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Nate's Dream Draft


I know I've been posting a lot lately guys... Unemployment and boredom have come together with draft season to turn me into a monster. I've just been thinking about the difference between reality and idealism, and I usually attempt to advocate realism... However, lately, I've been thinking of what I personally would make up the best case scenario for the draft, and this is loosely what I've come up with (although I have attempted to keep a modicum of realism intact). I decided to only cover the first 4 rounds, with a quick pick in round 5 because I'm not extremely knowledgeable about college football. So bear with me, and let me know if you'd be on board with this!

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Round One, Pick #2

Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

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Yeah, I think I'm pretty well known as an Eric Berry homer, and I would absolutely love to get him. But the facts are the facts: we have the #2 overall pick. It's looking like Sam Bradford will be a Ram, and if that is the case, unless we have something extraordinary to gain via a trade, you have to take your man. I've preached that drafting Berry would be an 'exponential draft pick', with Delmas and Berry elevating each other's play so much that you're getting extra value from the selection. With the recent additions of Corey Williams and Kyle VandenBosch, I feel the same way about the defensive line. Obviously, with our first pick, we can't lose. Last year we drafted #1 overall, and got our offensive leader. Now we draft our defensive stud, our Albert Haynesworth, our Ray Lewis... and visions of NFC North QBs being planted into the turf are dancing in our heads.

 

Honorable Mention: Eric Berry, S, Tennessee - I don't need to go into detail why I feel this is a great pick, but I will say that the impact made by drafting Berry over Okung and going for OL later in the draft (OL being a much deeper pool than DB in this draft) would definitely be better in this case.

 

Round 2, Pick #34

Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State

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OK, before you guys start commenting about how "Kyle Wilson won't be there at 34!!!" and all that, let me just say that this pick is partially in hopes that Haden dropping in the rankings (along with the emergence of a couple other safety prosepects) pushes Wilson back far enough to us, or in the more likely scenario that he won't fall, that Schwartz and Mayhew swing something to trade up and take him. Wilson is neck in neck (in my opinion) for the #1 CB in the draft, and if we get Suh, I really feel like we HAVE to grab him. Trade this pick with Julian Peterson to New England or something. Whatever we've got to do, and I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for the FO to make this happen.

 

Honorable Mention: Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida - I'm sure people will flip a nut over this one too. At the top of the 2nd, grabbing a guy who at one point was touted as the best DE in the draft would be a steal, attitude concerns or not. I trust our coaching staff to get the most out of this guy. At worst, we get Kalimba Edwards, round two, and at best we get Julius Peppers. Sometimes you have to take a risk, and this is a risk worth taking, in my opinion.

 

 

Round 3, Pick 66

Mike Johnson, OG, Alabama

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Helping pave the way for the 3rd sophomore to ever win a Heisman trophy is one thing. Being versed in every position on the offensive line is another. Mike Johnson is a classic 'road grater' type guard, with great size (6'6", 305 lbs) and could step in at guard for us from day one. A two-tine consensus All-American, Johnson went into college with a 4.0 GPA, showing he has a fair amount of discipline.

 

 

Round 4, Pick 97

Myron Rolle, S, Florida State

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No safety outside of Louis Delmas is a player I would be totally comfortable with just handing the job to. Rolle is an interesting story, has an NFL pedigree, and would be a great pick in the 4th round as a consolation prize for not netting Eric Berry. He is also the requisite pick for non-Berry guys in the Pride.

 

Honorable Mention: Ben Tate, RB, Auburn - I'm not really all about taking a running back, especially in the earlier half of the draft, but I do like what I've seen from Tate. Really the best running back available would be a better fit here, but I think Tate will be available around this range.

 

 

In round 5, I would opt for selecting the polarizing Oregon RB LeGarrette Blount, with honorable mention going to Boston College C Matt Tennent. I have a lot of faith that our coaching staff can take players and improve them greatly, as evidenced by their attending Adam Jones' phyiscal/tryout/whatever this week, and thus am not all that scared of Blount. I really like Tennent, and think his size and ability would be great for our project o-line.

So ultimately, I think in the first 5 rounds we end up with some pretty decent grabs. On one hand (the 'main' draft, if you will) we end up with everyone's favorite Cornhusker anchoring our line and defense, the consensus favorite CB, a starting-caliber guard to fill that hole, and Myron Rolle, brain surgeon extraordinaire, to go along with the troubled LeGarrette Blount. On the other, we get the darkhorse candidate Eric Berry, a boom-or-bust Carlos Dunlap, our guard, a solid, touted RB, and a player who can possibly be groomed to replace the now aging Dominic Raiola.  I did write these up to be complementary, with there being a main draft and an honorable one, but any mix of these picks are ones I would love. I think a draft like this would be fantastic, and set us up for quite a bit of future success down the road.

 

What do you think?

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You basically nailed the Lions 5 major draft needs

of DT, G/LT, RB, CB, and SS, so I like it. Very nice draft.

by Trysdor on Mar 20, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

pretty good

I like your draft except as you probably know by now I like Okung number one LOL but agree with you that Berry and Delmas would be, on paper, one of the best tandems around.

by mister nattydred on Mar 20, 2010 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I really think....

….Delmas and Rolle will be a fine saftey combo….Some other guys may be better but that dude is smart.

by BennieBladesFan on Mar 20, 2010 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Lot of good safeties this year

I think Berry wrecks the competition, but I’m crossing my fingers that we draft one of them this year.

by Nate D. on Mar 20, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

my biggest problem with rolle is he will be a very early retire.. i think like 28 at the latest

he seem to want to be a doctor or something more then a football player.. but you are right he is very good

by det32 on Mar 20, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like your first pick, but after that........

I don’t see any possibility that Kyle Wilson is available at # 34. Really. After Joe Haden’s pro day workout [4.43 40] he is scooting back up the boards. Devin McCourty is a reasonable alternate to Wilson who just might be available at # 34. McCourty is every bit as fast as Haden and Wilson and is a special teams demon as well. He has blocked seven kicks in his college career and is a great gunner on the punt coverage teams. This shows me that the kid is a great tackler and that he has a great mentality regarding effort and team playing. Schwartz had a good look at McCourty at the Senior Bowl too.

Mike Johnson has been described as a zone blocking type Guard. I understand we don’t want that. How about John Jerry or Vlad DuCasse or Rodger Saffold? One of those should be around at the top of the third round. If not a Guard there will be a few excellent safeties like Reshad Jones or Darrell Stuckey around here.

I don’t like Myron Rolle at all. Too slow and [I’ll steal GRL’s thunder] does not fit the system of two freesafeties. If you want a Safety in the fourth round how about Major Wright? Or even TJ Ward? They are much more in line with what the Lions are apparently looking for.

I like your post though. Good photos. I gotta try that sometime.

by NorthLeft12 on Mar 20, 2010 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Go figure, haha

I thought my statement of intent regarding moving up to get Wilson if we didn’t think he’d be available at #34 would be sufficient. I don’t necessarily believe he’ll be there either, but there is a decent possibility, and as I said, if Haden comes off earlier than I expect, we can move up for him. I personally would rather have my guy than someone who’s comparable but not on par.

I haven’t really heard that about Johnson, but I think for the location in the draft and the talent level, he fits. I don’t know why people seem to have the belief that once a player has played 3 or 4 years in college a certain way, it’s totally impossible and pointless to attempt to change his ways. Johnson was a key component in that Alabama O-Line, and I think a guy with that type of ability is flexible enough to fit the scheme. I don’t want anything to do with John Jerry’s 8 on the Wonderlic (yes, I do put stock into it) and DuCasse has been described as having poor technique, being ‘raw’ and ‘unfinished’ with a lot of upside. If we need this guy to contribute NOW (which we do), that’s the last thing I want.

I don’t remember hearing anywhere that we specifically are looking for a 2nd free safety. I know that we instituted a system of left safety/right safety, but by no means does that mean they have to fit a specific mold, at least as far as I can tell.

Love the in-depth feedback though, part of what makes this community such a bastion for me and my Lions fandom.

by Nate D. on Mar 20, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate, I will leave it to GRLion to cover that issue.

I believe Gunther and Schwartz have described it in some detail.

Yeah, I know what you mean about DuCasse. I thought our new coaches would “coach him up” in record time. LOL. I understand what you are saying about someone who can step in right now. That is what I want too.

by NorthLeft12 on Mar 20, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I don't want to move up for anybody. We cannot afford it........yet.

I think McCourty will be the steal of the draft at # 34. I hope he is there.

by NorthLeft12 on Mar 20, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about jahvid best at #34?

he should be there and would be a change of pace from smith…….of course they need to take best available D at every pick….

by kingdaddylions on Mar 20, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I am soooooooo anti-best

I think Gerhart in the 3rd, Tate in the 4th, or Starks in the 5th is a better way to go.

I want a CB/OG/OT/DL with the 2nd pick.

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by CapitolLions on Mar 21, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Best is an amazing, explosive runner.

I really like him paired up with KSmith. Kevin is the third down back and can still step in and take the load at times to spell Best. I am a little worried about his concussion history. Although from what I understand he did it to himself on a TD dive.

by NorthLeft12 on Mar 20, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best disappears in big games...

I have watch him play alot at Cal. I dont like him in the second or third round. And I would question his pass blocking ability.

if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin

by JCruize on Mar 20, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is a horrible blocker from what I have read.

But then so are a lot of these college RBs. They just don’t have to.

by NorthLeft12 on Mar 20, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

they only need him to be one dimensional

he wouldnt have to be an every down back….and his one dimension is, fast

by kingdaddylions on Mar 20, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I am reading that now Wilson is a 1st rounder for sure.

In fact, on ESPN the other night they had Wilson going #17 to San Fran.

by lionsfan85 on Mar 20, 2010 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Love the dream Nate

But it’s time to realize that most of it is just that…..a dream….lol

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by KDawg on Mar 20, 2010 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Which parts?

I don’t really see much of anything that’s that ridiculous in this

by Nate D. on Mar 20, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson will be gone by the 2nd round

If he falls to us the football gods will be smiling upon us

by msivits on Mar 20, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delmas fall...Hell lets make 2 years in a row

if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin

by JCruize on Mar 20, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delmas fell?

Delmas was projected as a late 1st, early 2nd rounder. We picked him at that very spot.

However, I understand your point. Yes, players can fall, but it is really dependent on “shake-ups” in the draft. You can only learn about those on draft day.

by lionsfan85 on Mar 21, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we didn't take Delmas he would have gone on the next pick to NE

100% sure since they too Pat Chung after a 5 minute wait…they usually pick in seconds when they are on the clock.

They reached for Chung

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by CapitolLions on Mar 21, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually he fell after the pro days were done. and some of the others players moved up.

But on Mayock and Kiper’s big board( with about a month before the draft) Delmas was project as a mid-1st rounder. I should have clarified my response further. But my main point is: players fall.

if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin

by JCruize on Mar 21, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Wilson will be a mid first rounder too...

I guess I shouldn’t have said “most”? I am not too sold on Mike Johnson or Myron Rolle either, and I think they might be a reach in rounds 3 and 4 respectively. Move them both down one round, and then I might be more comfortable with it (even though it may be uncertain they would fall, I think we can get equivalent players in the 4th and 5th round).

IDK…I’m pretty tired. I might be talking out of the side of my neck right now.

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by KDawg on Mar 20, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can live with that

As I said in my psuedo-disclaimer, I’m not 100% familiar with some of the deeper rounds of the draft. The way I saw it, I felt Mike Johnson was a 3rd-4th rounder and Rolle was a 4th-5th rounder, so rather than sit back and wait (and ultimately, probably get criticized for a guy not being there ;) ) I took the player.

Once again, we’re right on the same page, Dawg.

by Nate D. on Mar 21, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did not comment on Dunlap because I understand your thinking.

I just don’t like the idea of taking a risk, this year, with a second round pick. Number thirty-four at that!

I like Best or McCourty or someone who has unexpectedly slipped out of the first round……and does not have the effort concerns that Dunlap has.

by NorthLeft12 on Mar 20, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems ok

Wilson probably won’t be there and Rolle could probably be picked in round 5 or 6. Personally, I’d rather Tate. On the whole, it’s a decent mock.

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by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 20, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the draft Nate!

but lets face it…we wont be drafting at pick #34, too many teams are going to want “their guy” that just fell out of the first round. Mayhew will have about 20 hrs to put together another lopsided trade.

by msulion10 on Mar 20, 2010 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Happy

If we had this draft we would all be happy. I especially hope that we pick up Rolle. Intelligence is not a detriment to football, especially at the Safety position.

by Lions-fan-SLC on Mar 21, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Not a horrible draft but...

I can’t see WIlson as being available in the second, I don’t like trading up for that, and McCourty gives us the same thing (and we don’t need a DE, we have 3 that we could potentially start and not get destroyed).

Johnson is a good choice, though if we went Guard, why not John Jerry of Mississippi? He might fit what we want better.

by Mister Gloom on Mar 21, 2010 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

We are not asking the guy to be our QB, Nate.

I understand that Delmas was only slightly better than Jerry [12 I think] and he seems to be working out quite well.

by NorthLeft12 on Mar 21, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless

Give me two players have marginal differences in skill level, who have vastly different scores in an intelligence test, and I will take the more intelligent.

Not to mention, as I said, Johnson played 4 out of 5 positions on an offensive line that paved the way for a sophomore RB to win the Heisman. I want a guy like that on my team.

by Nate D. on Mar 21, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Nate

However, if the difference between getting Johnson or Jerry is a 4th or 5th round pick, I will take the 5th rounder in John Jerry.

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by KDawg on Mar 21, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't think

Jerry is gonna make it to the fifth; there are too many teams that need o-linemen. He could go as early as the third.

by motown313 on Mar 21, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be

But on that same notion, so could Mike Johnson

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by KDawg on Mar 21, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

There wiil be better linemen on the board then Johnson at 66. Jerry, Mitch Petrus, Marshall Newhouse, Jon Asamoah. All these guards will be there, and all are better IMO.

by motown313 on Mar 21, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally

I do not like any of the guards in this draft before round 4…..lol. I am not even sold on Iupati anymore, after the poor Senior Bowl showing.

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by KDawg on Mar 21, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The kid from Texas Tech?

Yeah, I think he could be a steal in the 4th or 5th round…lol. I still do not know why he got suspended and stripped from being a captain of the team, other than the fact that he “violated” some team rule.

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by KDawg on Mar 21, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea i didnt know that. still like him

he is 6.7 330 find me anther LG that big.. imagen if we got him and the traded our 2n round pick to ravens for LT Jared Gaither who is 6,9 330.. now thats not a line thats a fucking wall

to bad dom is only lke 4 feet 100 pounds

by det32 on Mar 21, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

He was suspended indefinitely right after the loss to Houston last year…

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by KDawg on Mar 21, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I agree

Him and Gaither would likely instantly improve our O-line by leaps and bounds.

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by KDawg on Mar 21, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

don"t like blount or adam jones for that matter

But overall I have to say its probably one of my fav drafts so far.

How do you keep a running back out of your secondary? You put up a LEVY.

by The Profiler on Mar 21, 2010 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Provided there are no trades this is my 5 round dream draft.

Round 1: Russell Okung, LT: The best LT in the draft can step in day one and protect Stafford for the rest of his career. It also allows Backus to slide to LG to fill another need. And of course I feel that improving the offensive line is as exponential as you will get. It will help the pass game, run game, and defense.

Honorable mention: Gerald McCoy DT: I really like McCoy better than Suh. He not only seems to be more explosive and disruptive but smarter too. The only knock on him was bench reps and that can be taken care of in training.

Round 2: Jared Odrick DT: A solid starter with all pro potential in the 2nd round. at 6’ 5" he ha room to grow into his frame more even though he is already listed at 304.

Honorable mention: Chris Cook CB: This corner has size to handle the other teams big receivers and could slide to safety if he dont have the ball skills for a starting corner.

Round 3: Donovan Warren CB: I know its a bit of a homer pick but I think this guy has a lot of upside. He only played corner a season and had experience at safety to go along with being Rod Woodson’s cousin. Talk about pedigree.

Honorable Mention: Selvish Capers OT: Someone that might surprise people and come in to take a RT starting spot and eventually be able to move over to LT with some experience.

Round 4: Brandon Ghee CB: One of those boom or bust picks. On the upside he could have the ball skills of a Dre Bly, on the downside a Keith Smith.

Honorable Mention: Toby Gerhart RB: Fullback body with running back speed, and he can catch too! Whats not to love there.

Round 5: Lagarett Blount RB: Sorry I just have a 4th to 5th round man crush on this guy. Before his incident he would have been a 1st round pick and could end up being the most dominant back in the draft. Totally worth a chance. Plus I think we need more guys that will bitch slap a guy for shooting his mouth off after a loss :)

Honorable Mention: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB: Not only is he a fast corner but a dynamic return man.

I know some people will think that these guys may not make it to the rounds i have them selected in. For that I point out that I used http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/features/draftmachine/ I project Odrick and Dunlap to slide to round two due to reaches by Oakland for Bruce Campbell and one of the QB needy teams reaching for Claussen.

by Evilsmurf on Mar 21, 2010 4:30 AM EDT reply actions  

3-4 CBs drafted?

I mean, I would like one drafted, and love 2…but more than that is too much considering the holes we need to fill.

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by CapitolLions on Mar 21, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 21, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overall, I like what you did.

I too would like to move up in this draft (from #34), I know it’s a deep draft, I particularly feel that it’s deep at the top, so maybe we could move a decent player or a pick for this year and maybe a couple for next year (which there may not even be…) and chances are that next years draft, if there is one, won’t be as rich in talent. I don’t want to get into specifics about who I would want to move and what picks I’d be willing to give up, because that takes too much effort. But last year was really exciting having a top pick and a mid-late rounder.

by FMFDOC8404 on Mar 21, 2010 5:04 AM EDT reply actions  

if lions pick okung with 2pick in the draft and can get odrick or dunlap with thier 2rdpick and with 3rd pick get a cb like ghee and pick up a rb like ben tate in 4rd and in 5rd darrell stuckey at ss and bpa inthe 7rd the lions would have thier best draft in ten years.

by kwfords on Mar 21, 2010 6:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Antonio Brown

with the next pick and I will be all right with that draft!!!

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by CapitolLions on Mar 21, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I will be very happy if we draft crazy eyes.....lol

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by KDawg on Mar 21, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suh@2!!!

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, Suh is a player who simply dominates the center of the line. He has a never-ending moter and does not quit on plays. The argument about the money is irrelevant. Suh is a freakin’ beast. Okung average at best. Joe Thomas/Jake Long he’s not. IMHO, draft the franchise LT in 2011.

by mrclandesto on Mar 21, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

I think we would be best suited to draft our future LT next year. If Suh is there at pick 2, I think it should be automatic. If not, and we can not trade down, then I think we should strongly consider over paying Eric Berry. However if Suh goes #1, then the possibility of us drafting Okung increases exponentially if we can not trade down. This would be a simple matter of economics at that point, even though I think the obvious BPA would be Eric Berry.

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