William James to Visit Seahawks
by Sean Yuille on Mar 6, 2010 3:14 PM EST
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PrintLarry Foote isn't the only free agent starting to make his post-Lions plans. Earlier today it was reported that Foote has lined up visits with the Redskins and Cardinals, and now Pro Football Talk is reporting that fellow free agent Williams James will also be heading west for a visit -- to Seattle.
It was once thought that the Lions were going to bring James back based on the comments of some people from the team, but then we learned on Thursday from his agent that a deal before the start of free agency was unlikely. To me that still left the door open for a return since none of the Lions' free agents were re-signed before March 5, but now that James is ready to visit another team, I'd say he's probably gone.
Obviously nothing is certain one way or the other when it comes to the Lions' free agents, but you would think that if Detroit wanted to bring back someone like William James that it would get a deal done long before he was ready to visit another team. After all, the Lions have no depth at corner right now, so for it to get to the point where James is scheduling visits with other teams, I'm just assuming Detroit has decided to not bring him back.
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Later James.........lol
With us letting all of our decent corners go and I use the term “decent” loosely; I have to imagine we are targeting some better corners whether it be through FA or the draft.
yep
James made some plays, and blew some plays. I doubt Schwartz wants that kind of inconsistency in his secondary. The bar is set higher.
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
Well if there was any doubt before....
it is very clear now. The Lions will be using a multitude of picks in the draft to get secondary help. I can see maybe dropping down in the 2nd to pick up an extra pick. With a deep draft. It would be a great approach.
if the shoe fits...get another one just like it - George Carlin
There was no doubt here
Berry/Wilson looks more likely than ever now to be in their plans (even if Mayhew has to trade up 5 spots to #29 to get that “special player” before the Vikings).
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
One by one, the pieces of the puzzle continue to fall into place.......
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
James and Buchanon gone
Out of Henry, Hobbs, and Faggins we’ll probably only bring 1 back if any. That leaves King, Smith, and maybe Jack Williams as the only CBs on the team right now. Pretty thin.
by WestsideLionsFan on Mar 6, 2010 3:39 PM EST reply actions
I was hoping
We would sign him… I guess MM has big plans for corners in the draft
I really like wislon… Doubt he falls to us in the second round though
by tigers4ever on Mar 6, 2010 3:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
King and Jack Williams have some promise
Since we really didnt get a good look at them last year. I would have liked to see keeping either James or Buchanon, to have some experiance from last year
by momentumchange on Mar 6, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
We have 1 starter in our secondary right now
That is pretty scary. They flat out have to bring people in, or draft three DBs in the first three rounds. Left guard is the only other position on the team where we don’t have a starter, but missing three players in the secondary? Sheeeeeiiit…..
fu ck
it our 2ndary sux. this year we win 4 games next year we fix it. this is a long term affair. I am sick of losing. however. whatever it takes to make us 8-8 I am happy for
I have a 9" personality
by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 7, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
IMO the other safety is not as big of a need
We could afford to let Ko Simpson, Marvin White, and Bullocks or whoever else battle it out in training camp and probably get by with one of those guys next year. However, CB is DEFINITELY a huge concern!!
by WestsideLionsFan on Mar 7, 2010 3:56 AM EST up reply actions
hell
ya it’s a need. but we also need to get the right guys. I hate the best corner available crap. just get tallent anywhere in the draft! wherever we can get the best player left get him. we aren’t winning the division this year. just get good football players at corner who play hard in free agency. we can’t take 3 corners in 1 draft. unless you see players I don’t who will be starters.
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by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 7, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
I have to assume they have a plan
That they are seeing some secondary/db talent in the draft that they think others are overlooking. They are either thinking we can get 2 starters from the draft or we will trade for one in the coming weeks and draft for the other.
I am starting to wonder if all the movement on the Dline means they are not taking Suh/McCoy and we are going to see Berry. Or maybe it means they are blitzing.
+1
The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 6, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
+2, both
We’re taking Berry, and we HAVE been blitzing……just not as much as Gunther had initially planned, due to the ease with which opposing QB’s completed quick passes against our DB’s when blitzed. Getting Berry, Wilson, etc. allows us to blitz more, with less fear of getting burned…….because we’ll have guys back there who can actually cover tight against quick passes.
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
seems more likely than ever
Suh is still a option no doubt but with the corey williams trade. It would seem as if there preparing to not draft him.
The best there is, The best there was, and the best there ever will be - Bret the Hitman hart
by The Profiler on Mar 7, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
We are definitely targeting corners in the draft...
The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
corners and a safety
Eric Berry, Kyle Wilson, Devin McCourty, Earl Thomas, and Darrell Stuckey are the most likely tagets if available.
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
to bad we don't play them again
The guy can cover for SH** LOL. No skin off are backside. He is not better than a 4th CB
The best there is, The best there was, and the best there ever will be - Bret the Hitman hart
James
I actually thought he would make a good nickel back. I don’t think he was starting material though. We better sign someone because we always have injuries.
don't let the door hit you in the butt
this guy is a special teams player at best. can’t cover can’t tackle .
Targeting Corners-
If Schwartz’s comments to draft strategy mean anything, then their will be no targetting a position in the draft. You draft talent on a team that is so thin with talent. About the only position the Lions won’t be picking is at QB.
Targeting a position makes for overreaching for players and is a bad draft strategy. Let’s hope the Lions pull off a trade for a good CB or something prior to the draft. I can’t say I am unhappy to see James and Buchanon gone, but I wish it was after they had replaced them with someone better!
by Kirt-LionFaninGR! on Mar 7, 2010 7:35 AM EST reply actions
unless he someone signs with us
schwartz may have a hard time sticking with his gameplan going into the draft, knowing we don’t have 1 solid starting cb. i just don’t see how you pass that up for bpa.
"It doesn't matter what you want, it's what the front office wants, so stop complaining and go with the flow"
I agree-
The Lions are digging themselves into a hole to be sure. If you are going to have the strategy of BPA, then you can’t cut your starters. You have to upgrade. A great example is bring in Williams release Grady Jackson. I think they should pick up Sheppard. They should be able to get him at a bargain price.
by Kirt-LionFaninGR! on Mar 7, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
They should bring him back
It’s very unfortunate that the Lions are in such a horrendous position in the secondary where the actually NEED James. That has nothing to do with his talent and everything to do with panic. Right now, we have ZERO starter-capable players on the roster. Not even “bad starters”. The Front Office should be panicking right now. They need to pull off a major trade, sign Lito Shepherd AND draft someone in the first three rounds. Can you say “swiss cheese again in 2010”?
my only concern is
If we don’t get Jackson or Sheppard we may have a secondary of rookies I hate the idea of not having atleast one proven solid Vet back there. Delmas is a freak don’t get me wrong he isquicly one of my favorite players in the Leauge but he ain’t no vetran yet.
The best there is, The best there was, and the best there ever will be - Bret the Hitman hart
The Lions.....
may be simply allowing James to test the market so that he can get a feel for what other teams, if any, would pay him. They can still make him an offer and re-sign him…..but I think they might be trying to get him as cheap as possible, and his contract desires may be unreasonable at this point. Let him test the waters, see what he can get elsewhere, and then bring him back at just over the highest offer (unless the offer is insane).
Oh you didn't know?? You're ass better CALLLLLLLL SOMEBODY!!!!!
it's not like
James is going to demand a high market value either. I’m all for letting him get s taste of reality and the resigning him.
I have a 9" personality
by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 7, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
William James can play. And Leigh Bodden was the best corner we’ve had in years. People laughed when I said that. Then he went to NE and starred. Same thing happened with Andre Goodman. Why do guys go to other teams and become good starters when they sucked here…its called a D Line people. Get 1, and stop kicking out corners.
by TheOriginalVoice on Mar 7, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions
especially if you can get a
dynamic def line that can press off the edge, collapse the pocket, and keep a high motor. Do that and we won’t draft a “bad” corner for a while!
I have a 9" personality
by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 7, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
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