With all the different senerios out there here is 1 that i haven't seen yet
by lionsfan_772 on Mar 18, 2010 7:20 PM EDT
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What about a trade down w/ the Bills who do need a QB. Swap #1 picks and get their 3rd and 4th rd's. and this is my mock if that would happen. They have the 9th overall BTW
1. E. Thomas S
2. D. McCourty CB
3. A. Jones DT Syrause
3. J. Shipley WR
4. T. Gerhart RB
4. Adam Vlatoski T Texas
5-7 BPA
IMO that would fill many holes and give us some room to due some real damage the D would be set the O would be almost set.. Will need to get some better OL but you can only fill so many holes a yr. Rome was not built in a day or even a yr. ( and I am not talking about Jim Rome either).
So chime in and tell me what you think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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not bad
definatly no what I would have done but there are some solid picks in there. well done
How do you keep a running back out of your secondary? You put up a LEVY.
thank you
like i said trying to fill many spots in 1 draft just wont happen but we can get some ppl in some key spots will make us much better
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Hey you posted on the colts blog and didn't make it clear at all whether this was a Mock Draft you were participating in??
if so there are a few comments and probably should make it clear in your post.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 18, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
how did that happen???
i know i clicked on the bills….lol stupid CPU
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i swear it was...
not the operator i know that was the 1 i was clicking on so until someone or something can prove me wrong that will be my statement until then.. and if anyone has any proof i will hold my hands over my ears and shut my eyes cuz i will still be in denial…..lol :)
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Admitting that you have a problem is the first step to recovery.....lol
Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!
i swear it's...
the CPU not me… it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is it is……………..LOL
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
of corse and we felt something was odd but it is solved now lol
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 19, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha nice excuse lol
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 19, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So at the 9 spot
You would take Earl thomas(who I like) over the top CB, Thomas is probably the 3rd best S in this draft and at 9 I think I’d rather see either top DE/CB I just think Thomas will be there at the 34th pick since according to most of the guru’s here S isn’t that big of an importance and they just arn’t worth 1st round picks. 1 of the top 3 should slide to us in the second round.
How many lumps you want Doc?
here is why i didnt go w/ a DE or CB in the 1st
- with the DL FA/trade moves we have made so far we can put that on the “back burner” for a short (and i mean short) min.
- IMO i think Haden is overrated overrated a bit should be a later 1st (like top 15) and Wilson is not worth a top 10 (top 25)
- Thomas will go in the 1st rd he is just overshadowed by Berry and Mays. IMO he has the same skills as Berry and much better than Mays and he is overrated. Mays reminds me of Roy Williams.
- Yes I am all for getting Suh (so this was just another idea) and i know Berry will go top 7 and if we had a chance to get him I am all for that but would be happy w/ either 1.
This thought process was about filling more holes and getting more talent on the team… I am by far a Suh kool aid drinker and Berry is my 2nd favorite flavor but i like this idea as well
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 18, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear ya.
And understand exactly were you are coming from. I just think because Mayes is coming from USC that his Hype machine will get him drafted before Thomas; even though I like Thomas more than Mayes at this point. And I’m assuming that we are trading down as well so I can understand what you are saying.
How many lumps you want Doc?
yes as i started the post off w/..
What about a trade down w/ the Bills who do need a QB. Swap #1 picks and get their 3rd and 4th rd’s. and this is my mock if that would happen. They have the 9th overall BTW
and you know that USC/LA/West Coast hype machine is worth at least 5-10 draft slots (just like the SEC) and anyone that plays in Florida
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 18, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So HAPPY to hear someone else say that!!!!!!
Oh I am soooooo sick of having the SEC shoved down my thought as the “BEST” conferance in the nation. Put any of those teams in the Big 10 or Pac 10 or Big 12 and let’s see how they do. Hell if it wasn’t for the officials giving their top teams call after call every year they wouldn’t even have teams in the big games at the end of the year.
How many lumps you want Doc?
i live in the south (memphis)
so you know i hear it ALL THE TIME.. so i feel your pain when it comes to the SEC
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I like it, but Earl Thomas is more of a Free safety like Delmas
but I wouldnt mind moving one of them over
i say if as long as
the other team cant catch it. It dont matter if they are a FS,SS, or the waterboy..lol i just wanna win.. but yeah i am w/ you i think either 1 could move to the other S spot.. not sure but in cunninghams D i dont think he uses the tradtional FS/SS postions
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 18, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather take
a LT maybe Trent Williams or something idk
maybe the reason you havent seen it.......
is because its not worth moving down 7 spots for a 3rd and 4th rounder. we’d be losing roughly the same value as the #17 overall pick with that deal.
+2
too move down 7 spots, Buffalo better throw in a 2nd rd somewhere. I’d consider their 1st 2nd and 4th. No way they would give up all 1-4
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i dont think they would give
1st 2nd and 4th so maybe 1,3,4 and a 2 in next yrs draft they may make that deal build now and get some next yr.. the yr of fixing up the OL
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
sure if....
you went w/ and out dated draft board
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
sure the actual values fluctuate yr to yr,
depending on talent, but its still a good guide for how the teams value the picks. no matter how you look at it, they’d be giving up a ton of value for very little.
hmmm
don’t really like shipley, i know we need wr help but i think we can get something a little better there.
by yamahawarrior89 on Mar 18, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
honest question for you.. (making a case for Shipley)
have you seen him play and or seen his stats? Shipley was a stud.. Texas and Colt McCoy never did the Bradford/ OU thing as in padding the stats so when Texas was killing who ever by the time the 3rd qtr. was done they were mainly pounding the ball and then in the 4th they would get pulled.
Sure there are better down field threats (as for shipley he can also go down field) but Nate is that guy for the next couple yrs. and Shipley will be able to take that role when the time or when it will be needed.
Shipley was a go to slot receiver (avg about 10 catch per game and more than 100yds per game) that would go over the middle and would KR/PR as well.. like i have said before he reminds me of Wes Welker.
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
McClain
If this were the scenario, I would say we take a good look at McClain if he is there. Sims, McClain, Levy for the next few years sounds pretty good to me. I dont see Peterson hangin in after this year so why not get the BEST LB in the draft. I agree that we should get at least a 2nd rounder in this deal though.
thought about that as well
IMO it was better to fix the secondary since we do have 3 better than avg. LB’s and we really dont have to much in talent in the secondary.. must of the guys we got (minus Delmas and now Houston) wouldnt start on 90% of the teams in the NFL
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Bills are a possible trading partner
But from what I’ve heard they look to be targeting an OT. Unless they really, really love Okung or one of the QBs, I just don’t see it.
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i really think
they are needing a qb
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
If St. Louis doesn't draft Bradford
this scenario is possible. No way will Buffalo trade up for Jimmy Claussen or Russell Okung though.
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Not bad ...
Thomas…I think thats WAY to high to pick him. I would rather get K. Wilson, I believe the McCourtney will be going to the Vikings. If he was there I would fully agree. I am super high on Shipley and mark my words, who ever gets him just got a impact player or at least a significant player for there team. I would rather get both those CBs early, M. Rolle and Blount in later rounds and spend our mid round picks on O-line like Jerry or Aso..(sp). I like all the players you named for our team, just not really were there lining up with the picks and would prefer some other people over them. I like the Wilson and McCourtney combo. One is like flypaper as a cover guy, the other is very physical and plays the run like crazy and would be perfect against a big touch slot WR. That would make a heck of a combo.
not bad ideas
i still think berry is the best S in the draft (does have that SEC hype machine tho). as well as mays (w/ the west coast hype machine). to rank the 3 top safeties would be 1 berry 2 thomas 3 mays..
thomas played in the pass happy big 12 and was a stud all yr long and he will be a top 15 pick.
Pre-combine there was the McCoy/Suh debate the 1a and 1b rankings. i see it the same way with berry/thomas. and if there was more need from a S in the top 10 then he would have shot up there on the draft board. mark my words he will be awesome.
also with some of these DL that’s coming out seems to me to be that Veron G. type SEC DE.. i have said this before if you are good in the SEC that is worth 10 spots on the draft board
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
just think of this
Mark Ingram won the heisman this yr and he wasnt the best player and he sure wasnt even the best RB. but like i said when you play in the SEC you get more votes and a higher spot on the draft board.. the writers and the so called “experts” just fall in love w/ them… here is another example haden… if i remember reading this correctly he really didnt impress on his pro day and florida has a very fast field; which is 1 reason he was slotted to go top 10
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The national hype machine is bigger than any conference's
ESPN. The NFL Network. You know those guys.
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yes we do
and they are head over heals for anyone from the SEC and USC
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 19, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Suh and McCoy (and now Okung) didn't play for ANY of those teams......but THAT'S who the media is "head over heels" for
See that enourmous tidal wave? It’s the media hype is for Suh, McCoy, and now Okung.
How do you miss that?
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due to the fact..
they have no choice but to spotlight the best players.. but after that and history shows they love these guys yr. in and yr. out… this is just something i have noticed over the yrs
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by lionsfan_772 on Mar 23, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's going to be Suh/ McCoy
As much as I like trades and getting more picks/players to fill holes. I was thinking about Schwartz saying about how he wants to get pressure without blitzing all the time. Then I got to thinking about how that late night meeting with KVB went down, considering how great his years went with Haynesworth leading the charge. I wonder how hard it would have been if he said I’am going to grab me 1 of these great DT’s and it’s going to be like the good old days….. Where do I sign coach! ……….+ I wonder how much you can get in a trade up for a QB (which seems to be the only position anybody will trade up for) a guy who hasn’t played hardly last year coming off shoulder surgery. and the other guy isn’t projected as high………… The only thing that worries me is when I see DT"s like Warren Sapp 4.84 40 time or Reggie White 4.6 40 time they had unbelievable 40 times and then you have the giants like Haynesworth. These 2 don’t fit into either catagory where you can just say this guys going to be unstoppable…… Then I think how do you know if it’s a sure thing how do you know if there going to be truly great!…………So now IMO I don’t think there going to trade down with Bills or anyone else…….. I think it’s going to be Suh and I think he’s going to be great!!!!….and it’s Friday I’am going to grab me another beer!!!!!!!!
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