Rumors Swirl Around Antonio Cromartie, Pacman Jones
by Sean Yuille on Feb 28, 2010 6:45 PM EST
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Today word leaked out by way of The San Diego Union-Tribune's Kevin Acee that the Lions may be on the verge of acquiring Chargers cornerback Antonio Cromartie. Acee posted the following about the possibility on Twitter earlier today:
Not a done deal, but I'm hearing Cromartie could be a Lion soon. Regardless, Cro has almost certainly played his last game for Chargers
The Free Press later confirmed that the Lions have been in contact with the Chargers about putting together a deal for Cromartie, who is on his way out of San Diego, as Acee said in the quote above.
A deal for a cornerback certainly makes sense considering how big of a need the Lions have at that position. The one thing that concerns me about a potential deal is what the Lions would have to give up to acquire Cromartie. He will probably just be released if no trade happens, although then the chances of him ending up in Detroit are very slim. That is the main reason why the Lions would actually trade for him, and in this scenario it seems like draft picks are probably what San Diego would receive in return for Cromartie. Just how many or how valuable those draft picks are remains to be seen, but Tom Kowalski speculates that the Lions could acquire him for one of their fifth-round selections. If that ends up happening I would be ecstatic, because I don't want the Lions to give up too much for a player like Cromartie even though he would be an upgrade compared to what corners are currently on the roster.
The other hot rumor developing from the NFL Combine has to do with Pacman Jones, who played for Jim Schwartz in Tennessee. According to Tom Kowalski, these rumors had to do with Schwartz "trying to reach out" to Jones, but it looks like they were nothing more than BS created to give Pacman some much needed buzz with a private workout coming up on March 19. Although I would be for adding a player of Pacman Jones' caliber to the Lions, he is just too much of a liability character-wise in my mind for the Lions to even waste their time.
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I like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DRAFT SUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jack of all trades-Master of None.....
by Yardpenalty.com on Feb 28, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
What about Antrelle Rolle with Delmas as SS?
Jack of all trades-Master of None.....
by Yardpenalty.com on Feb 28, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
less likely to happen
The beginning of the end of the misery
by Latif Masud on Feb 28, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
pac man must not know about the law changes for detroit strip clubs...
5th for cromartie! Pull the trigger mayhew! Please.
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by DrewMoney$$$ on Feb 28, 2010 6:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't belive Cro will be released if he is not traded
he is only due to make $1.25 mil next season so it would make more since to keep him and not let him play for another team.
My guess is that he will cost the lions 3rd round pick.
there not very happy with his lack of tackling.. he has been on the block since the playoffs and the lions are the 1st
to offer any thing( at lest that got attention from it) so i cant see it being a 3rd.. esple since we could draft a CB of our own with that pick and have more up side
Titans and Falcons have also been connected to trade talks for Cro
The Chargers are more unhappy with Cro’s off the field issues than his lack of tackling skills. There have been rumors of him getting traded since last off-season. I don’t believe they will release him though, it would be better to have him sit on the bench then sign with another AFC west team.
I agree the one year left is a killer
which makes me wonder why the Lions are interested. Cro did not have a bad year last year, he missed a couple of tackles against the Jets but his coverage was solid all season. 08 was his down year.
the point of offseason is to make the team better right now
draft is to make the team better in the long run
adding cromartie for a measly 5th rounder would make a huge impact on our DEF
The beginning of the end of the misery
who is better
a rookie pickup in the draft (3rd to 5th) rounder or Cro?
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
He might be worth a 3rd round pick...
…but he won’t be traded for one. Case in point: Randy Moss was traded to New England for a 4th rounder. A 4th / 5th round pick sounds about right; Cromartie is a prior Pro Bowl player but he hasn’t lived up to that billing as of late.
I guess it really all depends on if other teams are interested or not.
Moss was older and was perceived to be past his prime when the pats traded for him. Cro is 25 and is a very good cover corner. His off-field issues are what is driving this trade. I guess time will tell and we will see what the Bolts end up getting for him.
Good points
If there’s alot of interest then the price could easily be driven up. Personally, I wouldn’t want the Lions to give anything more than their 4th rounder (98th overall selection). He’d look great in the Honolulu Blue & Silver if this trade goes through, though!
A 5th for Cro....I am on board with this...
This would be an awesome trade
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
Even at the 4th round
This would be one of the best trades I’ve ever seen for our Lions. Last years trade to Seatle was the best one I have seen in over 2 decades. If this happens it would possibly be even better than that cause of his age. Please let this be not just a bunch of scuttle butt!
wow look what happens when we get a REAL GM.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
cromartie for a 5th
we can thank Aj smith and Jerry Jones personally for helping repair the damage millen created. pacman ugh please don’t ever say that name again. I keep hear that wha wha wha when the ghost catches him. lol
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This would be an amazing stroke of fortune.....
If the Lions were to get Antonio Cromartie for a 5th round pick……in fact, it may change everything about how we draft in April, if it happens.
Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!
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Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Feb 28, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
As much as I like K. Wilson
If we get cromartie for a 5th we should prob take a RB, DE, or a Guard at 34
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by CapitolLions on Feb 28, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Why not OT or C? We could use a RT (move Cherilus inside) who kicks to LT in a year or a C. Schwartz keeps talking about being bigger up front and Raiola is just too small.
If we take Suh I want a OT, OG, C, DE, or CB taken in round 2. I think there are enough good RB in FA that we can sign (Jones). Sadly, Detroit also needs a WR to help Calvin with some pressure.
I think Suh, then OL, then DE, then CB makes sense since so many pro-bowl CBs get picked after round 4. Same at WR.
They don't draft for position
They draft for talent. If the BPA each time we pick happens to be a 1.DT (suh/mccoy), 2.RB, 3.WR, 4.OT, 5a.S, 5b.G, 6.DE then they will draft DT, RB, WR, OT, S, G, DE
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Cromartie for a 5th
If he’s for the 5th then pull the trigger.
isn't it
a player and a 5th? if so no. 5th straight up? yes. even though this guy is not a number 1 or 2 corner in my opinion. I wish people watched him play instead of just remembering 3 years ago. Im just saying he won’t be verry good because he can’t cover.
by Waitingfortheroar on Feb 28, 2010 8:44 PM EST reply actions
no he can't
Ive watched him play. he play 10 yards off and gives a cussion the half heartedly tackles the guy. he is just lanky and fast. thats it.
by Waitingfortheroar on Feb 28, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
That
Is more because of the style of d SD runs. He has openly criticizes the fact that the started running too much zone coverage. The year he had 11 picks or whatever it was they played a ton of man coverage where he was able to play closer to the line and get in the WR face.
by severs28 on Feb 28, 2010 9:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
or it was because SHawn Merrimen
was on steroids and could not be blocked. they had the best pass rush in the gem. you would have to watch him play not just remember hightlights. he just isn’t that good.
by Waitingfortheroar on Feb 28, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
and they ran zone because they didn't have the same pass rush
so they had to soft cover more. and he sucked at it.
by Waitingfortheroar on Feb 28, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
if its just a 5th im all in
but, they had a great pass rush when he had 10 picks man. infact thats why they were contenders. good run game great pass rush.
by Waitingfortheroar on Feb 28, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Actually
They changed defensive philosophy after Wade Phillips left. That is when they switched to zone coverage, because of a coordinator change.
yeah
but the year he had 10 picks they blitzed a ton. also zone blitzed a ton.
by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 1, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'd give a 4th rounder for Cromartie!
so a 5th rounder would be a steal. There is a lot of talent out there. We HAVE to capitalize, and capitalize right.
GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!
5th would be great
The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
Bring in both Cromartie and Pacman
I say make the deal for Cromartie and also give Pacman a try as well.
A one or two year deal for an in-shape Pacman may prove worthwhile. You know you can get him at a bargain price also. Maybe he has a stellar year.?
you don't worry at all
about character issues with our young cast?
by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 1, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Make it no money guaranteed
He has a relationship with the Schwartz which is good and if he acts up at all you can just cut him loose.
Who is your agent I want his info
lol thats a tought sell. You gotta get ruthless to get that deal. Sick the Schwartz on em!
by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 1, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
No ! We don't need the negative attitude.
I hate giving up draft picks for a trade. More than likely, the incoming player doesn’t want to be here. Sadly, our losing reputation doesn’t help. I prefer going after free agents who might want to come here and for sure cultivate the draft prospects into our system of thinking and play.
5th rounder for Cro is a steal
but I heard it may cost up to a 2nd rounder to get him in reality. Bidding war with ATL. They lost another RB too so that may be part of some deal that the Lions can’t match.
I can see...
…the Lions offering the 5th, San Diego looking for a 3rd, and them settling on a 4th rounder. In all likelihood this is still a great deal even in spite of an expiring contract. A 4th rounder is far less likely to contribute as much as Cromartie would…let alone at such a position of need.
"Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer." -Mark Twain
Normally I would agree
And I DO agree that he is not worth more than a 4th rounder…….
However, what if that 4th round pick was our new starting left guard?
Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!
Throw in Kevin Smith
Cromartie is definetly needed. 5th rnder for an impact player= robbery with no gun, give it up.
lions should trade for cromartle and give up maurice morris and 5rd pick this yeardraft and say if cromartle macks the pro bowl then you give chargers a 4rd pick in next year draft . if he not apro bowl player this year then it would be a 5rd in next year draft.
final roster are not determined yet
get Pacman.. let him earn it.. if not he’s dropped by the 53 roster .. simple.. i’d give him a shot.. he truly has one more chance
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
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