Tuesday Notes: Restricted Free Agent News to Come Down Today?
by Sean Yuille on Mar 2, 2010 4:10 AM EST
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- The Lions will alert their restricted free agents about their status going forward sometime today.
- Speaking of restricted free agents, offensive guard Davis Baas received a tendered contract offer from the 49ers. I know there has been a lot of talk about possibly picking him up, but since the 49ers could get a second-round pick if a team signs him, that doesn't exactly seem all that likely.
- Saints running back Mike Bell got a tendered offer as well, but signing him would not cost a team any draft picks.
- A couple players suffered injuries during the NFL Combine and were unable to finish all of the drills. Russell Okung, for example, missed a couple drills after experiencing a "minor groin injury." And yesterday Brandon Graham tweaked his hamstring and will now have to wait until Michigan's pro day to do all of the drills. (By the way, for those of you concerned about Graham's arm length, they were measured wrong at the Senior Bowl; they are actually 32 1/4 inches, not 30 1/2. Whoops.)
- Based solely on what happened at the NFL Combine, Mocking the Draft thinks Ndamukong Suh has separated himself from Gerald McCoy.
- Considering what Mike Mayock's reaction was to McCoy's combine performance, I wouldn't be surprised if he shakes up the top of his draft board, which currently has the Oklahoma defensive tackle in the No. 1 spot.
- Pride of Detroit recently went over the 100,000 comments mark!
- Matthew Stafford has another AXE Hair Action Challenge commercial out. There is also one that goes behind the scenes, which can be seen below.
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lol
Hopefully when training camp begins he won’t be as distracted. I wonder what his teammates are going to say about this. Haha
by topherclosson on Mar 2, 2010 11:15 AM EST via mobile reply actions
funny as hell
nice hair action… I’d do the same thing…
ok.. looking forward to the announcements… then FRIDAY!!!!
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
FINALLY!! Mayock finally opened his GD eyes and admitted that Gerald McCoy lacks the strength that he should possess at this point in his football career! This is what I have been saying all along! Gerald McCoy is NOT strong enough to make an immediate impact at the NFL level! I also watched some combine footage of McCoy yesterday in the 3 cone drill…..he looked so slow when he was changing directions…..there were guys I have never even heard of that looked faster! Just as I suspected, McCoy has been overhyped and his draft stock will surely fall now that teams have seen his combine performance. I would NOT be surprised to see him fall out of the top 5…..but he will be drafted in the top 10. Not saying he is a bad prospect…..just affirming my belief that he is not a top 5 prospect. :o)
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What's even more funny is........
that I have already read some comments from guys who were puffing on McCoy’s chode earlier (not here on POD, but elsewhere), saying that he only put up 23 reps because of his long arms! Are you F-ing kidding me! Gerald McCoy’s arms are ONE QUARTER of an INCH longer than Suh’s!! LMMFAO!!!! McCluster did 20 reps!!! OMFG!!! I love it!
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I want Suh
I pray that the Lions draft Ndamukong Suh with the #2 pick if he is there and they are unable to trade down. If they can make a trade with Seattle for picks 6 and 14, I hope to God they can draft Eric Berry at pick 6…..
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I doubt that'd happen
Since Seattle is in need of talent nearly as badly as us, but I would totally agree with and love for that to happen.
Maybe they want to move up to ensure that they get their QB
Maybe they want a player that we can afford to trade…..who knows. That would be the ideal trade in my opinion, even if it is unlikely.
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+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
And if your not DOWN with that we got 2 words for YA
TAMPA BAY
The best there is, The best there was, and the best there ever will be - Bret the Hitman hart
Mike Bell wouldn't be too bad
He has some talent and very few miles on this legs.
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It's an "I told you so" moment!
Suh clearly outmatched McCoy in the bench press, putting up 32 repetitions of 225 pounds to McCoy’s 23. Suh also jumped five inches higher than McCoy. The vertical is used to show explosion and Suh’s 35.5-inch leap is impressive.
Suh also timed as well as McCoy in the 40-yard dash. The former Cornhusker ran unofficial times of 4.98 and 5.07 seconds while McCoy ran a 4.96 and 5.14.
It’s no suprise that Suh clearly outclassed McCoy’s poor Combine performance. KDawg and I had been saying all along that McCoy was weak for his size. McCoy’s 23 bench press reps were 35th out of 50 DT’s at the Combine. As for his size, 295 Lbs is big for a man, but below average for a DT. By NFL DT standards, McCoy is small and weak. That’s what I’ve been saying all along.
It’s no surprise to me, but guess what, it surprised some of the so-called “experts”.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/01/mayock-stunned-mccoy-managed-just-23-reps/
NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock has been one of the biggest supporters of Oklahoma defensive tackle Gerald McCoy, ranking him ahead of Nebraska’s Ndamukong Suh as the best player in the 2010 NFL draft.
But Mayock said he thinks McCoy’s performance in the bench press at the scouting combine (23 repetitions of 225 pounds) is a red flag.
“When you start comparing numbers, which is what this combine is all about, in the weight room yesterday Suh did 32 and McCoy did 23,” Mayock said Monday on NFL Network. “I was stunned that McCoy only did 23 reps. That tells me he hasn’t been in the weight room the way he should have been over the last three years.”
I’ve been saying all along not to blindly trust these “talking heads”. Kiper, McShay, Mayock put on makeup and talk a good game in front of the cameras, but don’t have NFL experience as a player, coach, or scout (as far as I know). They get paid to say stuff, LOOK like experts, and “break stories”…..even if they’re not true. Their track record in correctly predicting picks is horrible…….just like most of the other lemming “experts”. I saw McCoy’s poor combine performance coming a mile away
The 10 players I most want to watch:
1. S Eric Berry. 40 time, cone drills (also known as shuttle), etc. Could run in the 4.3’s……as a safety!
2. CB Kyle Wilson. 40 time, cone drills, etc. Ran a 4.36 last spring at the Boise Pro Day before deciding to return to school. Could run in the 4.3’s again.
3. CB Devin McCourty. 40 time, cone drills, etc. The Lions want fast man cover CB’s for Gunther’s blitzing defense. He’s another strong possibility.
4. UT Ndomakong Suh. # of bench press reps at 225, max bench, 40 time, cone drills.
5. UT Gerald McCoy. Same as Suh. Just so I can laugh.
I saw McCoy’s poor Combine performance coming a mile away, and also predicted that Kyle Wilson would have a great Fiesta Bowl and Senior Bowl Week, and was a better player than the “experts” thought he was. I was right both times, and Mayock was late to the party both times. Don’t trust the “experts”! Think for yourselves, and come to your own conclusions! The “experts” are drinking each other’s Kool-aid…….and Mel Kiper dips his hair in it.
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
I don't know about the rest of those guys
But Berry ran a blistering 4.44 in the 40. That’s damn good if not great for a safety that can bring the wood.
Geez, you and KDawg are awfully happy about one combine performance
Don’t you think your going a bit overboard. I can understand your happy that his performance was everything you predicted, and good on ya. But it’s not like this guy has busted yet. He’s still probably gonna be a top 3 pick, could even still be picked by us (no matter what you say, it’s a possibility) and could still be a pro-bowler in the future. In saying all that though, I’d rather Suh….I know I’m crazy, I’d just don’t like ruling people out before they’ve played a game in the NFL.
Congrats on the prediction.
The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 2, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry HE
It has been one of those days for me…..I had a wild hair up my arse this morning. However, I do not see us drafting McCoy now, and that makes me very happy. Yes, I said it.
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I more on your side now anyway
I was disappointed with McCoy’s performance. His shine has been dulled a bit. I expected a lot more agility from him, and I don’t think I seen that. Or, at least not enough to separate him from Suh. Suh appears to have everything McCoy has plus some of the things he doesn’t. I want Suh as a Lion, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think McCoy can be a pro-bowler in the future.
The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 3, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
I agree 100%
Gerald McCoy CAN and probably will be a pro bowler in the FUTURE…..:o) That was my argument all along….he is a project at DT in the NFL, until he hits the weights and gains some strength, while also working on his mobility.
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McCoy's mental toughness, work ethic, intangibles have also now come into question......as I predicted
From one of my previous comments:
In every interview I’ve seen, Ndomakong Suh and Eric Berry seem like guys who are mentally tough, who have great intagibles to go along with their talent. I’ve never gotten that impression from any Gerald McCoy interview. In terms of personality, he reminds me of the late Gaines Adams. That’s obviously a hard thing to quantify, so don’t ask me to prove it, but in terms of reading people, that’s the sense I get. I just don’t see the intangibles with McCoy. Ability alone has carried him this far, but the NFL is an entirely different level.
Fromhttp://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/3/1/1332053/suhs-nfl-combine-performance-sets
But Ross Tucker of Sports Illustrated had some questions about McCoy on his Twitter page.
I’m all for enjoying the experience but I don’t think (Gerald) McCoy’s loosey-goosey attitude excited many D-Line coaches today," Tucker wrote. “There’s a time to have fun and a time to be serious and take care of business. Plus, 23 reps is pretty weak for a stud DT. I think (Brady) Quinn got more.”
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
i am also convinced
that Suh is better by a long shot over McCoy and that RB and CB wise there will be some great pickupds in the 2nd – 4th rounds!!!!!!
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
Mccoy is a great football player....
……Suh is probably the man stil…..If the Lions brass likes Mccoy if hes on the board and they like him so be it….I trust there opinion….Just becasue someone doesnt bench a certain amount at a combine and now people dont like him….thats why I hate the combine….Stil a great player and id be happy to have him in Detroit if we take him.
I never "liked" Gerald McCoy
I think he is a solid prospect…..even a top 10 guy……just not a top 5 guy and NOT a #2 overall pick. That was my argument the whole time. As for the notion of the combine being the deciding factor for me, I wanted to say that it was not. As I have previously stated, I drew my opinion from watching him play in live games against good competition. The combine only confirmed my assessment that Gerald McCoy is not as strong as he should be for his size. I will not be happy if we pick him……we need an immediate impact player at pick 2.
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+1
Not even top 10 for me.
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
Wilson
watchin the Combine the CB we all love just benched a WHOPPING 25!! I love this kid who ever gets him is gonna have a great DB.
The best there is, The best there was, and the best there ever will be - Bret the Hitman hart
Yup....
….no way he falls to 2nd round but who knows.
by BennieBladesFan on Mar 2, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be willin to trade backup into the 1st
I and I am a stron advocate of not trading up because of the loss of picks. This kid is special though at a need we are DESPERATE at.
The best there is, The best there was, and the best there ever will be - Bret the Hitman hart
Yes, you read that right......Kyle Wilson had MORE bench reps than Gerald McCoy!
ROFLMAO!
Kyle Wilson is special. Vindication is sweet. Doubly so in this case. ROFLMAO!
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
We will have to trade back into rd 1 to get Wilson......
Unfortunate, but the kid has “it”.
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any word
of the restricted free agents… I’m dying to know… GRRRRR
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
if anybody stays
Hunter is a lock!!!!
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
hope so
I like hunter I think he will grow into a solid DE for us
The best there is, The best there was, and the best there ever will be - Bret the Hitman hart
Something to think about.
Now I gotta admit I’ve never herd of this Mayock or Maylock/mylanta or what ever his name is, but Mel(I talk to much) Kiper is a legit knowledge when it comes to knowing collage kids. That’s all the guy does is watch film and pick apart their strengths and weeknesses, while I don’t always agree with him and his flunkie, these guys have a lot more time to watch all these guys (some that I’ve never herd of before) and footage that we never get to see, so when these idiots talk they do at least have some kind of educated opinion.
personally
Mayock is lightyears better than Kiper. He called Andre Smith last year and Hayward-bey he is almost alwyas right on the money every year as far as what a team is getting with someone. You have to have NFL net to see Mike Mayock though. Kiper is a joke in my opinion.
The best there is, The best there was, and the best there ever will be - Bret the Hitman hart
Yeah Kiper is a schmuck
He had his time a while back, but definitely is a homer for players he likes. Mayock has solidified himself as the main guy as far as the draft goes, although I don’t put a hell of a lot of stock in anything any of these guys say.
It’s all a business.
Lets face it
If Any Draft analyst was decently good time in and time out one would have to ask then … why are they not GM on a football team?
Yah I’m waiting for/looking for any word on the FA’s … who stays who goes … its fun.
What if~~
We trade # 2 to seatle for #6  i think possibly Mckoy at 6 then Wilson at 14.or trade down a couple of spots out of 14 to draft Wilson and get more picks.
Cory Smith
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