Kevin Smith, or How I learned to be long winded about any topic
Drafted with the 64th pick in the 2008 draft, Kevin Smith has been the starting running back since the first game of the fateful 0-16 season. Coming out of the University of Central Florida, Smith was touted as a talented back, with the caveat of having shouldered a massive load of carries during his college career.
2007 was a stellar year for the young running back, having set a new NCAA record of 450 rushing attempts (previously held by USC and eventual Raider running back Marcus Allen), culminating in falling only 62 yards shy of toppling ex-Detroit Lion Barry Sanders' collegiate record of 2,628 yards in a single season. His career statistics were staggering: 905 carries for 4,864 yards and 45 touchdowns. He became only the 2nd UCF player in the school's history to recieve Heisman votes (the other being Daunte Culpepper), finishing in 8th place with 55 total points and 3 first place votes.
So why am I rehashing some relatively well-known information about our starting running back? There seems to be a misconception about Kevin Smith that has led many Lions fans to believe that there is some sort of issue with our running back, that he is somehow, a bum. This is a small dissertation intended to debunk that theory.
As I said, Smith was selected with the 64th overall selection in the 2008 draft, becoming the 8th back chosen with the first pick of the third round. Picked before him were notable backs (and future Pro Bowlers) Chris Johnson and Ray Rice, along with Darren McFadden, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones, Rashard Mendenhall, and Matt Forte.
There is no doubt whatsoever that Kevin Smith is not on the level that Chris Johnson, or even Ray Rice are on. However, every single running back listed was drafted before (in most cases LONG before) Smith was targeted at the top of the first round. Regardless, he was chosen, and won the starting job with the eventual recipients of the single season loss record, our Detroit Lions. In 2008, with one of the most atrocious offensive lines (and offenses overall), Smith managed to pile up these statistics:
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G |
GS |
Att |
Yds |
Avg |
Long |
TDs |
Rec |
Yds |
Avg |
Long |
TD |
FUM |
Lost |
|
16 |
12 |
238 |
976 |
4.1 |
50 |
8 |
39 |
286 |
7.3 |
27 |
0 |
2 |
1 |
On arguably the worst team in NFL history, a 3rd round draft pick thrust into starting 12 games managed to get almost 1000 yards on the ground, with another 40 receptions. OK, so he's not Adrian Peterson, but that's none too shabby, especially given the circumstances. Smith kept his head up and his feet moving and turned in a solid rookie season, finishing in the top 20 in the NFL in rushing yards, beating out guys like Ronnie Brown and Brian Westbrook.
In his second year, 2009, Smith played a shortened season due to a shoulder injury and later, a season-ending knee injury. In another 2-14 campaign, Smith's stat line is as follows:
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G |
GS |
Att |
Yds |
Avg |
Long |
TDs |
Rec |
Yds |
Avg |
Long |
TD |
FUM |
Lost |
|
13 |
13 |
217 |
747 |
3.4 |
31 |
4 |
41 |
415 |
10.1 |
63 |
1 |
3 |
2 |
Once again, nothing extremely spectacular, but with injuries sidelining QB Matthew Stafford, WR Calvin Johnson, and another year of ineptitude on the offensive line, I'd say that another season of over 1000 combined yards isn't too bad. Also, sharing the backfield with rookie Aaron Brown and free-agent acquisition Maurice Morris shaved off some production.
Compiling Smith's first two years in the league gives you the following stat line:
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G |
GS |
Att |
Yds |
Avg |
Long |
TDs |
Rec |
Yds |
Avg |
Long |
TD |
FUM |
Lost |
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29 |
25 |
455 |
1,723 |
3.8 |
50 |
12 |
80 |
701 |
8.8 |
63 |
1 |
5 |
3 |
So essentially, in two years of service with our former 3rd round pick, we've recieved one Adrian Peterson-esque rushing season, coupled with a season of a solid slot reciever. Smith is also a very good blocker, and a great locker room influence. He is never heard saying anything other than how confident in our ability to win, and every single play I see him run, he's constantly churning for every extra inch he can possibly get.
Now imagine if Kevin Smith had a decent offensive line to run behind, or perhaps if our passing game managed to get off the ground (per se) this year. Staying healthy is the biggest concern here, for obvious reasons, but being a 23 year old, world class athlete certainly helps his chances. My opinion is that he will rebound, and continue to improve along with our offense, and regardless of whether we bring in another back, he will be an important cog, as he has been the last two years.
For all the naysayers, please give me something that backs your belief that K. Smooth is anything less than a solid role player who could lead a two back field. I'd love to hear your reasons.
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Nate D.
Thank you so much for posting this. When Kevin was called a BUM it actually upset me cause I know better. I am so glad you did the research to prove our theory correct. While he is not Adrian Peterson. K smooth Is a capable running back in the NFL and with a better O line I would like to think his rookie season won’t be his best. I love the post looks like you really took alot of time and effort to make your point. APPLAUSE
How do you keep a running back out of your secondary? You put up a LEVY.
Great Post Nate D.
Still not sold however.
Yes he had a adrian-esque rushing season, in two years, as you pointed out. To me, thats more of a concern than it is a positive.
Kevin Smith, is a strong willed, and physical runner. Unfortunately he is not too spectacular at any one part of his game. In my humble opinion, he is a 10 – 12 carry back in a two back system. This is where he will strive. As a single back, I just dont see the fireworks. I need more, is he a bum? No.
Is he a workhorse to put our entire run game on? definitely not.
This is why i hope we see a matthews, gerhart, or hopefully spiller (fingers crossed) in our backfield. Not only to improve our performance, but give Smith an opportunity to excel.
Well then we agree fully.
I think Smith can be the main back in a two back system, but either way, I don’t believe that any one back can truly excel in this league, outside of a Chris Johnson/Adrian Peterson scenario (although AP has had the luxury of Chester Taylor until now).
I completely agree with your assessment; however, I take exception to people who seem to not recognize how hard Smith has worked for us. He’s a good young back with lots of time left in this league.
I would love to see brown take off
To give kev that change of pace guy that we need. I to belive though smith can be the #1 back in detroit too.
How do you keep a running back out of your secondary? You put up a LEVY.
by The Profiler on Mar 18, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think he is a number one
he is a 10 – 12 carry back in a two back system.
I believe he is a split back.
Agreed
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by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 19, 2010 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Once again
The ghost of Sanders strikes our RB’s. At least that’s what it sounds like to me…
How many lumps you want Doc?
I'm glad we have Smith
He is always upbeat, a hard worker and does all things well. A great pick at the third round! I hope he’s back stronger than ever.
+100000
How do you keep a running back out of your secondary? You put up a LEVY.
by The Profiler on Mar 18, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here coolbreeze
But let me also say I liked the RB that he replaced when we drafted him as well.
How many lumps you want Doc?
me too
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 18, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
so did i
it’s a shame what has happened to him….i do hope he gets picked up and does whatever he needs to do to stay healthy and be productive on another team.
Oops, sorry DR....
I thought you were talking about k-smooth—-didn’t notice that you guys shifted gears to KJ.
It would have been REALLY funny if you deadpanned that comment about k-smooth though!
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lmao Foot
Hey Footstock; who are you planning on drafting for our Lions in that Mock draft over on the bronco’s site????
How many lumps you want Doc?
Gerhart, Freddy Barnes, and the dude who screwed his sister
that should follow the bpa mantra no?
:-)
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James Jones??
LOL!! Does anyone remember that?
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That was in reply to.....
the dude who screwed his sister
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when Jones was 100%
he was a pretty good back
How do you keep a running back out of your secondary? You put up a LEVY.
by The Profiler on Mar 18, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Can still see him
running over Ray Lewis with a thundering blast of his shoulder pads and seeing Lewis fall backwards on his ass! If it wouldn’t have been for those damn injuries.
How many lumps you want Doc?
My only real problem...
with Smith is he doesn’t seem to have top end speed to talk of really… it’s good to have a back getting 4+ per carry, but that real home run threat is nice also and he doesn’t really fit that description on the ground.
agreed
he has decent speed but he def doesn’t have that extra gear or the bulldozing element one needs to get to the endzone….would love to see blount if all the speedsters are gone by the time we pick in the 4th or 5th.
No way in hell I want Blount
Why does it seem like nobody noticed his bench press numbers at the combine? I know the combine is not what defines a player’s ability, but this particular one scares the shit out of me:
LeGarrette Blount: 18 reps
Dexter McCluster: 20 reps
Now, the reason this should be a concern, if you didn’t know, is that BLOUNT OUTWEIGHS MCCLUSTER BY SEVENTY POUNDS, yet was out lifted by him.
For a guy who’s supposed to be a power back, he has pitiful upper body strength. When you add this on top of his questionable judgment, there’s no way in hell I want this guy on my team.
Motown
In most RB’s the power comes from the legs not the upper body. I’m just curious if anyone wants to look up what kind of benchpressing #‘s Barry and Emmit;Marcus Allen ever had. It’s all about the drive.
How many lumps you want Doc?
Very true!
How come they don’t have them do squats and calf raises at the combine?
Do they have them do anyting to evaluate lower body strength?
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Umm...
are you really trying to compare Blount to a trio of Hall of Famers?
First, Barry shouldn’t even be mentioned, as he was obviously infinitely faster and quicker then Blount ever will be. When you’re an elusive back, you don’t need upper body strength.
Likewise, Marcus Allen, who was a DB in college before his coach switched him to RB, was also obviously much faster and quicker then Blount will ever be.
Emmitt Smith didn’t have the speed or quickness the other 2 had, but he’s Emmitt Smith. He was an anomaly.
When you have speed and quickness, you can get away with not being a strong guy. When you run a 4.62 in the 40 like Blount did, you don’t have that luxury.
Exactly Davis
You do not use upper body strength when you are CARRYING the football. However, blocking is another matter completely…….
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That has nothing to do with BENCH PRESS
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That was in reply to NL12
motown….I will agree with you somewhat. However, a stiff arm does not truly require upper body strength either. It is a locked arm extended at the proper moment..and you push off with your legs.
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Im with you
Nate like ussual. I would like to see him ove 4 a carry though. then again I’d like to see a a push from the O line in the running game as well.
I have a 9" personality
by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
kevin smith can do it he just needs to be healthy now
or well never know
1st rd SUHHHH 2nd rd Kyle wilson 3rd RD RB best available
by DetroitLions 4 life on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 PM EDT reply actions
K-Smooth would be the perfect 3rd down back, like a Kevin Faulk or Chet Taylor
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A great spot for Kevin Smith!
With his blocking and receiving ability… it says put me in on third down!
by coolbreeze42 on Mar 18, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Kevin is a good all around back.
But I don’t think some of the criticism was wrong or unfair. His running was not very good this year. He is not a break away threat and he is not the kind of back who can break tackles and get the tough yards. He is a very good blocker, an excellent pass catcher and a great teammate and a hard worker. Blaming the O Line does not cut it with me as Morris averaged over a half yard more per carry, behind that same line.
I also don’t like to hear that he was injured last year. In that case he should not have been playing.Schwartz has to bear some of the blame for that.
I think Kevin is a very good complementary back who would fit very well with someone like J. Best or a big bruiser like Anthony Dixon.
Northy
After like week 1 isn’t everyone basically playing hurt???? If a Rb or anyone for that matter says he can play I think the coach’s are going to play them reguardless. Terrell Davis played for almost a whole year with that whole headache thing and it didn’t stop Shanny from playing him.
How many lumps you want Doc?
He should have been placed on IR...
…he played the whole year with a severe shoulder injury. He wanted to try to help the team, and instead he’s gotten buried for it (especially by Michael “The Original Four Eyed Dink” Rosenberg and the 97.1 team of dueling idiots Pat Kapputo and Dennis Fifian). If I’m ever in sports journalism I’ll beg any runningback trying to play hurt to just go on IR since the fans will bury you if you go forward.
by Mister Gloom on Mar 20, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You have a good point
Kevin is a good runner, receiver and blocker. Peterson, Chris Johnson… are on a different level. They were selected in the 1st round.
Kevin was selected in the 3rd round… I say he’s a great player especially for the 3rd round pick!
Gosder was our 1st pick and Dizon our 2nd pick in 2008. I say Kevin was our best pick for value in 2008.
I’m not saying he’s the best, I’m just saying that he’s a good RB for our team and didn’t cost as much as other players that haven’t produced as much.
Kevin Smith is a solid player who will be a top contributing in the new RB committee which I think we will see instituted sometime this season
I expect us to draft a RB somewhere in the first 3 rounds. The draft pick, plus Smith, Morris and Brown will make our RB committee. That is what I expect.
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enough said
name one other 3 rd draft pick could be better? seriously? i need to know?
Past or future?
Brandon Jacobs and Marion Barber were chosen in the fourth round. Shonn Greene, Jamaal Charles, Steve Slaton, Tashard Choice, and Frank Gore were all chosen in the third round.
Since the draft has not happened this year we don’t know who might be in the third round. An educated guess is Anthony Dixon or Montario Hardesty who both look like good prospects who may likely be available in the third or even fourth round.
Not sure that I understand the comparisons to AP
Kevin Smith doesn’t fumble that much and his OLINE doesn’t create semi-truckesque holes for him to run through.
He was just saying that Smith's stats over two years compare to one normal AP year.....
No real important deduction should be drawn from the comparison…..it was just a statement.
I agree with you though FMF…..AP did fumble a LOT last year and he does run behind a FAR superior offensive line. I wonder what it would be like if WE had Adrian Peterson and the Vikings had Kevin Smith…..both healthy and both rookies. Would the outcome have been the same as it is today? I think everyone would be talking about what a stud Kevin Smith is, and what a BUM Adrian Peterson is……
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sorry about that!
Adrian wouldn’t have the receiving yards that Kevin Smith has.
by coolbreeze42 on Mar 19, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I said that, haha
So essentially, in two years of service with our former 3rd round pick, we’ve recieved one Adrian Peterson-esque rushing season, coupled with a season of a solid slot reciever.
For all the naysayers, please give me something that backs your belief that K. Smooth is anything less than a solid role player who could lead a two back field. I’d love to hear your reasons.
1. He’s got a tore up knee
2. His career YPC is only 3.8
3. He only had 1 carry over 20 yds last season; 7 the previous season.
4. He’s going into next season with a new knee. which means he will not be 100%, which means he will not have a good year, unless he has another quality back to help him carry the load.
Now I’m not a naysayer, just a realist. Our pedigree is hobbled right now, to ignore this and think everything will be hunkydory will lead to more losses.
For all the naysayers, please give me something that backs your belief that Drafting a RB is anything less than a solid move that could lead to a consistent two back field threat. I’d love to hear your reasons.
Sorry CLF.....
1) So did Ronnie Brown
2) 3.8 behind a ridiculously horrible offensive line is nothing short of fucking AMAZING
3) He had injuries that he was playing with, prior to the knee injury in 09…..he was healthy all year in 08.
4) Speculation
5) I agree that you could make an argument that your ideas are realistic, but the other side of the ball is just as realistic. Ronnie Brown came back strong…..so can Kevin Smith.
6) I will not say that I think drafting a guy like Blount or Gerhart in a LATER round would be a bad move, because I think it would definitely be a solid move. However, I think it is FAR more important to upgrade the run blocking ability of our offensive line. It matters not what running backs we have until that happens…..unless their name happened to be Barry Sanders, or they could do the things that Barry did with a swiss cheese offensive line.
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Damn tab button...
But 24th in the NFL in rushing, 31st in rushes over 20, and a starting RB with a bum knee….
Pretty much just voided any and all excuses for NOT drafting a RB.
Personally, I don’t mind K.Smith… but going into next season with a rehabbing knee and a tender shoulder… It would be smart to limit his touches. God knows, if the lions go into next season without some fresh legs to pound the rock… Ksmith will not last the season and turn into another Kevin mistake. Morris is getting old, and Aaron brown is only a 5-10 touches back. Dorsey is a nobody.
Draft to protect your asset…. and have a backup plan. RBs don’t last long in the NFL…. I hope detroit drafts one every year.
lol
I agree we need to draft a RB……just not one in the first 3 rounds, and not one in the 4th unless he is one that fell there unexpectedly, making him the BPA.
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I'll agree that this draft has a deficient RB core...
So I’ll agree that BPA would be hard to come to in this draft with regards to the 1-3 rounds.
I still like BEST… I hope he drops to the 3rd.
I don't see what's wrong with Maurice Morris
and everyone is still high on Aaron Brown… I don’t get why there’s so much clamor for a new RB… I mean, sure if a guy is there AND he’s BPA, take him, but other than that, I don’t see why we take a flier drafting for position solely for a running back. Maurice Morris more than capably filled the role Smith held before his injury.
I agree with KDawg; there are bigger issues on our team.
A bigger flyer...
Is thinking K smith will be 100% game shape by week 1 and able to carry the load as starting RB.
A bigger flyer...
Is thinking K smith will be 100% game shape by week 1 and able to carry the load as starting RB.
And to add...
where did I say K smith needed to be replaced? My opinion to draft a RB is to secure that KS will be healthy and productive ALL season AND add an explosive #2 back that can grow and expand the offense.
Aaron Brown just didn’t do it for me last year, and as for Mo Mo, he’s near the end of his career.
Then we are in agreeance
The post was moreso just to people who thought that Kevin Smith never was and never will be a productive member of this team. I personally think he’s great if only for the competitive nature and presence he brings here. He can only help make the team better.
Kevin is a solid back, coming off a serious injury.
Maurice and Aaron can do decent but we do need to draft a RB. I agree though that it is folly to draft one before round 3 and I actually prefer to wait till round 4 or 5, with guys like Gerhart, Tate, and Blount out there it is much more important to take the pedigree linemen and defensive backs.

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