Monday Notes: Examining the Albert Haynesworth Rumors

by Sean Yuille on Apr 12, 2010 1:29 AM EDT in Detroit Lions Notes

Shortly after Donovan McNabb was traded to the Redskins last week, lots of rumors started swirling about Albert Haynesworth. Specifically, the rumors suggested that Haynesworth could be dealt and that Washington tried to trade him as part of the McNabb deal. Naturally, the Lions' name came up in the rumors quite a bit because of Jim Schwartz's connection to Haynesworth. When you consider that the asking price for Haynesworth was only rumored to be around a second-round pick, you can imagine why rumors about Detroit's supposed interest quickly spread. The thinking was that the Lions could make a deal for Haynesworth, a proven defensive tackle, and then use their first-round pick on a different position.

Since the rumors reached their peak towards the end of last week, all has been pretty quiet on the Haynesworth front. That is partly because Adam Schefter reported that the Redskins are not going to make a trade involving Haynesworth. Whether or not that turns out to be true remains to be seen, but I do think this situation is worth keeping an eye on. I'm not sure if the Lions would be willing make a move to land Haynesworth, but it's interesting to think about the pros and cons of such a deal. By now I think you all have managed to go down the list of pros and cons and examine a possible deal from all angles in the FanPosts section, but I wanted to mention it on the front page in case anybody was wondering what's up with all of the rumors.
Daniel Bullocks, who will likely sign his tendered contract offer with the Lions sometime in the near future, is rehabbing his injured knee and is getting closer to being 100% healthy.
Luigi Gjokaj, a boxer from Detroit, visits the Lions in Allen Park each Wednesday to train with the team. Apparently boxing has been incorporated into the Lions' offseason workout program, which is the reason for the weekly visit.
Pitt quarterback Bill Stull apparently worked out for the Lions on April 2.
It was reported last week that Connecticut cornerback/special teamer Robert McClain was scheduled to visit the Lions at some point.
The old Texas Stadium was imploded on Sunday morning.
Santonio Holmes has been traded by Pittsburgh to the Jets for only a fifth-round pick.

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PFT says it’s possible (but not likely) that Leon Washington could be a part of that Holmes deal.

I haven’t checked out the other threads to see how fellow Lions fans feel about Haynseworth, but I’d jump all over this deal if it’s there. A trade for Haynseworth, sign an OL with that 2nd pick, and sign Pacman. 8-10 wins wouldn’t be a pipe-dream.

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by Packey on Apr 12, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions

But I'd be just as happy with Suh, too.

even though it doesn’t improve the team as much as a whole.

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by Packey on Apr 12, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions

That would be great since we havent won 8 or more games since like 2000

I wonder if the Lions are still going for Pacman Jones, I hope so they need to get him quick, they have nothing to lose signing him, we need major help at the CB position, Jones would fit the part! Has anyone recently heard anything about the Lions and Pacman Jones?

by IceLion3030 on Apr 12, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Haynesworth v. Suh...

You know what you get in Haynesworth. But he is in the back end of his prime. Suh, could be a monster force. Or, he could not. But is Suh turns out to be as advertised. Our tackle position could be set for a long time. With SLH and Suh anchoring the middle.

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by JCruize on Apr 12, 2010 1:43 AM EDT reply actions

Former SB MVP!!

whats the price for a Super Bowl MVP from two years ago who currently has a court case against him and a four game suspension for drugs? …..a fifth round draft pick. quite frankly i have to say i think that is a steal. haha.

just saying. the four game suspension would be during the beginning of the season and the Jets need him most the second half of the season and during the playoffs and he will prob get out of the case with nothing more then a slab on this wrist.

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by Twincities88 on Apr 12, 2010 1:50 AM EDT reply actions

Holmes is facing a 4 game suspension for failing a drug test, it is why his stock is down.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/23112178/detail.html

by Evilsmurf on Apr 12, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions

I would want Holmes on the Lions

even for 12 games

The beginning of the end of the misery

by Latif Masud on Apr 12, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions

Well

There were reports that the Redskins wanted a third-round pick before they paid him his bonus, so if Schwartz could convince him to “give back” the money, we might get him for even less.

Normally I’d think it out of the question, but we’ve been spending money and it’d be cheaper than drafting Suh.

by metatron5369 on Apr 12, 2010 8:18 AM EDT reply actions

+1

by lionsfaninohio on Apr 12, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions

You know...

I am quietly optimistic about Bullocks…

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by CapitolLions on Apr 12, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions

Pacman was a gamble worth taking.

Haynesworth is overpaid and exhibits zero character and not much drive for a guy making the money he is. A year in and he wants out after that deal? He can rot. I’m completely against bringing Haynesworth to Detroit.

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by Skylar on Apr 12, 2010 9:39 AM EDT reply actions

What the

He’s overpaid, but that’s because the Washington Redskins were/are run by incompetent people from the owner on down.

In any case, most of his money has been paid, so we can use him for three years relatively cheaply, and the only reason he doesn’t want to play there is because they’re switching to a 3-4 defense when they promised him he’d be playing in a 4-3.

I think people are just hating on this potential deal because they’re in love with Ndamukong Suh.

by metatron5369 on Apr 12, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions

Yes

I am not in love with this potential deal for the reason you state: because it would mean less of a chance we take Suh. Also for these reasons:

-I think Suh will be as good or better than Hanesworth.
-I think Hanesworth was only the best DT in the game for one year and above average for his other years. There is no guarantee he will return to 2008 form on the Lions.
-I think even if he goes back to 2008 form, he is still closer to retirement than I would want for a team that is rebuilding. If we are rebuilding and we can get a guy young who will help our line out for 5-10 years that is the person we want rather than a guy who can help our line out for 2-4 years.
-Lets not forget how Hanesworth deals with frustration (head stomping) and lets face it, there will be a lot of frustration on the 2010 Lions.

by ATL Lion on Apr 12, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions

Holmes is only a WR.....

……They arent that valuable plus hes beenin the league for a while….Wrs dont make or break teams like Lineman and Qbs

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 12, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions

this is why we....

,,,,,shouldnt go Rb til the 4th rd…..we need Dline and Oline help.

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 12, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions

+1000000000

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by Twincities88 on Apr 12, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions

+10001

I hate mocks that have us grabbing some schlub like Best in the 2nd (Sorry Drew).

by ATL Lion on Apr 12, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions

-1 x -1

by damnitdamnitdamnit on Apr 12, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Nice...

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by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 12, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Things aren't going to well in Pittsburgh...

by Hyperion Ecta on Apr 12, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions

haynesworth

i would rather have suh than haynesworth. the concerns with haynesworth was that he would get lazy after getting the $100 million, and he didn’t disappoint. he’s already come out and stated that he doesn’t want to play for us, so screw him. id rather have the potential upside with suh than the certain downside with haynesworth.

by big smoove on Apr 12, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

haynesworth vs suh

We cant ignore a couple things

1. washington would get mayhewed and we wouldnt overpay
2. lets say the trade involves switching 1sts and a late round pick, mayhew would be smart enough to make it a pick next season when its not as close to the top of the round and we would also get okung or berry..

so its suh or haeynesworth and berry/okung

thats why i like it….

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by DrewMoney$$$ on Apr 12, 2010 8:52 PM EDT reply actions