the consistancy on special teams both offensively and defensively is there. Harris is punting well (lots of past practice) Hansen has proven that he is able when called upon still. Now all we need is Suh to line up as the fullback on 3rd and short when the game isn’t on the line so I can have some nice video footage of him doing a brandon jacobs/Jerome Bettis train wreck outside the left guard.

by uggugg on Oct 6, 2010 5:50 AM EDT reply actions  

A lot of people feel exactly as you do.....and....

Lets just say if the Lions pull a Lions and play down to the competition as they have done in the past, the grumbling is going to get extra ugly.

Most people were willing to overlook those first 4 games, but not this one.

Once again I’ll say 24-17 Lions. I don’t believe that their going to let STL steal one away again.

by delusional on Oct 6, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did not like the wording of our choices.

I think the home field advantage will be crucial. I don’t think I would say we are more talented than the Rams, I just have not seen them enough [at all] to say we have more talent. I would still say it would be a mild upset if the Rams win.

by NorthLeft12 on Oct 6, 2010 7:01 AM EDT reply actions  

And you base this on a careful evaluation of both rosters?

…or blind faith in the awesomeness that is the Detroit Lions?

by NorthLeft12 on Oct 6, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Suh.

If you can't spell practise write, then dont repond!

by FMFDOC8404 on Oct 6, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is going to be a measuring stick game for the Lions

I don’t want to give away anything I said on the podcast so I will stay relatively vague ;)

Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!

by Evilsmurf on Oct 6, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

It's up to you guys !

You really need to support this team. Ford Field needs to be packed to the rafters and loud as hell. " House of Spears ", it’s time the opposition feels that pain. The 12th man has to step up now and support THE LIONS ! The best way to predict the future is to invent it. Time to go to work and make a winner…

" I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this. " " What are you doin' here? You oughta be out in a convertible bird-doggin' chicks and bangin' beaver. " " Medication time. Medication time. " ( One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - 1975 )

by Keevatron on Oct 6, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Just read Calvin's Blog on the Lions site

The team feels this is a must win. I agree with others. This is the break out game for the Lions. It has to be. I can’t imagine the morale if we don’t win.

I think we win this going away…..

by Spider1 on Oct 6, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

All it takes.....

is one win…once they get that first win I think you will see some even better performances. These guys almost seem at times they are trying too hard at times for that first win. They make stupid mistakes and take stupid penalties at times because it seems like they feel like that one play by them will make the difference. There are still some mental errors that need to be corrected but after their first win dont be too surprised if they play a bit smarter now that they have a win and the pressure for that first win of the season is off.

by beachguy113 on Oct 6, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The lions have had to play 4 of the toughest teams in the NFC so far and the Rams have played mostly patsies. We’ll see how bradford does when he’s getting pressured constantly.

MASN Announcer: "Ususally they have what they call here 'the privilege,' and that's what bobby cox calls it when he let's the veteran guys swing away on 3-0. This is not such a hitter."

Jason Heyward: Single up the middle, ballgame.

by telemakhos on Oct 6, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

SACK FEST

This going to be a Lions Sack Fest, I predict Lions with 9 sacks on rookie Bradford. Lions 32 Rams 10

by sonofalion on Oct 6, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

31-21 Lions

Steven Jackson isn’t 100%, the Rams pass D looks better than it actually is(Ari, Oak, Sea, even Was with Donavon is only a hair past mediocre), Their aren’t 5 men alive that can protect a rookie against our front 4 and also be convinced to move to St. Louis, Rams haven’t won away yet, and Vegas will probably realize this creating a more even spread resulting in fewer minor felonies committed by referees.

I pose a question for those doubting our chances. Other than Steven Jackson. would any of you have a Saint Louis Ram start on your fantasy team unless bye weeks or injuries played a factor?

by Admiral Ackbar on Oct 6, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

What does fantasy football have to do with an actual game?

If you can't spell practise write, then dont repond!

by FMFDOC8404 on Oct 6, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

about as much as analyzing any statistic.

by Admiral Ackbar on Oct 7, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a trap!

I kinda had to say it. I mean, you are admiral ackbar.

MASN Announcer: "Ususally they have what they call here 'the privilege,' and that's what bobby cox calls it when he let's the veteran guys swing away on 3-0. This is not such a hitter."

Jason Heyward: Single up the middle, ballgame.

by telemakhos on Oct 7, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Did you hear that some southern university is trying to adopt Admiral Ackbar as their mascot. Miss State, I think. They used to be the Colonel Rebs or something…?

by Admiral Ackbar on Oct 7, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sack Fest cont...

KVB has a break-out game and gets 3 sacks. House of F____ing Spears gets 2 sacks plus 2 quarterback hurrys resulting in interceptions plus 1 batted ball loose resulting in a fumble recovered by the Lions. Avril is too fast to handle and gets 2 sacks, big Williams is in the backfield ALL DAY and gets 2 sacks. Gun sends blitz after blitz at the rookie and both Peterson and Delmas each get a sack. 11 SACKS TOTAL. Jackson is shut down to just 35 yards on 15 carries. Lions D-line finnally gets some much deserved recongnition.’ Suh is named NFL defensive player of the week.

by sonofalion on Oct 7, 2010 6:45 AM EDT reply actions  

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