Pacman Jones' Agent: "Nothing's Imminent"
by Sean Yuille on Mar 26, 2010 4:36 PM EDT
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PrintI think it's safe to say that Pro Football Talk's report that Pacman Jones has agreed to a deal with the Lions is inaccurate, to say the least. Tom Kowalski had sources calling it "way off base" right after the story was posted, signaling that it probably wasn't correct. That became more evident when other outlets chimed in with sources saying that Jones and the Lions had not agreed to a deal. The ultimate confirmation that there was no deal in place came from Jones' agent, who made it clear that while something is possible in the future, there are no developments on the contract front right now.
At least three teams, -- the Detroit Lions, San Francisco 49ers and Cincinnati Bengals -- have expressed "great interest" in the troubled cornerback, though no signing was imminent, agent Ray Savage said Friday.
Savage said he hoped to set up in-person visits with those teams in the near future.
"Nothing's imminent, and I'm hopeful to schedule visits here in the next week or two," said Savage, whose comments came two days after Detroit coach Jim Schwartz said the Lions were "definitely interested" in signing Jones.
Here's more from Jones' agent:
"It was like, ‘Huh?’ " Savage said. "We have a couple trips scheduled to a couple teams. I talked to Martin, and I talked to the Detroit Lions, and there is interest. They’re kind of dragging their feet a little bit. I’m trying to get them a little bit more information so they can make this thing happen. But we’ve not talked numbers or anything yet."
So why did PFT report that Jones had agreed to terms with the Lions? Caution, you are about to enter the spin zone.
As we've heard it, via NBC Sports Digital G.M. Rick Cordella's intel gathering in Las Vegas, an agreement has been struck, and the Lions will announce it on Tuesday. We've spoken to Cordella again, and we stand by the report.
But here's the thing. We wouldn't rule out the possibility of the Lions delaying the announcement, now that word has leaked. Also, if Jones hasn't already signed a contract and if the Lions think that the leak traces to him and not them, the Lions might decide not to proceed.
My first response to reading the above quote was this:
Although Pacman Jones' agent isn't exactly the most reliable source in the world considering the 49ers have come out and said they do not have interest in Jones, which is contrary to what his agent said in one of the quotes above, Florio is clearly trying to spin this into his story not being inaccurate.
It's entirely possible that Jones could agree to a deal with the Lions at some point, but this supposed delay is not going to be the result of word leaking out early about a potential deal. The delay will be because the Lions haven't had enough time to complete their evaluation process, which will include a face-to-face meeting with Jones. To say that a deal might not happen because word leaked out is nothing more than spin and Florio's weak attempt to save face.
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So, Florio expects us to believe that the Lions' story goes like this:
Mayhew:
“We were going to sign a talented player to help improve our defense, and we had an agreement in place, buuuuuut we think there was a leak, and we think the player or his agent leaked it, so we’re not actually going to sign him anymore, even though we wanted him.”
What’s more likely
1. The PFT story of an “imminent signing” was horse shit to begin with,
or
2. The PFT story was true—there really was an agreement between the Lions and Pac Man, but Mayhew freaked out that the signing was leaked a few hours early, so he decided to cancel the whole deal.
um…
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i commented to mike the same way.... nice take
GO LIONS in 2010! the transformation starts now.. they have much to do.
I think we need to spark an inter-site beef with Florio
Beginning with our own segments of inaccurate random NFL facts
i'll grab my pitchfork...
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by DrewMoney$$$ on Mar 26, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Floor E O needs to change his diet.
He is always drinking too much hater-aid and eating too many frownies against the Lions. Almost every single article he writes about the Lions there is a negative comment in it. Inter-site beef sounds good. Everyone should email PFT’s CEO and call for his head.
Reminds me of some of the announcers last year
The guy with the man crush on Quinn or about any other team we played, i think the same announcers were in one of the Vikings game with his AP love. Never a good comment for the lions. Well cant really blame them though i wish for better announcers next year
by Liontotheextreme on Mar 26, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Florio..
is the ceo, well, he sold it to NBC, but he has all creative/publishing rights still.
by lions_sucker on Mar 26, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
He is really really biased. I would of never thought.
by topherclosson on Mar 26, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose that's the problem with the rumour business
You’re gonna make calls sometimes which don’t work out.
"Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind." - Pride Leader, Sean Yuille, wielder of the Ban Hammer.
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Yeah,,,
I’m gonna go ahead and believe NBC this time…
However, I think it would be COMPLETELY retarded if there were a deal in place and it got nixed because of a leak. I could understand it if a player was fined or suspended for leaking sensitive info to the press, but if the alleged leak was from an excited player (or his agent) and it was pertaining to the imminent possibility of being signed by a team? Come on…that is about as ridiculous as you can get in my opinion.
I believe there WAS a deal in place, and I DO NOT have ANY faith in Killer’s sources. The Lions are doing the smart thing…they are not commenting. That way, they will not lose face by saying “No…there is no deal in place and there are no pending developments” and then turning around and announcing a deal the next day. If they did plan to announce the deal tomorrow, then they could still move ahead with it if wanted to, and the only person who would look like a liar is Savage. If they wait a week or so now, because of the possible leak, then everyone could save face. I believe this is how it will play out.
What really gets me is that I got all excited about finally signing someone with talent, only to have some ass clown ruin my day.
Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!
Problem is
Killer wasn’t the only one reporting that nothing was happening. Free Press and News had similar stories up based on “league sources.”
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by Sean Yuille on Mar 26, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
So who's "league sources" are more reliable??
I’m not a fan of Florio by any means. I never go to NBC or CBS for sports info, but I also NEVER go to Mlive for it either. Once in a great while I will read the Freep, but I do not like their writers either, and I think that too often they put their own own personal opinion into their “statements of fact”. Strangely, I feel that the original report here was the truth. I don’t know why, but everything that came after the “leak” seemed to be a load of BS to me. Oh well…right or wrong, nothing is happening now, so all we can do is wait and see how it plays out.
Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!
Well Florio's source was some NBC guy who overheard something
In that regard I think the local writers have a better pulse on team sources.
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by Sean Yuille on Mar 27, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
that owl pic is my new favorite thing
Also, I think the major lesson that we learned from the Houston trade and the coordinated KVB/Burleson lovefest from Schwartz and Linehan is that this front office is seriously sneaky, and very tight lipped. I don’t think they’re petty, for sure, but I do think they might use this as an opportunity to tweak the deal in their favor. I 100% think it was someone in pacman’s posse that “leaked” it, but I don’t think it’ll actually stop them from getting a deal done. Really, I just think it’s going to shorten his already short leash once he joins the team.
Good point
You may very well be right.
Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!
Florio also proclaimed Terry Bradshaw dead
on little more than a whisper in the wind… and he notoriously can’t spell or put together real sentences. That said, he breaks a ton of stories (probably based on little to no fact checking)… I’ll keep reading PFT, and i’ll keep taking everything he writes with a large grain of salt.
Here's my take...
IF there is a “deal”, it is likely that the deal is limited thus far to the financial structure of the contract.
IF Mayhew and the agent agreed to terms, it is likely that it is contingent on a face to face meeting with Mayhew and Gym Shorts and their final thumbs up.
John Niyo blogged that San Fran isn’t interested, and that Cincy worked him out in February and wasn’t impressed apparently due to his conditioning at the time.
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This really made me look like a dick, after I posted this on facebook…………Sean, please never use PFT ever again in a post, this really made me look like an ass………….
Yeah...
I called my best friend, all excited…and then this crap.
Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!
sorry I missed your call
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Maybe PFT was right...
The NFL clarifies that Pac-Man is officially welcome….
The NFL sent Jones’ agents, Ray Savage and Tom Hunter, an e-mail notifying them their client was free to sign with and play for any team he wants this season.
Some teams had questions about whether Jones would be able to play for them after Jones was reinstated in 2008 but spent last season out of football.
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you use the quotation marks next to 'bold, italicize, strikeout'
it makes what you write in between the tags a ‘block quote’
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by GhostManOnThird on Mar 29, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
see
"Football isn't a contact sport, it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport."
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by GhostManOnThird on Mar 29, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
ahh, got it.
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