Chargers Want Maurice Morris and a Draft Pick?
After news broke that the Lions were in talks with the Chargers about a possible trade that would send Antonio Cromartie to Detroit, many of you speculated that Maurice Morris would probably be involved in any deal that happens. After all, the Chargers have already released LaDainian Tomlinson and are going to let Darren Sproles become a free agent, so they are in desperate need of adding depth to the running back position.
When it was originally reported that Cromartie was on the trade block a week or so ago, I wrote off the Lions' chances of landing him simply because San Diego was hoping to get a running back in return for the cornerback. I figured there weren't any backs on the Lions' roster that San Diego would be interested in because Kevin Smith is injured, but as John Niyo reports, the Chargers very well may want to acquire Morris.
The Lions have discussed a potential trade with the San Diego Chargers involving cornerback Antonio Cromartie, the News has confirmed. But the Chargers' asking price for Cromartie may include running back Maurice Morris, in addition to a fourth or fifth-round draft pick, a league source said.
Looking at this from the Lions' point of view, Detroit is already in the market for a running back. With Kevin Smith's status for 2010 uncertain, the expectation, at least by me, is for the Lions to sign a veteran back when free agency opens or to pick up a back in the draft in April. Adding a starting-caliber back ensures that if Smith isn't ready to go this September or beyond, the Lions will have a backup plan. And if Smith is ready to go in September, the Lions will have a pretty good stable of backs.
I guess what a trade involving Maurice Morris would come down to is where he fits into the Lions' plans both with or without a healthy Kevin Smith. Last season I thought Morris did a pretty good job of filling in for Smith, but would he be able to shoulder the load of being the starting running back for an extended period of time if Smith is unable to return early on in the season? That may not be necessary if Detroit plans on signing someone like Chester Taylor or drafting a running back, allowing Morris and the new guy to split the carries until Smith does return. Once that happens the Lions would be set at running back and have plenty of depth in case another injury happens.
If the Lions were to get rid of Morris, it would be a risky move. Yes, it would be nice to be able to upgrade the secondary, but suddenly the only healthy running back on the roster who played last year is Aaron Brown. Brown is not an every-down back, making the need to sign or draft someone even bigger than it is now. I suppose if the Lions already plan on doing that then Morris is expendable in a sense, but there would still be a need to add some depth to the running back position even after bringing in someone to fill in for Smith or replace Morris.
Let's say Morris is traded and the Lions sign Chester Taylor, for example. Although the Lions could bank on Smith being healthy in time for the 2010 season, if he's not then suddenly you are one injury to Taylor away from Aaron Brown having to step in as the starter, which no offense to Brown, just doesn't sound like a very good idea. Perhaps the Lions are confident enough that Smith will be healthy in time for next season that Morris could be traded, or they are just going to gamble and pick up extra depth along the way no matter what. If the plan all along was to add another running back, then trading Morris would simply change the need to add a couple running backs. Is it possible to add a player like Chester Taylor and pick up a decent back to replace Morris as well? Definitely. And if that means upgrading the secondary requires trading Morris, I think it would be worth it.
Quickly looking at this from the Chargers' perspective, I can understand why they would want to trade for Morris. At first I was confused strictly because Morris doesn't seem like a starter, but this would be a move to add depth to the running back position for San Diego. I would be willing to bet they will draft a running back pretty early on no matter what, so a move to bring in a veteran like Morris would give them depth behind that young running back. Beyond that, if they are going to get rid of Cromartie anyways, I'm sure their thinking if that they might as well get a player that upgrades depth in exchange for him.
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Id be ok with this....
….I like Morris but we are going to sign a RB anyway or draft one plus we have Brown…..Id even be ok with the 4th rounder but id rather have it be one of the 5ths
+1
Yes please.
I like Mo, but I figured we were going to grab a FA guy this year anyway. If we can turn Mo into a starting CB that doesn’t shit the bed everytime the ball is thrown his way, then I say wrap him up with a 5th and send him to the left coast.
Do it
To me, running backs are easily replaceable (call me Mike Shanahan). Replaceable enough that you could trade Morris, sign Taylor and draft someone in any of the three middle rounds and call it good.
Maybe I’m too far in the tank for Cromartie.
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I'd be hesitant
And it would depend on which RB we can sign. Morris is the only healthy proven back on our team. Brown is young and has shown glimpses of talent, but hasn’t proven he can handle a full load. Getting rid of Morris would force Detroit to sign a good free agent RB. If they can do that, I’d be open to the trade. But it’s pretty risky if you ask me. Especially since Cromartie has been underachieving as of late.
I would be OK with a Thomas Jones
If we can’t get Taylor. T.Jones would be good for a starter for a year, but we would have to pay the guy. I think he only has a year or two in the tank, but that is all we need him for.
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This guy gets no love! He’s an animal who runs angry! I hope the Lions go after him!
by Kirt-LionFaninGR! on Mar 1, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
go after julius too?
then we’d be jonesing.
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I agree
The risk involved is that you could strike out on the free agent market and not be able to bring in a Chester Taylor. Since trades can’t be made until Friday, though, I suppose the Lions could wait to pull the trigger on a trade involving Morris until they do sign someone like Taylor.
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As long as the contract isnt too big...
….Id be happy with jones…..I really think we will get a veteran guy becasue I think Aaron Brown will be more carries this year as well as Amith so Jones age wont be as big a deturant
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 1, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Agreed Mr. Yuille
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with so many
rookie and FA RB’s available and the likelyhood of Cromartie adapting to our system (it is more his style) it seems like it may work…
(it’s risky yes but we get a vet CB and we can get a pretty good RB either draft or free agency).. I would say yes! (I’m worried about his play but why not with so many RB’s available – if he performs to Pro Bowl level then we get a steal and he is in his final contract year? so he wants to get paid.. but then we released Leigh Bodden… hell I don’t know)
Here’s another angle …. at the 5th round will there be a better CB available for the Lions to pick up when compared to Cromartie?… is Cromartie not playing well because of the Chargers system? will he play better being in new surrounding as a true #1 CB?… or is it a demotion going from the Chargers to Detroit?… how will he respond? Will he rise up being “THE MAN” in the backfield… or will he go through the motions….
WE WILL KNOW within the next few days on what the Lions will do!…this is where the Lions brass have to know what they are getting into – paternity suits and the answers to these questions above….. this may be the 2nd most important trade in Mayhew’s career ..truly do or die what happens here will define the new Lions brass and coaching staff… if this deal works with the potential strong draft with defensive improvement … 8-8 and beyond could happen much sooner instead of 5-11 or 6-10… HUGE DEAL if it happens
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
I dont think this is a big deal
Yes, its taking a risk, but the payout is huge IMO. Just a couple of years ago, Cromartie was a bona-fide elite corner. He was the 19th pick in the draft, and he is still young. If we can get him for as little as a backup runningback + a 5th rounder, then we should do it.
Besides, the backup runningback market is pretty deep this year. I’m okay even if we don’t land chester taylor. I’d be fine with Larry Johnson or Mike Bell getting carries
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I think the missing element here is how good is Cromartie?
The Chargers don’t think too much about him and it does not sound like there is too much other interest. I would understand if Detroit made this trade but there is a fair bit of risk here. May end up with another worthless CB and no RB to boot and also losing a fifth round pick. This year a fifth round pick might be worth something too.
I tell ya how good he is....
…..hes better then what we got now….and if it doesnt work out hes a fa after the year and we didnt have to give up to much for the shot at his huge upside potential….Plus I also think he needs a change of scenery…Not that id want to leave SD….But sometimes it motivates guys more when iteam trades them away or releases them
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 1, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I believe he played with Ernie Sims at FSU
And Mayhew was a DB at FSU as well.
Regardless, I imagine Schwartz/Mayhew, who are value and talent obsessed individuals , will only do this if they believe in Cromoartie in the first place.
by HoorayForEverything on Mar 1, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I knew Mayhew played ball in the NFL.......he was a CB
Mayhew played 8 years at CB in the NFL, for the Redskins and Buccaneers. He was a starting CB for the Redskins in the Super Bowl. He’s got a Super Bowl ring as a player. I would think that he understands firsthand the importance of elite DB’s to a defense, especially this defense.
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(mind you, not saying that Cromartie is elite).......
……..was referring to Mayhew knowing an elite DB when he has an opportunity to get one, like in the draft (Berry and Wilson).
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Matt Millien was a raiders offensive lineman
I guess thats the diffrence
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I'm pretty sure Millen was a Linebacker
by HoorayForEverything on Mar 1, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Wikipedia:
During his NFL career, he was selected to play in one Pro Bowl (in 1988). Millen finished his 12 NFL seasons with 11 sacks and 9 interceptions, which he returned for 132 yards, and 8 fumble recoveries. He also returned 7 kickoffs for 72 yards.
You guys are kiiding right????
Yes Millen was a LB. He has 5 Super Bowl rings. 49ers, Raiders and the Skins.
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He has a lot of legal issues
Something like 7 kids in 5 states. Plus, they are one of those teams that are loaded at CB, so they can afford to let him go
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ABSOLUTELY!! It is the most important question (explained above)
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If Schwartz and mayhew think he can contribute at a high level again, I would make this trade.
But not if the price is a fourth round pick.
I'd trade morris
there are so many backs out there right now that can fill in for a year or 2…..Tomlinson, sproles, chester taylor, thomas jones, even TJ Duckett who Maurice Morris kind of reminds me of…also pick up T.O. he would be a great #2 receiver!
Duckett
Runs like Morris carrying Aaron Brown on his back.
Just say no to TJ Duckett
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someone said this in the freep comment had th shere it
Bob Barker just called. He said to remember to have your cornerback spayed or neutered.
no
according to MLive the Lions have decided to go in a different direction from Cromartie. Not physical enough. At the combine, the Wilson CB from Boise benched more reps than Gerald McCoy. Get him! Run support. Physical. Now back to my ’self physical and self prostate exam. OHH,uhhh, ahhhhhhhh.
duckett
he is a good change of pace to smith and brown though…the guy can blast up the middle for 3.5 yards if a brick wall was put in front of him.
Felton can get 3.5 and hes 8 years younger, faster, and already on the roster lol
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They will draft or sign one if they do this deal, and thats great...
just not duckett lol
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Sean....
You said that if we did this and signed chester taylor, we would be only one injury away from brown being the starter…
How many teams in the NFL really have THREE RB’s that they really want to start?
Cowvboys……Maybe Tennessee….Tampa Bay..
Not many.. I mean, the Jets just cut Jones…so they have Shonn Green and an injured Washington.
You can’t expect to carry 3 solid RBs…its huge luxury and the Lions cant afford to worry about it right now I don’t think.
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Well if Smith is injured at the start of the year
Then chances are he will be on the PUP, allowing the Lions to sign someone else. If he’s not injured, then we would have him an Taylor or whoever.
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yea and maybe tampa bay
although I am not sure of the contract status on cadillac
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This is a no brainer to me
Trade Morris and a 5th rounder
Draft and sign a running back, I have a strong feeling Larry Johnson, Chester Taylor and Tomas Jones won’t get great offers from other teams because of their age. We can offer a starting job also.. Do it get it done……..
Note: this is specualtion
John Nayo says it MAY be want the Chargers want.. It is not a final offer… more like something to discuss like we are doing here
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make the trade, then draft Jahvid Best at #34
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I was thinking the same thing. Best seems like he would be a great fit for us.
A little risky due to the concussion history, but we need an explosive guy like this.
You realize that this will totally piss off the legion of Kyle Wilson fans we have here on POD.
not after that combine..
I think Tate will be a 3rd pick. I liked Montario Hardesty’s workout too. But like Tate he just might have raised is Draft stock to the 3rd as well.
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You realize that this will totally piss off the legion of Kyle Wilson fans we have here on POD.
When they took Delmas over Maualuga, we got over it within a few months.
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Yeah this is a good deal for the Lions
Cro might be a headache off the field sometimes, but he is surely a well above average cover corner still.
I just dont know enough about Morris. What I was able to figure out is he’s under contract for 2010 and 2011 for around 1.5mil. That part is nice, if this guy can catch the ball well; and has a little upside as a low mileage vet I have no problem with this deal. Obviously I would like it to include the Lions high fourth not mid 5th.
What I do want to know is if this guy plays STs, and how he is catching and blocking?
mo morris and a 5th
I’d do it. Hey Mo is a servicibale back but we could be setup in a oppertunity to upgrade bot positions. We get a Antonion a spot we have a desperate need and there are alot of backs vis FA or the Draft we can replace him with.
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It might work...
If we can get another RB like Taylor or Jones… With a starting CB from San Diego we will be able to spend our 2nd or 3rd round draft on someone for the O line.
Antonio Cromartie has seven children living in five states, and has been named in at least five paternity suits in the past two years.
HMMMMMM.. hell of a guy!
If that's true then that's a major flag for me
I don’t know what it is but guys like that really are just plain dumb, and don’t usually pan out very long in the NFL or any major sports. Also he will be looking for top flight money to support those kids and child payments. FLAG, FLAG, FLAG.
If that's the price...then I'd take it
Maybe we need to take a chance.
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Morris and 4th round pick? That just sounds like a steal to me for some reason.
Don't forget Sean......
We do have Jerome Felton too…..and he COULD play half back if need be. I am totally on board with Morris and our second 5th rounder for Cromartie. That sounds like a steal to me, as long as Cromartie doesn’t play like Leigh Bodden did when he was here.
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Well if we do the deal....
were are drafting a RB in this draft. And maybe with a high pick. Do remember that Morris is in his 30’s. But, with the draft pick we use to get a RB. Could we get a more talented CB at that same spot?
I think it is a risky move. But I say go for it.
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