Whats up Mayhews sleeve?

by Fish9 on Mar 16, 2010 1:04 PM EDT

With all of this talk about upgrading the Oline with the #2 pick is very likely a smoke screen to get something else done. There are reports on PFT talking about how Holmgren is a big fan of Oklahoma's Sam Bradford, and seeing that the only QB left to start on their roster in Jake Delhomme?? This makes me think that the Browns are sitting and waiting for St.Louis to make their move because if they land a QB through free agency or trade (Derek Anderson, Mike Vick, Jason Campbell) then they will most likely be drafting Ndamukong Suh 1st overall. If that scenario plays out I see the Lions sitting there waiting for someone to trade up and take that pick from them. The Browns could definitely be that team. Offering up their 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks, they may need to throw a player or 5th round pick into the mix because according to the draft trade value chart it wouldnt equal up. A surprise team to trade up could be Kansas City who is looking to land a top flight OT and if they think the Lions will pull the trigger on Okung, they could try to switch places with the Leos to take him, in which the Lions will take one of the fan favorites in Eric Berry . Another scenario would be the Rams take the player they should in Sam Bradford and the Lions take their top player on their board, which I honestly believe is either Ndamukong Suh or Eric Berry.

Wanted Scenario:

Sign Anthony Hargrove,DE/DT for a 3rd round pick

Sign Deon Grant,SS

Sign Justin Fargas

Sign LG (Lilja or Pitts)

Draft:

1. St. Louis - Sam Bradford,QB,OKLA

2. Detroit - Ndamukong Suh,DT, NEB or Eric Berry,S,Tenn. (Whoever The Schwartz wants)

34. Detroit - Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise

98. Detroit - Myron Rolle,SS, Florida St. or Vince Oghobaase,DT/DE,Duke (Matters on #2 pick)

Look at this possible line up for the Leos:

D-Line : Hargrove - Suh (or Hill) - Williams - Vanden Bosch

Linebackers : Peterson - Levy - Sims

Defensive Backs : Houston - Delmas - Grant (or Berry) - Wilson

QB : Stafford

RB : Fargas - Smith/Morris/Brown

FB : Felton

TE : Pettigrew

OLine: Backus - Pitts/Lilja - Raiola - Peterson - Cherlius

WR : Johnson - Burleson - Northcutt / Johnson

Its a great start to compete for the now very strong NFC North. GO LIONS!!!

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Rolle is a late round draft pick I'm pretty sure...

*If Vargas passes a physical go for it.

*I sure hope we know what were getting if we sign Hargrove.

by msivits on Mar 16, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions

Roole ran a 4.68

I’m not impressed and for a guy that was away from football for a year he has a lot of catching up to do….even if he is “super smart”.

I’d sign fargas on the cheap but he is young and a decent/good back. There’s a big market for that this year with RFA rules.

Hargrove scares the crap out of me and if we are trading our third and signing him to a big contract, I’m not on board…..but I’m a sceptical lions fan so what do I know?

by Scotty G on Mar 16, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

Schwartz wants his safeties a lot faster than Rolle. When Schwartz says he wants players that fit, when he talks about wanting fast interchangable L/R safeties, not wanting bigger, slower “in-the-box” safeties, this is the kind of thing he’s talking about…….he wants guys who are a lot faster than that.

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by GRLion on Mar 17, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Rolle comments on his speed

Before the combine, Rolle commented that people said he was going to run a 4.7 40 to which he replied, “I have never ran a 4.7 in my life”.

He was right—-by 2/100ths of a second. Whew, he cut that one close eh?

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by footstock on Mar 17, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I am going to guess

his armpits are up his sleeves, again this is just a guess.

by IAmGross on Mar 16, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions

U R GROSS

by Gyorick on Mar 16, 2010 3:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

nice

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by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 16, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions

In a more serious tone

NO improvement to the offensive line. It is the only area ignored with all these moves.

Pitts is not an answer, just a turnicate to stop the bleeding.

by IAmGross on Mar 16, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions

Lilja is a definite improvement though

http://cmufootball.blogspot.com/

by CapitolLions on Mar 16, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions

He doesnt fir the Schwartz mold for olineman.....

…..Pitts however does fit the bill.

by BennieBladesFan on Mar 16, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Schwartz has a mold for what he wants from the players at various positions?

Of course he does. And he applies that principle to ALL positions.

by GRLion on Mar 17, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Not to nit pick

But Suh and Williams play the same position not Suh and Hill. Hill is a 1 tech while Suh and Williams are 3 techs

by GTlions on Mar 16, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions

Question?

Doesn’t the technique of the DT’s change depending on the defensive call? If memory serves, I have seen all of our DT’s line up in 0,1, 2,3.

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by footstock on Mar 16, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Both DT's are interchangable 2-gap LDT/RDT's, similar to Schwartz's "mirroring" of his LB's and safeties

Hill and Williams have the same role, and similar size/skills. They fit Gunther’s “GIANT DT” mold for his base 2-gap 4-3 defense. This “mirroring” gives them great left/right symmetry and flexibility in their play-calling, as Schwartz related in an interview.

by GRLion on Mar 17, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks

thats sort of what I thought.

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by footstock on Mar 17, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

like rolle

I would rather have the 3rd rounder than hargrove though.

How do you keep a running back out of your secondary? You put up a LEVY.

by The Profiler on Mar 16, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions

We'd probably need to trade up for Wilson

And at what cost?

by TX Lion on Mar 16, 2010 2:53 PM EDT reply actions

Mayhew will find out........and make an intelligent informed decision

Step 1, target likely teams to trade up over……teams that are a significant risk to draft him. Common sense, to get a player, you must draft him before the other teams that want him.

Step 2, check the standard draft pick value chart and modify based on educated judgement of and experience dealing with the specific GM’s involved.

Step 3, decide whether Wilson is worth trading over one or more of those teams, standing pat and sweating out all the picks, or some combination. If Schwartz/Mayhew think Kyle Wilson is that special, they’ll trade up as far as needed to get him……and we’ll get a great player. As he’s said, Schwartz targets specific players, and trades up or down to get them.

by GRLion on Mar 17, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Lilja is out, just signed for KC

Pitts is an improvement over Ramirez , anytime you can save your franchise QB some heat you do it even if it’s not the long term solution. No cap sign him if he doesn’t work let him go, make it front loaded.Also load up in the draft Pouncey, Jerry they have to get one that has a legit shot at starting IMO. I’ve seen that too about Rolle 5/6 round now.

by WAREDAWG on Mar 16, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions

you just draft your franchise qb last year and he got hurt inthe 1year and you have a chance to upgrade the left side of your offensive line by drafting russell okung ot whoe might be a allpro for next ten years . you do it and draft a dt in 2rd .

by kwfords on Mar 16, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions

I agree with you in theory, but I don’t think that Okung is worth the #2 overall. I’m not blown away by any of the OT in this years class

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by JazzyBBP on Mar 16, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I totally agree

Our defense has been alot worst than our offense. Plus Schwartz sang Backus’ praise after the season. If Okung is the pick, id be shocked

by Fish9 on Mar 16, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Schwartz sang Backus’ praise after the season.

Schwartz also said they have to find a LG. I wouldn’t doubt at all if the Schwatrz has allready had a talk with Backus about moving to guard and Okung is the top target.

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by JazzyBBP on Mar 16, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions

or...........they could do the obvious.......

………find a LG.

by GRLion on Mar 17, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey I like Rolle...

I think you have him picked a little high tho. Also I would prefer to see Blount on this team and if you think Wilson will make it to the 2nd round your FREAKIN CRAZY…Yeah I hope we get him but I really dont see him dropping. If he does we are lucky as can be !!!

by Joey-P on Mar 16, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions

We could have tons of better situations

This would have us at .500 or below. We could do much better.

by lionsman81 on Mar 16, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions

It dont matter, Browns are going to trade with the Lions

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/15/1374792/could-the-browns-shake-up-the-top

Its a win win for the Browns and the Lions. First off they get the Franchise QB at 2 and get him cheaper. Secondly they want a pro ready QB, and the most pro ready QB is Claussen not Bradford. Either way I think this is a done deal. The Lions could still end up with Suh, McCoy, Berry or Okung. Even if they do not there is Anthony Davis, Brian Bulaga, Joe Haden, Trent Williams, Kyle Wilson, Taylor Mays, Maurkice Pouncy, and Ryan Mathews. I just hope they do not take Mike Iupati. That guy is way over rated IMO, he is a grabber.

The key here is to watch who’s pro days the Lions go to on that list and who they have in for workouts.

by Evilsmurf on Mar 17, 2010 5:41 AM EDT reply actions