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NFL to Change Overtime Rules for Playoff Games?

There has long been a debate about the NFL's overtime system and if games should be determined basically by a coin toss.  Of course, not every overtime game is determined solely by who wins the coin toss (just ask Marty "I will take the wind" Mornhinweg), but the team that gets the ball first certainly seems to have a better chance of winning.  After all, teams only need a field goal to win an overtime game, which is why there is a proposal to change the overtime system for the playoffs.

Under the new system that may be up for a vote at next month's league meetings, playoff games that go into overtime could only be won by the team that gets the ball first if a touchdown is scored on the opening possession.  If a team only kicks a field goal, then the other team gets the ball and has a chance to go down the field and win the game.  If for some reason that team just wants to tie the score back up with a field goal of its own, then play would continue and the winner would be the next team to score.

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Most proposals for a new overtime system in the NFL seem to revolve around a format based on college football's overtime rules because both teams get the ball.  Usually any idea involving the college overtime system includes backing the ball up from the 25-yard line because that is too close.  My ideal system would something along those lines, because I do think starting at the 25-yard line is too close, especially in the NFL.  I would rather have teams start from the 40- or 50-yard line, as that makes a field goal much less of a certainty.

If the NFL were to stick with a variation of its current system, however, then the idea for the playoffs is a step in the right direction.  I can understand the argument against college football's overtime system because it is a whole different game on such a shortened field, but the NFL's current system is much worse because both teams aren't guaranteed to touch the ball.  Yes, I get the attitude that if a team wants the ball it should make a stop, but in a shootout losing the coin toss could very well be the death blow.  Then again, Arizona lost the overtime coin toss against Green Bay in a playoff game that was definitely a shootout and forced a turnover to win the game.  Even so, I think a change is necessary to even things up a bit, especially for playoff games.  While I would still like to see both teams get the ball, forcing the team that gets the ball first to score a touchdown to win would be a big improvement and force coaches to really strategize.

The one issue I have with this latest proposal is that the new overtime rules would only take effect in the playoffs.  Why limit a change that coaches would probably love to gain experience with long before they are in the playoffs?  It's not like overtime games would be extended that much under the newly-proposed format.  Many overtime games under the current system don't end after only one possession, and although that is an argument against a change to the rules, I think any change should be across the entire season, not just the playoffs.  It just doesn't make much sense to only have a different overtime system for the playoffs when regular season games would not be extended much at all.  Sure, there could be more games that don't end after only one possession, but big deal.  A few more minutes of football are more than worth it to make overtime much fairer than it currently is. 

What do you guys think?

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What do you think of the new overtime proposal?
It's a good idea and the NFL should only implement it for playoff games
54 votes
It's a good idea and the NFL should implement it for all games
292 votes
The NFL needs to change its overtime format, but this isn't the way to do it
167 votes
The current overtime format is fine and should be left alone
98 votes

611 votes | Poll has closed

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The best part of this rule

Is how simple it is to state in a rule book……First team to score 6

That’s it. It has many more levels of complexity when you start to analyze it from a strategy perspective and a fairness perspective, but in the end, it is described in one simple phrade without any additional explanation or qualification

First…..Team….To Score…….Six

by HoorayForEverything on Feb 28, 2010 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

Except that it's not "first team to 6" because a team could win with 3

If I understand it correctly (maybe I’m missing something), if the team to start with the ball doesn’t even manage a field goal, then the other team, upon acquiring possession of the ball after a turnover or punt, could then kick a field goal and win with 3 points.

Is that correct?

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by n4ry4 on Feb 28, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

that and if the

1st time got the FG.. then the other team gets to tri but if they fail they lose

by det32 on Feb 28, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Then I think it is stupid

The only good thing about first to 6 was its simplicity. Adding a bunch of clauses makes it stupid.

Like my other post, just kick the ball from the 35 instead of the 30 and problem is solved.

by HoorayForEverything on Feb 28, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

However, I personally believe the solution is the football

I read somewhere (don’t remember) that the statistics work out nicely when the starting field position is back even 10 yards on average.

Let the kickers kick the regular ball in overtime……Much better chance for touchback…..starting from own 20 is statistically (sorry no link) a wash as far as getting a field goal accomplished.

The special ball and starting kickoff line were changed because the NFL wanted fewer touchbacks and better chances for exciting returns……they just need to not apply that philosophy to overtime

by HoorayForEverything on Feb 28, 2010 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

Initially I`ve voted as

“It’s a good idea and the NFL should only implement it for playoff games”. But now I think why not in all games? Won`t hurt competitiveness IMO. It`s irrelevant but I know at least one team sport to recently eschew the sudden death rule in the OT and that is soccer.

by Roustique on Feb 28, 2010 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

I agree

If there’s a fix for a broken system, why only apply the fix in the playoffs?

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by n4ry4 on Feb 28, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Dont Change....

…..if you lose the toss simply stop the other team….You know what you have to do win or lose the toss…….So if you lose just stop them and get the ball back and score your self….Simple as that.

by BennieBladesFan on Feb 28, 2010 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

except that modern NFL rules favor offenses

The problem is that there’s a big advantage being given to a team based on a random coin toss.

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by n4ry4 on Feb 28, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Then win the toss...

…..or win the game in regulation….You stil have the chance to stop the team…thats what you need to do.

by BennieBladesFan on Feb 28, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I read a great proposal for overtime

Have a blind bidding system where the coaches each write down what yard they want to start on and the one closest to their own endzone gets the ball first.

So if the game is a real defensive battle, first coach might put in 40 yard line and the other puts in 45 yard line. The first coach gets the ball first at the 40. If it is an offensive back and forth, they might put in 20 or 15 yard line thinking that they will score regardless of feild position.

by ATL Lion on Feb 28, 2010 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

sounds interesting, but I wonder if that would be unfair

Imagine if two teams are playing each other in the Super Bowl (say, Detroit and Indianapolis).

Suppose that, through the 18 games leading, Indianapolis has been forced into overtime twice.

Suppose that Detroit won every game in a blowout, never having to go into overtime.

Now, Schwartz probably has a big advantage in guessing where Caldwell wants to start, because Caldwell has had to make two different bids this season. Caldwell has no idea where Schwartz wants to start because Schwartz hasn’t had to play in overtime yet.

You’d have an advantage being conferred based on something as random and unrelated as which team played overtime x number of games ago. I’d actually like that less than randomly giving an advantage based on a coin toss (as happens now), but that’s my opinion.

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by n4ry4 on Feb 28, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

but think of the side bets!

and madden games with friends!

also, you can bid 5 yard line and win the ball every time, but you have to drive 95 yards for a score.

by ATL Lion on Feb 28, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

playoff and SB should be a new quter.

btw is the SB set up the same way as the rest games are?? if no one scores its a tie?? b/c that would really blow

by det32 on Feb 28, 2010 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

no, ties are not allowed in the playoffs, only the regular season

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by n4ry4 on Feb 28, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

This is a brilliant proposal

I think it is far to easy, for the team who gets the ball first, to win in sudden death OT…..not just in the playoffs, but also in the regular season. I understand that the original sudden death rule was created in interest of constraining the amount of time it takes to play a full game, but if the regular season record is going to have effect on whether or not a team makes the playoffs, the sudden death rule seems a bit unfair (especially considering the power and accuracy of most NFL level kickers these days). I believe that forcing teams to score a TD to win in OT would make the games more interesting, competitive, and ultimately fair and square.

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by KDawg on Feb 28, 2010 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

I like it but..

I think that it should be each team gets the ball at least once, regardless of who scores first and if it’s a TD or not. This way each team gets to use special teams (during the return) offense, and defense. I think this is the most fair way, given that each team has different strengths and weaknesses.

by WestsideLionsFan on Feb 28, 2010 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

I'd rather they just change the rule from

First to score to: you can’t kick a FG to win.

That way, the teams gotta go for it on 4th down, but you still can have defensive score to win like Arizona.

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by Transplanted on Feb 28, 2010 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

I suppose it's a question of time then

What if neither team can’t score for a while? On the whole though, I agree. First TD wins.

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by Hyperion Ecta on Feb 28, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds alright to me

As long as they work out any kinks.

The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.

by Hyperion Ecta on Feb 28, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

Collin cowherd said it best

the overtime now is really what the players and coaches who know what they are talking about want. Its fast. Teams that go to overtime lose like 65% of the following games. beacuse they get more beat up and more tired. it just sucks for the fans. But, it makes alot of sense. if you wann be successful don’t play a whole period and get your team killed.

by Waitingfortheroar on Feb 28, 2010 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

My overtime suggestion

Keep the format the same. But, instead of giving a team the advantage of choosing to start with the ball based on a coin toss, let teams earn that advantage in regulation time.

The team that gets to start in overtime is:

1. The team with more touchdowns in regulation (e.g. if they’re tied 21-21 with one team having 3 TD’s and the other team having 7 FG’s, the team with the TD’s gets the ball to start in OT)

2. If the teams have the same number of touchdowns (which will be pretty common since the score is tied), give OT possession to the team that scored the first touchdown in regulation.

3. If neither team scored a touchdown in regulation, give OT possession to the first team to score points.

4. If neither team scored, it’s 0-0 after 4 quarters, then do a coin toss.

This way, you preserve the traditional short sudden death overtime, so the players don’t get beat up more, but you aren’t giving teams an advantage from a random coin toss.

You’re giving teams an advantage for doing what they’re trying to do all along: score touchdowns early and often.

Maybe it will even force teams to be a little bit more bold and go for touchdowns in situations when they are considering a long FG on 4th-and-2.

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by n4ry4 on Mar 1, 2010 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

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