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Lions Trade for Quarterback Shaun Hill

The Lions have taken care of their need for a backup quarterback by reportedly trading for 49ers signal-caller Shaun Hill.  San Francisco recently signed David Carr, making Hill expendable, and the Lions wasted little time in making a move to add him by sending a seventh-round pick in 2011 to the 49ers.

Hill has spent the last four seasons of his career in San Francisco.  In 2006, he didn't appear in any games, but in 2007, he made two starts and played in three contests.  Hill got substantially more playing time in the last two seasons, making a total of 14 starts and playing in a total of 15 games.  His numbers weren't out of this world with San Francisco, but they were definitely respectable and certainly more than okay for somebody who will be a backup in Detroit.

Before playing for the 49ers, Hill was a member of the Minnesota Vikings from 2002-05.  He only appeared in one game during that time, but Scott Linehan served as his offensive coordinator for all but one of those seasons, so there is some familiarity there.

My initial reaction to this move is very positive.  For only a seventh-rounder in 2011 (Detroit has two of them because of the Kevin O'Connell deal with the Jets), the Lions have taken care of the need they have at quarterback.  We all knew Daunte Culpepper probably wasn't going to return unless the Lions really got desperate, so there was a void behind Matthew Stafford.  By adding Hill, the Lions can worry about other positions and just let he and Drew Stanton compete to be Stafford's backup.  Chances are Hill will win that job, and if Stafford were to go down with an injury, Hill certainly seems like someone who can replace him and perform well enough that the Lions will actually have a chance to win.

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Love this trade....

…..Considering we had two 7th rounders next year anyway becasue of the Kevin OConnell trade and it gives us a nice solid backup qb……Mayhew is da man.

by BennieBladesFan on Mar 14, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Great value!

Welcome to Detroit, Shaun!

GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!

by Twon82 on Mar 14, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

amazing

this guy gets a ton out of limited abillity. Mayhew keep swingin that bat and getting us quallity for garbage. LOVE IT!

I have a 9" personality

by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 15, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

A very nice pick up by Mayhew.

Can’t help but be impressed with the moves this guy makes.

by NorthLeft12 on Mar 14, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Dont know what I like more...

That basically we got Shaun Hill for Kevin O’Connell or that it means that Culpepper will be forced to retire !! No one will want him.

by Joey-P on Mar 14, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Cant wait to hear from the DS fan club

on how we should give Drew a fair shot at #2.

by ABN_MI_fan on Mar 14, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Shaun 'Not Yet Over The' Hill

will be our backup….hope i’m wrong, but looks like stanton has his work cut out for him. good move, mayhem.

by DR GRUBE on Mar 14, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Good move

For the value, which was next to nothing, we get a guy with starting experience. If Stafford goes down in week 1, we’re basically screwed, but let’s all hope that’s not the case. I may have liked a veteran guy with past successes (a la Delhomme or Pennington) more than someone with slight to moderate success, but I think he’ll serve his purpose well.

BTW… I’m not closing the door on Stanton being a capable #2 just yet.

by DrewsLions on Mar 14, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I think if Stafford goes down...

…Hill could keep it reasonable, unlike Culpepper or Stanton.

GO LIONS! RESTORE THE ROAR!

by Twon82 on Mar 14, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

neither am i

but he def has his work cut out for him….in other mildly surprising news, quinn’s been traded to the bronocos for RB Peyton Hillis, a 2011 sixth-round draft pick and a conditional 2012 draft pick.

by DR GRUBE on Mar 14, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

mayhem

we get the better trade only a 7 for hill and denver gave up a fb and 2 picks and i thinks hills better haha good job mayhem

by sandvet on Mar 14, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats a VERY good trade for Clev

I like Peyton Hillis and Quinn was gonna be 3rd stringer

by ralphgoblue on Mar 14, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Contract-

What kind of money are they paying Hill that the 49ers would give him away for a 7th round pick??? Nice move M n M!

by Kirt-LionFaninGR! on Mar 14, 2010 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Great move

We got him for very cheap and Hill at least will provide us with some decent play if Stafford were to go down with injury. Great trade.

The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.

by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 14, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the move

Hill is better than Culpepper at this point, and if Drew Stanton ever does develop then Hill can be a solid #3. We lost nothing, and gained solid depth.

Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!

by KDawg on Mar 14, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

2nd that Emotion

 What are the chances of a 7th round pick sticking in the NFL? The trade makes sense.

by Maxha on Mar 15, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that was our only seventh rounder

Detroit gave the 2nd pick of the 7th to Buffalo for Ko Simpson
Detroit received the 7th pick of the 7th round for Corey Williams and then traded it to San Fran.

The O’Connell 7th is for next year

by Kalzilla on Mar 14, 2010 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

With that said

Good move. Hill is much better than any free agent QB we could have signed, and the seventh rounder was a good price

by Kalzilla on Mar 14, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should read better

In my defense, I’m eating peanut butter on crackers. that shit gets everywhere

by Kalzilla on Mar 14, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better

Better than shit on crackers. None of my ex-wives could cook.

by dylan415 on Mar 14, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

man this has been

a pretty active day, let alone free agent season:

foote is set to rejoin the steelers per the det news

http://detnews.com/article/20100314/SPORTS0101/3140329/1126/Ex-Lion-Larry-Foote-set-to-rejoin-Steelers

by DR GRUBE on Mar 14, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I love the trade

but, I wonder if this free’s up $$$ for the 9ers to sign Chester Pitts?

by FMFDOC8404 on Mar 14, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

the football gods are smiling on us.

I could not me more impressed with our front office. Every single move this offseason has looked competant and mostly in our favor. Mayhew is the man. And the draft hasn’t even happened yet! This is an upgrade over culpepper and with the way stafford plays its more then likly that we see shaun hill start a game this season.

I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03

by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 14, 2010 8:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

consider me drunk

And let me enjoy it until the first game. The cornbread is hot and I’m hungry.

I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03

by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 15, 2010 12:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Moneyball Mayhew

Great maneuver. Pick up O’Connell on waivers, trade him for a pick that leads to getting a young qb with starting experience AND who already has a year in our offensive system. Not sure of the contract he carries, but if we can keep him at a reasonable rate he could be our clipboard carrier for a long time. And with a qb who plays like Favre but doesn’t seem to possess his cyborg endoskeleton that is going to be essential.

by ajmojo on Mar 14, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

hi I’m from ninersnation

his contract is really cheap. There was actually talk of him being forced to sit around as a 4th qb because his contract was so cheap.

He’s all that you can ask from a backup. He won’t lose you any games, but he probably won’t win you any either. he’s a smart player and a positive influence in the locker room. you guys got a good deal here.

by hellaninersfan on Mar 15, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

well maybe not

quite so young (for some reason I thought he was a little younger than 30). Still could carry the clipboard for good number of years.

by ajmojo on Mar 14, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

QB Hill

I am pissed, that Mayhew and others involved made this move. Are they kidding themselves? What can he do for us that he hasn’t done for Frisco? He’s been in the league, how long…..? Pissed………….

by detroitfanincali on Mar 14, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

he is a back up. And a descent one at that. Relax.

if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin

by JCruize on Mar 14, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a 7th witch we had 2 of in 2011.. not that big of a deal

could we have gotten him whe they cut him?? maybe but is what it is

by det32 on Mar 14, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy has 10 wins-

Was Mitchell the last Lions QB to have 10 wins? C Peppa did in Minnesota, but seriously who was the last Lion to win 10 games? It pisses you off the Lions trade a 7th round pick for a back up QB. I would hate to see someone cut you off when they drive! GOOD MOVE MAYHEW! Another bargain another upgraded position. Now don’t waste a pick on a QB in the draft.

by Kirt-LionFaninGR! on Mar 14, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am guessing Jeff Garcia, or at least he should have with his play at QB.

by tkiller314 on Mar 14, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kitna

won 3 games in 2006
won 7 games in 2007

Hey that's a timeout, I can play right? yeah, get me--get the F-- Help me up...I can throw the ball if you need me to throw the ball...

by n4ry4 on Mar 15, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure...

why would we want a qb who is 30 years old, has a 10-6 record as a starter, and cost us a pick that at best would be a practice squad player? Last years th rounder (Murtha) was on our practice squad and got poached by the Dolphins.

In hindsight, the only thing better than this move would have been to trade murtha or last years 6th for him.

Kepp rooting for the Lions in cali, and we will get to the promise land in 3 years!

Just give me 25 guys on the last year of their contracts; I'll win a pennant every year....Sparky Anderson

by footstock on Mar 14, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anytime ...

 You can trade a 7th round pick and plug a hole with someone who has actually played and whose name doesn’t rhyme with Dulpepper or Mharles Bogers you’ve done a fine job.

by Beerhero on Mar 14, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Shaun Hill

Hey guys, it’s Fooch from Niners Nation. Even if Hill does nothing for the Lions, he’ll be a great presence in the locker room. He’s not the most talented guy, but he gets a lot out of what he’s got. Just for the heck of it, here’s a picture I took of him at 49ers traning camp last summer. For some reason this absolutely cracks me up.

by David Fucillo (Fooch) on Mar 14, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I want a shirt like that

Only mine would say “100% Millen Free”

That is an Awesome picture Thank you!

by Beerhero on Mar 14, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

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by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 15, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

awesome move

great addition…..very happy. Mayhew & co. continue to impress

by Angry Johnny on Mar 14, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Solid Move

Look the way the Lions offensive line is, and the way Stafford takes risks with his body to make a play, you can bet that Hill will be seeing some starting time in Detroit. With that said he is a legitimate QB in the league and his 30 year age should not scare you. Many QBs play into their mid 30’s so we will get at least a few years service out of him while we find out if Stafford can prevent retiring from concussions in his 2nd season. I also think they need to put a wildcat set in for Drew, even if it only has 5 plays it is easily worth while. All you really need is and option pitch, a short pass, a deep pass, a middle run and some sort of gadget play. That way we could bring in Drew if needed just for a quarter until we can get Gruden in on a flight to play QB for us. He might have to play without pads but that should help his 40 time. If Gruden is not available we can always call on Rich Eisen or one of the booth announcers. After all I am pretty sure they would be an upgrade of Crypepper.

by Evilsmurf on Mar 15, 2010 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Can you elaborate a bit?

because I can not form a correlation here……..at this point i am assuming sarcasm?

Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!

by KDawg on Mar 15, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a Niner fan out in the Bay Area, but the Lions are my 2nd fav team.

It’s a great deal for the Lions. The Niners tipped their hand by already signing Carr. Alex Smith will still be around for at least another year and Nate Davis is the niners little pet project they want to bring along slowly.
So all teams knew Hill would be gone soon, if not traded he would have gotten released. So the Lions just had to offer a 7th round pick to make sure they got him. That way they didn’t have to worry about competition or bidding up more against another team in free agency if released.

Value wise he is better than a 7th but Niners showed their hand already. He will be a perfect backup. 10-6 as a starter for the Niners. Remember how bad the Niners have been for the last 8 years and that is even more impressive. He doesn’t have the most talent out there. But he is smart to know his limits and stay within them. That’s why he is not flashy but would come in if have to and will not cough up the ball.

by Athletix Man on Mar 15, 2010 2:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Good to hear

Thanks for the info.

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by Sean Yuille on Mar 15, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Living in SF...I have seen Hill play in about 6 games..

He is soild. Nothing great. He moves around the pocket. He uses his feet to get out of trouble. He is smart. Knows he is not a gunslinger. Plays to his skill set. And he has worked with Linehan before. He is everything you want in a back-up.

if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin

by JCruize on Mar 15, 2010 8:14 AM EDT reply actions  

It should be noted....

Hills stats are what they are….

But he never had WRs as good as CJ and Nate…not even close

http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/

by CapitolLions on Mar 15, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

good move we just upgraded the team again

1st rd SUHHHH 2nd rd Kyle wilson 3rd RD RB best available

by DetroitLions 4 life on Mar 15, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I see you Martin Mayhew

The new regime deserves our positivity and support for the next season at the very least… if they draft well. It’s a better time for us fans than it has been in a decade.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Mar 15, 2010 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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