Lions Reportedly Set to Trade for Falcons Cornerback Chris Houston
by Sean Yuille on Mar 8, 2010 12:15 AM EST
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Basically a week after rumors about a trade involving Antonio Cromartie came to the forefront, the Lions are once again at the center of a report about acquiring a cornerback. This time the rumors focus on Atlanta Falcons cornerback Chris Houston, who is about to be traded to the Lions, according to Adam Schefter. This actually appears to be more than just a rumor considering Schefter said the trade is "expected to be completed Monday," but nothing is official quite yet.
If the trade does happen, Houston would be sent to Detroit for a sixth-round pick as well as a swap of fifth-rounders. All picks involved are for the 2010 draft, and below is an exact look at what each team would get.
Lions receive:
CB Chris Houston
18th pick of the fifth-round
Falcons receive:
2nd pick of the fifth-round
2nd pick of the sixth-round
This trade would have a pretty big effect on the final day of the draft for the Lions because they would lose a pick and move down in the fifth round. Even so, the Lions are in desperate need for cornerbacks, and when you consider that Chris Houston has started in 37 games in three seasons, I'd say it's worth it. From the Falcons' point of view, Houston became expendable with the signing of Dunta Robinson, who the Lions "pursued," per Adam Schefter. Also from the Falcons' perspective is this quick evaluation of Houston from Dave the Falconer of SB Nation's The Falcoholic.
For the price, you’re getting an awesome bargain. Houston has underachieved during his time in Atlanta and the rumors you heard about him not turning his head in coverage are true. But the physical tools are all there, and maybe a change of scenery will fix everything for you.
Houston brings a lot of positives to the table. He has starting experience, pretty good stats, and great speed. Besides that, he's an upgrade over anyone currently on the roster, so if this deal does in fact become official on Monday, then I will be pretty happy with it.
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And big ups to all of you for being all over this in the FanPosts section
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thats more picks
than I thought. If he is a starter I am cool with it. Are we talking a starter to this roster?
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by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 8, 2010 12:28 AM EST reply actions
He's young and a starter....
….better than any 5th or 6th rounder is LIKELY to become. Not that it couldn’t happen, but this is more of a sure shot at having something.
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Absolutely. In business they call that opportunity cost or replacement cost.
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I need more
of a description I AM a new guy
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by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 8, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Great pickup
we only move down 16 spots in the 5th round… another great deal.. for a starter.. he’s young, fast and has potential on a team that wants him….we lose a 6th yes but if they trade down in the 4th I bet they will get it back… way early to call on the second day… The Lions in my opinion have done the best in the off season or at least top 3 teams to improve the team
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He’s got the speed to fit this defense, and we’re essentially trading a 6th for him, and moving down in the 5th. It’s not like we’re “losing a 5th”. If we don’t make this deal, the alternative would possibly be drafting a CB with a 5th. He looks like better than what we could find in the 5th this year for a fast man corner. If we draft Eric Berry at #2 and Kyle Wilson or Devin McCourty with the next pick, we would still need another starting CB for the other side. If we make this deal, this takes the pressure off a bit, and we’ll only need to fill one CB slot from this draft.
Mayhew’s finding bargains, first Corey Williams (a steal) and now (maybe) Chris Houston. Don’t be fooled by the price. If we valued players solely by trade price……..well then Roy Williams must be an All-Pro in Dallas. ROFL.
I hate to believe rumors. Most end up being wrong. I hope this one is right.
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Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
lol
I almost dropped my coffee on my crotch when i read the first portion of hte trade (“2nd pick”)
The beginning of the end of the misery
As i've mentioned here in years past
They are my 2nd team as I lived in augusta for 5 years. Chris Houston would be a great pickup for what basically amounts to a 6th rounder and a few positions in the 5th.
While he wasn’t always the best in Atlanta, he has a lot of potential under the right coaching staff and I feel like we are getting him on the cheap, he wouldnt even have been available if they didn’t sign robinson. I think he is DEFINITELY an upgrade right now, and even would have been an upgrade over henry or buchanon after seeing them play last year.
This is another solid move and once again just makes me realize how piss poor Millen was.
He's 25, thats refreshing
From what ive read he has potential, especially playing with our Dominating D-Line we will have after the addition of Suh.
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I hear it is pending a physical this morning
It sounds like it is a 95% sure thing. I am very happy about this. Houston is one of the most physical CBs in this league, he reminds me of a young Al Harris. With some help from the safeties and the pass rush, he should have a great year with us. Another amazing trade by Mayhew.
This is a great move by our FO...
The Corey williams trade and now Houston. The draft picks we give up v. the talent that is coming in. It is very lopsided. In my opinion, we could not have used those picks. And brought in the potential talent, like we did with these trades. Add KVB and Burelson. Man, what a great offseason, already. I cant wait to see what Mayhew " The Mastermind" pulls off next.
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youre really
gonna push the mastermind thing aren’t you? lol
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by Waitingfortheroar on Mar 8, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
He was drafted in the second round in 2007.
Forty-first [#41] . So obviously, he was looked at as having a great deal of potential. I am not crazy about this trade as Atlanta is not very strong in the secondary, and them giving up a sometime starting CB who is only being paid $467K is a bit of a headscratcher. I know they signed Robinson and may still draft another CB with one of their first two picks, but I am not sure this guy will help us much. I guess we will see.
As always I will give the benefit of the doubt to our FO…………for now. LOL
they have a bunch of other CBs
that are young too, so Houston was really expendable. I guess hes one of those guys they would’ve let go of, if the Lions hadn’t asked for the trade
The beginning of the end of the misery
Good Value
with this trade. That’s two starting caliber guys we picked up with late round picks and Mayhew continues to impress. Did Millen just do the exact opposite of everything Mayhew reccomended?
Why?
…is Atlanta receiving so little for this guy, if he is indeed valuable?
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It's because
they just signed Dunta Robinson to a big, fat contract, making Houston expendable.
(And “valuable” is also a relative term here, in my opinion. Is he valuable in that he’s a pro-bowl player? No, probably not.
But is he valuable to the Lions in the terms that he’s better than what we had, and also well worth the value of our 6th round pick? I’d say yes.)
Because he underperformed in Atlanta...
much like the rest of their defense, which caused them to replace him and they wanted some form of compensation, this was all they could get because the lions knew they were desparate at this point to recoup something.
He’s got talent, but Atlanta has a knack for not getting the full potential from their defensive players, espcecially over the last 2-3 years..
Yes, he is valuable........Mayhew finds bargains and makes great trades
Don’t be fooled by the price. If we valued players solely by trade price……..well then Roy Williams must be an All-Pro in Dallas. ROFL.
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The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson, Houston......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
Wouldnt it be nice :?
To trade for Houston and find a speed CB (Patrick Robinson) in round 2 of the draft..The team speed would go up by leaps and bounds over last yr. Yes there are 2-3 other CBs i like more,but with a new “pressure” DLine ,we need speed cover guys to take away the quick slants and quick outs
You don't think McCourtey will be there at 34?
Or just don’t like him?
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Devin McCourty should be there at #34
Kyle Wilson could be, too. It’s all about specific teams. As of now, the 2 teams that look most likely to have interest in Wilson are the Texans at #20 and the Vikings at #30. If Schwartz really wants Wilson, moving up to #29 won’t be that hard. Moving up past the Texans, however, might be too far to go. We’ll have to sweat out that #20 pick. We should be able to get McCourty at #34 if Wilson’s gone, or maybe Wilson will be there too, and we’ll have our pick of the two.
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The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson, Houston......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
Houston wore out his welcome in Atlanta.
He’s shown flashes of talent, but we have too many other young corners that are simply progressing quicker than he is.
He’s NOTORIOUS for not playing the ball, causing him to repeatedly (REPEATEDLY) either keep running into receivers or, even worse, be unaware the ball is even near. When defending go routes, he is not just toast. He’s a piece of toast that broke off the bread and is stuck at the bottom of the toaster, becoming more and more toasted every time for all eternity.
Only once all year did he hold his guy under 60% attempts caught. Only 4 swats and 1 pick all year, though it was a game-sealing pick against Carolina. In 6 out of 11 games, passes thrown his way were worth a QB rating of over 95; in 8 of 11, over 80: http://www.profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&surn=Houston&playerid=3657&group=7
To put it mildly, he struggled.
He’s a good tackler and athlete, and he plays hard.
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by Jason Kirk on Mar 8, 2010 9:13 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Thanks bc for an excellent comment. I recced you.
I wondered why the Falcons would let a guy go so cheaply who is not paid much [$467K] and plays a position that your team is not deep in. I thought that even with Robinson and a high draft pick [I am thinking you guys might still go that way in the first or third round] he would have some value on the bench. At least more than a sixth round draft choice and an upgrade on your fifth round pick.
We are desperate for any secondary help so i am sure that Mr. Houston will get a very good shot to start for us. Thanks again.
Right. Maybe a change of scheme will be good for him. He has the physical skills.
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Agreed.
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agreed
Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson, Houston......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.
Still, that's better than what our corners managed for us
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Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 8, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
This is very very cheap for a young CB
That is not only an absolute up grade for us, but would be a #1 or #2 CB on almost any NFL team
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i think your overrate him a bit there.. i really dont se him as mcun of a up gard
he is more a new face.. something new to try
There are not many teams he'd start for. Our pass defense ranked 28th last year.
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So there's five teams he'd start for, I guess :)
28, 29, 30, 31, and 32.
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Great deal
I say we trade down… a couple of times. Say we split or 2nd overall into 2, 1st rounders. Trade with Seattle maybe. Then i would stay with are 14th and take are 6th and trade down again..maybe twice. If that happened we could take Mike Iupati at #14 say at #20 we could have Kyle Wilson. We would then have 3 2nd round pics for trading down. Take Robinson, Rolle and the Alabama big man..cant remember his name. We would be stout and from 3rd round down we could take skill players to help Stafford and or upgrade are line and add dept with BPA approach.
Hate to repost but no one is going to trade into the number 2 pick it doesn't happen anymore.
In the unlikely situation it does happen we will not get 2 firsts for it.
On the crontrary...
…I don’t believe there is any way they trade out of the 2nd overall pick WITHOUT getting at least 2 first rounders back. That doesn’t mean this is likely…
However, there are still several weeks of player evaluation before the draft including Pro Days that will give teams their first real look at any of the top QB’s in this draft. It may not be a matter of teams really wanting to trade up to get the guy they want, so much as fear that other teams may actually pull the trigger on an unlikely trade. The Lions may not have to give up their value at #2, just as long as other teams believe that there is a market for trading into that pick.
"Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer." -Mark Twain
Here
http://www.sportznutz.com/nfl/draft/draft_point_value_chart.htm
This is the point scale the NFL uses to rate value of picks when trading.
- = 2600
- 1600
- = 1100
Sorry for some reason that did not work out when i posted it. It shows #2 = 2600, # 6= 1600 and # 14 = 1100. In plenty of trade talks for the Lions #2 overall I have hurd two 1st rounders or multi picks for our #2. Regaurdless you can trade back up to get another 1st or 2nd rounder.
I get the trade chart says it makes sense but most teams dont rely on that as a true determination of value.
theory is irrelevant when it has never been practiced
What blows me away...
…is the level at which we’re forced to be excited now. I’m not going to criticize anyone for being excited over the Houston pickup, or Williams, or Burleson for that matter….I think you have every right to be excited. What I was thinking about after reading this though, was how valid that excitement is. The team was in such dissoray at the end of the 2008 season it is almost impossible not to upgrade this team with almost every aquisition. Outside of losing Larry Foote (which I will be extremely dissapointed by if/when it happens) this team shouldn’t have to lose any real talent this offseason, and should be able to upgrade everywhere.
"Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer." -Mark Twain
We always get excited
Sure, there will be a small period post-draft where people will complain about our picks, but that will pass and then the kool-aid will be flowing like a waterfall before the season starts. After that, who knows…
The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 8, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Any one hear anything on this trade ?
I have been reading on Falcon web sites that we are giving up our 2nd rounder and the trade on 5th rounder plus our 6th rounder !! Anyone have any better info, the site was more recent then this posting.
It's a 6th and a swap of 5ths
The Bringers of Hope: Stafford - Delmas - C. Johnson - Pettigrew - Levy - Hill - Schwartz
Zack Follett: he will hurt your mind.
by Hyperion Ecta on Mar 8, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
I liked Houston in Atlanta
He is not great, but still young and can improve
He did start most of the year for the Falcons
I think the Lions got a decent CB pretty cheap
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
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