Yeah I was thinking that guys that had a (NA) ment that they were practice squad guys last year but It also had Corey Williams as an end and not a DT like we all figure he is going to be with our team. Reguardless good job showing the comparisions, Now how do you feel about doing the same thing for our O-line?

After you go and draft a franchise QB and 1 of the top 4LT’s was still there I can scream at them for not taking him. And then we would not be having all these arguements about Kong and Okung this year.

Then what ever I see dancing in circles around my head is what I say!!!!!!

So why won’t Eric Berry’s agent argue that when they discuss his contract?
If you guys are trying to sell the idea of picking Berry at #2 because he will be cheaper, I don’t think that argument will hold up. I don’t care how much they end up paying him. I want the Lions to pick the player that will improve our team the most. If that is Berry, fine, pick him. Same for Okung, McCoy, or Suh.

Safeties are undervalued because they are not as important to a defence as the other positions. Their average pay is only ahead of Kickers and Tight Ends. They are rarely picked early in the draft [last year no Safeties were selected in the first round. Delmas was the first one at #33, the year before the first one was selected at #31]. And someof them are cornerbacks that are too old and slow to cover anyone, so they put them at Safety. This may be changing, but I would still rather have a shutdown corner like Darrell Revis than a Safety like Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu. I don’t think there is any contest between their importance and impact on winning.

So I suppose it comes down to who the Lions think is the BPA at #2, and who they think is good that they can find in a later round. If they think Okung is the BPA that fits, they’ll take him and grab a safety like Darrell Stuckey in about the 3rd Round. On the other hand, if they think Eric Berry is the BPA, they will take him and get a LT later, unless they like Backus (which they apparently do), so then they would take Berry and get a LG later, which is a much bigger OL hole at the moment……..and we’re certainly not going to take an OG at #2. I’ve made my decision on who I think the Lions favor as the BPA who FITS.

From Schwartz:

“I’ve said before, we want to make sure we get the right person there, not necessarily lock into a particular position. The mistakes I’ve seen made in the NFL are ‘Hey, we have to draft a running back here,’ Or ‘We have to draft an offensive line or a quarterback.’ I think a better philosophy is to let your hand play out. Try to get the right player, not necessarily the right position.”

And first off no ill will taken bro. But you kind of made my point for me in your statement combined with mine; J Smith plays at what position???? Tackle yes thats right, Tackles are paid a higher dollar amount than safeties reguardless of team. I’m not saying that Berry isn’t going to get paid in full but his contract would/will be smaller than if we draft say Suh/McCoy/Okung assuming that he is even the best LT in the draft. I am curious what our sollar amount is compared to the rest of the league also, With Buchannon gone I don’t think we have any real money in our backfield. I just don’t see us paying top dollar for a LT when we seem to be happy with Sackus at least for 1 more year. I think that the problem with last years front line lays in 2 area’s, 1 our guard play was horrible which made our tackles look futile, We only had 1 real Rec on our team since B. Johnson and Northcut barely practiced with Stafford prior to the season starting last year. I see Guard being a bigger priority than Tackle on our team as well. I am on the Berry bandwagon and Kongs as well to me there is only 2 guys to pick from at the 2 spot, I just don’t thik that Okung is as good as past LT’s that came out of college. he’s good don’t misunderstand me, but not #2 good, that’s where Millan always screwed us taking guys earlier than they should have been drafted and I don’t think that this front office is going to overdraft guys at any one position just to say "hey look at us we took a LT " or “DT” or even safety for that matter. In my opinion they took the BEST PLAYERS AVAILABLE in last years draft and with as moany holes that are still on this roster I can’t see them not doing the same thing again this year, so again I see that there is only two guys too choose from and those 2 guys are Kong and Berry, now let me ask you this out of the 2 positions that I just mentioned which one has the lesser talent? SAFETY! Go get us that Berry flavored Kool-aid.

Exactly. We were trying to stick a round peg in a square hole. Bodden’s a very good cover corner in this league, but Detroit didn’t use him in that manner and it exposed how bad a good player can look in the wrong system. Hopefully the same logic holds true and Mayhew just traded for a gem in Corey Williams.

This is where our opinions diverge……I truly believe (as Kyle Vanden Bosch so aptly stated) that Ndamukong Suh can fit anywhere…..he is that good. KVB said that he is the best DT he has EVER seen in college…..now that is really saying something. I think if we passed on Suh at pick 2, that it would be insane. That said, I would not jump up and down screaming at the TV if we did, as long as we drafted Berry instead. I think Suh and Berry are the two “special players” of this draft, and regardless of draft position, player position, and all points relative, i think either player would suit our team just as well as the other.

you have to overpay when you have the no. 1 pick. However, we were smart to pick the highest-paying postion with it(QB), which makes his contract not as crazy-sounding as Berry’s would be.

Troy went down in the FIRST game of the season.